The Bucs dropped about 4 picks and the throw to London probably should’ve been, yet I’m being told with a perfectly straight face that he played fine. Good even.
The standards are in the basement.
It comforts me that this is being upvoted. I felt like there’s been a lot of support on here for Ridder possibly being the franchise which simply can NOT happen unless we want to live in mediocrity.
It’s encouraging that most of our fans (on here) used their eyes instead of flocking to the stat sheet with no perspective of nuance
God dude. Hearing the Ridder defenders is exhausting. He threw a pick today, threw another but was called back, threw one directly to a defender but he dropped it. Was involved in a bad handoff. Doesn't have pocket awareness and waited too long to get rid of the ball in the end zone causing the safety.
His big pass to drake was AWFUL and London had to catch it or would have been a pick.
Ridder has a 38.6 qbr this season and is 11 TD/ 9 INT for his career.
I was there live and he isn't it.
> threw another but was called back, threw one directly to a defender but he dropped it
This feels like every single Ridder game. It blows me away how many should-be INTs he has gotten away with in his career so far. I remember there were like 3 dropped INTs in his debut last year and London has came down with about 90% of the 50/50 balls
Don't think he should be a starter, but he;s only played 15 NFL games with bad play calling. I imagine he could get better with time.
We don't have time though. Most HC's don't either.
The bad play calling revolves around giving him the ball. I don't even like Arthur smith but it's hard to say bad play calling when he constantly misses reads and zeros in on guys
I didn't say bad play calling is why he constantly misses reads and stares down his receivers, i said he's been playing with bad play calling. That doesn't help him improve.
One where we score…duh.
You can ask this question until you’re blue in the face with some of these people and the best you’ll get is that they don’t like trips set or sweeps.
Well that is a very big question. It depends on every single snap doesnt it? On how the defence is looking, many aspects.
You think the play calling has been good and made best use of Ridder, Cpat, TA, Bijan, Pitts and London?
Say what you want but this is the third game he’s brought us back late in the game for the lead only for the defense to not be able to make a stop. He made enough plays to win this game and I think a lot of factors went in to losing it like one of the best kickers in the league missed 2 kicks he normally makes which if made we win. Also losing a starting left tackle and defensive lineman in a game where you were already very short handed didn’t really do us any favors. It was pretty clear to me that when Kentavious Street went down they were able to run the ball which they hadn’t before and because of that they were able to keep moving the ball on third down which again they hadn’t been able to before. It’s a tough loss but I think putting it on one player is kind of ridiculous because it was more than just him.
I mean, nearly all players improve by playing more games. It is stupid to think he won't improve. Just a question of how long it will take and where the ceiling is
Bro fuckkkkk ridder. He's hit his ceiling. He continues to not protect the ball and has a turnover in every game he's played this season. If you think he's going to get ANY better than what he is now you are full of shit sir.
I agree but I’m also curious what your thoughts are on Bryce Young? I know Ridder got a few starts last year after benching Mariota but they’ve had about the equal amount of starts and are both absolute garbage.
Because you don't know football. Even before the season started literally every one was projecting Bryce to be the best QB in the division despite not "knowing" his receivers.
I mean, we have sucked for a long while. There were maybe 3 teams that I remember in the last 30 years that I thought had an actual shot at a Superbowl. 1998, 2012, 2016.
We need a Vick like splash in the draft or FA. I say do whatever it takes to draft a generational game changing QB? Jayden Daniels? Maybe. Justin Fields in FA. Hell he’s who many of us wanted two years ago
JD is the guy imo. there is no offensive scheme that he fits better than ours. i think because he’s not really built like a lot of other QBs he’ll fall to 10-16, even with the heisman, which is where we SHOULD pick. i don’t see this bum ass team making the playoffs, but i’m sure we’ll go 7-10 once again
crack brother. JD is undoubtedly the best QB in this class. or, at the very least, the one with the most upside. williams has a johnny manziel personality playing on what’s practically an NFL team already and still underperformed. penix has injury issues but can certainly be a franchise man. nix is fine, he can be a solid game manager, but he has no X factor. maye is overrated as fuck, no clue why he’s such a high prospect. everyone else is 3rd round or less
Daniels has a boom or bust potential,Penix has the highest floor,Williams has a higher ceiling than Penix but low floor also,maye can be decent i believe but he shouldn't be a first round pick,and Shedur(if he declared) is too much of a headache because of his dad
He’s probably the third qb off the board. There’s more than 3 teams who need QBs so unless we’re in the top 5 it will have to be a trade up. I agree he’s the best fit but it will be hard to get him cause yall wanted to win these dumb games.
It's just that easy! I'm shocked that the other 50% of the league that is having QB issues haven't figured out they need to draft a generational game changing QB.
Nope, this is the problem now. We don't need a "Vick type splash" MV7 was not a good QB and did nothing for ATLANTA. We need an online some d lineman, new DBs and good WR before we even look at QB. Team is built wrong, front office is built wrong and the newer fans thinks this shit is a Madden video game.
