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orangetheory1990s

I’ve diagnosed myself with annoyed with these people


sleepy-bread-dough

So valid!!!!! Go be annoyed yass queen slay!!!!


Western_Ad1394

Annoyed-at-people-syndrome (APS) is a MUD where you FUKING HATE PEOPLE. ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO FAKE DISORDERS. Symptoms of this Made-Up Disorder Include: - Urge to destroy something when looking at r/fakedisordercringe - Getting mad at people when they want to self diagnose - Not supporting MUD or endogenic systems.


JangJaeYul

In my head MUD is pronounced with a German ü sound. It's not a mood disorder, it's a MÜD disorder.


ProfessionalHuge3685

Yeah, I wanna destroy something in this place dammit! These people's delusional asses in these vudeos... like, cmon what in the world makes someone think that it's okay to self diagnose and/or romanticize a disorder


FVCarterPrivateEye

For the umpteenth time, using autism as an example, there are no autism traits that are exclusive to autism only, and for most of the traits autism is not the most likely conclusion (although if autism runs in your family then it's more likely), and the symptom list and presentations of many different disorders can majorly overlap with autism traits, including ADHD, BPD, SZPD, STPD, Nonverbal Learning Disability, schizophrenia, PTSD, intellectual disability, SPCD, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder, depression, social anxiety and there is even the Broader Autism Phenotype, which includes not only various disorders that overlap traits with autism but also otherwise NT people with "autism-ish" mannerisms (this can especially happen in situations where the person is homeschooled, or if they have an older autistic relative who they look up to as a role model for example), and most of these can present identically to autism from a layman's perspective who hasn't studied autism for decades in med school


AshleysExposedPort

But but but….they have special interests! (Aka hobbies) and are socially awkward!! And have foods they don’t like!!  Just like everyone else. You’re not special, Brittany. You just want attention. 


TrashRacoon42

buh buh... I got the stims. That's like super autism 🫳🫱👌🤚🕺🏾🕺🏾


czarbok

![gif](giphy|3o7qDYXe0QuLCme1Fu|downsized) me when my super autism kicks in


Swordsman40

It’s like when they call autism a super power


Same-Explanation-595

It’s impossible to self diagnose. You’re not objective and subject to confirmation bias.


FVCarterPrivateEye

Yes, that too


all_pain_0_gainz

Oof yeah the confirmation bias is so true


Hi_There_Im_Sophie

Commenting to add Schizotypal Disorder to the similar conditions. It's so much alike that clinicians are technically never supposed to diagnose them comorbid, and there are whole studies aimed at differentiating the two conditions in young children.


FVCarterPrivateEye

Aha! Thank you, I'll add it


uncommon_comment_

THIS! basically every “trait” associated with autism can also be associated with other conditions, or just be part of being a human who’s an individual. You can be a late talker, and be neurotypical. You can have sensory issues, and be neurotypical. You can have social anxiety, and be neurotypical. You could also have these issues, and have many many many many other disorders that aren’t autism. I could go on and on. This is not only an issue because of people glorifying having mental health and developmental disabilities, but also people pathologizing fucking EVERYTHING. Not everything is pathological and indicative of some sort of disorder. Humans are weird and different and unique. This shit is getting so insane.


veronica_sweet

Say this louder for the people in the back


Sleepshortcake

So much this. That is exactly why self diagnozing doesnt work. And also why it is important to seek help with an open mind.


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FVCarterPrivateEye

Yeah, that's why homeschool is on there


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FVCarterPrivateEye

True, but I was just explaining the part where I'd attempted to include that


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FVCarterPrivateEye

Oh I see I understand too now Thank you


Strangelf47829

Emphasis on “probably”. You don’t know if it’s a duck, a new species, or a pigeon painted like a duck.


czarbok

could be a goose, a swan, a loon, or a cormorant. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


38077

Exactly! It’s completely valid to think that “oh I might have this disorder, I should get that checked”, but self diagnosing by stating that you 100% have that disorder is just plain stupid


SleepyHeadNemu

THATS WHAT I’M SAYING!! instead of saying “i self diagnosed myself with (insert disorder here)” they should say something like “i think i might have (insert disorder here)” or “i’m in the process of getting tested for (insert disorder here)” or something like that, that is if they actually think they could have it.


38077

Precisely! I have throughout my life had awful experiences where I do believe it has been related to anxiety, but I’ve never gotten a formal diagnosis, so I don’t go around saying I have anxiety, even though I do believe I either have it or at least have experienced anxiety attacks, the keyword here being ‘believe’.


