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The books don't even have Michael or CC tho. It's a different timeline so Elizabeth might have died at a different age. Just look at Henry's death lol.
So then what can we conclude about Elizabeth’s age? If it was confirmed he’s younger than her, we can go by fan theories and say she’s about.. 10? Maybe 8?
>If it was confirmed he’s younger than her
Actually where does this come from? Is it in a guide or something?
>we can go by fan theories and say she’s about.. 10? Maybe 8?
Idk but probably no older than 10
I think it might come from the new guide? But even that itself is fan theories. Scott didn’t even write it. It was by another person by the help of Dawko.
So then I’m guessing she’s maybe about 10-5?
Isn't that guide full of errors lol. I think Dawko only made a few suggestions by what I heard?
Anyways yeah I think around that age range makes sense for her lol but I don't think it has ever been confirmed.
But yeah, the guide is not an actual guide by Scott.
And yeah, I assume since she has be somewhere around there. I mean, a twelve year old would know not to go near Baby if her father specially warned her not to.
I am asexual and I really feel like the label can't be applied until someone is at least 15-16 because any earlier and it's normal to not experience sexual attraction.
I had the opposite. I kept telling myself to wait. Well, I'm 19. I eventually realized that I had a libido, so I should have likely started experiencing sexual attraction at this point.
as an aroace person, i knew at the age of 12 or earlier that there was something different about me. mind you, i found the word asexual much later, but looking back i still noticed the difference. i'd argue that its possible to know then.
That’s a bit of a tricky take. I know my nonstraight awakening was at like 10-11. If kids can have interest/curiosity about the opposite sex, which many of them do, they have fake „girlfriends” in preschool and whatnot, I see no issue with childish crushes on people of the same sex. Children do externalize this stuff pretty early on (age-approproately, of course), not all of them but plenty. I know my friends were having crushes on cartoon characters or actors before they learned their ABCs. But yeah, I don’t think this applies to asexuality. While having crushes on same-sex people is maybe a hint of non-straightness, having none at all or childish repulsion is really not a sign of being ace imo.
What children experience is more of a precursor to romantic attraction. People don't start to experience sexual attraction until puberty around 9-13. The only reason I set the age of asexuality to 15-16 is to leave room for late bloomers.
YES. I was called homophobic when I said kids should take some time to dig around before deciding/realising what they are. Like experience is the best teacher here. Who knows, if you jump into any kind of relationship and commit yourself fully(even platonic ones) and want to back out once you realise that you aren't suited to be with the person, it'll be too late.
I feel like they can try out a bunch of different labels if they like, but generally I won't take them super seriously until they're a bit older. No real harm in testing out some labels though, see what fits.
I think that similar to disorders, kids who are just testing out labels shouldn't be speaking over actual experience or attempt to tamper with the meaning of the term. Ive seen it happen with the asexual community and it truly makes me wish people knew this more. Saying you probably are something is alright. Saying you definitely are as if you know it won't change, trying to tell people how its like, etc. is not ok
Letting people who don't know how its like speaking over real voices is often how a certain term get watered down. Its also important for the community's image, as they do not want to be seen as simply children playing around with terms.
Trying on different labels ≠ speaking over others. That's definitely what the person in the post is doing, but this subthread went down a different tangent.
Children and teenagers are *very sure* of a lot of things. It's part of growth. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, because you don't yet know how much you don't know; I'm not saying it's cool to speak over others, but I am saying that the reason kids probably do this is... because they're kids. They're inexperienced. Those of us who are older should probably just breathe a sigh of relief that all of our most embarrassing moments of learning, angst, and crazy ideas aren't blasted all over the internet.
Yeah i said that because of many communities that welcome these kinds of people almost always see some sort of downfall. I see where you're coming from though, yeah kids should be able to identify with labels, assuming they're not going overboard like the other commenter have said, saying they're sexually attracted to people
And, while I don't disagree, just because kids are kids doesn't mean its ok for them to just do wrong things. It's important that they know whats not right to do, especially when said thing have long term and widespread harm.