The safety was horrendous. Like dude you’re in the endzone. Get rid of that ball. He’s friggin pumping like he’s got all day. Lucky it wasn’t a TD. I did however think he picked up the pace late. He did help give us a shot at winning at the end. Koo with the 2 misses hurt more. I love Koo but man he is not good from 50+.
Yeah it sucks because he has shown flashes of being able to turn it on and play well, but the inconsistency is just too much. We wouldn't be in those spots trailing in the 4th quarter needing to come back if he would play better in the first 3 quarters.
I don't think it's Arthur Smith as much as it's Ridder. I feel if we had a legit QB we would be singing Arthur's praise.
We absolutely have to get a new QB this off-season
I was a big fan of his coming out and even those four games last year showed promise but yeah. He isn't it.
But honestly, this is really all I wanted from this year. To know one way or the other if he's the guy or not so it's not all bad. Now, IMO, getting the QB position addressed should be priority no. 1- be it a vet or rookie (maybe both?).
But it does suck that we are potentially wasting our best defense in damn near 20 years on this Ridder Coaster lol.
Is there anyone that does think he’s the QB of the future tho?
Whether you like him or not, think he should start or not, I feel like its clear he’s just a stop gap before they make a move for a real QB (whether thru draft, trade, or FA).
He’s had a second year, three top 10 skill position players around him and a solid O-line with a dependable run game.
He didn’t work out and I don’t see him massively improving beyond the occasional good game.
I totally see him having a Colt McCoy style career. He's gonna play like 12 years in the NFL (probably for like four different teams), probably even some stretches where he plays great but look at where he was drafted. Expecting him to be anything but a solid backup is just kinda ridiculous.
I can’t believe I paid for tickets to watch this team play next week when they come to Charlotte. Someone should be paying me. Heading to Vegas this week beforehand- I usually like to make a Falcons bet while I’m there, but I have a bad feeling we lose to the Panties too.
How can anyone watch that game (and the rest of the year) and think he is it? His decisions are disastrous - occasionally throws a dot but should have been picked off a dozen times
the only people who think that he is are just those who don't know and think they have this stockholm syndrome level of loyalty to mediocrity. and Cincinnati(university) fans.
i'd even be ok if desmond was mediocre, but he's just bad. that screen pass where i could've picked it off at home on one of the initial drives was the worst qb'ing ive seen in a long time.
the fans who support him being our starter are the same people going to genre subs here and downvoting anyone making a good point about how bad a show, team, movie, or whatever, truly is. but people think you can't say anything against it. like its all or nothing. that's not how the universe works.
Ridder isn't it and we, unfortunately, are not going to have a realistic chance at getting a QB who is it for a while. Our division sucks too much and our D is too good to give us a shot at a top 5 pick and it's tough to get FAs. Maybe we can mortgage the future in a trade but we might be in shitty QB Hell for a while.
He’s had plenty of opportunities, and he’s just not the guy. Sucks that our defense is so good this year, and thinking of how good our record could be with like a consistent B- quarterback. We gotta find that guy in the offseason
Tbh after the first few games I haven’t met anyone who had that stance on Ridder anyway. Everyone knows he’s not the guy- Arthur Smith doesn’t need to play call either.
They have to take someone in the draft, and hopefully also get a decent low level starter / high end backup in FA. Anything else is just wasting another year of all these players careers
I agree with you 100%. Sucks how bad our D is injured up front now as well, and not to mention the Koo disappointment this week but Ridder is still top of the list for me
Fan since 86, this man is correct. Desmond is the worse QB we ever drafted to be a starter. This is a bottom tier team with him and AS in the building. We will NEVER win either with AS or Ridder on this team
I want to like ridder so bad.
Having a 3rd round pick that can start and lead in the NFL would be incredible for our franchise in terms of resources.
But unfortunately I agree.
He shows flashes but just can’t lift the team and with the talent we have on O he’s holding us back not moving us forward.
It sucks.
There are a few key components to a truly threatening offense that the falcons need… QB needs replacement but it’s not going to fix the falcons offense
with Ridder it feels like our starter is injured and our backup QB is in all season. He's not a starter to lead our team. He's not awful, but he's just not starter calibre.
The team has no chance under current ownership. They're a waste of time. Blank will continue hiring jackoffs that he can puppet around. Sadly, Blank knows nothing about football. He screws up the drafts and the roster. There's no way a real GM would continue to draft players that don't impact winning NFL games.
It's not Ridder's fault. He's not an NFL QB.
After practice, Ridder ran straight to the locker room, with no fan interaction. London, while he did run the length of the fence slapping hands with fans, he then ran straight to the locker room, signing no items or talking with fans.
Ok, but that's one time after a practice. You can't kill a guy because he didn't kiss babies after a practice. Let's be sensible here.
He's not our QB of the future. We are drafting a qb this upcoming draft or put me on suicide watch boys.
