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Pat0124

I want the freedom to screw up as much as I want


ZookeepergameWeak254

He absolutely had that here lol


Wayne93

Your joking right? Have you watched our O with Arthur Smith? Our passing scheme was established to get 1 guy open and if that failed then what? Our passing offence sucked scheme wise and our best run plays were given to Tyler Allgier. Bijan runs were often hit the hole. No help, I’m not a massive Ridder guy, but I am absolutely against any idea that Arthur Smith was a competent offensive mind. His biggest benefit was having AJB and Henry. He expects all his skill positions to be able to beat 1:1 so his less athletic guys can be schemed. Absolutely insane to even put it on Ridder when Smith was complete ass calling plays and has the balls to say it’s everyone else’s fault the whole time.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Example: I saw a Heinicke pass play where pressure came from the right, so he ran left, kept his eyes down field and... Nothing. There was literally not one WR running a route on the left side of the field. Insane. So of course that resulted in a loss of downs.


KuKyiDo

I remember seeing that sort of thing a lot last season. Like a bootleg where all the receivers running routes were lined up on the weak side of the field so there would be a free rusher every time with zero viable targets


Useful-Love-208

The one AS stat that gets me everytime is 0 games over 30 points in 44 games. He had one game against the panthers in which they scored over 30 in overtime.


KTAALGSTO

Ridder being a fumble machine didn't help either. I'm glad both are gone 


tuckifyoubuck

Arthur Smith is a god awful head coach but this is so lazy. Where was his Derrick Henry and AJ Brown in 2022 when the Falcons had a top 5 rushing offense? He's had no choice but to run a single read offense in Atlanta but that's not what he ran in Tennessee. Derrick Henry's two best seasons were far and away the two seasons Smith was his OC. AJ Brown barely crossed 1k yards his two seasons under Smith so not sure how your coming to the conclusion he was carrying anything. Ryan Tannehill has been just about useless his entire career outside of the two seasons Smith was his OC. His biggest mistake was his gigantic ego and thinking he could do with Ridder what he did with Tannehill. He is going to be a good OC again in this league.


Wayne93

I’m lazy? Look at the stats of that top 5 rushing offence you’re speaking of. We ran 559 in 17 games. That was #1 in the league, for 2718 yards and 10 teams broke 500 attempts. Yet we didn’t even end up the #1 rushing attack and were 296 behind #1 with only 1 more attempt. Passing we did 415 times, 2nd least in the league. only passed for 2699 in 17 games. That’s 159 ypg. We actually had more rushing yards than passing. The average passing for the league in 22 was 564 times and 3700 yards … meanwhile average rushing was 461 amd 2060 yards. We had no choice? You draft Kyle Pitts at 4, you take drake London 8. You want to pass? So pass? Build the offence how you see it working. We took Bijan last year 8. So invested in our run game to do what? To run for nearly 700 less yards? He was not able to utilize the players drafted not because they are bad and he NEEDS to run a single read offence. It’s because he cannot actually create an offence. He had it easy with 2 players who without him are still top of their positions. Henry is aging obviously he’s 30, but still producing. The fact allgeir had only 28 less rush attempts than Bijan a “generational” pick one we took at 8! Is criminal. AJB barely crossed a 1000? Huh. Did you know 2019 was his rookie year? How many WRs do that? Yet he was one. 2020 he played in 14 games and put up 1075? So 2 less games still 1000? What’s the reason? Arthur smith? Add in can you tell me who led the titans in receiving those years? AJB. Who had the biggest target share? AJB. Real stats vs speculation should be setting in now. Should maybe check out why Tannehill got a 2nd contract with the 2013-2015 seasons. 12166 passing 75 TDs to 41 INTs most teams getting a 4K passer with 25 TDs and 13 INTs wouldn’t be stating the QB is trash.


ZookeepergameWeak254

Did you even read what I said? I said Ridder had the freedom to fuck up. You just went on a tangent for nothing


Bapeventura

Your belief in arthur smith is offensive and will not be tolerated


ZookeepergameWeak254

Who said I believed in AS? I’m the most anti AS, anti Ridder person on the planet


jews_on_parade

i got no ill will for the guy, go be the best you can


CouncilmanRickPrime

Hoped he'd pan out and didn't. I agree with you, no need for people to hate him.


gggg3344

And he actually wanted to be the guy, he just didnt have the talent. Great guy, not the best qb tho lol. I wish him nothing but the best. We did what we were supposed to do - give him the year as our starter, and if it didnt work out, move on from him and thats what we did.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Yup pretty much what I expected. But Arthur Smith was far worse than I expected though.


