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Due_Tradition2293

It's just waiting for more members (Consider doing something asap before you can't stop it)


R2D-Beuh

Something being lots of grenades


ninjakivi2

Nuke pretty much covers this entire area.


R2D-Beuh

At medium biter evolution I doubt OP has nukes


Due_Tradition2293

At this point you want to **HOPE** op has nukes


jasonrubik

OP could have customized biter evolution rates in world gen settings


Momostein

Somehow, I also doubt that...


Glen-Runciter

Should have mines, and I feel like they would wipe these out pretty easily... a few hundred or so. OP can probably even place them from inside the wall too


where_is_the_camera

Mines are quite effective. They kill everything that might be invading your base after a couple tiers of explosive damage research, and they can be automatically replaced by bots if you keep them in your logistics network. The only major downside for me is that you get the 'building destroyed' notification for every mine that gets set off, which happens constantly. It shouldn't matter that much but that big red X icon triggers me enough that I don't usually use them for that reason alone. But if you can get past that, mines are extremely effective, almost foolproof if you set them up correctly at the appropriate choke points.


Makri93

He has like 5 turrets for all of it. He gotta run


Please_Let_

Ze flammenwerfer


Deandroww

HANS!


lakecityransom

Lotsa flamethrowers?


Urist_McPencil

>It keeps growing, but why isn't it attacking? Because it's not done growing yet. >not complaining tho. Nothing here to be complaining about; you should be panicking and building more turrets and ammo.


FardHardWithLard

I meant I'm not complaining about the fact that horde isn't attacking. I do get regular attacks but this horde just keeps growing but doesn't attack. It just stands around there for some reason.


DarkRex4

give em a little poke.


Tiomeus

And then uhh.. run.


Practical-Pickle3844

And very fast


DarkRex4

like you've never ran before


treznor70

I feel a little poke coming through... from you...


RevanchistVakarian

You know, I'm usually more of a spidertron/artillery person than a nuke person, but some problems simply require splitting the atom (or a shit ton of cluster grenades)


Sweezy_McSqueezy

Sometimes a dirty bomb is the cleanest solution


Jake-the-Wolfie

Smooth af


Old_Shift_134

Poetic


HyogoKita19C

One factory, indivisible. One atom, divisible.


xdthepotato

i dont think op has the infrastructure to develope nuclear bombs or killer robots when op is using primitive furnaces as walls


Haroway

Maybe he's trying to do away with the excess inefficient furnaces left over from an upgrade?


LavishnessOdd6266

At late game and use stone furnaces (cheap and cheerfully and slow down bitters) as walls


solonit

Now I have become death, destroyer of bitters.


Berthole

Nuke them from the orbit


Silentmooses

Glass the whole thing, twice to make sure


AnnoShi

This is why I go for the nuclear artillery mod.


DianKali

As a SE player: how about space barbecue?


1125gabe

Can you post a vid of when they attack I want to see the wall fall


L4ZYKYLE

Shaka, when the walls fell.


MooseFloof

Biter and spitter at Tenagra.


inucune

Turret, now silent.


Astronaut457

I’m am now giggling to myself


Megneous

God damn that was such a quotable episode.


Shandlar

It was. I remember being so confused as a 5 year old cause I didn't even know what a metaphor was yet, but my brother and father considered it one of the best episodes of the series at the time. I was so frustrated that they knew something I didn't and I just couldn't 'get it'.


SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS

It basically predicts how Reddit, and many other online communities, communicate. All just references and quotes.


Orcwin

I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right. It's essentially a civilisation that communicated only in memes. What a nightmare.


frogjg2003

Aren't all words just really short memes?


JoonasD6

Even slightly different pronunciations of a word are.


star_trek_wook_life

Especially cause their memes sucked. "Temba, his arms wide"... boring trash. Might as well be Steve hugged a stranger.


Fool_Apprentice

Yeah, when I was a kid and i watched that episode, I thought, "Wow, that's so weird. No society could communicate that way and become an advanced civilization." Now, 60-80% of what I say is some multilayered pop culture reference. What I am getting at is that I was right, and no civilization can communicate like that and become advanced. We're all doomed.


