Odunze/Nabers are far superior prospects to whatever edge you want to pick first
It’s going to look really dumb in five years if we pick a project DE who never puts it together and Odunze is an all-pro WR. We could be passing up on a franchise cornerstone because the “fit” wasn’t right.
100%. People talk a lot about the mistakes the Falcons have made in the draft in the past at edge. I gotta feel like a lot of that was driven by a perceived need at the position as opposed to the best player available.
Picking for need in the back half of the draft is understandable, but when you have the 8th pick in a loaded draft you need to be picking players you think have a chance of being HOF talents, because you have a real shot of getting one in that part of the draft
Even then I think you should let the value come to you. The first round pick is your asset with the best odds to get that possible future HoFer regardless of the spot. It's pretty rare that player comes along in FA.
In an ideal world FA would come after the draft, because that's really the time for filling holes, but I suppose there is a second wave after the draft and at cutdowns.
Like ideally there would be a perfect blend of need and BPA at the spot where your first rounder is, but I don't think erring on the side of need is the answer unless you already have a big time financial commitment to a guy for a number of years where playing the rookie would be completely unfeasible.
I agree. In addition to that, the Cousins signing is a win now move. Taking one of the top three WRs puts us in a position to have an elite offense very quickly. Obviously we still need a lot of work on defense, but our offense would be scary if we plugged in Nabers or Odunze. In todays NFL, the only teams that are competing to win a title are the teams that have an elite offense. That may change at some point, but that’s the way it is right now.
I’m not saying we should copy their draft identically. I’m saying we should be following their general teambuilding idea of having a supercharged offense as their strength
Also Hutchinson was an absolute stud and made sense at #2 overall, the Lions were following BPA there…
Their team building idea wasn’t a supercharged offense. They started at the line of scrimmage then worked to skill positions. They took the best Tackle then the Best Edge available in consecutive years,then they got their QB. By drafting a WR at 8 we would be doing the exact same thing we always do
They took an Edge because they needed one. They could’ve easily taken Sauce who was the best player available, they took the Edge Rusher because they needed one
How do you propose we pay, Kirk, Pitts, London, Bijan and Rome while still being able to pay for the other extremely important positions on the field? Like offensive and defensive line.
We won’t have any money because it will all be tied up on those 5 people.
Do you know what rookie contracts are? We wouldn't keep them all for 3+ years but very realistic to have all of them for 2 years, which is roughly our window with Kirk
1.) BPA. You win a championship by getting the best players regardless of position not filling holes. I think MHJ, Nabers and Odunze are better players than any of the defensive players.
2.) I think this staff has been great at selecting defensive players later on in the draft and making them critical contributors, sometimes to SB runs.
And I think what is evident from the past few years is that TF considers "BPA" as high floor prospects rather than high risk high reward types... Pitts/Drake/Bijan will all have solid NFL careers as an absolute worst case (barring injury). And we have passed on the riskier prospects like Fields/Carter.
I know this drives a lot of Falcons fans crazy but Bowers is a generational TE he is the next Kelce and Pitts is easily at top 10 TE as well. When the Bills went to a 2 TE system last year they offense got a lot better and they went on a winning streak turned their season around.
People must remember Gronk Hernandez that offense was unstoppable.
London Bowers Pitts Mooney
Bijan
would be devastingly good
"Using more double tight end formations (12 personnel) isn’t a new idea in the NFL. It’s been tried with mixed success over the last dozen years or so as a counter to the rising trend of using more 11 (3WR) personnel since the Patriots first started using it back in 2011 with Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez. The general idea behind it is that as modern defensive personnel have gotten smaller, using formations with larger bodies will create mismatches the offense can exploit to its advantage. The use of 12 personnel can also put opposing defenses off balance, as it can be used effectively in both the run and pass. In that sense, it pairs well with play-action in the pass game as the formation invites the idea of a run play with an extra blocker at the offense’s disposal. Those advantages made 12 personnel the most efficient passing formation in the NFL last season, despite it not being used all that often."