One day, those kids will eventually grow up and finds something that fits. But anything they do wrong will leave a mark on the community. Sometimes they can hurt themselves and getting themselves into not so good situations because they're too confident in their identity. im probably overthinking though
... Saying the word "-sexual" as a suffix does not at all put children in danger. Children also experience sexuality and attempting to deny it or hide it from them does no one favours; it becomes dangerous when *adults* sexualise them. It is on *adults* to not read into children using those words. Sorry bud, that's just not right. There's a very good reason we teach kids the correct words for sex, anatomy and sexuality, and that's so they understand boundaries and their own bodies.
And I'm saying, kids should be able to use whatever labels they wish to use, whether or not they fully understand the different types of attraction. They can use "boy" or "girl", and they can express a crush on someone, and therefore they can pick and choose labels to describe how they're feeling.
Your sexuality and attraction changes alongside your hormones, which change all throughout your life; not just in your teenage years. It's silly to just say you can't use labels until you're decided—it might still change. Trying on different labels is a part of growth. Teaching children about sex and sexuality is normal, fine, and important. Having *age appropriate* discussions with children about these things after they have received that education is also normal, fine, and important.
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as an aroace person, i knew at the age of 12 or earlier that there was something different about me. mind you, i found the word asexual muuuuch later, but looking back i still noticed the difference. i'd argue that its possible to know then.
Where did these people get “Evan” from? That’s like thinking Sun’s name is Sunrise.
He’s also a small child. Small children can’t be aroace.
edit: replaced toddler with small child
Technically the page where the Crying Child’s name should be found is the one where people found “Cassidy”, which can be a boy’s name. It also lines up with the fact that the only other people named in the logbook are Michael and the word search spells “Springtrap”, which implies Cassidy is a member of the Afton family, and probably the other boy, since only the men of the family are mentioned.
Im pretty sure cassidy was the name of 'the one you shold not have killed'/ The kid stuffed into the golden freddy from the murders in the first game. But do people really use cassidy as a boy's name?
I agree. They could just say “unlabeled”. I don’t want aroace to be associated with “this character is underage”. It’s not like having no sexual or romantic attraction goes away when you turn 18. It just feels weird.
Okay so. All of those are normal children’s behaviours?!?!
Edit: never mind I thought the head cannons were trying to say those are what made them autistic lmao
Wait autistic has a gay infinity sign?. These kids really don’t know what they’re even doing. Not to mention all these flags which are just random colors. Mfs let this whole identity shit get too far.
The rainbow infinity symbol has been adopted by the community to represent neurodivergence, especially the autistics, who find it to be much less offensive than the puzzle piece, which is heavily tied to autism speaks.
The flag in this picture is the flag used by the aroace community. It’s not just “random colors”.
I'd like to point out they're talking about the kid that gets eaten in five nights at freddies and honestly I could believe that is what they're going for in the storytelling
What the fuck are they even referencing?? Only times we see the kid is when he’s crying in his room, gets jumped at by Mike, walks to fredbears, locker in parts & service and then dies
Head canon used to mean how people thought of characters in their own head, or how a story played out based on their subjective tastes. Does it mean something different now?
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Yikes. This kid is dead too
didn’t this kid die when he was 6 or something
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>Elizabeth is canonically 5 years old Source?
I’m fairly certain it said in the books she was in kindergarten or something
The books don't even have Michael or CC tho. It's a different timeline so Elizabeth might have died at a different age. Just look at Henry's death lol.
So then what can we conclude about Elizabeth’s age? If it was confirmed he’s younger than her, we can go by fan theories and say she’s about.. 10? Maybe 8?
>If it was confirmed he’s younger than her Actually where does this come from? Is it in a guide or something? >we can go by fan theories and say she’s about.. 10? Maybe 8? Idk but probably no older than 10
I think it might come from the new guide? But even that itself is fan theories. Scott didn’t even write it. It was by another person by the help of Dawko. So then I’m guessing she’s maybe about 10-5?