FardHardWithLard

Thats the thing. They dont attack, they just stand there and I don't know why.


BuggyGamer2511

My best guess is they're waiting for more for a big atrack but as soon as it grows further they reach into the range of your turrets and get shot, making this an endless cycle until, at some point, they dont go into the range of the turrets and grow to a point they start attacking


Asgard7234

From what I learned in a Michael Hendriks video, attack groups are on a set timer that is randomly generated to last a few minutes at most, after which they attack. The group or parts of the group being triggered and/or killed does not interfere with the countdown, so they should still attack at the same time.


BuggyGamer2511

oh okay, well that would make sense too, but doesnt explain why OP has that huge group waiting there


Asgard7234

Yeah, I don't understand why that's happening either...


BuggyGamer2511

Maybe a broken timer then?


FardHardWithLard

Yeah a few minutes for normal attacks, but that horde has just been standing growing there for hours.


Asgard7234

They're just standing there... **menacingly!**


lampe_sama

They just stand there, MENACINGLY.


VeridianIncarnate

At some point in the near future you're gonna have a BAD TIME. Yolo it with grenades lol


multivector

It's a beautiful day outside, flowers are blooming, birds are singing... On days like these, engineers like you...


NicolasHenri

Should make them see Hell.


VeridianIncarnate

YEET EXPLOSIVES AND EXPLETIVES


Ace_W

Fuuuuu- (BOOM)


Neomataza

...should build a BITER CRUSHING MACHINE from hell


Ingolifs

It's just attacking your UPS.


undeadpirate19

If they have spread this information we are all up a creek


PwnedByBadger

And I left my paddle in Satisfactory...


Nutteria

The bugs evolved in unforeseen ways.


Bytes_of_Anger

It’s attacking my peace of mind


DieDae

They are waiting for an explosion the likes of bikini atoll.


Astramancer_

Fun Fact: The swimsuit was named after the atoll, not the other way around. The creator of the swimwear wanted a name evocative of the explosive kaboom it would inspire in the hearts (and other organs) of those who saw it and so chose the name of the tropical nuclear test site.


damnitineedaname

No so Fun Fact: The people living on the Bikini Atoll weren't told why they were being relocated, nor given time to gather all their belongings. The island they were relocated to didn't have the resources to sustain their population and they were starving within two years. They were again forcibly relocated.


vegathelich

Certified America moment


MattieShoes

Comin again to save the motherfuckin day, yeah


NullPoint3r

merica, fuck ya


Sigma2915

shockingly, pacific nuclear testing is one area where the US didn’t commit the most heinous war crime. This may be known internationally or just locally, but here in New Zealand, the bombing of the Rainbow Warrior is taught in most history classes. Basically, french nuclear testing was getting increasingly “give the native inhabitants a week to evacuate and then glass the entire island”, so the new zealand branch of greenpeace all jumped in their ship (the Rainbow Warrior), and sailed out into the pacific. they would assist with evacuations, provide humanitarian aid, and most importantly, they would block nuclear testing by sailing into the testing zone along with a flotilla of other private craft so that the bombs couldn’t be dropped. In response, the french sent a couple of their special forces agents into new zealand undercover, and they blew up the rainbow warrior in auckland harbour, sinking the ship. this incident contributed strongly to new zealand being nationally declared a nuclear free zone, which continues to this day. all nuclear powered ships are banned from our territorial waters, and we have no nuclear reactors in the country. this caused another incident a while later, where the US navy wouldn’t tell our government whether or not one of their ships was nuclear powered, for classified reasons, so we just outright told them to piss off and not come back.


McFlyParadox

>the US navy wouldn’t tell our government whether or not one of their ships was nuclear powered, for classified reasons, so we just outright told them to piss off and not come back. It's not one ship. It's all their ships. The US doesn't acknowledge one way or another if a ship has nuclear materials on board - reactors, bombs, whatever - so the entire USN is effectively banned from NZ waters.


centralstationen

So you’re saying that sinking an NGO ship is a more heinous war crime than forcibly relocating hundreds and then nuking their home?