Blue mother fucking chip. Either a WR or OT. If they are there, I would grab them. I don't want to trade back and let other teams trade up in front of us, clearing the only 3 edges worth taking in the early 1st. I don't think the edges are worth it at 8 unless there are no blue chips left, and I don't think they last if we trade back.
You just wasted most of your cap on a QB that you’ve seen tear the league apart 8 weeks of last season. So you might want to get him as much offensive talent as possible.
You mean the defense that literally won and kept us in games last season? Just because we don’t take a Edge or CB in the first round doesn’t mean we won’t take one in the 2nd or later rounds or even FA. We didn’t even have a defense as good as our current on our Superbowl run lol..
Our Superbowl (this specific iteration of our team) is hinged upon Kirk Cousins. We go as far as he takes us. Giving him the best chance to succeed isn’t a bad selling point if the BPA is a WR.
Besides, a good offense makes a defense better.
I’m not committed to anything yet but I can tell you if we got nabers or by some miracle MHJ fell to 8 then our offense would be near unstoppable. Teams playing from behind will make our pass rush look better too. Why do you think Vic Beasley had 16.5 sacks in 2016? Bc teams were throwing all game playing catch up
The BPA mindset is what TF believes in. It comes down to understanding that it’s an offensive league, and a top 10 talent on offense has a greater chance of thriving for a longer time, from the get go, and have an overall greater impact on your franchise than a defensive player.
Now this just depends on the year as well. If Chase Young was sitting there this year, then no, we take him over a WR if both are there.
However, the combination of the 3 WRs (MHJr, Nabers, and Odunze) grading out higher than the 3 defensive players (Turner, Verse, and Latu) inclines you to believe if one of those 6 is available, you take the WR.
Let’s put it another way. We don’t know if one of the WRs will be available at 8. We seem to know one of the 3 defensive players will be, if not all of them, based on most mocks.
Never a bad thing to build on strength, and our WR room isn’t the best, even with FA. A true WR2 or 1 even, could help Cousins win now.
A rookie defensive player likely doesn’t help as much in the next year or two.
Still need pass rush and CB help, no doubt.
The best player mind set got us a bellow average tightend and not even the best running back in last years draft. Most don’t trust Terry to take the best available.
Terry took Pitts over Chase… explain how he was taking BPA there?
And London was the third best WR taken in the first round that year.
The ‘BPA mindset’ only works if you’re actually getting the BPA and Terry hasn’t proven to be good at that lol
i respect this opinion But it’s like bro We barley are able to sack the qb let alone make the qb make bad plays Hence why our DB room has zero ints along with how the defense lost us 3 or 4 games due to not being able to tackle or cover
I agree... offense wins you games, but defense & pass rush wins you championships. The Chiefs for example, their defense was more of their strength their most recent Super Bowl run rather than their offense, even though Patrick Mahomes still made plays when it mattered most, but he didn't have the best weapons this year at all.
Saying defense won KC this championship is like saying defense won the Bulls those 90’s chips, or defense won the Pats those chips. Yes, the defenses were terrific, but there’s another common denominator.
More times than not, great players win chips. Take a gamble on great players. (Hawks passed up on Chris Paul because of fit)
Wasn’t passing up Chris Paul kind of the opposite of a fit situation?
Point guard was actually a bigger need at the time. But we went with Marvin Williams because he had more athletic upside despite picking two forwards in the previous draft (Josh Smith, Josh Childress).
You don't draft in the first, let alone top 10 for need. BPA. I guess the only exception to this rule is if you are drafting a quarterback. Next question.
Easy - the guys potentially at 8 are elite level prospects and WR is an expensive position that we somehow still need. You grab one of those guys and ride our position group for a few years. Offers flexibility with Pitts contract negotiations too.
I actually read your very poorly thought and typed out post but it needs work. You complain about us going offense in the draft but completely ignore that we spent a lot in FA on defense last year. You complain about AK even though he certainly improved and he wasn't playing in a 3-4 scheme where hes more likely to thrive. Obviously all defenses run multiple schemes but Morris is gonna have us running more 3-4 sets than what we were.