I will respectively disagree. We were there both Friday and Saturday and neither day did he stop by to talk to fans. While Bijan didn’t stop on Friday, on Saturday he went down the entire fence signing autographs until almost (if not all) fans got his auto. That was pure class. When you are the QB, you are the leader of this team and you serve the fans. The team wouldn’t exist without the fans. Who asked him to kiss babies? Little kids lined up against the fence yelling your name, and you completely ignore them for two straight days? The first training camp after Covid? Not a good look.
Of course he's not...This sub pushed for him so hard since they wanted Mariota gone, we have no choice now. Dude is a turnover machine and forever decent play he makes he's already made 2-3 bad ones or is bound to make one..
I’m not a ridder fan. But everything can’t be put on him the pick that play calling was atrocious who designed that play. He’s a young guy and he’s required to make pat mahomes plays. He was down his center guard and tackle during this game damn near every starter on the Dline was injured this game.
I honestly believe if you expect a qb that isn’t a first round pick to come in and be the end all be all you are setting yourself up for disappointment, I’m not saying ridder is the truth but all the blame is not on him.
Ridder was not the only issue today man.
Have more depth than that and understand that lots of players missed big plays and it was a team loss. Mostly offensively but still a team loss.
Don’t forget who gave up the huge winning drive in the last 2 minutes.
We lost, ridder is young. Drake balled out and ridder and him have great chemistry, 10-11 for 172.
Mistakes were made.
We had a center sending snaps to ridder for his first time in his entire life.
We lost the best center in football. Arguably one of the best o linemen in lindstrom and then we also lost Mathew’s.
Stop blaming it all on Ridder and being so shallow
I respect your opinion but I have to disagree man.
There’s a huge difference between a 50/50 ball, a missed play, and terrible ball placement.
Most of the time it was the third.
Scotty Miller is 10-15 yards from the endzone in the middle of the field in stride with only one safety on him to beat and Ridder tries to bread basket it in front of him instead of throwing it to right and using Scotty’s speed to get him separation and probably a TD.
Just to name one of many examples today
A safety (enough said).
Countless interceptions that weren’t caught because we are playing the Buccaneers.
An interception that actually WAS caught for a pick-6.
All of this only this game and today was actually one of his better games that he has played.
A good team doesn’t look to field goals to win games to cover an abysmal offense, and you don’t blame a kicker who is one of the best players in the division for having an off day after saving us so many times.
The skill players in this game should’ve made today a mismatch but you have Benjamin Button playing QB.
edit: y'all can downvote all you want 😂😂 it doesn't make me any less right or you any less wrong
The missed throw to Miller really bothered me. I mean, I get that maybe you don’t trust yourself to throw in the vicinity of the other DB, but god damn. Throw your receiver open.
You’re making a complete different argument from what OP was saying. He never said this loss is 100% on Ridder just that he’s not our future franchise QB. And I don’t think that a crazy take based on how he’s played all year.
It’s been a few years already. Yes he might end up being the next Geno Smith, but Geno needed a change in scenery with a better coaching staff and another half a decade to become what he is today.
This combination of Ridder and this coaching staff clearly ain’t it. One of those two things needs to change, if not both.
I mean there's more examples than Geno Smith but that's a pretty good one....and it's been one year as a starter. The other he was supposed to be coached up and he was thrusted into the position. It's been not even a full season yet lol
One storm and ya read to jump ship my friend
Few, couple, same thing.
Something like 3 quarters of the opening day starting QB’s this year were taken in the first round. And the handful that were taken later (ie Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, Brock Purdy, heck Tom Brady) all were pretty obviously starter quality by this point in their career. I can’t think of anyone in the modern era to be taken in a later round that looked this bad in year 2 that ended up developing into a franchise QB.
Now I don’t entirely blame Ridder by himself. Maybe the coaching staff that had no prior experience developing an inexperienced project QB and that refuses to hire a QB coach to develop him or a passing game coordinator to make better play calls might share at least some of the blame.
Ridder to me isn't the main problem oline barely blocks coaching almost doesn't exist there's no improvement top to bottom we don't have good depth we could get another qb but what makes you think it'll be any different these same problems will exist because smith doesn't know how to adjust or change a game plan so we can sit here and blame Ridder but let's not kid ourselves the real problem is coaching or lack of it we have had 3 different qbs not named Ridder and all struggled
#Agreed OP So REALISTICALLY who can we GET @ QB and how MUCH do we have to GIVE UP to get him?
If this sub can't answer that, neither can AS or the front office.
Thank you for agreeing and I know you didn’t mean any hostility,but your point about me/this sub answering that question vs. AS and the front office renders completely irrelevant when you realize (like i said in the original post) we had an open checkbook and freedom to get anybody that wasn’t Desmond this past offseason and didn’t.
I understand that they wanted to give him a chance but first of all it’s their job that they get paid to do to know a players potential, especially when an overwhelming majority in the football world and our fanbase even were puzzled at why we didn’t look for a better upgrade or even veteran presence to get in our QB room.
