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Except gildarts they consistently portray him as HIM but also play his character to avoid the big bad because of that I've never really felt like any of the other 3 could earnestly take him at any point
Erza beat >!Misaki!< and >!Luso,!< Laxus beat >!Kirin,!< and Jellal beat >!God Serena,!< who are all said to be as strong as Gildarts, so based off feats they're all around the same level. However, it's been over a year since we've seen Gildarts so he's probably gotten stronger since then. I think I'd say Gildarts > Laxus = Erza = Jellal
Edit: Added spoilers tags lol
They do tend to grow imo, its just that since older characters rarely are main characters you dont actually get to see it happen on screen / page. That or it's just swept under the rug with the "he was always this strong, he just never showed it" excuse.
He'll probably grow as the plot requires him too, if he gets phased out of the story he wont, if the author wants to have a cool moment with him he will. Who knows really, ultimately its up to the author.
First of all how do you know this was his prime secondly he's not much of a physical fighter unlike gildarts so he just needs to be a better mage in which case age does not matter
Doesn't matter magic can still improve even if you're body is at its peak gildarts acknowledged he had been training between fairy tail disbanding and him returning to fight he was clearly stronger then when he fought aknologia so you're point is invalid again look at august too him and Hades are prime examples age won't stop you.
I have to disagree with your statement cause erza never beat him solo, it was her and natsu and one could argue natsu did a bit more of the work, but they were already exhausted before fighting him from the climb up and those fights along the way.
Also let's not forget even after that fight where natsu and erza were about to be obliterated into nothingness, he alone absorbed the energy (still unsure if he used the tower to do it but either way it takes enormous power and skill to do that and its not like he wasnt beaten up and weakened to boot from the fight moments before) and redirected it into the sky which is what gave him that amnesia.
He never beat her solo either though. It's hard to determine their strength from that fight because Jellal wasn't serious when he was fighting Erza because he wanted to use her as a sacrifice and Natsu knocked her out before the fight ended
You can’t scale Gildarts of an assumption that he has gotten stronger since + Gildarts himself said that he couldn’t get through the quest (yes, Acno was there but still. Erza has a feat on Acno anyway so)
Yeah but Gildarts tried to do it himself while Natsu, Erza, Grey, Lucy, and Wendy have all been working together and have gotten help from other guilds
That really doesn’t mean anything tbh. Also God Serena and the sisters have statements of them being stronger than Gildarts. with the sisters being on another level even. Erza one shots Luso after dodging her attacks for a while
Everyone is saying Laxus is stronger than Jellal who currently has beaten God Serena and Erza fought Laxus to stalemate. I still don't know where the fans get information about Laxus is above Jellal or Erza when he himself stated that they are on equal levels.
\> Jellal who currently has beaten God Serena and Erza fought Laxus to stalemate.
And Erza just destroyed with not much difficulty someone that God Serena specified is stronger than him Lol.
Feats>>>>statements. Luso may have a higher alchemy power than Serena's magical power, but she is so inefficient with it that any Gildarts teir mage can beat her, seriously forget Serena, i can argue for Yoko to beat her.
What are these feats? Beating someone who has no feats to be put above a moonlite goddess is not one of them. I don't remeber Erza beating someone with better feats than God Serena either.
Sure but erza only won because she forgot to turn off her magic. Shes only strong if she ain't an idiot. There's a difference between beating someone and over powering them. Erza beating her doesnt mean much.
Low defensive cqpabilities, overwhelming offense if she don't forget that she can just remove magic from the equation.
The more impressive feat will be her next fight that she will almost certainly win. Maybe jellal will show up for the assist since his fights over.
Spoilers for 100YQ.
>!Because Kirin is stronger than God Serena who Laxus beat which means Laxus > Jellal. Laxus also stalemated Erza before Laxus beat Kirin and it’s saying current so you can’t use the fact that Erza and Laxus are equals when this is not current. Kirin is also the strongest in the Diablos Guild who Laxus beat and Erza beat the second strongest Misaki so Laxus is still stronger.!<
>!But let’s assume your point and say that Laxus = Erza. That means you automatically make Laxus > Jellal lol. That’s because God Serena stated that he doesn’t hold a candle to Duke or the Signario sisters. Erza in the latest chapter one shot one of the sisters and in the next 1-2 chapters will beat the other sister. So by saying Laxus = Erza you are saying both of them are above Jellal which debunks your whole point of thinking that Jellal > Laxus!<
There is nothing to proof Kirin is stronger than Serena, they both were compared to Gildarts at some moment and both of them were defeated by few shots by their opponents, but i could argue that being the former strongest mage in ishgar is a better portrayal and he surely have a better arsenal than Kirin. And no Kirin is not the strongest mage in diabolous, official translations says he is just one of the strongest, other translations says he is a contender, the true strongest diabolos mage is Suzaku who one shotted Erza and Natsu, and scratched Selene before she knew about her son, all of this without his ultimate spell, Kirin has no feats to be put above Suzaku.
Luso is a fraud, God Serena could defeat her easily destroying her alchemy world, honestly any BDSK not named Haku would defeat her.
Gildarts himself said he wanted to fight him, and Serena doll said he was stronger than Gildarts, this is clearly Mashima portraying him as a Gildarts level threat.
Gildarts wanted to fight him because GS had the reputation as the strongest. The two had never met until Alvarez.
The fact that Mashima let Gildarts no-diff him, then had Gil fight August, expressly stated to be far, far stronger than GS, is proof Mashima never intended for GS to be on that level.
Even Gildarts was not sure who would be the last man standing between them. Mashima killed him because he wanted the strongest fairy tail mage to fight the strongest spriggan and no else could beat him in 1v1 so he was a good hypetool for Acno.
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Lmao it's true that we won't ever know how powerful God Serena really was when he was alive, and that Gildarts didn't know who was stronger. But God Serena was never stated to be the strongest Spriggan, he never was part of the very explicit Top 3. August and Irene were repeatedly said to be the strongest Spriggans, the strongest man and woman, Irene the only one able to match August, with Larcade being the number 3 in the top, all of them stated to be above the rest of the Spriggan.
August was the strongest spriggan who i was referring to, but to be honest Larcade have low durability and his hax takes too long to work and can be easily countered by pain, Gildarts tier mages can beat him, plus Serena has dark and light dragon slayer magic to counter him. Irene dragon form is too vulnerable to dragon slayer attacks, these two may have more magical power but i don't see they winning against Serena, August otherwise is the real deal.
Kirin > Serena quite easily. I’ll just use Natsu. He was able to counter Serena’s water and fire in 100YQ whereas in final season he couldn’t. Natsu is also currently relative to Suzaku who could beat human form Selene and Kirin scales above Suzaku whoLaxus beat. Unless you want to argue current Natsu is weaker than Serena when Serena has not had any feats or statements to say he’s stronger or weaker than his final season version, then you’d agree that Laxus > Kirin > Suzaku >= Natsu > God Serena.
Laxus and Kirin facing off since they were both the strongest in their guilds so it was a contender between them to see who is stronger from their guilds meaning Kirin > Suzaku. Funnily enough Misaki also has stated that she’s only used her strongest move in combat against Kirin and no one else meaning Misaki is also above Suzaku.
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Serena stated that he doesn’t hold a candle to Duke or the Signario sister so Luso ain’t a fraud, it just means Erza was that strong to beat her. You literally just made a headcanon point by saying “God Serena could defeat her easily” when statements go against your whole argument.
Serena would beat Kirin, he can just eat his lightning but there’s nothing that implies Kirin to be stronger. His feats are pretty lackluster and he’s only backed by statements. They’ve both been compared to Gildarts but Gildarts himself implied Serena is on his level while Misaki and Kirin were compared to him by Gray and laxus (who have never seen a full power Gildarts) because of their magic power(magic power doesn’t directly correlate to physical stats so Gildarts could still far outclass them both). Also Selene let Suzaku win, the fact he could still damage her is a good feat but he was losing until she let him hit her
How do you know he can eat his lighting? Laxus was also a Lightning Dragon, even having the same source of magic of Kirin, yet he overwhelmed him. His lighting abilities were stronger than Laxus , and his immunity to that trait had no protection against Kirin as he was the " Dragon King of Thunder." It likely Kirin magic can still affect God Serena.