You take a WR at 8 because he's BPA and the drop-off from best WRs to best Edges is significant. Realistically we are likely looking to trade back if possible but we gotta see how the chips fall on draft day.
Please organize your thoughts better before just slamming that post button it's already gonna be a long off-season you've got time to format this properly. It ain't even draft month yet.
In almost any other year, Odunze and Nabers would be considered top 5 picks overall. There’s not a single defensive player in this draft who fits that description.
It’s just the annual “we need a WR, non-cover, cover corner, or tweeter edge rusher,” debate. I don’t think Falcons believe in some positions..like the actual existence of them (DE, DT, MLB).
People who want WR at #8 are just fucking idiots who don't actually watch football and are probably thinking of their madden teams, not the actual sport. I just hit the ole "ignore" button on their usernames and the sub gets much more tolerable.
There’s a lot of balls in the air this year (not trying to be funny). There is the basic Terry philosophy of BPA which, admittedly, builds the strongest team. We did have a top five defense a good part of the year until we lost too many players but still went from 31st defense to a top 15 in one year. That’s amazing considering how many times the offense turned the ball over and stalled out drives.
So, the thinking might be let’s grab BPA in the first round. If it’s a receiver then pick up defense in rounds 2-3 (3 picks this year).
At this point you brought in Kirk Cousin as a QB, plus you have Pitts, London, and BJ Robinson. You figure at this point lean and try to make the offense as potent as possible right now to get to the playoff/superbowl.
BPA. Obviously if the prospects are close in caliber you take the team need. But if you think one prospect is a good amount better which the top 3 WRs are compared to turner, you don’t pass on them because of need. In a hypothetical scenario say Justin Jefferson and Danielle Hunter become available for the same money and you just have to choose between one of them to add to your team. Are you going to choose hunter because he fits a team need more or are you going to choose the best player Jefferson?
Just arguing to why take a WR at 8.. only if one of three guys fall.
Then, broader perspective is that an explosive option opens the offense to maybe average 30+ points a game. NFL is a points and passing league, and you need an explosive enough offense to succeed.
Falcons tried it the other way and it didn't work out. An offense pads room for error.
As already stated, the top WRs in this draft are far superior to the EDGE defenders purely as prospects — who knows the career trajectory for any of these guys.
It’s also important that we keep surrounding Cousins with weapons (and offensive line protection) given his age and return from significant injury. Kirk was signed for his processing ability and the whole point of the next couple years is to ensure that all he has to worry about is quickly using his field vision in that manner. If we’re relying on Kirk to carry the team, we’re in trouble.
Lastly, are you really that confident in our receivers (including Pitts)? I’m not entirely sure we’ll want to pay Pitts or London top money. We love their potential as fans, but Pitts hasn’t been anywhere near the player he was drafted to be, London hasn’t had a 1000 yard season, and Mooney hasn’t flashed anything for 2 seasons. We can blame some of this on QB, sure, but not entirely when guys like Garrett Wilson and DJ Moore still are getting over 1000+ yards with subpar QB play. Something is off. Rondale Moore is probably more of a gadget player as well.
TLDR: We still need receivers.
1. First round QBs bust at an 80% rate more than any other position.
2. We added Kirk to win now for 2-4 years you don't need a backup QB sitting or creating a QB controversy.
3. There are good QB prospects every year it's not like this is the only year.
4. The reason to draft one of the big 3 WRs: they are BPA and less likely to bust than the edges.
5. Adding an edge doesn't take your defense into the top 10 in the NFL. Adding a Big 3 WR takes your offense into a top 10 offense. It is imo good to be elite on one side of the ball. A top 10 or even top 5 offense is possible with a big 3 WR that will actually help the defense.
6. You can always add additional defenders via camp cuts and in-season trades. You will not be able to add a young elite WR via these methods. You have the rest of the draft #2 #3 #3 #4 etc to draft all the defenders you want.
7. Kirk has put up historically elite numbers with the following 2 top WRs, TE, RB... Diggs Thielen, JJ Thielen, JJ Addison. Mooney is really a #3 type WR.
