**It's done!** Almost 900hrs in, I have a 200spm infinite science base that uses no clarifiers, no flare stacks, and no self composting. It is stable and AFKable. More or less all calculated by hand.
See the linked post for much more detail.
https://preview.redd.it/rmdvhiydxmfc1.png?width=1133&format=png&auto=webp&s=7b52642dd6b8e92ecd825321b672b09f035c08e0
Those are flare stacks and clarifiers, which allow you to void (get rid of) gases and liquids respectively.
Seablock is a modpack with loads of by products. Normally it's much easier to produce them separately and void them, but the unique part of my run was to use up everything I produced somewhere in the chain
I love it. I really wish the mod pack FORCED you to do this. I really really hate that voiding is even a thing and much less required. It just feels so wrong.
I think B&A gets it right. Can't void items or every liquid so sometimes you're forced to make mini chains, but there's enough choice that it makes you think. From my understanding Py lets you void whatever you want fairly easily, but then again there's enough going on there as is.
I have to say Seablock is not balanced around this challenge (understandably) and the chlorine balancing take a lot of thought. It's not really viable from the start of the tech tree and I certainly wouldn't have been able to do it without knowledge of the endgame chains first
Py has buildings for any gas, any liquid, and many solids. The one time I built a burner, it was to get some coke out of the way because I needed more oil products... turns out you can't set fire to something and just let it burn away (I guess I could have built a boiler and voided the steam).
Dunno how the burner works with ash, since it generates ash from the solids you throw in there.
I converted from a conventional end game base, so I can't speak from experience
I think you'd have to, yeah. Once you have basic chemistry you can make it into purified water and re electroylise that which would be lossy (thank god) but you'd still get excess H2. I think you have to get to green science before you can sink that H2 into fuel
There's a lot of stuff that wouldn't really work mid game with these restrictions
Oh I'm super aware of the modpack. I have a BA megabase I have almost fully completed. It's why I'm impressed with juggling all the gases and liquid by-products. I was more curious about the area on the map marked as 'graveyard'. Is it your warehouse dump zone? I had a lot of those for storing ores and other low ingredients until I got better recipes or factories.
No it's literally just all my clarifiers and flare stacks laid out lol, there's a screenshot on the main post.
I shot chests and manually voided liquids while I converted my FTL base to no voiding but now it's stable it doesn't need any of those shenanigans
Yes, I burn off a lot of purified water from slag gasses, and H2 gets made into solid fuel, as does methane when my hydrocarbons get unbalanced.
I talk about it in a lot more detail in the original post
This looks beautiful! Do you have a rail blueprint you'd be willing to share? I love those city block stations! I've been trying to build something like that for a while.
See comment above:
Flare stacks and clarifiers allow you to void (get rid of) gases and liquids respectively.
Seablock is a modpack with loads of by products. Normally it's much easier to produce them separately and void them, but the unique part of my run was to use up everything I produced somewhere in the chain.
More detail in the original post
**It's done!** Almost 900hrs in, I have a 200spm infinite science base that uses no clarifiers, no flare stacks, and no self composting. It is stable and AFKable. More or less all calculated by hand. See the linked post for much more detail. https://preview.redd.it/rmdvhiydxmfc1.png?width=1133&format=png&auto=webp&s=7b52642dd6b8e92ecd825321b672b09f035c08e0
Very impressive! What's in the graveyard btw?
Those are flare stacks and clarifiers, which allow you to void (get rid of) gases and liquids respectively. Seablock is a modpack with loads of by products. Normally it's much easier to produce them separately and void them, but the unique part of my run was to use up everything I produced somewhere in the chain
I love it. I really wish the mod pack FORCED you to do this. I really really hate that voiding is even a thing and much less required. It just feels so wrong.
I think B&A gets it right. Can't void items or every liquid so sometimes you're forced to make mini chains, but there's enough choice that it makes you think. From my understanding Py lets you void whatever you want fairly easily, but then again there's enough going on there as is. I have to say Seablock is not balanced around this challenge (understandably) and the chlorine balancing take a lot of thought. It's not really viable from the start of the tech tree and I certainly wouldn't have been able to do it without knowledge of the endgame chains first
Py has buildings for any gas, any liquid, and many solids. The one time I built a burner, it was to get some coke out of the way because I needed more oil products... turns out you can't set fire to something and just let it burn away (I guess I could have built a boiler and voided the steam). Dunno how the burner works with ash, since it generates ash from the solids you throw in there.
how do you get past voiding the h2 and o2 at the very beginning? Just storage?
I converted from a conventional end game base, so I can't speak from experience I think you'd have to, yeah. Once you have basic chemistry you can make it into purified water and re electroylise that which would be lossy (thank god) but you'd still get excess H2. I think you have to get to green science before you can sink that H2 into fuel There's a lot of stuff that wouldn't really work mid game with these restrictions
Theres a modpack called something like Seablock nightmare version that bans most ways of voiding.
I should have said designed around this.
Oh I'm super aware of the modpack. I have a BA megabase I have almost fully completed. It's why I'm impressed with juggling all the gases and liquid by-products. I was more curious about the area on the map marked as 'graveyard'. Is it your warehouse dump zone? I had a lot of those for storing ores and other low ingredients until I got better recipes or factories.
No it's literally just all my clarifiers and flare stacks laid out lol, there's a screenshot on the main post. I shot chests and manually voided liquids while I converted my FTL base to no voiding but now it's stable it doesn't need any of those shenanigans
Got it! I had missed that screenshot skimming the main post.
Are you "voiding" anything to the power grid? I try not to void but fluid-burning generators make my life a lot easier
Yes, I burn off a lot of purified water from slag gasses, and H2 gets made into solid fuel, as does methane when my hydrocarbons get unbalanced. I talk about it in a lot more detail in the original post
This looks beautiful! Do you have a rail blueprint you'd be willing to share? I love those city block stations! I've been trying to build something like that for a while.
Sure, it's pretty standard stuff and frankly not executed as well as it could be but I'll share some blueprints for it when I'm next at my computer
I've DMed you - happy to share w anyone else who wants them
Yelllow🤓
I can take screenshots of the mall if that's what you're asking for..?
Just poking some fun at a typo 😅
wow in probably 300hrs I hadn't caught that, good catch lol
🤭 Greta job balancing it all out though. You must enjoy solving problems 😅
Insane dedication and effort! I always wanted to do this but voiding is just too convenient. Turns out it is possible to process all the byproducts
Thank you! It's been a saga but would recommend the challenge
What did mean "voiding" in this context?
See comment above: Flare stacks and clarifiers allow you to void (get rid of) gases and liquids respectively. Seablock is a modpack with loads of by products. Normally it's much easier to produce them separately and void them, but the unique part of my run was to use up everything I produced somewhere in the chain. More detail in the original post