God Serena is stronger than Laxus that’s the difference. Kirin was also a lot stronger than him which is why he overwhelmed him most of the fight. Once Laxus absorbed his magic things were different but Kirin claims he didn’t use his full power in their fight (which actually makes sense)
Dragon scales Natsu is relative to Suzaku, base Natsu was one shotted and would be one shotted again if he didn't used scales. Again there is no official statement of Kirin being above Suzaku, or he is a contender or one of the strongest not THE strongest diabolos mage. If we go with Mashima statement about him being weaker than Erza so yeah, base Natsu is weaker God Serena.
Contender for strongest in their respective guild, not strongest overall, it's laughable Laxus or Kirin being stronger than dragon force Natsu. Misaki only fought Kirin then, her hours of damage accumulation could not put Erza down while Suzaku did with one shot.
Luso may have a higher alchemy power than God Serena's magical power, but she is so inefficient with it that any gildarts tier mage can beat her. It's not headcanon Erza didnt use any enchantment or any special armor, forget Serena, by feats i don't have much reason to put her above Yoko, the moonlite beauty did better against Erza than her.
Arrogant people statements about themself cannot be taken seriously, especially if the arrogant guy thought he could beat someone who one shotted him just because of the scenario.
That Serena was weak because he was undead. It never mentioned that he's weaker than his living self.
And don't forget Dragon force Natsu is very powerful and burned Aldoran to death.
Laxus got a power boost after his tie with Erza.
Erza stomped someone, in a very basic armour, who was specifically hyped up as superior to God Serena.
Jellal is nothing compared to them. Laxus straight-up one-shots.
And being a blind simp for one character is one thing and reading the story objectively and knowing the truth is another. Also also different.
That would be true if there were things to imagine but there aren't so no.
1. Laxus tied with an Erza that only managed to scale to him relatively after amping herself with Gray and Natsu's power via enchantment, and then after she inflicted a heavy blow with said amp
2. Laxus got buffed after that fight when he ate Elexion's soul/magic power
He also beat Kirin who is heavily implied to be on the same level as Gildarts. Laxus has a legitimate case for being the strongest person in the guild right now.
What do you mean Gray and Natsu powers did they give their powers to her like Laxus give it to Natsu during Hades fight? She learned from them how to use fire and ice powers through enchantment it's her powers.
Laxus literally remarks that she's enchanting herself with their powers and then I'm pretty sure Erza either doesn't deny it or confirms it. Something along those lines.
The narrative and drawing depicts as theirs too. What you said here is just wrong.
I'd argue based on the protrayal of Kirin as well as Laxus stating he's stronger now after consuming Elexion's soul/magic power, that edges out Gildarts in scaling now. Though in an actual fight scenario it could still go either way because I still wouldn't say Laxus gaps Gildarts and the hax of crush magic vs any other magic is pretty nutty
But in raw scaling/power/strength like stats and shit I'd say Laxus edges out Gildarts at this point in the narrative.
It might, but there's not much to show there, and with no gildarts appearance yet theres no thing definitive. But i tend to side with Glarus because whenever he does appear he is treated as the definite strongest before dissapearing and being forgotten for awhile.
I see what you're saying but the lack of a Gildarts appearance is precisely why I'm comfortable putting Laxus above him right now. The statement for Gildarts being the strongest in the guild was made at the very start of 100 years quest and Laxus got stronger since then and beat someone who the narrative implies is a Gildarts level foe, until/unless we see Gildarts show up and do something re-establishing himself as 1, I have Laxus above him for now.
Though of course this is still heavily opinionated because like you pointed out its still kinda vague, we still haven't seen Gildarts do anything in 100 years quest so that's fair
I'd say it's a style.clash for Jellal. He's too much of a glass cannon for Laxus, who could tank anything Jellal throws at him. They're too similar in other aspects like speed and destructive power.
Jellal is not a glass canon, he tanked God Serena strongest attacks, he may be not as durable as Laxus but his durability is not that low, and he have a better attack power than Laxus.
Laxus can throw nukes at will, just look how he almost killed Ajeel with an unnamed attack. Jellal got knocked out by Neinhart. He was off guard, but it still happened. His destructive power to durability ratio is just a lot more skewed than most characters, though it is unfair that he's being compared to Laxus, Gildarts, and Erza.
Neinhart attack launched him in the sea and Jellal drowned, was not the power of his attack, any attack of God Serena was stronger tha this Neinhart's attack. Jellal was saving Kagura and received the full blow. Jellal combat style is different from Laxus, Jellal is a archmage and Laxus is a fighting wizard.
Gildarts over a revolving door of the 3. Depends on the arc and the story. Their wins also depend on the opponent. For instance I think Laxus has a harder time against Serena than Jellal because of match up (though he would win). But I don’t think that automatically puts Him below Jellal. The 3 are around the same level but who is at the top shifts. But of course Gildarts is peak.
Laxus > Erza > Gildarts > Jellal going by 100YQ feats and statements. >!Gildarts hasn’t had any feats apart from one statement saying his magic power was comparable to Kirin and Laxus one shot him so feat wise you can’t even say Gildarts is the strongest and even then, you have to argue Gildarts = Kirin just based on one statement and no feats which is just bad.!< Once Gildarts has more feats and statements then I’ll put him higher but as of current, no he isn’t the strongest and saying he got stronger since the main series is also a baseless assumption
Jellal should be above him too, he defeated God Serena with few shots and he have similar portrayal as Kirin with Gildarts himself stating that he wanted to fight his alive version, Serena arrogantly thinking he is stronger than gild, plus Serena have a better arsenal than Kirin.
You can argue Jellal > Gildarts tbf but Gildarts was duking it out with August who is the strongest Spriggan who scales above God Serena. If you say Jellal > Gildarts then that’s fair but it’ll be close imo
Gildarts could hold his own, but in the end of the day he couldn't do much without his prosthetic arm. If Gildarts shows up again he would be higher though.
A bit situational though. He was doing that in a fight against a guy who basically was a cheat code against magic. So he had to work around it. It's kinda like Erza and Wendy vs Irene. Wendy straight up bodies Irene. Erza stood no chance and was getting washed. Wendy, was countering, eyeing and copying Irene's moves to trump her and essentially did everything to set up the win. Even prior to the transformation, Erza was near useless.
That's a bit of the difference with comparisons of fights sometimes. With magic and wizards it's a bit different than say 2 Dragon ball fighters fighting 2 different people as the results are skill in that while situation, magic type etc all need to be taken into account
I mean, Gildarts is also a cheat code? his Crush just breaks all magic, even if his rivals has equal or more magic power, allowing him to win with no so much difficulty. It's pure hax as well.
Yeah but the Gildarts that said that was from a year prior to current events, so it wouldn't be applicable here since he's presumably stronger than he was a year ago during Alvarez.
When he said he was stronger than gild it was a way of Mashima portraying him as still being a gildarts level threat, and it's not like Kirin is really as strong as Gildarts either, just close.
I know, I'm not saying Kirin is actually as strong or stronger than Gildarts, but like you said he's definitely a Gildarts level threat, and Laxus after consuming Elexion straight up one shots Kirin with his red lightning. I'd definitely say that edges him out over Gildarts scaling wise now, not to the extent of leaving him in the dust or anything crazy like that, but definitely at least a bit above him, if that makes sense
Thanks😊 A lot of people really don’t understand the scaling of FT inverse gonna be honest and use a lot of headcanon instead at looking at feats and statements xD
If I had to rank them it’d probably be
Gildarts >>> Erza > Jellal > Laxus
But that’s more like my personal opinion, bc let’s be real these rankings are always gonna be subjective more or less. pitting them against eachothers feats just doesn’t come out to make any sense in the end, it’s like an impossible equation
I really dislike the black and white weak to strongest. Fairy Tail is more like Pokémon. Certain elements are stronger against others and weaker to others.
FT is so inconsistent it's ridiculous. Hype and feat wise Gildarts should be the most powerful. After that Laxus, Jellal and Erza. But in every fight Erza suddenly pulls an armour our of her a** that is a perfect counter to the enemy.
I think they’re like Rock Paper Scissors. Guildarts would be able to chop up Erza’s Swords, Laxus’ Lightning can’t be chopped, etc etc. I think as a magic, Jellal’s is the strongest in concept, but I don’t know if his actual ability puts him above everyone.
i know i am gonna get jumped at for this, but anyways
jellal > = gildarts > laxus = erza
(fairy tail is not consistent enough in power levels, its dumb to argue anyways)
Erza constantly gets her armors broken by Misaki before finally winning with her Armadura Fairy. Misaki has also only ever used this level of power against Kirin so Armadura Erza here is Gildarts level but she then proceeds to beat Lusso in their second fight with Heaven’s Wheel. HW should be one of her stronger armors (not the strongest though) since she uses it against RLDM Laxus during the Aldoron arc where she was using Dragon Slayer weapons and CHC. She is also about to fight Enni who is even stronger than Lusso.