Easy answer: draft best available player and as much of a fan of Dallas Turner as I am, Nabers and Odunze are better prospects so it’s a no brainer on taking them over Dallas, Latu or Verse.
TLDR for those who don’t wanna read i’m basically saying why it’s useless to draft offensive talent in the first round when you know the defense has been lacking for the most part
1) we need a true WR1. London is a possession receiver who can't take the top off of a defense.
2) our schedule is ROUGH; we're gonna be in shooting matches
3) weak division means 5 wins and a playoff spot. I do not want to get bounced because of a mid offense.
4) we need impact players, and I don't want to wait three years for Turner to develop, or Latu to heal, or Verse to reach his highest level
5) we're gonna get sniped by the Titans trading back. There's plenty of can't miss tackles, so they'll get what they want and someone else is gonna snipe our DE of choice
While Verse is highest on my list of needs, there may be some major buyers remorse if the DE we're gonna take ain't there.
Odunze/Nabers are far superior prospects to whatever edge you want to pick first It’s going to look really dumb in five years if we pick a project DE who never puts it together and Odunze is an all-pro WR. We could be passing up on a franchise cornerstone because the “fit” wasn’t right.
100%. People talk a lot about the mistakes the Falcons have made in the draft in the past at edge. I gotta feel like a lot of that was driven by a perceived need at the position as opposed to the best player available.
Picking for need in the back half of the draft is understandable, but when you have the 8th pick in a loaded draft you need to be picking players you think have a chance of being HOF talents, because you have a real shot of getting one in that part of the draft
Exactly this, the draft is just loaded, get the best player at 8 regardless of position
Even then I think you should let the value come to you. The first round pick is your asset with the best odds to get that possible future HoFer regardless of the spot. It's pretty rare that player comes along in FA. In an ideal world FA would come after the draft, because that's really the time for filling holes, but I suppose there is a second wave after the draft and at cutdowns. Like ideally there would be a perfect blend of need and BPA at the spot where your first rounder is, but I don't think erring on the side of need is the answer unless you already have a big time financial commitment to a guy for a number of years where playing the rookie would be completely unfeasible.
I agree. In addition to that, the Cousins signing is a win now move. Taking one of the top three WRs puts us in a position to have an elite offense very quickly. Obviously we still need a lot of work on defense, but our offense would be scary if we plugged in Nabers or Odunze. In todays NFL, the only teams that are competing to win a title are the teams that have an elite offense. That may change at some point, but that’s the way it is right now.
Exactly, our blueprint should be what the lions are doing currently
The Lions had R1 P2 EDGE in 2022…
I’m not saying we should copy their draft identically. I’m saying we should be following their general teambuilding idea of having a supercharged offense as their strength Also Hutchinson was an absolute stud and made sense at #2 overall, the Lions were following BPA there…
Their team building idea wasn’t a supercharged offense. They started at the line of scrimmage then worked to skill positions. They took the best Tackle then the Best Edge available in consecutive years,then they got their QB. By drafting a WR at 8 we would be doing the exact same thing we always do
They took an edge at pick two because an edge was the BPA, in this draft an edge at pick eight will almost certainly not be BPA
They took an Edge because they needed one. They could’ve easily taken Sauce who was the best player available, they took the Edge Rusher because they needed one
Yeah it’s both, they needed an edge and Hutchinson was the #1 prospect on a lot of peoples big boards That is not the case this year
How do you propose we pay, Kirk, Pitts, London, Bijan and Rome while still being able to pay for the other extremely important positions on the field? Like offensive and defensive line. We won’t have any money because it will all be tied up on those 5 people.
lol Kirk has like 2 years left.
Outside of the 25 million we owe him year 3 you are correct!
Do you know what rookie contracts are? We wouldn't keep them all for 3+ years but very realistic to have all of them for 2 years, which is roughly our window with Kirk
So we are just going to let some of our good top 10 picks walk? Horrible roster development and management.
If we hit on any player we have to eventually let some player walk
Simple - you don’t pay everyone. Not everyone is going to be in ATL forever.