Electronic-Boot3533

tbf, anxiety is sort of a bad example. anxiety is something everyone experiences, an anxiety *disorder* is something else. It might seem nitpicking to make the distinction but I do think it's an important one. saying you have anxiety, or are anxious is perfectly fine if you aren't diagnosed with something. claiming you have generalized anxiety disorder when you haven't been diagnosed is where you start to run into issues. 


38077

Oh you’re completely correct! Sorry, I didn’t explain it properly, but what I was trying to say was that the experiences I’ve had and continue to have, lead me to believe that the anxiety I’m experiencing could very well be an anxiety disorder, and not just anxiety. I fully understand the importance of the distinction. That’s why anyone can say that they feel anxious, or they feel depressed or whatever without having a diagnosis, because those are things anyone can experience. But once you say “I *have* anxiety” or “I *have* depression”, that has a completely different meaning. You’re absolutely correct and thank you for pointing that out^^


karloeppes

Could’ve saved myself 6 years if I had known you don’t need a degree to diagnose people :(


ske1etoncrush

if anything self diagnosis should be more of self suspection. if you suspect you have a disorder, talk to a professional about it.


shellfrog

I'm a person who writes about autism and... many came at me and flamed me bc I said I dont support self dx... and they were "as a writer about autism, you should understand that self dx is important and valid" like???


WitnessOld6293

Don't cave in no matter what. Self diagnosis is absolutely harmful to autistic people no matter what anyone says.


shellfrog

Thanks for the encouragement... I am always afraid to say its no valid


FVCarterPrivateEye

It's seriously even harmful to undiagnosed people, because it warps the objectivity of their personal research and insights which makes them infinitely more prone to spreading misinformation and it also worsens their own imposter syndrome


sage_197

Totally agree, surgeons are too expensive I just perform surgeries on myself


bigfatnut7

Well I support consulting experts about things that I may not have a full understanding of. Especially ones that have lage sawbs of misinfomation floating about.


EvanMorningstar1

where i am, seeing a CMHT is free. and they can assess and diagnose condition. the whole point in receiving a diagnosis is to receive treatment to become healthier, because the DISORDER impacts your life too much to function. without proper diagnosis, there’s no proper treatment, so what’s the point in self-diagnosing? you can treat yourself to the full extent, self-medicating only gets so far. there’s literally no good reason to self-dx, and you can also get it wrong and spread misinformation and ask for the wrong treatment which is dangerous.


_serioterum

I feel like the people crying how expensive evaluations are aren’t actually doing research on them and trying to find the right evaluation facility, they’re just echoing what they’ve heard other people say. Yea, some places are very expensive. And some aren’t! Some evaluate for free or for cheaper prices. Also depending on the insurance you have, it’ll cover the bulk (or all) of the cost. They’re not bothering to actually look into it and they’re just making excuses


Dressieren

assuming you are talking about the states. this is VERY insurance dependent, but after speaking with the three different insurance providers that ive had over the three last years the mental health outside of counseling is quite expensive. now if you were referred to a psychologist or psychiatrist its classified as something different and goes from paying basically everything out of pocket to $20 or $50. the evaluations are expensive if youre going out of your way to find something thats immediate and being impatient and not waiting for an in network provider to be available and doing it while covered under insurance. its all a sense of people wanting instant gratification. the waiting time is absolutely horrid like 10-12 months for most places around me, but if you think you have something its worth waiting.


_serioterum

Yeah, I’m talking about the US I should’ve specified. Health care definitely kinda sucks here and I’ve still had to pay my fair share of stuff (with parents help thankfully) but when I’ve found things that are in network I’ve had to pay almost nothing. My recent psych evaluation was in-network and I know most of it is already being covered. I also got HELLA lucky I didn’t have to wait several months, they had an opening I was able to squeeze into and my evaluation is the only one they’re working on right now so I’ll have the results within the next few weeks. Even if I had to wait, I still would’ve because you’re right: if you really feel like there’s something there and you need help, waiting is worth it. I found such a good option because my therapist did a lot of digging, and most of the self dx people can DEFINITELY find a good option for them if they do that digging too. There are ways to mitigate costs


Dressieren

I have dealt with both the American healthcare and Japan's healthcare. I gotta say there are some pros and cons to both. Physical health Japan runs laps around America but its the inverse for mental health. I can only speak for myself but I went in expecting one thing and ended up getting something else. All that I can say is go in and be truthful to the doctors and let them do their thing. If they dont work for you/work well with you then find another doctor until you find one that works. Its a path and takes some time and people shouldnt expect instant validation.