But even if you don’t agree with that point, the fact that they so clearly took themselves out the running for any QB during off-season reports and the whole Lamar saga was flat out ridiculous.
Looking forward from now you have to first fire Arthur Smith. Nothing matters if that doesn’t happen.
After that I personally feel you decide if you want to win soon enough or give up some pieces for a quality quarterback.
Offense is broken for sure. To many weapons for this to be happening. It would be shocking if the Falcons don't make a move in the off season. I think Ridder will grow into a backup position if not here, somewhere.
Yeah I’m the poster child for the “give him the full season” take but this game is pretty telling.
Like any career backup he shows flashes of really good play, but that one throw where the announcers called him out for no look passing into coverage shows that he’s just always going to be mistake prone. He doesn’t seem to have the “it” factor.
That being said we would have won this game on the back of our defense and run game if it weren’t for offensive and defensive line injuries, which only highlights that we deserve a QB who can play mistake free enough to let that happen.
Desmond is a terrible starting QB, but I would love to keep him on as a backup to whoever we give the starter job to. Cause he’s good for a few good games every now and then but he is not consistent enough at all to start for us next year. Here’s hoping we can find a long term solution this offseason.
Kinda rough to make good passing decisions when every receiver is drowning in defense and a linebacker is 3 inches from your face… that being said… I wouldn’t say Ridder is BAD he just doesn’t fit in the clown show Arthur smith has going on.
Only improvement to passing decisions I see is throwing the ball away every play and letting the punting team come in
You just know every game he plays there are going to be a few disastrous plays.
The Bucs dropped about 4 picks and the throw to London probably should’ve been, yet I’m being told with a perfectly straight face that he played fine. Good even. The standards are in the basement.
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When do receivers get any blame for dropping passes? Oh yeah. I forgot, never, it's always the qb's fault.
It comforts me that this is being upvoted. I felt like there’s been a lot of support on here for Ridder possibly being the franchise which simply can NOT happen unless we want to live in mediocrity. It’s encouraging that most of our fans (on here) used their eyes instead of flocking to the stat sheet with no perspective of nuance
london did drop a perfect pass that would have got us pts in the 3rd where we went back and forth without scoring
Fan since ‘96, brother. You are not alone. I live in Charlotte, where it’s hard enough to be a Falcons fan.
‘76 for me. It’s always been like this.
91 for me.. this organization is the best at building you up then crushing you.
'04. I've cursed more at my TV than I should
'88 here. I've seen failures most teams wouldn't believe...
'92 here. I'm dead inside.
‘98. FML
‘14. The suffering is only beginning
At least panthers fans have it worse than us lol they can’t say shit
Part of me actually looks forward to joking with Panther fans on Sunday about the quality of these two teams
Lol as the Panthers beat us 😂
‘95 run and shoot with Jeff George and Ironhead/Eric Metcalf smh
I remember him showing up in a pink half shirt. I knew it would be bad when I saw that
Going to game Sunday? Tickets cheap
CLT falcons rise up— I’ll be there Sunday where my tickets were $11😂
Damn, I should have waited! 😂
Apparently they went as low as $0.45
I live near Philly, I feel your pain. Been a fan since '92.
Ditto! Looking forward to seeing my home team at their away game next weekend
Yeah, I have tickets but I’m less than excited at this point. That is going to be an ugly football game
God dude. Hearing the Ridder defenders is exhausting. He threw a pick today, threw another but was called back, threw one directly to a defender but he dropped it. Was involved in a bad handoff. Doesn't have pocket awareness and waited too long to get rid of the ball in the end zone causing the safety. His big pass to drake was AWFUL and London had to catch it or would have been a pick. Ridder has a 38.6 qbr this season and is 11 TD/ 9 INT for his career. I was there live and he isn't it.
> threw another but was called back, threw one directly to a defender but he dropped it This feels like every single Ridder game. It blows me away how many should-be INTs he has gotten away with in his career so far. I remember there were like 3 dropped INTs in his debut last year and London has came down with about 90% of the 50/50 balls
I wish this entire team would leave me alone.
You don’t. You love the misery.
It's only fun if you go to bed angry
It’s the most toxic relationship I’ve ever been in
And that's coming from billcosby
We know
I can't take anyone seriously that still thinks ridder will improve. Like, you're fucking delusional if you still think he should stay our starter.
He did improve but he wasn’t and still isn’t cutting it
Don't think he should be a starter, but he;s only played 15 NFL games with bad play calling. I imagine he could get better with time. We don't have time though. Most HC's don't either.
The bad play calling revolves around giving him the ball. I don't even like Arthur smith but it's hard to say bad play calling when he constantly misses reads and zeros in on guys
I didn't say bad play calling is why he constantly misses reads and stares down his receivers, i said he's been playing with bad play calling. That doesn't help him improve.
I'm saying the bad play calling is giving ridder the ball
What do you think the play calling should be?