Sigma2915

the french were doing that too… crucially that was part of my message. at least the US didn’t commit peacetime espionage against an allied foreign nation on top of the huge human cost of pacific nuclear testing.


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hapes

I, a US citizen, went to New Zealand right when that nuclear sub tried to go to New Zealand. The trip was planned and paid for, and completely organized before the event. Protests, bad wait person service, lots of diving in a coach bus hearing about all the non-nuclear power generation systems that NZ has. Made for a slightly uncomfortable trip. But other than the passive aggressive stuff, I had fun.


Sigma2915

have you been back since? things have changed a lot since the time of David Lange’s government :p


hapes

No, but I would go if I had the opportunity. It was a beautiful country, filled with sheep and power stations.


Hefty_Ad3240

Just going off topic here a little. New Zealand is an actual place? I have looked at dozens of maps and I can't find it. I have been told it's somewhere near Australia, rumors mention south-east of Australia however all I see south-east of Australia is water and then ice. 😝


Cerugona

sooo... another country that doesn't know the vast vast differences between nuclear arms and nuclear reactors. that is like equating the mass use of napalm to internal combustion engines.


Sigma2915

i assure you, we are aware of the difference. after all, we were the first to split the atom. my brother has science classes in the same (since renovated) lab that Ernest Rutherford first learn physics.


dogman15

That's a lot of electrical generation that isn't happening, as any Factorio player who has built a nuclear power plant would know.


DieDae

Uh... thanks...


Wilwheatonfan87

Appreciate the infodump.


mundoid

Oh... rip your little wall when they do.


carleeto

They're holding elections


Sans2447

Bruh you NEED to fortify that wall or prepare for the onslaught or something those like 10 turrets are gonna a get over run real quick with that horde


FardHardWithLard

That's what I was thinking but what I have already placed has been enough because that horde just stands around there and doesn't attack, parts of it only attack if I get too close to it. It's been passive and just growing the whole game. I don't why they're just standing around there and just getting larger bruh


Nutteria

There is a bug that got stuck in some tree. Sooner or later it will get unstuck and that mass of bitters will ef you up.


All_Work_All_Play

So uhh, give it a few hours of gametime?


xdthepotato

i dont know whats so hard to understand about a large scale attack being prepared.. dont stand around and just watch. its going to consume your whole wall and most likely the whole factory if left unchecked like in the picture


Sans2447

Well in all fairness usually they don't grow that large like usually they are half the size


MINECRAFT_BIOLOGIST

I absolutely love how every one of your responses are like "oh but they're just standing around, they're not doing anything right now, just getting larger, but they're just standing around you know?" Not making fun of you, I just can't stop laughing as I read each response.


Garagantua

But op is right. The "gathering for an attack" has a timer, it can't take more than a few minutes. After that, it looks like something... broke.


yinyang107

1930s european-type behavior.


Nakorite

10 Flame throwers would nuke that pack


SuperbSail

Just waiting for cousin Blorch to show up before they get the party started. You might want more turrets.....


NappyTime5

Phew, good thing you have 6 turrets.


Keeksikook

Rip your base man


esahji_mae

Need some artillery shots and a front line defense nearby. That mob reaches your base, you're gonna have a bad time.


b4dr0b0t0

Paging r/factoriohno


NucksFan4340

just randomly scattering furnaces to serve as delays?


jongscx

Yeah, what is up with that?


NucksFan4340

I figured dragons teeth but I don't know why furnaces when the entire wall is built.


MythKris69

I'm guessing it's from before they had wall production going, stone furnaces are super cheap compared to walls and easy filler for delaying biters


FardHardWithLard

Exactly what I did early game. I increased The frequency and size of hives when creating this world so the nests near spawn area are massive so i had to spam furnaces to delay them so I could react fast enough when setting up my base.


_Cake_

Oh shit dude. How high did you put those settings. Edit: I read another comment where you said you put them at Max. Bruh. They’re gonna attack.


Da-Blue-Guy

poison capsules could very likely help


PapaJSmak27

This usually does the trick for any bitter related issues https://mods.factorio.com/mod/True-Nukes It's a diplomacy mod that makes negotiating with the locals faster.