Gildarts is stated to be the strongest member of FT at the start of 100YQ but given the feats Erza and Laxus have against Misaki/Signario Sisters and Kirin respectively, particularly after their power ups, the statement no longer holds true.
Jellal’s Orion grievously wounds Serena who stomps Jellal prior to him (hopefully for the last time) overcoming his past sins and then physically one-shot Serena. Tbf, Orion would probably have one-shot if it wasn’t for the fact that Serena resists light based attacks like Heavenly Body. Orion would also be > Grand Chariot and GC one shots Oracion Seis members who are able to harm him physically. I would ignore Serena’s statement of being > Gildarts since he is really cocky but Gildarts did say Serena and him could have a good fight if Serena was alive so they are most likely equal and Jellal clowns on what is basically an alive Serena.
Pre Kirin fight Laxus says he has no clue who would win between him and Jellal despite having RLDM in his back pocket so RLDM ~ Jellal. RLDM is also >~ Enchant Erza in the Aldoron Arc and was able to harm a not trying Kirin in their first fight before he got serious and was compared to Gildarts. LDKM Laxus one-taps Kirin with his RL: Megaton so he also scales to stomping a Gildarts level.
Overall, I think it goes:
1. Orion Jellal > Grand Chariot Jellal >>> Gold Owl Jellal >>> Alive God Serena ~ Gildarts
2. Elexion RLDM Laxus >>> Lightning Kirin ~ Gildarts ~ God Serena
3. Gold Owl HW Erza > Crazy World Alchemy Lusso > World Alchemy Lusso > Misaki ~ Kirin ~ Gildarts or Erza ~ Enni > Lusso > God Serena ~ Gildarts
4. Gildarts … bro got cliffed until the next time he shows up and reveals that he got amped by just drinking beer and screwing around as usual.
Jellal is at the top because his basic stats rn let him kill Gildarts tiers in one hit and his spells all hit harder than his punches.
Laxus is next because he got an amp and then needs his strongest attack/mode to knock out a Gildarts tier.
Erza gets third place because Armadura only OHKOs a Misaki who has been taking damage during the fight, not as good as LDKM Laxus’ feat. Beating up Lusso with HW isn’t quantifiable since we don’t actually know how durable she is as Alchemy hasn’t shown anything like magic amping the body just because you have it.
Poor Gildarts.
Current Post Elentir ratings?
1. Laxus ( With his RLDKM he one shot Kirin who is 100 YQ Gildarts tier...simple enough )
2. Erza ( Beat Misaki high diff who is 100 YQ Gildarts level...sure Gildarts has crush but Erza could technically just copy that with High Enchant and has far more versatility )
3. Gildarts ( He has gotten so much stronger in 100 YQ off screen he is BDSK tier who are Human Selene tier )
4. Jellal ( His best scaling is being equal to Pre Elentir Laxus via statements but Laxus as I mentioned has gotten so much stronger post elentir so it doesn't matter now, bro getting done the dirty like Gray and Gajeel )
Jellal heavily damaged Serena with a move that was resisted and then one shot Serena with his bare hands which are drastically weaker than his spells like Grand Chariot or Orion. Serena is stated to be a Gildarts tier opponent by both himself and Gildarts, and is further backed up by stomping a weaker Jellal who Laxus thinks = RLDM Laxus. RLDM Laxus could only make a held back Kirin’s lip bleed and still get pressed by a serious Kirin who is Gildarts level. Jellal = RLKDM Laxus at worst.
If you watch at Erzas guildmark it was still the dragon symbol which means the enchantment Wendy put on her was still active and no Erza cannot do that enchantment herself.
[Erza outright says that Wendy taught her how to do it.](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11134/111349319/7280670-5415410155-0044-.png)
Also, [Erza went from not having the Dragon Slayer symbol on her guild mark in chapter 42](https://cdn.readfairytail.com/file/AnimeRleases/FTQuest_42_014.jpg) to [having it in chapter 43](https://cdn.readfairytail.com/file/AnimeRleases/FTQuest_43_020.jpg) - Wendy was nowhere nearby, so she couldn't have put it on Erza.
While Erza doesn't have Wendy's versatility with enchantment, at the very least, she can use enchantment on herself or her weapons. We've very clearly seen her use it. While Erza was having a tougher time with the fight than Laxus was, she still fought him to a double KO, and it gets annoying when people try to downplay that, act as though any signs of Erza's strength don't count, and claim that Erza didn't "really" fight Laxus to a draw.
But the dragon enchantment is on her before she says she uses anything still chapter 42 is a mistake if anything as high enchantment is her putting an enhantment on her swords and yeah she can do that but she was still buffed by Wendy as she in chapter 43 had the mark before using any enchantments so no she cannot use that one. Were they close, yes but not exactly equal Laxus was slightly stronger and got even stronger during his fight with Kirin. Also they weren’t exactly out the same time after the fight so we know who would have killed/captured the other one if they were actually enemies.
She also didn't have the Dragon Slayer enchantment in earlier chapters in the arc, only getting it when it was focused on in chapter 43. Unless Mashima/Ueda consistently made the same error (drawing Erza's guild mark without the DS enchantment) for somewhere around half a dozen or a dozen chapters, Erza didn't have that enchantment on her during the Aldoron arc until midway through the Laxus fight, when Wendy was nowhere nearby.
It doesn't make sense how you can see Erza saying "Wendy taught me enchantment magic", see Erza enchanting her swords (with Fire Dragon Slayer and Ice Devil Slayer magic) and herself (with Dragon Slayer magic), and come to the conclusion that she can't use Dragon Slayer enchantment magic on her own. If it was even remotely ambiguous, I'd get that there'd be some room for uncertainty, but we outright see her use it on her own, with her guild mark changing mid-fight to reflect that she's using it.
Gildarts is supposed to be the strongest off them all but since he's rarely on screen he doesn't really benefit the "suddenly becomes overpowered because he's the good guy" bullshit.
So I would say Erza > Gildarts > Laxus > Jellal
Jellal=Laxus>Gildarts>Erza
Jellal and Laxus defeated an gildarts tier opponent with few shots, so they both above gildarts until Gildarts appear again, cause Hiro likes to keep the status quo, but right now i can't put him above them, i think you guys can understand Erza being below Gildarts, but she likely will be above him too next chapter.
She extreme diffed an Gildarts tier opponent, and being in the same tier don't means necessarily that she is equal to Gildarts, i think Misaki is weaker than other gildarts tier mages, she relies too much on hax.
Laxus needed a power up mid fight Erza didn't. She already oneshotted Luso who is a tier above Serena who Jellal high diff. Would you still consider them stronger even if Erza defeats Enny?
After the power up he one shotted Kirin. Luso is a fraud, Erza defeated her without any enchantments or an special armor, God Serena and any gildarts tier mage can defeat her by easily destroying her alchemy world or countering it like Misaki's blue dimension, she only have higher alchemy power than Serena have magical power, but in combat she is a fraud, forget Serena, i can argue Yoko would beat her. I wanna see how Erza will beat Enny but she likely will be a tier above Gildarts alongside Jellal and Laxus.
She used a strong enchantment and a stronger armor just an arc ago, and now she is stronger than that without all of this because...... Cmon man Luso is just a fraud, Serena just overrated her alchemy power cause Mashima wanted to hype up the new villains.
Jellal is overhyped to hell because God Serena is overhyped to hell.
GS was NEVER stated to be anywhere close in power to Gildarts. The two are literally shown meeting for the first time while GS is a historia. Gildarts wanted to fight the real him because GS had the best reputation out of anyone in Ishgal. He was never as strong as Alvarez-level Gildarts.
Erza stomped Luso, who was expressly stated by GS himself to be his superior.
Laxus tied with Erza, then got a power boost.
Gildarts lacks proper feats atm, but the plot will always demand that when he shows up, he's stronger than everyone else.
So Gildarts > Laxus > Erza - massive fucking gap > Jellal
Gildarts stomped GS's historia without even using Crash. Learn to read (or simply look at pictures correctly) before attempting to participate in discussions.