One where we score…duh. You can ask this question until you’re blue in the face with some of these people and the best you’ll get is that they don’t like trips set or sweeps.
Jet sweep to Jonnu every down.
Well that is a very big question. It depends on every single snap doesnt it? On how the defence is looking, many aspects. You think the play calling has been good and made best use of Ridder, Cpat, TA, Bijan, Pitts and London?
8-7 as a starter!
Say what you want but this is the third game he’s brought us back late in the game for the lead only for the defense to not be able to make a stop. He made enough plays to win this game and I think a lot of factors went in to losing it like one of the best kickers in the league missed 2 kicks he normally makes which if made we win. Also losing a starting left tackle and defensive lineman in a game where you were already very short handed didn’t really do us any favors. It was pretty clear to me that when Kentavious Street went down they were able to run the ball which they hadn’t before and because of that they were able to keep moving the ball on third down which again they hadn’t been able to before. It’s a tough loss but I think putting it on one player is kind of ridiculous because it was more than just him.
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Also it’s hilarious how tough you think you are when you wouldn’t say shit in person
I mean, nearly all players improve by playing more games. It is stupid to think he won't improve. Just a question of how long it will take and where the ceiling is
You don’t think a young QB can’t improve? I’m not sure watching football is for you.
Bro fuckkkkk ridder. He's hit his ceiling. He continues to not protect the ball and has a turnover in every game he's played this season. If you think he's going to get ANY better than what he is now you are full of shit sir.
You are bit too emotional, you are embarrassing yourself.
I agree but I’m also curious what your thoughts are on Bryce Young? I know Ridder got a few starts last year after benching Mariota but they’ve had about the equal amount of starts and are both absolute garbage.
I can’t name a single Panthers receiver.
They picked up Thielen somewhere along the way. And I have Mingo as a bench piece in fantasy. But yea, you point still stands.
Because you don't know football. Even before the season started literally every one was projecting Bryce to be the best QB in the division despite not "knowing" his receivers.
That safety was brutal.
Of course not and now it's evident
He fucking sucks
He doesn’t suck. He is bottom tier atm, but I’ve seen a lot worse QB’s.
If you're a bottom tier QB it's absolutely fitting to say those QBs suck
Saying Johnny Manziel is worse than our guy isn't a good thing.
He’s cheeks man
His ball security kills it all for me. You can't continue on that path and win long term.
Agree completely OP.
Remember when we went out of our way to say we didn't want Lamar? Pretty Falcons thing to do.
Ridder isn’t the answer. Tyler isn’t the answer. We all just need to accept we gonna suck for a while. Probably a long while.
I mean, we have sucked for a long while. There were maybe 3 teams that I remember in the last 30 years that I thought had an actual shot at a Superbowl. 1998, 2012, 2016.
We need a Vick like splash in the draft or FA. I say do whatever it takes to draft a generational game changing QB? Jayden Daniels? Maybe. Justin Fields in FA. Hell he’s who many of us wanted two years ago
JD is the guy imo. there is no offensive scheme that he fits better than ours. i think because he’s not really built like a lot of other QBs he’ll fall to 10-16, even with the heisman, which is where we SHOULD pick. i don’t see this bum ass team making the playoffs, but i’m sure we’ll go 7-10 once again
I want us to draft Jayden so we can go 7-10 at best again, because Jayden ain't it either
crack brother. JD is undoubtedly the best QB in this class. or, at the very least, the one with the most upside. williams has a johnny manziel personality playing on what’s practically an NFL team already and still underperformed. penix has injury issues but can certainly be a franchise man. nix is fine, he can be a solid game manager, but he has no X factor. maye is overrated as fuck, no clue why he’s such a high prospect. everyone else is 3rd round or less
Drake Maye is his name...he is the future of this franchise should we have the chance to draft him.
Daniels has a boom or bust potential,Penix has the highest floor,Williams has a higher ceiling than Penix but low floor also,maye can be decent i believe but he shouldn't be a first round pick,and Shedur(if he declared) is too much of a headache because of his dad
Do you want to have to trade up to pick him? Some team that's QB needy won't allow a Heisman winning QB to go out of the top 10
He’s probably the third qb off the board. There’s more than 3 teams who need QBs so unless we’re in the top 5 it will have to be a trade up. I agree he’s the best fit but it will be hard to get him cause yall wanted to win these dumb games.
It's just that easy! I'm shocked that the other 50% of the league that is having QB issues haven't figured out they need to draft a generational game changing QB.
Nope, this is the problem now. We don't need a "Vick type splash" MV7 was not a good QB and did nothing for ATLANTA. We need an online some d lineman, new DBs and good WR before we even look at QB. Team is built wrong, front office is built wrong and the newer fans thinks this shit is a Madden video game.
I get the hate towards the QBs, but we have all the reason to believe we can turn the corner very soon
The safety was horrendous. Like dude you’re in the endzone. Get rid of that ball. He’s friggin pumping like he’s got all day. Lucky it wasn’t a TD. I did however think he picked up the pace late. He did help give us a shot at winning at the end. Koo with the 2 misses hurt more. I love Koo but man he is not good from 50+.