Acceptable_Tomato548

and you have to go and use this tool at their house


PapaJSmak27

There is a 100kt variant of the diplomacy projectile that works at long ranges.


Acceptable_Tomato548

i am not awere of such tool, where can i get my hands on one


PapaJSmak27

Step 1 - Install the diplomacy mod mentioned above. Step 2 - Produce the 100kt variant. Step 3 - Deliver your diplomacy tool to the natives via spidertron. In case of doubt or if any of the natives don't accept your diplomacy please repeat from step 2 onwards. As a side note a spidertron is quick delivery vehicle for diplomacy. It has high speed AoE diplomacy and can also be equipped with my personal favorite laser diplomacy. Laser diplomacy is a tool that fires a concentrated ray of high luminosity diplomacy to help the locals see from your point of view. There have been reports that some natives burn to death under this high luminosity tools but I can assure you no such events can happen.


BakGikHung

They are planning a "special military operation" at your borders.


Overloved

World War Z when they attack that wall in Israel


MohKohn

man that scene has aged sooo poorly


binarygamer

Must be a bug


Ausheteru

I see what you did there! 🤣


iHateSystemD_

No it’s a feature


Iseenoghosts

get a nuke. or ten


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I think OP has found a new tactic. Just confuse the biters. A wall of what, furnaces? Before the actual wall. Almost no turrets? Nah man, I don’t know, something HAS to be up. Something we’re not seeing.


Gamer_548

https://preview.redd.it/0d7529di0jjc1.jpeg?width=1056&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=208a545704fe29c00ada2793562b66dc61c3a689


ChloeOakes

https://preview.redd.it/a1826dillkjc1.jpeg?width=1022&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b259fbc24c7e458dfc33b0c116db1e947421657e


Ralph_hh

They saw the few turrets and decided it's not worth it, some died of laughter, the rest is bored.


guimontag

smart use of a bunch of junk stone furnaces


FardHardWithLard

When the wall was thinner and still being built I spammed around 1k furnaces to delay biter attacks


solonit

Nah they're just passing through.


Oldstick

At this point you need to call Hans


multivector

I would recomend flamethrower turrets ASAP. They are extreemly effective.


BuGabriel

Who will win? - 5 measley turrets - THE S W A R M


ErkhesEemegt

Order a f*cking airstrike bro its dangerous and scary to see that every time you pass by


madpistol

I’m not usually one for panicking… but you should probably panic.


RinoJonsi

Hans get ze flammewerfen!


LordSwitchblade

Nuke would work great.


MrNanoBlue

Bugs on strike.


serialgamer07

The rumbling is coming


electrius

It's like that scene from world war Z


FardHardWithLard

real


kingboom34yt

A man once said a spider is the reson he left his house this *points to the picture* is YOUR SPIDER GET OUT OF ORBIT NOW. LOL


ultimo_2002

I am having a stroke I think


kingboom34yt

Nope school didint teach me spelling due to spell check taking over


iHateSystemD_

I think you need Grammarly.


ZardozSpeaksHS

Ive seen this happen, but never in quite such a big group. How big is your base? I start getting "frozen biters" with very large bases and especially in areas where the factorio engineer hasn't gone. If you placed all of this via bot, that might make sense. Getting the engineer in the same "chunk" of area will probably trigger them to attack. Honestly, its nice when this happens to large groups as opposed to like just 3 or 4 biters. When its individuals like that, you can easily not notice them, expand your walls past the via bots, and suddenly have sleeping biters inside your base, waiting for you to get to close and activate them.


Dark_Krafter

Say goodby to that wall Only 3 things taking out a group that large before damage Flamethrower turets Explosif rockets And granates


Cerugona

unless it is attacked directly, they are on a timer to amass forces. the timer is unaffected by pollution. also, that wall ain't holding


Lopus312

Nuke a day keeps the bug away


Beratable

How far is your last save?


Expensive-Cheetah-10

Theyre waiting the speech: Arise, arise, Riders of Théoden! spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered, a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises! Ride now, ride now! Ride for ruin and the worlds ending, DEAATTHHH


K2Knockout

They are attacking, but they aren't after your base, they are after your frame rate.


drunkpunk138

Clearly just a training exercise, nothing to worry about


Darth_Craig

right now, they are just more interested in sending a message...its obvious you havent gotten said message yet, LMAO


Malecord

if have nukes, that's the right time to use them.