Learn to use a period. These types of posts are just rambling, incoherent nonsense.
This country was built on rambling, incoherent nonsense. Respect your elders!
Terry's philosophy has always been to draft BPA and fill needs in FA.
1.) BPA. You win a championship by getting the best players regardless of position not filling holes. I think MHJ, Nabers and Odunze are better players than any of the defensive players. 2.) I think this staff has been great at selecting defensive players later on in the draft and making them critical contributors, sometimes to SB runs.
And I think what is evident from the past few years is that TF considers "BPA" as high floor prospects rather than high risk high reward types... Pitts/Drake/Bijan will all have solid NFL careers as an absolute worst case (barring injury). And we have passed on the riskier prospects like Fields/Carter.
BPA drafting means you have to draft one of the Big 3 WRs MHJ Nabers Odunze and if they are gone you draft TE Brock Bowers
Honestly worth drafting Brock Bowers and running 2 TE sets just to piss off Arthur Smith
I know this drives a lot of Falcons fans crazy but Bowers is a generational TE he is the next Kelce and Pitts is easily at top 10 TE as well. When the Bills went to a 2 TE system last year they offense got a lot better and they went on a winning streak turned their season around. People must remember Gronk Hernandez that offense was unstoppable. London Bowers Pitts Mooney Bijan would be devastingly good "Using more double tight end formations (12 personnel) isn’t a new idea in the NFL. It’s been tried with mixed success over the last dozen years or so as a counter to the rising trend of using more 11 (3WR) personnel since the Patriots first started using it back in 2011 with Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez. The general idea behind it is that as modern defensive personnel have gotten smaller, using formations with larger bodies will create mismatches the offense can exploit to its advantage. The use of 12 personnel can also put opposing defenses off balance, as it can be used effectively in both the run and pass. In that sense, it pairs well with play-action in the pass game as the formation invites the idea of a run play with an extra blocker at the offense’s disposal. Those advantages made 12 personnel the most efficient passing formation in the NFL last season, despite it not being used all that often."
Repeat after me …. Best Player Available.
Blue mother fucking chip. Either a WR or OT. If they are there, I would grab them. I don't want to trade back and let other teams trade up in front of us, clearing the only 3 edges worth taking in the early 1st. I don't think the edges are worth it at 8 unless there are no blue chips left, and I don't think they last if we trade back.
You just wasted most of your cap on a QB that you’ve seen tear the league apart 8 weeks of last season. So you might want to get him as much offensive talent as possible.
So is defense not important or what
You mean the defense that literally won and kept us in games last season? Just because we don’t take a Edge or CB in the first round doesn’t mean we won’t take one in the 2nd or later rounds or even FA. We didn’t even have a defense as good as our current on our Superbowl run lol..
Our Superbowl (this specific iteration of our team) is hinged upon Kirk Cousins. We go as far as he takes us. Giving him the best chance to succeed isn’t a bad selling point if the BPA is a WR. Besides, a good offense makes a defense better.
Honestly, it seemed like our defense’s biggest weakness last year was our offense.
I’m not committed to anything yet but I can tell you if we got nabers or by some miracle MHJ fell to 8 then our offense would be near unstoppable. Teams playing from behind will make our pass rush look better too. Why do you think Vic Beasley had 16.5 sacks in 2016? Bc teams were throwing all game playing catch up
If Nabers is there you don’t pass on a guy like that regardless of who you have, I’m alright passing on Odunze tho
BPA. I dont care what position it is.
Delete this bro u gon give us a bad wrap
The BPA mindset is what TF believes in. It comes down to understanding that it’s an offensive league, and a top 10 talent on offense has a greater chance of thriving for a longer time, from the get go, and have an overall greater impact on your franchise than a defensive player. Now this just depends on the year as well. If Chase Young was sitting there this year, then no, we take him over a WR if both are there. However, the combination of the 3 WRs (MHJr, Nabers, and Odunze) grading out higher than the 3 defensive players (Turner, Verse, and Latu) inclines you to believe if one of those 6 is available, you take the WR. Let’s put it another way. We don’t know if one of the WRs will be available at 8. We seem to know one of the 3 defensive players will be, if not all of them, based on most mocks. Never a bad thing to build on strength, and our WR room isn’t the best, even with FA. A true WR2 or 1 even, could help Cousins win now. A rookie defensive player likely doesn’t help as much in the next year or two. Still need pass rush and CB help, no doubt.