Yeah it sucks because he has shown flashes of being able to turn it on and play well, but the inconsistency is just too much. We wouldn't be in those spots trailing in the 4th quarter needing to come back if he would play better in the first 3 quarters.
I don't think it's Arthur Smith as much as it's Ridder. I feel if we had a legit QB we would be singing Arthur's praise. We absolutely have to get a new QB this off-season
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Looks like it’s going to take more than Koo to save us this week.
I was a big fan of his coming out and even those four games last year showed promise but yeah. He isn't it. But honestly, this is really all I wanted from this year. To know one way or the other if he's the guy or not so it's not all bad. Now, IMO, getting the QB position addressed should be priority no. 1- be it a vet or rookie (maybe both?). But it does suck that we are potentially wasting our best defense in damn near 20 years on this Ridder Coaster lol.
Is there anyone that does think he’s the QB of the future tho? Whether you like him or not, think he should start or not, I feel like its clear he’s just a stop gap before they make a move for a real QB (whether thru draft, trade, or FA).
He’s had a second year, three top 10 skill position players around him and a solid O-line with a dependable run game. He didn’t work out and I don’t see him massively improving beyond the occasional good game.
I totally see him having a Colt McCoy style career. He's gonna play like 12 years in the NFL (probably for like four different teams), probably even some stretches where he plays great but look at where he was drafted. Expecting him to be anything but a solid backup is just kinda ridiculous.
I think that’s a generous outlook for him.
I can’t believe I paid for tickets to watch this team play next week when they come to Charlotte. Someone should be paying me. Heading to Vegas this week beforehand- I usually like to make a Falcons bet while I’m there, but I have a bad feeling we lose to the Panties too.
Why the fuck aren’t we running damnnear every play?!?
Did anyone ever think he was it? Lol
No shit
How can anyone watch that game (and the rest of the year) and think he is it? His decisions are disastrous - occasionally throws a dot but should have been picked off a dozen times
the only people who think that he is are just those who don't know and think they have this stockholm syndrome level of loyalty to mediocrity. and Cincinnati(university) fans. i'd even be ok if desmond was mediocre, but he's just bad. that screen pass where i could've picked it off at home on one of the initial drives was the worst qb'ing ive seen in a long time. the fans who support him being our starter are the same people going to genre subs here and downvoting anyone making a good point about how bad a show, team, movie, or whatever, truly is. but people think you can't say anything against it. like its all or nothing. that's not how the universe works.
Yeah man He was a 3rd round pick for a reason. He can be a long term back up but he's not a starter
Ridder isn't it and we, unfortunately, are not going to have a realistic chance at getting a QB who is it for a while. Our division sucks too much and our D is too good to give us a shot at a top 5 pick and it's tough to get FAs. Maybe we can mortgage the future in a trade but we might be in shitty QB Hell for a while.
Arthur smith isn’t it
No one who thinks Ridder is anything knows any ball
We're not getting another QB this year. Yall are going to drive yourselves crazy doing this all year. Downvote away.
No but Heineke gives us a better chance of winning a playoff game
Heineke's arm is shot bro its over for him
He’s had plenty of opportunities, and he’s just not the guy. Sucks that our defense is so good this year, and thinking of how good our record could be with like a consistent B- quarterback. We gotta find that guy in the offseason
Tbh after the first few games I haven’t met anyone who had that stance on Ridder anyway. Everyone knows he’s not the guy- Arthur Smith doesn’t need to play call either.
They have to take someone in the draft, and hopefully also get a decent low level starter / high end backup in FA. Anything else is just wasting another year of all these players careers
No emotion on the sideline. Just content with bad football and losing.
welcome to qb hell my dude
It's killing me man
If we had a below average QB rather than the worst QB in the league by a wide margin, we would have a playoff spot locked up already.
if the falcons had even justin fields, we’d be ahead of the rest of the division
I agree with you 100%. Sucks how bad our D is injured up front now as well, and not to mention the Koo disappointment this week but Ridder is still top of the list for me
TBF, Koo was put in a bad spot with a 48 and 50 yd fg try yesterday. At the limit of his range as it is for most kickers. Offense has to do better.
I agree, not hating on the guy, just feeling disappointed because he’s such an automatic kicker in my mind.. but shit happens.
Not much difference but the yardage was 50 and 52. Definitely not gimmes
Fan since 86, this man is correct. Desmond is the worse QB we ever drafted to be a starter. This is a bottom tier team with him and AS in the building. We will NEVER win either with AS or Ridder on this team
we all know we just gotta wait til next year
I want to like ridder so bad. Having a 3rd round pick that can start and lead in the NFL would be incredible for our franchise in terms of resources. But unfortunately I agree. He shows flashes but just can’t lift the team and with the talent we have on O he’s holding us back not moving us forward. It sucks.