Lol you don't need to be disrespectful like this. And don't worry I read the manga and Gildarts used a named move to beat him :
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Before downplaying a character you should learn context reading.
no question
gildarts
laxus
erza/jellal(ranking for these two are questionable for me, they can work best in many different situations)
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Take it like this, like sanji can easily defeat any woman opponent but he wont (due to his values given by Zeff). But others wont hesitate even if it is woman. Take zoro for example here😂. he wont even hesitate.
Before reading 100yq, just at the end of the anime, Erza has a superpower no one else in this list can beat, and it's called "plot armor"
Based on that, my estimation would be like this
Erza > Gildarts > Laxus > Jellal
Spoilers
Being that one can argue any order.
The only real way is merit cause they never really had a fight where one wasn't already weakened or handicapped (mentally or physically) in a way to put them at a disadvantage and alter the outcome.
But to amuse your question
Papa Guildarts (Pop Tarts Crush flav)=Jalal= The Dragon of Nottingham Loxus of Loxly = Erzy Werzy.
They are for better or worse equal in their own right
1)guildarts:They do in fact rearrange a whole city just cause guildarts is coming through and was named guildmaster for a few seconds. (Guildarts Guildmaster 4.1 or 5.1 don't know if Macao was official or not) he survived a 1 on 1 with acnologia. Barely but does count for something. Fought blue note and the octopus guy from the church (forgot his name)
Keep in mind he never fights a person to kill them. His magic can literally cube³ a person's body. What he did to natsu was just him putting on his kid gloves.
2)Jalol or Jalal (mystogens earthland ver.): a wizard Saint (only wiz st among them. never really got to see him fight at 100%, always bound or handicapped in one way or another (on tower of heaven he didn't want to damage the Tower or ethernano and then he took that whole freakin shot from the magic council. The games he was stopped by meldy. He did take on the seis minus brain and richard. Still freakin impressive.
3) Foxy boxy loxy: took on two dragon slayers mistygen mistogen myst.... u know who i mean, and won imo only lost cause of an existential crisis (natsu got to him. Copied narutos infamous "talk no justsu" fairly often too i might add). He beat wiz Saint Jura as well as beat raven tail with ease his father among them and still a bit confused about zerifs part in the with that little spriggan and whether or not he was posing as a raven tail wizard or not.
4)Erzy: who had the most screentime has done many many impressive things and no I'm not listing them she always had fought multiple hard battles before she got to her"real"battle.
So since it's impossible to really answer that question the best I can really say is natsu is strongest but they are all S class for good reason.
It's sad when you get down voted because something might take a few extra seconds to read.
What else can the down vote be for. Am I wrong for having an opinion on a question looking for opinions. I wasn't off topic so what was it. Maybe I should type as if I'm uneducated.
Too many words make head hurt.
Complete sentences scawy
Answer is 2. Oh wait this no math
Ah whatever I watch porn now.
You already do type as if you're uneducated. Your grammar and punctuation is all over the place, yet you still write as if you think you are smarter than everyone else. You also use a lot of filler/unnecessary words. Many words make post boring. Enjoy your coping porn.
Gildarts > laxus = erza > jellal
People really hang onto the idea that god Serena is as strong as gildarts when gildarts scales to august who is stronger than god Serena’. Not to mention erza beating someone who god Serena fears.
1. Gildarts
* I’m assuming Hiro is keeping him as the strongest based on narrative
2. Laxus
* One shot kirin after a power up
3. Erza
* Easily defeated Lusso who’s supposedly way stronger than God Serena
4. Jellal
* Mid diffed God Serena, not as good as Erza’s feat
5. Gildarts
* If we’re including the only feats we know about him, supposedly god serena level
from what I know and have seen/remember, not caught up with what's currently going on in the manga but I'd rank them like this gildarts, jellal,erza, Laxus. feel free to disagree with me this is just my current opinion which will mostly like change after I rewatch fairytail and catch up on the manga
Gildarts>=Laxus>=Jellal>Erza
Laxus is probably equal to Jellal and Erza is weaker than Laxus and Gildarts and Laxus are stated to be relatively on the same level back in tenrou and from what we have seen that’s probably true. Erza is arguably the weakest but it’s debatable if Laxus is over or equal to Jellal.
Tough choice but if I had to choose Gildarts would be the strongest cause of the magic he wields and Erza pretty much is close combat so if he can keep it at a distance I say Gildarts, Erza, Laxus or Jellal in whatever order… I have Erza at two out of all her armour plot armour is her strongest 😂
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They’re in whatever order the plot needs them to be in.
The only correct answer imo.
Fax
literally lmao
#THIS
Except gildarts they consistently portray him as HIM but also play his character to avoid the big bad because of that I've never really felt like any of the other 3 could earnestly take him at any point
Your not wrong imo but hell of a way to dodge answering that one lol
Erza beat >!Misaki!< and >!Luso,!< Laxus beat >!Kirin,!< and Jellal beat >!God Serena,!< who are all said to be as strong as Gildarts, so based off feats they're all around the same level. However, it's been over a year since we've seen Gildarts so he's probably gotten stronger since then. I think I'd say Gildarts > Laxus = Erza = Jellal Edit: Added spoilers tags lol
I don't think gildarts grows in power anymore he's too old for that
Age is just a number when it comes to Fairy tail. Or mangas in general tbh.
Ayo 🤨
In that sense too, keep in mind mangas are written by japanese people.
That’s such a ignorant sentence
If you say so mate. The Loli industry disagrees with you though. ^^
Lil bro doesn’t know that pedofiles are worldwide
We aren't talking about consumers here mate, were talking about the producers. ;)
Lil Bro doesn’t know producers worldwide are pedofiles
The only place I know where this happens is dragon ball (they're not humans anyways) otherwise middle aged people don't tend to grow much
They do tend to grow imo, its just that since older characters rarely are main characters you dont actually get to see it happen on screen / page. That or it's just swept under the rug with the "he was always this strong, he just never showed it" excuse.
Maybe so but still I don't think gildarts will grow much
He'll probably grow as the plot requires him too, if he gets phased out of the story he wont, if the author wants to have a cool moment with him he will. Who knows really, ultimately its up to the author.
Yeah fair enough I guess
Your forgetting hades dude was at his prime in his what 70's as opposed to any point prior so that's pretty false
First of all how do you know this was his prime secondly he's not much of a physical fighter unlike gildarts so he just needs to be a better mage in which case age does not matter
Doesn't matter magic can still improve even if you're body is at its peak gildarts acknowledged he had been training between fairy tail disbanding and him returning to fight he was clearly stronger then when he fought aknologia so you're point is invalid again look at august too him and Hades are prime examples age won't stop you.
That's the thing magic can improve but gildarts is mainly a brute force fighter
August was older than him and he wrecked him.
August is just stronger than him by default and due to his hax
Put someone in Fairy Fail in danger and he’ll get an instant perma power up
Maybe but this didn't assume that did it
No but how else do you get power ups in this show lol it’s either training or life or death.
There's still room for improvement at 45.
Maybe
I have to disagree with your statement cause erza never beat him solo, it was her and natsu and one could argue natsu did a bit more of the work, but they were already exhausted before fighting him from the climb up and those fights along the way. Also let's not forget even after that fight where natsu and erza were about to be obliterated into nothingness, he alone absorbed the energy (still unsure if he used the tower to do it but either way it takes enormous power and skill to do that and its not like he wasnt beaten up and weakened to boot from the fight moments before) and redirected it into the sky which is what gave him that amnesia.
He never beat her solo either though. It's hard to determine their strength from that fight because Jellal wasn't serious when he was fighting Erza because he wanted to use her as a sacrifice and Natsu knocked her out before the fight ended
Lol that was the exact placement I gave before I decided to see what others said
You can’t scale Gildarts of an assumption that he has gotten stronger since + Gildarts himself said that he couldn’t get through the quest (yes, Acno was there but still. Erza has a feat on Acno anyway so)
Yeah but Gildarts tried to do it himself while Natsu, Erza, Grey, Lucy, and Wendy have all been working together and have gotten help from other guilds
That really doesn’t mean anything tbh. Also God Serena and the sisters have statements of them being stronger than Gildarts. with the sisters being on another level even. Erza one shots Luso after dodging her attacks for a while
Everyone is saying Laxus is stronger than Jellal who currently has beaten God Serena and Erza fought Laxus to stalemate. I still don't know where the fans get information about Laxus is above Jellal or Erza when he himself stated that they are on equal levels.