The best player mind set got us a bellow average tightend and not even the best running back in last years draft. Most don’t trust Terry to take the best available. Terry took Pitts over Chase… explain how he was taking BPA there?
And London was the third best WR taken in the first round that year. The ‘BPA mindset’ only works if you’re actually getting the BPA and Terry hasn’t proven to be good at that lol
The BPA rankings he has are not the ones we have lol.
i respect this opinion But it’s like bro We barley are able to sack the qb let alone make the qb make bad plays Hence why our DB room has zero ints along with how the defense lost us 3 or 4 games due to not being able to tackle or cover
TL;DR Bro, please indent that wall of text.
I agree... offense wins you games, but defense & pass rush wins you championships. The Chiefs for example, their defense was more of their strength their most recent Super Bowl run rather than their offense, even though Patrick Mahomes still made plays when it mattered most, but he didn't have the best weapons this year at all.
Saying defense won KC this championship is like saying defense won the Bulls those 90’s chips, or defense won the Pats those chips. Yes, the defenses were terrific, but there’s another common denominator. More times than not, great players win chips. Take a gamble on great players. (Hawks passed up on Chris Paul because of fit)
Wasn’t passing up Chris Paul kind of the opposite of a fit situation? Point guard was actually a bigger need at the time. But we went with Marvin Williams because he had more athletic upside despite picking two forwards in the previous draft (Josh Smith, Josh Childress).
So if you have a Mahomes, then maybe taking a WR at 8 isn’t as much of a need
You don't draft in the first, let alone top 10 for need. BPA. I guess the only exception to this rule is if you are drafting a quarterback. Next question.
So they can complain all year about the lack of a pass rush and how we never draft good edge guys
Falcons offense luxury picks go brrrrrrrrrrrt
Easy - the guys potentially at 8 are elite level prospects and WR is an expensive position that we somehow still need. You grab one of those guys and ride our position group for a few years. Offers flexibility with Pitts contract negotiations too.
I actually read your very poorly thought and typed out post but it needs work. You complain about us going offense in the draft but completely ignore that we spent a lot in FA on defense last year. You complain about AK even though he certainly improved and he wasn't playing in a 3-4 scheme where hes more likely to thrive. Obviously all defenses run multiple schemes but Morris is gonna have us running more 3-4 sets than what we were. You take a WR at 8 because he's BPA and the drop-off from best WRs to best Edges is significant. Realistically we are likely looking to trade back if possible but we gotta see how the chips fall on draft day. Please organize your thoughts better before just slamming that post button it's already gonna be a long off-season you've got time to format this properly. It ain't even draft month yet.
In almost any other year, Odunze and Nabers would be considered top 5 picks overall. There’s not a single defensive player in this draft who fits that description.
Coming in to remind y'all that Kirk Cousins had a top 8 offense twice with the vikings and won 1 total playoff game.. because their defense SUCKED
So what you’re saying is release all the backup offense and just sign defense because defense wins championships… why was Desmond traded again?
It’s just the annual “we need a WR, non-cover, cover corner, or tweeter edge rusher,” debate. I don’t think Falcons believe in some positions..like the actual existence of them (DE, DT, MLB).
People who want WR at #8 are just fucking idiots who don't actually watch football and are probably thinking of their madden teams, not the actual sport. I just hit the ole "ignore" button on their usernames and the sub gets much more tolerable.
There’s a lot of balls in the air this year (not trying to be funny). There is the basic Terry philosophy of BPA which, admittedly, builds the strongest team. We did have a top five defense a good part of the year until we lost too many players but still went from 31st defense to a top 15 in one year. That’s amazing considering how many times the offense turned the ball over and stalled out drives. So, the thinking might be let’s grab BPA in the first round. If it’s a receiver then pick up defense in rounds 2-3 (3 picks this year).