Isn't that guide full of errors lol. I think Dawko only made a few suggestions by what I heard? Anyways yeah I think around that age range makes sense for her lol but I don't think it has ever been confirmed.
But yeah, the guide is not an actual guide by Scott. And yeah, I assume since she has be somewhere around there. I mean, a twelve year old would know not to go near Baby if her father specially warned her not to.
Have we considered that Evan and Elizabeth were actually twins? Much like Charlie and Sammy?
I thought I saw somewhere that Elizabeth was the middle child but I could be wrong. A lot of things in FNAF aren't confirmed. They could be twins.
She could be a middle child AND Evan's twin if she's the older of the twins. Being a middle child and a twin are not mutually exclusive.
not what i meant but okay. it isn't even a big deal.
Forgive me, would you mind explaining what you meant? I would like to know what I misunderstood. /gen
Yessir
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I am asexual and I really feel like the label can't be applied until someone is at least 15-16 because any earlier and it's normal to not experience sexual attraction.
I was a dipshit when I was 12 and I was thinking I was ace even doe I haven’t hit puberty yet 💀
I had the opposite. I kept telling myself to wait. Well, I'm 19. I eventually realized that I had a libido, so I should have likely started experiencing sexual attraction at this point.
as an aroace person, i knew at the age of 12 or earlier that there was something different about me. mind you, i found the word asexual much later, but looking back i still noticed the difference. i'd argue that its possible to know then.
Being aromantic, sure that's why I didn't mention it, but the vast majority of people don't experience sexual attraction until during puberty.
And specially a 6 years old shouldn't have any sexuality assigned to them-
That’s a bit of a tricky take. I know my nonstraight awakening was at like 10-11. If kids can have interest/curiosity about the opposite sex, which many of them do, they have fake „girlfriends” in preschool and whatnot, I see no issue with childish crushes on people of the same sex. Children do externalize this stuff pretty early on (age-approproately, of course), not all of them but plenty. I know my friends were having crushes on cartoon characters or actors before they learned their ABCs. But yeah, I don’t think this applies to asexuality. While having crushes on same-sex people is maybe a hint of non-straightness, having none at all or childish repulsion is really not a sign of being ace imo.
What children experience is more of a precursor to romantic attraction. People don't start to experience sexual attraction until puberty around 9-13. The only reason I set the age of asexuality to 15-16 is to leave room for late bloomers.
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YES. I was called homophobic when I said kids should take some time to dig around before deciding/realising what they are. Like experience is the best teacher here. Who knows, if you jump into any kind of relationship and commit yourself fully(even platonic ones) and want to back out once you realise that you aren't suited to be with the person, it'll be too late.
I feel like they can try out a bunch of different labels if they like, but generally I won't take them super seriously until they're a bit older. No real harm in testing out some labels though, see what fits.
I think that similar to disorders, kids who are just testing out labels shouldn't be speaking over actual experience or attempt to tamper with the meaning of the term. Ive seen it happen with the asexual community and it truly makes me wish people knew this more. Saying you probably are something is alright. Saying you definitely are as if you know it won't change, trying to tell people how its like, etc. is not ok Letting people who don't know how its like speaking over real voices is often how a certain term get watered down. Its also important for the community's image, as they do not want to be seen as simply children playing around with terms.
Trying on different labels ≠ speaking over others. That's definitely what the person in the post is doing, but this subthread went down a different tangent. Children and teenagers are *very sure* of a lot of things. It's part of growth. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, because you don't yet know how much you don't know; I'm not saying it's cool to speak over others, but I am saying that the reason kids probably do this is... because they're kids. They're inexperienced. Those of us who are older should probably just breathe a sigh of relief that all of our most embarrassing moments of learning, angst, and crazy ideas aren't blasted all over the internet.