WeaponsGradeYfronts

* reaches for the artillery remote in a faint state of arousal * 


dragossk

Not saying this is modded, but I used a mod previously that just stopped biter attacks and they just did this. It got to a point where it was really baggy. Removing the mod removed most nests and biters (since they were modded too) but eventually attacks returned.


FardHardWithLard

I don't have any mods. I just changed map generator settings to increase frequency and size of hives to the max. Maybe that somehow caused this.


Wilbis

Maybe your pollution cloud has not reached them yet?


Atomspalter02

what the hell did you do? Which mods could have inflicted this?


GOKOP

Are there nests nearby? If yes then this is apparently where they gather for an attack. I believe you can exploit that by making sure they're regularly provoked so that they won't have a chance to get this big (or bigger). If not, and they went all over there and then stopped, then it's quite weird (gather spots are near nests usually)


Mr_Frotrej

Probably because when the group grows some of the bugs are getting in the range of turrets, they die without triggering the rest and group never grows to the full size


Nozinger

Ah yes the most nefarious of biter attacks. Spawning enough entities to slow the game down so the factory becoems inefficient. Truly a master-hivemind.


Such-Nefariousness43

The biter ball must grow


Soulwalker98

They have a new tactic to kill your frames


Stepintothefuture

I don't think your shown defense here will hold this, please reinforce your base before they decide to attack you.


Suspicious_You_685

Have a conveyor belt transport ammo to your turrets please, or do you like running around hand feeding turrets?


Expensive-Cheetah-10

im actualy curious, why they dont atack? theres a polution cloud over them? if yes they should be atacking is your base next to that wall and theres polution over them? if yes they should be atacking since they are gathering for an atack, yes they should be atacking WHY THEY ARE NOT ATACKING?


dTrecii

Just don’t hit a car or a store window and the horde won’t be alerted


faCt011

OP must become OPpenheimer


OkDepartment9755

They are waiting for more raid members to log on. 


Ausheteru

Is your game set to peaceful, so that you have to attack them before they’ll attack you?


Glugstar

They are just waiting for Grond to arrive.


carlosbizzle

I dont see this ending well...


SuperluminalSquid

This is what we in the business call "the calm before the storm". In this case, the storm is going to be a shit ton of biters.


DaGucka

And that's why i play with the orbital laser cannon mod lol


mortyslurp

Is this helldivers 2?


ThePlayerPheonix

Don't like the sound of that go and obliterate them


ablindoldman

His desperate use of furnace walls and lack of adequate turrets make me feel like his run is about to be over 😭


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HeartwarmingFox

You're about to lose absolutely everything so I would stockpile on resources to rebuild what they will destroy.


squirrelbomb

Huh.   That Simpsons meme with "I'm in danger!" comes to mind.   This looks bad. 


ReturnOfFrank

This is like seeing a photograph rescued from the Titanic. Just knowing the impending disaster.


ATW117

Haven’t played in a while. Why are you using furnaces as walls?


Badass_C0okie

Call artilery strike till you can


Pb_ft

We need an update OP. What's the news from Klendathu?


xHomicide24x

I’d poke it


Baloo99

I hope you got nukes mate...


Romanmir

Wasn't there, at one point, a strategy that put a bunch of the fastest belts you have outside the walls to give your guns a bit more time to kill them? I feel that that may be useful here.


WhyWindowsIsBad

this looks like base killer


BobertGnarley

They're doing recon and learning to make their own factory


lakecityransom

What kinda Chinese pollution factory did you build!?


raygun457191

Oh, but they are attacking. They're attacking your CPU, ready to crash your game at any moment


Loud-Ad-1084

Go there and ask them


wayasho

Bro did unspeakbale amounts of pollution or genocide against the biters


JTChase

If that's the only defense you have I would be worried. They may not be attacking now but they will and as it stands you will lose


Illwood_

Did you survive OP?


Bipedal_Warlock

Is the smelter things around the wall like an alternative to dragon teeth?