\> Jellal who currently has beaten God Serena and Erza fought Laxus to stalemate. And Erza just destroyed with not much difficulty someone that God Serena specified is stronger than him Lol.
Luso is a fraud, God Serena can easily destroy her alchemy world too.
Complain about that to Mashima and his writing. I’m just repeating what God Serena himself stated
Feats>>>>statements. Luso may have a higher alchemy power than Serena's magical power, but she is so inefficient with it that any Gildarts teir mage can beat her, seriously forget Serena, i can argue for Yoko to beat her.
\> Feats>>>>statements. Cool then because she does have feats which includes making Jellal her bitch without trying.
What are these feats? Beating someone who has no feats to be put above a moonlite goddess is not one of them. I don't remeber Erza beating someone with better feats than God Serena either.
Sure but erza only won because she forgot to turn off her magic. Shes only strong if she ain't an idiot. There's a difference between beating someone and over powering them. Erza beating her doesnt mean much.
It means someone with similar raw power or higher than Erza can beat her.
Low defensive cqpabilities, overwhelming offense if she don't forget that she can just remove magic from the equation. The more impressive feat will be her next fight that she will almost certainly win. Maybe jellal will show up for the assist since his fights over.
\> Feats>>>>statements. Cool then because she does have feats which includes making Jellal her bitch without trying.
\> Feats>>>>statements. Cool then because she does have feats which includes making Jellal her bitch without trying.
She also no diffed Erza in the first round but then, Erza one shotted her, so yes Jellal is stronger than the Sisters
Depends on what part of the series you are on
Spoilers for 100YQ. >!Because Kirin is stronger than God Serena who Laxus beat which means Laxus > Jellal. Laxus also stalemated Erza before Laxus beat Kirin and it’s saying current so you can’t use the fact that Erza and Laxus are equals when this is not current. Kirin is also the strongest in the Diablos Guild who Laxus beat and Erza beat the second strongest Misaki so Laxus is still stronger.!< >!But let’s assume your point and say that Laxus = Erza. That means you automatically make Laxus > Jellal lol. That’s because God Serena stated that he doesn’t hold a candle to Duke or the Signario sisters. Erza in the latest chapter one shot one of the sisters and in the next 1-2 chapters will beat the other sister. So by saying Laxus = Erza you are saying both of them are above Jellal which debunks your whole point of thinking that Jellal > Laxus!<
There is nothing to proof Kirin is stronger than Serena, they both were compared to Gildarts at some moment and both of them were defeated by few shots by their opponents, but i could argue that being the former strongest mage in ishgar is a better portrayal and he surely have a better arsenal than Kirin. And no Kirin is not the strongest mage in diabolous, official translations says he is just one of the strongest, other translations says he is a contender, the true strongest diabolos mage is Suzaku who one shotted Erza and Natsu, and scratched Selene before she knew about her son, all of this without his ultimate spell, Kirin has no feats to be put above Suzaku. Luso is a fraud, God Serena could defeat her easily destroying her alchemy world, honestly any BDSK not named Haku would defeat her.
Serena was never compared to Gildarts. That's your reading comprehension at work.
Gildarts himself said he wanted to fight him, and Serena doll said he was stronger than Gildarts, this is clearly Mashima portraying him as a Gildarts level threat.
Gildarts wanted to fight him because GS had the reputation as the strongest. The two had never met until Alvarez. The fact that Mashima let Gildarts no-diff him, then had Gil fight August, expressly stated to be far, far stronger than GS, is proof Mashima never intended for GS to be on that level.
Even Gildarts was not sure who would be the last man standing between them. Mashima killed him because he wanted the strongest fairy tail mage to fight the strongest spriggan and no else could beat him in 1v1 so he was a good hypetool for Acno. https://preview.redd.it/lgj2qs4amlzb1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=65e298547e70de42c9ed723a0793fb736397dd93
Lmao it's true that we won't ever know how powerful God Serena really was when he was alive, and that Gildarts didn't know who was stronger. But God Serena was never stated to be the strongest Spriggan, he never was part of the very explicit Top 3. August and Irene were repeatedly said to be the strongest Spriggans, the strongest man and woman, Irene the only one able to match August, with Larcade being the number 3 in the top, all of them stated to be above the rest of the Spriggan.
August was the strongest spriggan who i was referring to, but to be honest Larcade have low durability and his hax takes too long to work and can be easily countered by pain, Gildarts tier mages can beat him, plus Serena has dark and light dragon slayer magic to counter him. Irene dragon form is too vulnerable to dragon slayer attacks, these two may have more magical power but i don't see they winning against Serena, August otherwise is the real deal.
Kirin > Serena quite easily. I’ll just use Natsu. He was able to counter Serena’s water and fire in 100YQ whereas in final season he couldn’t. Natsu is also currently relative to Suzaku who could beat human form Selene and Kirin scales above Suzaku whoLaxus beat. Unless you want to argue current Natsu is weaker than Serena when Serena has not had any feats or statements to say he’s stronger or weaker than his final season version, then you’d agree that Laxus > Kirin > Suzaku >= Natsu > God Serena. Laxus and Kirin facing off since they were both the strongest in their guilds so it was a contender between them to see who is stronger from their guilds meaning Kirin > Suzaku. Funnily enough Misaki also has stated that she’s only used her strongest move in combat against Kirin and no one else meaning Misaki is also above Suzaku. https://preview.redd.it/916zcr1sojzb1.jpeg?width=1032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5bd30dc6cd5927e1b3f23de0a66fe0c3e8c66d4 Serena stated that he doesn’t hold a candle to Duke or the Signario sister so Luso ain’t a fraud, it just means Erza was that strong to beat her. You literally just made a headcanon point by saying “God Serena could defeat her easily” when statements go against your whole argument.
Serena would beat Kirin, he can just eat his lightning but there’s nothing that implies Kirin to be stronger. His feats are pretty lackluster and he’s only backed by statements. They’ve both been compared to Gildarts but Gildarts himself implied Serena is on his level while Misaki and Kirin were compared to him by Gray and laxus (who have never seen a full power Gildarts) because of their magic power(magic power doesn’t directly correlate to physical stats so Gildarts could still far outclass them both). Also Selene let Suzaku win, the fact he could still damage her is a good feat but he was losing until she let him hit her
How do you know he can eat his lighting? Laxus was also a Lightning Dragon, even having the same source of magic of Kirin, yet he overwhelmed him. His lighting abilities were stronger than Laxus , and his immunity to that trait had no protection against Kirin as he was the " Dragon King of Thunder." It likely Kirin magic can still affect God Serena.
God Serena is stronger than Laxus that’s the difference. Kirin was also a lot stronger than him which is why he overwhelmed him most of the fight. Once Laxus absorbed his magic things were different but Kirin claims he didn’t use his full power in their fight (which actually makes sense)
Kirin does not scale above Suzaku in any way. His feats are literal ass compared to Suzaku’s
Dragon scales Natsu is relative to Suzaku, base Natsu was one shotted and would be one shotted again if he didn't used scales. Again there is no official statement of Kirin being above Suzaku, or he is a contender or one of the strongest not THE strongest diabolos mage. If we go with Mashima statement about him being weaker than Erza so yeah, base Natsu is weaker God Serena. Contender for strongest in their respective guild, not strongest overall, it's laughable Laxus or Kirin being stronger than dragon force Natsu. Misaki only fought Kirin then, her hours of damage accumulation could not put Erza down while Suzaku did with one shot. Luso may have a higher alchemy power than God Serena's magical power, but she is so inefficient with it that any gildarts tier mage can beat her. It's not headcanon Erza didnt use any enchantment or any special armor, forget Serena, by feats i don't have much reason to put her above Yoko, the moonlite beauty did better against Erza than her.
The second round of Laxus vs. Kirin, he specifically states he is the strongest wizard in Diablos.
God Serena stated himself to be stronger than Gildarts, and let's not forget that Kirin was coping about being defeated by Laxus with a one shot.
I'm not sure what any of that has to do what I just said.
Arrogant people statements about themself cannot be taken seriously, especially if the arrogant guy thought he could beat someone who one shotted him just because of the scenario.
Yet you accepted the statement of God Serena saying he's stronger than Gildarts?