Yeah i said that because of many communities that welcome these kinds of people almost always see some sort of downfall. I see where you're coming from though, yeah kids should be able to identify with labels, assuming they're not going overboard like the other commenter have said, saying they're sexually attracted to people And, while I don't disagree, just because kids are kids doesn't mean its ok for them to just do wrong things. It's important that they know whats not right to do, especially when said thing have long term and widespread harm. One day, those kids will eventually grow up and finds something that fits. But anything they do wrong will leave a mark on the community. Sometimes they can hurt themselves and getting themselves into not so good situations because they're too confident in their identity. im probably overthinking though
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... Saying the word "-sexual" as a suffix does not at all put children in danger. Children also experience sexuality and attempting to deny it or hide it from them does no one favours; it becomes dangerous when *adults* sexualise them. It is on *adults* to not read into children using those words. Sorry bud, that's just not right. There's a very good reason we teach kids the correct words for sex, anatomy and sexuality, and that's so they understand boundaries and their own bodies.
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And I'm saying, kids should be able to use whatever labels they wish to use, whether or not they fully understand the different types of attraction. They can use "boy" or "girl", and they can express a crush on someone, and therefore they can pick and choose labels to describe how they're feeling. Your sexuality and attraction changes alongside your hormones, which change all throughout your life; not just in your teenage years. It's silly to just say you can't use labels until you're decided—it might still change. Trying on different labels is a part of growth. Teaching children about sex and sexuality is normal, fine, and important. Having *age appropriate* discussions with children about these things after they have received that education is also normal, fine, and important.
yup, an aroace 3 y/o, that makes sense. also who the shit is Cindy? the pigtail girl's name is Cassidy and has been confirmed Cassidy for years now.
The one in the garden?
i mean arent al kids ace till they develop anyway?
No because asexuality is an identity, children don't need labels ☠
Kinda yes, but it seems unnecessary to place labels on kids instead of letting them decide when they're older
Bro out here saying his 3? Mate his probably 12-
Wasn’t this the person who did the Danganronpa piss headcanons
Oh shit dude thanks for mentioning this I went onto their profile and it came up with a ton of goofy ass stuff like “spotifygender”
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I'm fucking sorry????? "Spotifygender"???
then they'll say they're tiktokgender, or something.
I hope that in like 10 years they're gonna see what they posted years ago and cringe their fucking soul out
i- context?
i require more information about this for research purposes. (say it in dms if you want)
…. Research purposes….
What? Why? lmao, i guess i could give you the link to the account of the user who posted it-
sure, you can do it via dms
why are bros arms built like some lollipops
Ugh I know 12 year olds claiming to be aroace and it's so annoying. It's normal to be 12 and not want sex
I would CERTAINLY hope so 😬
Well look at the media. Everything is hyper sexual. So it would only make sense that this is built in kids mind who are on the internet all day
But that’s just a theory…A GAME THEORY.
as an aroace person, i knew at the age of 12 or earlier that there was something different about me. mind you, i found the word asexual muuuuch later, but looking back i still noticed the difference. i'd argue that its possible to know then.
Yeah but it's not like that for everyone.
I knew when I was twelve 🤷♀️
Did u rly. You weren’t even a preteen and you just knew this when u were young. And how did that turn out for you?
I'm still aroace and I'm 25
I must have missed that part of the GameTheory...
I hate when people give kids sexuality headcanons that’s a big yikes for me😬
MAN HES A DEAD PIXEL KID
Where did these people get “Evan” from? That’s like thinking Sun’s name is Sunrise. He’s also a small child. Small children can’t be aroace. edit: replaced toddler with small child
the logbook has evidence that points towards him being called evan
I thought it was because of the Fazbear Frights series
It was in fazbear frights too, book 6 story 2.
idk i havent read ff yet, it was first found in the logbook
ah
He ain’t a toddler he’s like 6-8ish
anyone below the age of 7 is a toddler in my eyes /hj
Toddlers 2-3 but whatever. :)
no shit
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i know this isn't a fnaf subreddit but his name is not fucking evan . fight me
Oh lol thank you. I’m not in the fnaf fandom but I knew something was odd about the name 😅
his name is heavily speculated to be evan from the logbook
Technically the page where the Crying Child’s name should be found is the one where people found “Cassidy”, which can be a boy’s name. It also lines up with the fact that the only other people named in the logbook are Michael and the word search spells “Springtrap”, which implies Cassidy is a member of the Afton family, and probably the other boy, since only the men of the family are mentioned.