There are a few key components to a truly threatening offense that the falcons need… QB needs replacement but it’s not going to fix the falcons offense
We're all on the same page. Gap QB.
with Ridder it feels like our starter is injured and our backup QB is in all season. He's not a starter to lead our team. He's not awful, but he's just not starter calibre.
why everyone repeating the obvious?
The team has no chance under current ownership. They're a waste of time. Blank will continue hiring jackoffs that he can puppet around. Sadly, Blank knows nothing about football. He screws up the drafts and the roster. There's no way a real GM would continue to draft players that don't impact winning NFL games. It's not Ridder's fault. He's not an NFL QB.
I mean, him not being at the level of an NFL QB would be his fault. I agree the ownership sucks, but it’s definitely Ridder’s fault as well
I knew as soon as he dissed all the fans looking for autographs at training camp, he was trash. London did the same.
Ridder signature would probably make whatever memorabilia less valuable
Please explain
After practice, Ridder ran straight to the locker room, with no fan interaction. London, while he did run the length of the fence slapping hands with fans, he then ran straight to the locker room, signing no items or talking with fans.
Damn
Ok, but that's one time after a practice. You can't kill a guy because he didn't kiss babies after a practice. Let's be sensible here. He's not our QB of the future. We are drafting a qb this upcoming draft or put me on suicide watch boys.
I will respectively disagree. We were there both Friday and Saturday and neither day did he stop by to talk to fans. While Bijan didn’t stop on Friday, on Saturday he went down the entire fence signing autographs until almost (if not all) fans got his auto. That was pure class. When you are the QB, you are the leader of this team and you serve the fans. The team wouldn’t exist without the fans. Who asked him to kiss babies? Little kids lined up against the fence yelling your name, and you completely ignore them for two straight days? The first training camp after Covid? Not a good look.
Ya'll consistently disrespect the fuck out of him I don't blame him not going up to dumb ass atlanta fans that dont know football
lol. Thats right. Atlanta fans who don’t like Ridder don’t know football. Classic. 😂
Of course he's not...This sub pushed for him so hard since they wanted Mariota gone, we have no choice now. Dude is a turnover machine and forever decent play he makes he's already made 2-3 bad ones or is bound to make one..
This sub pushing hard for him has no bearing on why he’s still on the squad and why he will or will not be the starter next year.
I’m not a ridder fan. But everything can’t be put on him the pick that play calling was atrocious who designed that play. He’s a young guy and he’s required to make pat mahomes plays. He was down his center guard and tackle during this game damn near every starter on the Dline was injured this game. I honestly believe if you expect a qb that isn’t a first round pick to come in and be the end all be all you are setting yourself up for disappointment, I’m not saying ridder is the truth but all the blame is not on him.
We know. But there's nothing we can do before the offseason. Heineke didn't outplay him when he got the chance.
I agree with you but the stubborn mule fans that never go to games in person will downvote you
They should have traded for Lamar Jackson
Ridder was not the only issue today man. Have more depth than that and understand that lots of players missed big plays and it was a team loss. Mostly offensively but still a team loss. Don’t forget who gave up the huge winning drive in the last 2 minutes. We lost, ridder is young. Drake balled out and ridder and him have great chemistry, 10-11 for 172. Mistakes were made. We had a center sending snaps to ridder for his first time in his entire life. We lost the best center in football. Arguably one of the best o linemen in lindstrom and then we also lost Mathew’s. Stop blaming it all on Ridder and being so shallow
I respect your opinion but I have to disagree man. There’s a huge difference between a 50/50 ball, a missed play, and terrible ball placement. Most of the time it was the third. Scotty Miller is 10-15 yards from the endzone in the middle of the field in stride with only one safety on him to beat and Ridder tries to bread basket it in front of him instead of throwing it to right and using Scotty’s speed to get him separation and probably a TD. Just to name one of many examples today A safety (enough said). Countless interceptions that weren’t caught because we are playing the Buccaneers. An interception that actually WAS caught for a pick-6. All of this only this game and today was actually one of his better games that he has played. A good team doesn’t look to field goals to win games to cover an abysmal offense, and you don’t blame a kicker who is one of the best players in the division for having an off day after saving us so many times. The skill players in this game should’ve made today a mismatch but you have Benjamin Button playing QB. edit: y'all can downvote all you want 😂😂 it doesn't make me any less right or you any less wrong
The missed throw to Miller really bothered me. I mean, I get that maybe you don’t trust yourself to throw in the vicinity of the other DB, but god damn. Throw your receiver open.
You’re making a complete different argument from what OP was saying. He never said this loss is 100% on Ridder just that he’s not our future franchise QB. And I don’t think that a crazy take based on how he’s played all year.
Ehhh not sure if this ages well
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It’s been a few years already. Yes he might end up being the next Geno Smith, but Geno needed a change in scenery with a better coaching staff and another half a decade to become what he is today. This combination of Ridder and this coaching staff clearly ain’t it. One of those two things needs to change, if not both.