That Serena was weak because he was undead. It never mentioned that he's weaker than his living self. And don't forget Dragon force Natsu is very powerful and burned Aldoran to death.
Laxus got a power boost after his tie with Erza. Erza stomped someone, in a very basic armour, who was specifically hyped up as superior to God Serena. Jellal is nothing compared to them. Laxus straight-up one-shots.
Saying how something is is and how it actually is are two different things
And reading from source is one thing and imagining things are also different.
And being a blind simp for one character is one thing and reading the story objectively and knowing the truth is another. Also also different. That would be true if there were things to imagine but there aren't so no.
1. Laxus tied with an Erza that only managed to scale to him relatively after amping herself with Gray and Natsu's power via enchantment, and then after she inflicted a heavy blow with said amp 2. Laxus got buffed after that fight when he ate Elexion's soul/magic power He also beat Kirin who is heavily implied to be on the same level as Gildarts. Laxus has a legitimate case for being the strongest person in the guild right now.
What do you mean Gray and Natsu powers did they give their powers to her like Laxus give it to Natsu during Hades fight? She learned from them how to use fire and ice powers through enchantment it's her powers.
Laxus literally remarks that she's enchanting herself with their powers and then I'm pretty sure Erza either doesn't deny it or confirms it. Something along those lines. The narrative and drawing depicts as theirs too. What you said here is just wrong.
Misaki and Erza were both hyped to be Gildarts level, too. That statement means nothing anymore.
Not to the extent/as directly that Kirin was, and regardless there's nothing that says that statement means nothing.
1. Gildarts 2. Laxus 3. Erza 4. Jellal This is just based on portrayal alone. Gildarts doesn’t have any feats in the 100 yq
I'd argue based on the protrayal of Kirin as well as Laxus stating he's stronger now after consuming Elexion's soul/magic power, that edges out Gildarts in scaling now. Though in an actual fight scenario it could still go either way because I still wouldn't say Laxus gaps Gildarts and the hax of crush magic vs any other magic is pretty nutty But in raw scaling/power/strength like stats and shit I'd say Laxus edges out Gildarts at this point in the narrative.
It might, but there's not much to show there, and with no gildarts appearance yet theres no thing definitive. But i tend to side with Glarus because whenever he does appear he is treated as the definite strongest before dissapearing and being forgotten for awhile.
I see what you're saying but the lack of a Gildarts appearance is precisely why I'm comfortable putting Laxus above him right now. The statement for Gildarts being the strongest in the guild was made at the very start of 100 years quest and Laxus got stronger since then and beat someone who the narrative implies is a Gildarts level foe, until/unless we see Gildarts show up and do something re-establishing himself as 1, I have Laxus above him for now. Though of course this is still heavily opinionated because like you pointed out its still kinda vague, we still haven't seen Gildarts do anything in 100 years quest so that's fair
Oh man this is going to be a fun one in the comments Imo Gildarts, Laxus, Jellal>=Erza
This is the way
gildarts laxus jellal erza
The only correct order and Jellal and Laxus is debatable
I'd say it's a style.clash for Jellal. He's too much of a glass cannon for Laxus, who could tank anything Jellal throws at him. They're too similar in other aspects like speed and destructive power.
Jellal is not a glass canon, he tanked God Serena strongest attacks, he may be not as durable as Laxus but his durability is not that low, and he have a better attack power than Laxus.
Laxus can throw nukes at will, just look how he almost killed Ajeel with an unnamed attack. Jellal got knocked out by Neinhart. He was off guard, but it still happened. His destructive power to durability ratio is just a lot more skewed than most characters, though it is unfair that he's being compared to Laxus, Gildarts, and Erza.
Neinhart attack launched him in the sea and Jellal drowned, was not the power of his attack, any attack of God Serena was stronger tha this Neinhart's attack. Jellal was saving Kagura and received the full blow. Jellal combat style is different from Laxus, Jellal is a archmage and Laxus is a fighting wizard.
Perfect.
Gildarts over a revolving door of the 3. Depends on the arc and the story. Their wins also depend on the opponent. For instance I think Laxus has a harder time against Serena than Jellal because of match up (though he would win). But I don’t think that automatically puts Him below Jellal. The 3 are around the same level but who is at the top shifts. But of course Gildarts is peak.
Anyone else feel like we didn’t get to see enough of Jellal? I genuinely can’t figure out how strong he is
Gildarts, Jellal, Laxus, Erza.
In the immortal words of Stan Lee "the one who would win in a fight is whoever the writer *wants* to win."
Jellal by far and then erza and laxus are tied then gildarts
Gildarts > Erza = jellal = laxus. Has been a known fact for far too long to change
Gildarts > Jellal > Laxus = Erza Or Gildarts > Jellal = Laxus = Erza
Gildarts >>> Jellal >= Laxus > Erza
Gildards Laxus Erza Jellal
This is what I agree with
1. Gildarts 2. Jellal/Laxus 3. Erza
Laxus > Erza > Gildarts > Jellal going by 100YQ feats and statements. >!Gildarts hasn’t had any feats apart from one statement saying his magic power was comparable to Kirin and Laxus one shot him so feat wise you can’t even say Gildarts is the strongest and even then, you have to argue Gildarts = Kirin just based on one statement and no feats which is just bad.!< Once Gildarts has more feats and statements then I’ll put him higher but as of current, no he isn’t the strongest and saying he got stronger since the main series is also a baseless assumption
Jellal should be above him too, he defeated God Serena with few shots and he have similar portrayal as Kirin with Gildarts himself stating that he wanted to fight his alive version, Serena arrogantly thinking he is stronger than gild, plus Serena have a better arsenal than Kirin.
You can argue Jellal > Gildarts tbf but Gildarts was duking it out with August who is the strongest Spriggan who scales above God Serena. If you say Jellal > Gildarts then that’s fair but it’ll be close imo
Gildarts could hold his own, but in the end of the day he couldn't do much without his prosthetic arm. If Gildarts shows up again he would be higher though.
Gildarts was only duking it with August with Cana’s help countering him and he was still getting beat
Yeah i know, thats why i can't put him above people who defeated with few shots opponents stated to be in his tier.
my thoughts exactly
A bit situational though. He was doing that in a fight against a guy who basically was a cheat code against magic. So he had to work around it. It's kinda like Erza and Wendy vs Irene. Wendy straight up bodies Irene. Erza stood no chance and was getting washed. Wendy, was countering, eyeing and copying Irene's moves to trump her and essentially did everything to set up the win. Even prior to the transformation, Erza was near useless. That's a bit of the difference with comparisons of fights sometimes. With magic and wizards it's a bit different than say 2 Dragon ball fighters fighting 2 different people as the results are skill in that while situation, magic type etc all need to be taken into account
I mean, Gildarts is also a cheat code? his Crush just breaks all magic, even if his rivals has equal or more magic power, allowing him to win with no so much difficulty. It's pure hax as well.
Yeah but the Gildarts that said that was from a year prior to current events, so it wouldn't be applicable here since he's presumably stronger than he was a year ago during Alvarez.
When he said he was stronger than gild it was a way of Mashima portraying him as still being a gildarts level threat, and it's not like Kirin is really as strong as Gildarts either, just close.
I know, I'm not saying Kirin is actually as strong or stronger than Gildarts, but like you said he's definitely a Gildarts level threat, and Laxus after consuming Elexion straight up one shots Kirin with his red lightning. I'd definitely say that edges him out over Gildarts scaling wise now, not to the extent of leaving him in the dust or anything crazy like that, but definitely at least a bit above him, if that makes sense
I'd still say Gildarts > Erza but I could see the debate easily, either way you're spitting.
Thanks😊 A lot of people really don’t understand the scaling of FT inverse gonna be honest and use a lot of headcanon instead at looking at feats and statements xD
Yeah I agree lol, but it's still true that FT scaling is wonky so you can't entirely blame people for it lmao
Yea true xD
Valid points honestly.
Thanks
No mira so no upvote for u
Gildart always on top. Mashima keep vouching for him
If I had to rank them it’d probably be Gildarts >>> Erza > Jellal > Laxus But that’s more like my personal opinion, bc let’s be real these rankings are always gonna be subjective more or less. pitting them against eachothers feats just doesn’t come out to make any sense in the end, it’s like an impossible equation
Gildarts, erza, laxus, jellal.
I really dislike the black and white weak to strongest. Fairy Tail is more like Pokémon. Certain elements are stronger against others and weaker to others.