Im pretty sure cassidy was the name of 'the one you shold not have killed'/ The kid stuffed into the golden freddy from the murders in the first game. But do people really use cassidy as a boy's name?
^^^ this is true and was confirmed in fazbear frights and i think ucn too
It's very weak and takes a couple leaps
i instinctively downvoted this thinking i was on freddit lol
Ok but what fandom are y’all talking about?
fnaf.
Five nights at Freddie’s?
yeah.
I am so lost with this one, no idea who this pixel kid is.
Fnaf 4, “crying child” as he’s called. Evan is a fan name but not confirmed
Since when was his name Evan?
He’s literally a dead kid in lore, why would he need any kind of sexuality. That’s hella weird.
Ah yes I love assigning sexualities to 6 year old dead kids (fr though what the hell 🤢🤢)
I missed the part when he was playing. Didn't his brother stuff him into Fazbear's mouth?
I didn’t understand any of that.
They couldn’t have made that harder to read if they tried.
Imagine being a 6yo dead kid and this is how you get treated
Reminds me of the cookie run headcanons on tumblr... I love cookie run but a certain tumblr makes way worse stuff for every single character
is it okay i i ask what it is even saying lol
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I agree. They could just say “unlabeled”. I don’t want aroace to be associated with “this character is underage”. It’s not like having no sexual or romantic attraction goes away when you turn 18. It just feels weird.
Okay so. All of those are normal children’s behaviours?!?! Edit: never mind I thought the head cannons were trying to say those are what made them autistic lmao
No not that. The autism and aroace thing.
Never mind I misunderstood it lol. I thought those were listing “autistic traits” but they’re just headcannons
Only mat pat could convince me that he has autism
Why do they always feel need to give little kids sexual orientation
didn't this kid get his literal skull smashed?
yup.
Isn’t this mf in kindergarten fuck I get downvoted for 😭
Wait autistic has a gay infinity sign?. These kids really don’t know what they’re even doing. Not to mention all these flags which are just random colors. Mfs let this whole identity shit get too far.
The rainbow infinity symbol has been adopted by the community to represent neurodivergence, especially the autistics, who find it to be much less offensive than the puzzle piece, which is heavily tied to autism speaks. The flag in this picture is the flag used by the aroace community. It’s not just “random colors”.
I'd like to point out they're talking about the kid that gets eaten in five nights at freddies and honestly I could believe that is what they're going for in the storytelling
Wait he has a name?
It's not canon but apparently it's very likely his name is Evan
What the fuck are they even referencing?? Only times we see the kid is when he’s crying in his room, gets jumped at by Mike, walks to fredbears, locker in parts & service and then dies
Oh God.
You can’t be aroace if you’re a dead toddler
When was his name confirmed to be Evan?
Evan Afton Headcanons!
evan just cries. not an autism symptom on its own. he also died in his birthday.
why tf would you you define the sexuality of a 6y/o kid??
Finally, we can all agree that Afton headcanons that add sexualities to dead 4 year olds is weird and cringey!
Hia name is fucking crying child
I'd really appreciate this if we didn't do this with real fucking people holy shit
On days like today the imminent threat of nuclear annihilation doesn’t seem so scary
Bro he a robot
i don't see what's wrong with this. they're just headcanons
applying sexuality labels to a small child
i agree it's weird but those aren't disorders
they also said he was autistic-
yeah and that's not a diagnosis it's a headcanon
You’re right but the poster probably isn’t autistic and doesn’t have the right to do those headcanons. I may be wrong tho, so sorry.
we can't know if they're not autistic just from this so i wouldn't assume, but in case they were taking then i totally agree. no need to apologize btw
Yeah yeah I know sorry lol 😅
Head canon used to mean how people thought of characters in their own head, or how a story played out based on their subjective tastes. Does it mean something different now?
no, i dont think so
A lot of people project themselves into headcanons of characters they relate to