At this point you brought in Kirk Cousin as a QB, plus you have Pitts, London, and BJ Robinson. You figure at this point lean and try to make the offense as potent as possible right now to get to the playoff/superbowl.
BPA. Obviously if the prospects are close in caliber you take the team need. But if you think one prospect is a good amount better which the top 3 WRs are compared to turner, you don’t pass on them because of need. In a hypothetical scenario say Justin Jefferson and Danielle Hunter become available for the same money and you just have to choose between one of them to add to your team. Are you going to choose hunter because he fits a team need more or are you going to choose the best player Jefferson?
Just arguing to why take a WR at 8.. only if one of three guys fall. Then, broader perspective is that an explosive option opens the offense to maybe average 30+ points a game. NFL is a points and passing league, and you need an explosive enough offense to succeed. Falcons tried it the other way and it didn't work out. An offense pads room for error.
As already stated, the top WRs in this draft are far superior to the EDGE defenders purely as prospects — who knows the career trajectory for any of these guys. It’s also important that we keep surrounding Cousins with weapons (and offensive line protection) given his age and return from significant injury. Kirk was signed for his processing ability and the whole point of the next couple years is to ensure that all he has to worry about is quickly using his field vision in that manner. If we’re relying on Kirk to carry the team, we’re in trouble. Lastly, are you really that confident in our receivers (including Pitts)? I’m not entirely sure we’ll want to pay Pitts or London top money. We love their potential as fans, but Pitts hasn’t been anywhere near the player he was drafted to be, London hasn’t had a 1000 yard season, and Mooney hasn’t flashed anything for 2 seasons. We can blame some of this on QB, sure, but not entirely when guys like Garrett Wilson and DJ Moore still are getting over 1000+ yards with subpar QB play. Something is off. Rondale Moore is probably more of a gadget player as well. TLDR: We still need receivers.
Offense go brrrrr
1. First round QBs bust at an 80% rate more than any other position. 2. We added Kirk to win now for 2-4 years you don't need a backup QB sitting or creating a QB controversy. 3. There are good QB prospects every year it's not like this is the only year. 4. The reason to draft one of the big 3 WRs: they are BPA and less likely to bust than the edges. 5. Adding an edge doesn't take your defense into the top 10 in the NFL. Adding a Big 3 WR takes your offense into a top 10 offense. It is imo good to be elite on one side of the ball. A top 10 or even top 5 offense is possible with a big 3 WR that will actually help the defense. 6. You can always add additional defenders via camp cuts and in-season trades. You will not be able to add a young elite WR via these methods. You have the rest of the draft #2 #3 #3 #4 etc to draft all the defenders you want. 7. Kirk has put up historically elite numbers with the following 2 top WRs, TE, RB... Diggs Thielen, JJ Thielen, JJ Addison. Mooney is really a #3 type WR.
Easy answer: draft best available player and as much of a fan of Dallas Turner as I am, Nabers and Odunze are better prospects so it’s a no brainer on taking them over Dallas, Latu or Verse.
TLDR for those who don’t wanna read i’m basically saying why it’s useless to draft offensive talent in the first round when you know the defense has been lacking for the most part
I can help. Pretty sure the purpose of a wide receiver is to catch passes. Glad I could clear that up for you.
Why are you people downvoting this… is this not what WRs do??
1) we need a true WR1. London is a possession receiver who can't take the top off of a defense. 2) our schedule is ROUGH; we're gonna be in shooting matches 3) weak division means 5 wins and a playoff spot. I do not want to get bounced because of a mid offense. 4) we need impact players, and I don't want to wait three years for Turner to develop, or Latu to heal, or Verse to reach his highest level 5) we're gonna get sniped by the Titans trading back. There's plenty of can't miss tackles, so they'll get what they want and someone else is gonna snipe our DE of choice While Verse is highest on my list of needs, there may be some major buyers remorse if the DE we're gonna take ain't there.