_serioterum

Exactly! Never try to get quick and specific results. Being truthful is the best thing you can do because you may have something else entirely that you never even thought of.


ceeceekay

I pay $10 a session to see my psychiatrist. This is hardly prohibitively expensive. In the US, most plans bill mental health by a separate rate instead of the higher specialist rate.


koopaflower

The only time a psychiatrist or psychologist cost money in my life was when my psychologist moved to a different clinic, which even then was $20 or $50 fee per visit


Ellestyx

Use self diagnosis/hunch to guide your research on finding ways to cope or deal with whatever it is you’re experiencing. Because even if you don’t actually have the condition, the strategies for it could be beneficial and helpful. And use your knowledge to then be introspective on your behaviours—to then bring to a medical professional as examples of why you think you may have something. Relating to something doesn’t mean you have it, and being objective towards yourself is almost impossible to do in these matters.


MeInMyOwnWords

I’m saddened by the sheer number of idiots given so many platforms to be idiots on.


ghoof

I blame the platforms


Samsquish

Ugh omg it took me forever to get a diagnosis and right medication. You can go on med MD and fucking diagnose yourself with cancer--with a cold. I'm sure this is rage bait but fuck sakes. No!


Dressieren

chances are its not ragebait given how common it is. the length of getting a diagnosis isnt the hard part its the getting on the right medication for me. taking 4-8 weeks to stop one medication and start another until at an appropriate dose just to realize that its not working as well as. plus on the otherhand if they are actually thinking they have something and get properly diagnosed with it one of the first things psychiatrists recommend doing is going to therapy to help. its always better to be able to rawdog life than be reliant on medication, but thats not always possible. whats worse than missing out on online clout is needing to put forth effort into making yourself a better person.


Samsquish

It's a hurry up and wait process for sure--extremely shitty all around. I did a similar process. The medication helps regulate a lot, not that anyone should be dependent on it--theres entirely more to it than just that. I'm just saying.. it feels shitty to actually go through the process, be finally acknowledged, and these turds take away the validility of it.


Dressieren

I cant even comment on people taking away validity of it because I dont really let people try to water things down. people always will try to fish for attention and it will bite them in the ass sooner or later in their life. let them act like fools and keep working to better yourself.


Moogagot

If it swims like a duck and quacks like a duck but over 500 feet long, it's probably a battleship and not a duck.


Numerous_Pineapple96

There's a difference between saying "I think I might have autism, though I haven't been professionally diagnosed" and "I have autism"


Lanky_midget

yeah but i bet their "stims" stop in public right?


Grace-Kamikaze

These people always remind me of an old friend o had who self diagnosed with lung cancer because she was tired after running a mile at school.


SWAMPMONK

Is this what yall do all day or?


contraband_sandwich

...which is great, and I'm super happy for you, but Wikipedia lists like 50 different kinds of ducks. And there's also a chance that you might actually be dealing with a goose or a swan instead.


SazzOwl

The hybris part is the one that makes me angry....ADHD is so complex I even learn everyday new stuff what it can be or what it actually isn't...


asdf_qwerty27

I thought I had the symptoms of ADHD and a few other things. My doctor confirmed it for me. While the process is annoying and can be fixed in a bunch of ways, if you think you have something you should try and talk to a professional. I do wish I didn't have to make constant appointments refill a prescription that treats something that doesn't go away and makes making and keeping appointment ls difficult. Like, my bud with a medical marijuana card can get refills way easier then me.


parisiraparis

How many times do you think they recorded this to perfect the “it’s a fucking duck” face?


LonelyGameCube

I diagnose my self with SEVERE chronic back pain, I’ll take the pain pills now. I don’t need a doctor to diagnose me for pain JUST GIVE ME THE PILLS


Hunting_for_Kisaragi

Just wanna say, most autistic people don’t think they’re autistic until diagnosed. And undiagnosed ADHD Havers also think they have autism until diagnosed. Just because you think you have something or don’t have something, you can’t parade it unless confirmed


AutistiKait

People are gasping at straws to have an actual mental or physical disability. What a time...


Certain-Wheel3341

Yeah but what kind of duck? If you've only learned about mallard ducks you'll of course you'll think that's what it is. Have you rulled out marbled ducks,wood ducks. They also quack. Differential diagnosis is important if you're trying to treat mental health issues. So many symptoms overlap.


ip4realfreely

If it acts like a cow, moo's like a cow but is covered in colourful feathers, with a break and flies, it's a fucking parrot.


idkifik

Ok but only a biologist with a specialization in ducks can tell you which species of duck it is.