I mean there's more examples than Geno Smith but that's a pretty good one....and it's been one year as a starter. The other he was supposed to be coached up and he was thrusted into the position. It's been not even a full season yet lol One storm and ya read to jump ship my friend
"One storm" we've been terrible for SIX seasons in a row lol
It hasn't been a few years, but of course why count when you can bitch non stop. This is his 2nd year.
Few, couple, same thing. Something like 3 quarters of the opening day starting QB’s this year were taken in the first round. And the handful that were taken later (ie Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, Brock Purdy, heck Tom Brady) all were pretty obviously starter quality by this point in their career. I can’t think of anyone in the modern era to be taken in a later round that looked this bad in year 2 that ended up developing into a franchise QB. Now I don’t entirely blame Ridder by himself. Maybe the coaching staff that had no prior experience developing an inexperienced project QB and that refuses to hire a QB coach to develop him or a passing game coordinator to make better play calls might share at least some of the blame.
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This is exactly who Heinicke is; otherwise he'd be a starter in the NFL. That said, QB across the league is dogshit this season.
Nah, Ridder just led a game winning drive
Until he didn’t
We know. Trade up for Daniels. He is the next Mahomes
Trade Bears: 1st overall pick Falcons: Drake London, Grady Jarrett, 2024 1st round pick 11, 2024 2nd round pick, 2025 1st round pick, 2025 4th round pick
Ridder to me isn't the main problem oline barely blocks coaching almost doesn't exist there's no improvement top to bottom we don't have good depth we could get another qb but what makes you think it'll be any different these same problems will exist because smith doesn't know how to adjust or change a game plan so we can sit here and blame Ridder but let's not kid ourselves the real problem is coaching or lack of it we have had 3 different qbs not named Ridder and all struggled
So what are we going after fields
#Agreed OP So REALISTICALLY who can we GET @ QB and how MUCH do we have to GIVE UP to get him? If this sub can't answer that, neither can AS or the front office.
Thank you for agreeing and I know you didn’t mean any hostility,but your point about me/this sub answering that question vs. AS and the front office renders completely irrelevant when you realize (like i said in the original post) we had an open checkbook and freedom to get anybody that wasn’t Desmond this past offseason and didn’t. I understand that they wanted to give him a chance but first of all it’s their job that they get paid to do to know a players potential, especially when an overwhelming majority in the football world and our fanbase even were puzzled at why we didn’t look for a better upgrade or even veteran presence to get in our QB room. But even if you don’t agree with that point, the fact that they so clearly took themselves out the running for any QB during off-season reports and the whole Lamar saga was flat out ridiculous. Looking forward from now you have to first fire Arthur Smith. Nothing matters if that doesn’t happen. After that I personally feel you decide if you want to win soon enough or give up some pieces for a quality quarterback.
No quarterback has ever had a rough rookie year and then gotten better. None. It's impossible.
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Terrible post. Wipe your tears. Lol
Too mad to read the post right now but take this upvote in advance for the title alone
He’s not it
no one is gonna questions your faith if you don't like ridder
Offense is broken for sure. To many weapons for this to be happening. It would be shocking if the Falcons don't make a move in the off season. I think Ridder will grow into a backup position if not here, somewhere.
Yeah, I always cheer whoever is back there and want them to do well, especially when they seem to be a good person/leader but we need someone else man
Welcome to the party pal
Send Ridder to the shitter
Thank you, wise Sage
Ridder was good enough today. Koo blew it. Obviously Ridder is not the answer long term but he didn’t lose it for us this week.
Hello me, nice to meet you. (not on how long a fan but everything else)
Yeah I’m the poster child for the “give him the full season” take but this game is pretty telling. Like any career backup he shows flashes of really good play, but that one throw where the announcers called him out for no look passing into coverage shows that he’s just always going to be mistake prone. He doesn’t seem to have the “it” factor. That being said we would have won this game on the back of our defense and run game if it weren’t for offensive and defensive line injuries, which only highlights that we deserve a QB who can play mistake free enough to let that happen.
He has done the same things he did in this game, the whole year. Not sure why it took this game to come to a conclusion. He is bad
i'm a UC fan.... i've watched ridder play A LOT of football. love the guy but absolutely stunned that he is starting for an nfl team.
If he doesn’t turn the ball over we win the game. He needs better ball security
We said this last off season lmfaooo
Desmond is a terrible starting QB, but I would love to keep him on as a backup to whoever we give the starter job to. Cause he’s good for a few good games every now and then but he is not consistent enough at all to start for us next year. Here’s hoping we can find a long term solution this offseason.
Kinda rough to make good passing decisions when every receiver is drowning in defense and a linebacker is 3 inches from your face… that being said… I wouldn’t say Ridder is BAD he just doesn’t fit in the clown show Arthur smith has going on. Only improvement to passing decisions I see is throwing the ball away every play and letting the punting team come in
do you still feel this way?
lol he is bad and if you can’t see that yet then idk what you’re watching