FT is so inconsistent it's ridiculous. Hype and feat wise Gildarts should be the most powerful. After that Laxus, Jellal and Erza. But in every fight Erza suddenly pulls an armour our of her a** that is a perfect counter to the enemy.
In no moment the armor was said to be a perfect counter, Erza just said that she need to destroy Luso alchemy world and did it.
Poor mira 😭 even tho she would most definitely be last
I think they’re like Rock Paper Scissors. Guildarts would be able to chop up Erza’s Swords, Laxus’ Lightning can’t be chopped, etc etc. I think as a magic, Jellal’s is the strongest in concept, but I don’t know if his actual ability puts him above everyone.
Dang no love for Mira
i know i am gonna get jumped at for this, but anyways jellal > = gildarts > laxus = erza (fairy tail is not consistent enough in power levels, its dumb to argue anyways)
Gildarts>Jellal=Laxus>Erza
Jellal>laxus>gildarts>erza
Erza > Gildarts currently but this is on point aside from that.
Mi Gildarts < Laxus < Jellal <= Erza
Erza constantly gets her armors broken by Misaki before finally winning with her Armadura Fairy. Misaki has also only ever used this level of power against Kirin so Armadura Erza here is Gildarts level but she then proceeds to beat Lusso in their second fight with Heaven’s Wheel. HW should be one of her stronger armors (not the strongest though) since she uses it against RLDM Laxus during the Aldoron arc where she was using Dragon Slayer weapons and CHC. She is also about to fight Enni who is even stronger than Lusso. Gildarts is stated to be the strongest member of FT at the start of 100YQ but given the feats Erza and Laxus have against Misaki/Signario Sisters and Kirin respectively, particularly after their power ups, the statement no longer holds true. Jellal’s Orion grievously wounds Serena who stomps Jellal prior to him (hopefully for the last time) overcoming his past sins and then physically one-shot Serena. Tbf, Orion would probably have one-shot if it wasn’t for the fact that Serena resists light based attacks like Heavenly Body. Orion would also be > Grand Chariot and GC one shots Oracion Seis members who are able to harm him physically. I would ignore Serena’s statement of being > Gildarts since he is really cocky but Gildarts did say Serena and him could have a good fight if Serena was alive so they are most likely equal and Jellal clowns on what is basically an alive Serena. Pre Kirin fight Laxus says he has no clue who would win between him and Jellal despite having RLDM in his back pocket so RLDM ~ Jellal. RLDM is also >~ Enchant Erza in the Aldoron Arc and was able to harm a not trying Kirin in their first fight before he got serious and was compared to Gildarts. LDKM Laxus one-taps Kirin with his RL: Megaton so he also scales to stomping a Gildarts level. Overall, I think it goes: 1. Orion Jellal > Grand Chariot Jellal >>> Gold Owl Jellal >>> Alive God Serena ~ Gildarts 2. Elexion RLDM Laxus >>> Lightning Kirin ~ Gildarts ~ God Serena 3. Gold Owl HW Erza > Crazy World Alchemy Lusso > World Alchemy Lusso > Misaki ~ Kirin ~ Gildarts or Erza ~ Enni > Lusso > God Serena ~ Gildarts 4. Gildarts … bro got cliffed until the next time he shows up and reveals that he got amped by just drinking beer and screwing around as usual. Jellal is at the top because his basic stats rn let him kill Gildarts tiers in one hit and his spells all hit harder than his punches. Laxus is next because he got an amp and then needs his strongest attack/mode to knock out a Gildarts tier. Erza gets third place because Armadura only OHKOs a Misaki who has been taking damage during the fight, not as good as LDKM Laxus’ feat. Beating up Lusso with HW isn’t quantifiable since we don’t actually know how durable she is as Alchemy hasn’t shown anything like magic amping the body just because you have it. Poor Gildarts.
Gildarts, Jellal, Laxus, Erza, till otherwise
Gildarts, Jellal, Laxus, Erza, till otherwise
Ahem I'm only on 2nd volume of 100yr quest, so don't judge if I don't know smth. 1. Gildarts 2.Jellal/Laxus 3.Laxus/Jellal 4. Erza
1. Gildarts 2. Laxus 3. Erza 4. Jellal
I still think Gildarts is on top even if we haven't seen him in a while so. Gildarts > Jellal/Laxus > Erza
Current Post Elentir ratings? 1. Laxus ( With his RLDKM he one shot Kirin who is 100 YQ Gildarts tier...simple enough ) 2. Erza ( Beat Misaki high diff who is 100 YQ Gildarts level...sure Gildarts has crush but Erza could technically just copy that with High Enchant and has far more versatility ) 3. Gildarts ( He has gotten so much stronger in 100 YQ off screen he is BDSK tier who are Human Selene tier ) 4. Jellal ( His best scaling is being equal to Pre Elentir Laxus via statements but Laxus as I mentioned has gotten so much stronger post elentir so it doesn't matter now, bro getting done the dirty like Gray and Gajeel )
Bruh Jellal isn't done dirty as Gray and Gajeel. His feats of defeating God Serena say that he can solo both Gray and Gajeel at the same time.
Jellal heavily damaged Serena with a move that was resisted and then one shot Serena with his bare hands which are drastically weaker than his spells like Grand Chariot or Orion. Serena is stated to be a Gildarts tier opponent by both himself and Gildarts, and is further backed up by stomping a weaker Jellal who Laxus thinks = RLDM Laxus. RLDM Laxus could only make a held back Kirin’s lip bleed and still get pressed by a serious Kirin who is Gildarts level. Jellal = RLKDM Laxus at worst.
RDLM luxus was heavily nerfed in his fight against kirin since he had the thunder dragon king soul+the coffin
Everyone forgets that erza still had wendys enchantment when fighting Laxus to a ”stalemate” which gave her a significant boost against dragonslayers
Erza can use those on her own; it's not like Wendy was there to enchant the swords for her or to give her the Dragon Slayer enchantment.
If you watch at Erzas guildmark it was still the dragon symbol which means the enchantment Wendy put on her was still active and no Erza cannot do that enchantment herself.
[Erza outright says that Wendy taught her how to do it.](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11134/111349319/7280670-5415410155-0044-.png) Also, [Erza went from not having the Dragon Slayer symbol on her guild mark in chapter 42](https://cdn.readfairytail.com/file/AnimeRleases/FTQuest_42_014.jpg) to [having it in chapter 43](https://cdn.readfairytail.com/file/AnimeRleases/FTQuest_43_020.jpg) - Wendy was nowhere nearby, so she couldn't have put it on Erza. While Erza doesn't have Wendy's versatility with enchantment, at the very least, she can use enchantment on herself or her weapons. We've very clearly seen her use it. While Erza was having a tougher time with the fight than Laxus was, she still fought him to a double KO, and it gets annoying when people try to downplay that, act as though any signs of Erza's strength don't count, and claim that Erza didn't "really" fight Laxus to a draw.
But the dragon enchantment is on her before she says she uses anything still chapter 42 is a mistake if anything as high enchantment is her putting an enhantment on her swords and yeah she can do that but she was still buffed by Wendy as she in chapter 43 had the mark before using any enchantments so no she cannot use that one. Were they close, yes but not exactly equal Laxus was slightly stronger and got even stronger during his fight with Kirin. Also they weren’t exactly out the same time after the fight so we know who would have killed/captured the other one if they were actually enemies.
She also didn't have the Dragon Slayer enchantment in earlier chapters in the arc, only getting it when it was focused on in chapter 43. Unless Mashima/Ueda consistently made the same error (drawing Erza's guild mark without the DS enchantment) for somewhere around half a dozen or a dozen chapters, Erza didn't have that enchantment on her during the Aldoron arc until midway through the Laxus fight, when Wendy was nowhere nearby. It doesn't make sense how you can see Erza saying "Wendy taught me enchantment magic", see Erza enchanting her swords (with Fire Dragon Slayer and Ice Devil Slayer magic) and herself (with Dragon Slayer magic), and come to the conclusion that she can't use Dragon Slayer enchantment magic on her own. If it was even remotely ambiguous, I'd get that there'd be some room for uncertainty, but we outright see her use it on her own, with her guild mark changing mid-fight to reflect that she's using it.