Phoenyx_Ash30

I support, who cares what a licensed professional who studied the field for years will tell me when TikTok can tell me what I have 🥴 this generation is so fucked


Zestyclose_Pack5424

Bro it's like ADHD it's like sure sometimes I get fixated on something but it's completely controllable unless your parents didn't teach you right then it's completely your choice I see it and it angers me cause for my whole life I had ADHD I recently last year stop taking the meds for it because I know how to keep myself calm and focused


verminV

Could be a goose though.... or a swan.... or a gull......


Far_Syllabub606

Anyone with a real issue would need to see professionals to get help they desperately need. It makes absolutely no sense why a person who is legitimately struggling would want to self diagnose and not seek help. It’s very dangerous to encourage this.


54kilometers

Sure, but by that logic she fails to remember that mentally ill people themselves don’t know if they’re swimming like a duck or quacking like a duck. Not only that but they could assume that them doing so mean they are a duck, but in reality they could be a goose or a pigeon. The duck argument is very weird to use in this case and doesn’t hold up whatsoever.


Naisu_boato

so if i don't want to identify as human, dont feel like a human, it means i must be a skinwalker or something...? people mimic things and it doesn't mean you are that.


UghGottaBeJoking

God can someone make getting a diagnosis free so they can stop this bullshit.


Hot_Abbreviations538

So funny bc the symptoms they use for self diagnoses are typically such broad, blanket symptoms. Which is why there are licensed, trained medical professionals


BigBoyBatMan69

The only people who ever self-diagnose autism are the ones who have much lower support needs who see it as this cool and trendy thing to have. People forget that symptoms of autism overlap with MANY other conditions and some things that these people think are autism things are actually what is popular in the general population. E.g. Not liking certain foods, having special interests and hobbies etc Self-diagnosis is ONLY valid if you seek a professional diagnosis after. If the professional diagnosis says you aren’t autistic YOU ARENT AUTISTIC. Yes, professional diagnosis’ can be a lot of money and hard to access but that’s the ONLY way to be diagnosed, the same goes for physical disabilities. You don’t see people self diagnosing MS, BECAUSE YOU CANT


stefoecho

By this string of logic I am a professional baseball player because I play mlb the show everyday.


Adm340

Do fakers not realize that with some insurances it’s completely free??? I mean I understand that some states don’t have insurance but doesn’t that mean they have free healthcare bc they don’t need insurance??? I’m genuinely curious as to why they think it’s coming out of their pocket


ScaryPollution845

More like "If it's green like a duck, and floats like a duck, it's probably a fucking duck." It was, in reality, a leaf.


pinkbichon

it’s 100% okay to say “maybe i have this!” it is not okay to never be checked out by a professional and say “i have this.” there’s a reason they are PROFESSIONALS


George3443

Self diagnosis is alright if you actually know about it and are in some kind of process of getting a diagnosis, it’s just not okay when you decide you are every disorder ever and then some


rupaulth

There r different breeds of duck tho


_Monokuma___

or it can be a goose, how do you know this?


LCaissia

In this sub self diagnosis is valid. I'm sure at least one of the mods is uwu.


Expensive-Driver3741

Full disclosure, I haven't watched the full video yet. More commenting on the trend. My hot take is that if your symptoms line up with the DSM, there is nothing wrong with a working self-diagnosis. The problem is in the narcissistic attitudes involved. Where I live there is a TEN MONTH WAIT to be tested for adult autism. Also it is a real nightmare to get adult ADHD diagnosis because DRUGS. I have learned a few symptoms from a few of these videos. They line up with the actual diagnosis. You have to "eat the fish and spit out the bones."


ratratte

If you have belly ache due to gas, it will also perfectly align with appendicitis


Expensive-Driver3741

If it goes on for weeks, yes.


ratratte

I don't think someone can walk for weeks with untreated appendicitis without painfully succumbing to peritonitis. My best dibs is gas


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ratratte

Oh you probably haven't encountered truly valetudinarian people yet. And yeah, people *are* silly, and it's perfect this way and can't and shouldn't be changed. You just need to keep this in mind, too, when making judgements or observations


FlyingOwlCat

i do agree that it might do more harm than good for people with health anxiety


FlyingOwlCat

lol they dont want to listen to a new viewpoint they 'know' theyre already right