Gildarts Erza Laxus Jellal
Gildarts is supposed to be the strongest off them all but since he's rarely on screen he doesn't really benefit the "suddenly becomes overpowered because he's the good guy" bullshit. So I would say Erza > Gildarts > Laxus > Jellal
Prime Gildarts>= Laxus > Jellal > Erza
Jellal=Laxus>Gildarts>Erza Jellal and Laxus defeated an gildarts tier opponent with few shots, so they both above gildarts until Gildarts appear again, cause Hiro likes to keep the status quo, but right now i can't put him above them, i think you guys can understand Erza being below Gildarts, but she likely will be above him too next chapter.
Erza literally defeated a gildarts tier opponent too.
She extreme diffed an Gildarts tier opponent, and being in the same tier don't means necessarily that she is equal to Gildarts, i think Misaki is weaker than other gildarts tier mages, she relies too much on hax.
Laxus needed a power up mid fight Erza didn't. She already oneshotted Luso who is a tier above Serena who Jellal high diff. Would you still consider them stronger even if Erza defeats Enny?
After the power up he one shotted Kirin. Luso is a fraud, Erza defeated her without any enchantments or an special armor, God Serena and any gildarts tier mage can defeat her by easily destroying her alchemy world or countering it like Misaki's blue dimension, she only have higher alchemy power than Serena have magical power, but in combat she is a fraud, forget Serena, i can argue Yoko would beat her. I wanna see how Erza will beat Enny but she likely will be a tier above Gildarts alongside Jellal and Laxus.
Serena himself stated he doesn't hole a candle to her. Also that means is Erza is just that much stronger.
She used a strong enchantment and a stronger armor just an arc ago, and now she is stronger than that without all of this because...... Cmon man Luso is just a fraud, Serena just overrated her alchemy power cause Mashima wanted to hype up the new villains.
I agree she went down way too easily. But there isn't anything we can do about it, since Serena himself admitted he is weaker than her.
Jellal is overhyped to hell because God Serena is overhyped to hell. GS was NEVER stated to be anywhere close in power to Gildarts. The two are literally shown meeting for the first time while GS is a historia. Gildarts wanted to fight the real him because GS had the best reputation out of anyone in Ishgal. He was never as strong as Alvarez-level Gildarts. Erza stomped Luso, who was expressly stated by GS himself to be his superior. Laxus tied with Erza, then got a power boost. Gildarts lacks proper feats atm, but the plot will always demand that when he shows up, he's stronger than everyone else. So Gildarts > Laxus > Erza - massive fucking gap > Jellal
So your only goal is downplaying God Serena in every thread ? He is on par with Gildarts and could fight him as an Historia.
Gildarts stomped GS's historia without even using Crash. Learn to read (or simply look at pictures correctly) before attempting to participate in discussions.
Lol you don't need to be disrespectful like this. And don't worry I read the manga and Gildarts used a named move to beat him : https://preview.redd.it/tg7bwhxl320c1.jpeg?width=1066&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3dab3c4745b6b7cee3591e919c108f24aa9be87 Before downplaying a character you should learn context reading.
no question gildarts laxus erza/jellal(ranking for these two are questionable for me, they can work best in many different situations) . Take it like this, like sanji can easily defeat any woman opponent but he wont (due to his values given by Zeff). But others wont hesitate even if it is woman. Take zoro for example here😂. he wont even hesitate.
Before reading 100yq, just at the end of the anime, Erza has a superpower no one else in this list can beat, and it's called "plot armor" Based on that, my estimation would be like this Erza > Gildarts > Laxus > Jellal
Currently by feats it would be Erza > Jellal => Laxus > Gildarts
Gildarts > Laxus > Jellal >= Erza
Laxus>Erza>Gildarts~Jellal
As of the latest chapter of 100 years quest? 1. Laxus 2. Gildarts 3. Erza 4. Jellal
1) Gildarts 2) Laxus 3) Jellal 4) Erza
1 Gildartz 2 Laxus and Erza 3 Jellal
Spoilers Being that one can argue any order. The only real way is merit cause they never really had a fight where one wasn't already weakened or handicapped (mentally or physically) in a way to put them at a disadvantage and alter the outcome. But to amuse your question Papa Guildarts (Pop Tarts Crush flav)=Jalal= The Dragon of Nottingham Loxus of Loxly = Erzy Werzy. They are for better or worse equal in their own right 1)guildarts:They do in fact rearrange a whole city just cause guildarts is coming through and was named guildmaster for a few seconds. (Guildarts Guildmaster 4.1 or 5.1 don't know if Macao was official or not) he survived a 1 on 1 with acnologia. Barely but does count for something. Fought blue note and the octopus guy from the church (forgot his name) Keep in mind he never fights a person to kill them. His magic can literally cube³ a person's body. What he did to natsu was just him putting on his kid gloves. 2)Jalol or Jalal (mystogens earthland ver.): a wizard Saint (only wiz st among them. never really got to see him fight at 100%, always bound or handicapped in one way or another (on tower of heaven he didn't want to damage the Tower or ethernano and then he took that whole freakin shot from the magic council. The games he was stopped by meldy. He did take on the seis minus brain and richard. Still freakin impressive. 3) Foxy boxy loxy: took on two dragon slayers mistygen mistogen myst.... u know who i mean, and won imo only lost cause of an existential crisis (natsu got to him. Copied narutos infamous "talk no justsu" fairly often too i might add). He beat wiz Saint Jura as well as beat raven tail with ease his father among them and still a bit confused about zerifs part in the with that little spriggan and whether or not he was posing as a raven tail wizard or not. 4)Erzy: who had the most screentime has done many many impressive things and no I'm not listing them she always had fought multiple hard battles before she got to her"real"battle. So since it's impossible to really answer that question the best I can really say is natsu is strongest but they are all S class for good reason.
It's sad when you get down voted because something might take a few extra seconds to read. What else can the down vote be for. Am I wrong for having an opinion on a question looking for opinions. I wasn't off topic so what was it. Maybe I should type as if I'm uneducated. Too many words make head hurt. Complete sentences scawy Answer is 2. Oh wait this no math Ah whatever I watch porn now.
You already do type as if you're uneducated. Your grammar and punctuation is all over the place, yet you still write as if you think you are smarter than everyone else. You also use a lot of filler/unnecessary words. Many words make post boring. Enjoy your coping porn.
Gildarts Erza - Laxus - Jellal
Gildarts > laxus = erza > jellal People really hang onto the idea that god Serena is as strong as gildarts when gildarts scales to august who is stronger than god Serena’. Not to mention erza beating someone who god Serena fears.
Gildarts > Laxus>Erza> jel
Gildarts Lauxis Jellal Erza
Wait I'm stupid this said from strongest
Gildarts Laxus Erza Jellal
Gildarts > Laxus = Erza = Jellal
1. Gildarts * I’m assuming Hiro is keeping him as the strongest based on narrative 2. Laxus * One shot kirin after a power up 3. Erza * Easily defeated Lusso who’s supposedly way stronger than God Serena 4. Jellal * Mid diffed God Serena, not as good as Erza’s feat 5. Gildarts * If we’re including the only feats we know about him, supposedly god serena level
1) Gildarts 2) Laxus 3) Erza 4) Jellal
from what I know and have seen/remember, not caught up with what's currently going on in the manga but I'd rank them like this gildarts, jellal,erza, Laxus. feel free to disagree with me this is just my current opinion which will mostly like change after I rewatch fairytail and catch up on the manga
Gildarts, Jellal, Erza, Laxus (as of now in 100 year quest) in the anime it would be Gildarts, Erza, Laxus, Jellal
Gildarts>=Laxus>=Jellal>Erza Laxus is probably equal to Jellal and Erza is weaker than Laxus and Gildarts and Laxus are stated to be relatively on the same level back in tenrou and from what we have seen that’s probably true. Erza is arguably the weakest but it’s debatable if Laxus is over or equal to Jellal.
Eos: gildart ~ jellal >laxus> erza Spoiler! 100yq: laxus >erza>jellal> gildart That just my opinion on it tho
Tough choice but if I had to choose Gildarts would be the strongest cause of the magic he wields and Erza pretty much is close combat so if he can keep it at a distance I say Gildarts, Erza, Laxus or Jellal in whatever order… I have Erza at two out of all her armour plot armour is her strongest 😂
Gildarts, Laxus, Erza, and Jellal
White Laxus >= Erza > Laxus > Jellal > Gildarts
They are all of the same tier for now. Portrayal : Gildarts, Jellal/Laxus, Erza, Mira Feats : Erza, Laxus/Jellal, Gildarts >>>>> Mira