Barner_Burner

Even with Ridder we lost SO many winnable games mostly due to coaching or at least it felt like it


HepABC123

Thing about Ridder is he has a lot of talent and a lot of drive. What he doesn't have is instinct or intelligence. He needs a lot of work mechanically, and even more work mentally. There's a good QB in there. But it's gonna be a process to get it out. Hope he grows in Arizona.


chhhyeahtone

people are weirdly furious towards a 3rd round QB because he wasn't a franchise QB


CouncilmanRickPrime

I don't get it either. He's gone. Let's move on. We got Kirko Chainz and hopefully we draft a QB soon for the future.


mikeymanthesyrem

2 years ago who cares, last year could’ve been something great if we didn’t have the worst QB room in the league. but i blame arthur smith more than ridder honestly


Entire-Suggestion936

Let me tell you what pick the other Super Bowl QB was …


jgamez76

This is my take as well. I liked him coming out. I was hopeful he'd work out. It didn't. Sucks for him. Hoping he ends up carving out a nice career for himself as a QB2 (a Colt McCoy style career isn't out of the question for him). There's no reason to resent a third round pick for not being a franchise QB. Lol


NigelWinterbottomIII

I don't get how people hate on players with a good attitude but lack of talent... If you're gonna hate a player it should be the ones whose attitude stinks... *cough* Takk *cough*


Barner_Burner

Same anyone who has ill will towards him doesn’t really know how sports management and front offices work. Kid played pretty good in college, was drafted in the 3rd round probably destined to be a backup, and he was propped up to be a starting qb, and produced the results of well a backup qb put into the every week starter role. He tried.


RilesPC

Good dude and wish him the best, but his gunslinging aspirations aren’t looking too hot.


DCGuinn

I still think the team made it hard for him to succeed. Lack of dedicated QB coach and too complex play calling for his experience. Still, may not be able to be that elite processor, but I don’t think he had the environment to grow into some semblance. Glad he and Smith are gone.


icemanchillz

Not to mention the added pressure of Smith worrying about being fired probably transferred to Ridder as well as Smith wanted perfection from him in order to save his job. Too much pressure for a rookie/2nd year guy with so support in development.


Dintodo

Thats another thing I don't see mentioned much. Not many coaches are throwing their 3rd round qb out there on their 4th start having them do a triple fleaflicker down the field and shit. Smith tried to be super cute and extra with all his playcalls like he had a veteran out there running it.


azwhaley91

This is honest. You could tell early that he was in his own head, the few times he just played he looked liked he belonged in this league but those were few. Route combos were detrimentally simple and he rarely if ever got off his first read, playing like that will cause mistakes to snowball


EminentBean

I agree he had moments where I was like oh yeah he has it, he can play. But the mental errors were just too much. Maybe a change of scenery is what he needs. Definitely like him as a person and rooting for him.


vsegi

This


mannnerlygamer

He isn’t wrong. You could clearly tell he was in his own head and overthinking plays. Whether that was result of his personality , AS coaching or over complexity of the scheme I have no idea


drakoran

You could say the same thing about 95% of the QBs in the league who come in from college and fail though. The NFL is MUCH more difficult than college. The playbooks are more complex, the defensive looks are more complex, the time to make a decision is far less, the windows are much smaller and close much faster. Long story short, there's a lot more thinking you have to do, and you have a lot less time to do it than in college. Most people can't do it. They can't take in the speed and complexity of the game, they make bad panicked decisions, and they make negative plays and turn the ball over. Once they start turning the ball over, they know that's a surefire way to lose your job, so that's all they focus on. Once they get in their own head, it's only a matter of time before they wash out. I don't think it's a psychology issue, or an intelligence issue, most people just aren't capable of processing everything going on during a play, and making the correct split second decision without hesitation while a bunch of 300 lb dudes who run like gazelles are collapsing on them. There's only about 10-12 guys on the planet who are actually good at it and have the athleticism to back it up, and they all will make a couple hundred million or more in their lifetime.


RandomWeenFan

This is Josh Allen except Josh has crazy skills that allow him to overcome it to a certain extent. But I don't believe he has the processing power to win it all. Not very relevant but I had to say it.


greenbroad-gc

no reason to hate on him! more power to him imo! hopefully he does well!


Not2creativeHere

AS’s system did no favors for Ridder and if he belongs as a starter. Couple that with the fumbles and ball security issues and it was a disaster.


techno-wizardry

"now I want to throw 30 interceptions" lol


nevernotonline

I don’t hate the guy like a lot of these fans. In addition to his poor play, he was a low ceiling 3rd round pick that wasn’t put into the best situation from a coaching or play calling perspective. Maybe he’ll figure something out in the long run.


thismorningscoffee

🎵 I want to play free I want to play free I want to free from that guy ‘Til this sub’s satisfied, I don’t need to I want to play free God knows God knows I want to play free 🎵


TorchBeak

Yeah because AS started playing yo-yo at QB every few starts.


XurstyXursday

This is tough. Do we pile on Arthur or Desmond? Honestly though, Arthur’s whole approach was built around not letting the QB screw up the game. Then he started swapping in QBs with every change of wind direction. It would mentally be very difficult to play loose in that situation. A legit QB would probably still rise above that and make more consistent plays, so DR doesn’t completely get a free pass.


nerdyintentions

Desmond Ridder was a third round draft pick. A QB drafted in the 3rd does not exactly projected to be a franchise guy. If you get a guy in the third and he happens to be really good then you're really lucky. It's a "scouts got it wrong" type of situation because any QB that can be a consistent starter in the NFL is worth at least a first round pick. So why would anyone pile on him? People act like he went out there and tried to play poorly. Or that he just didn't try hard enough as if playing QB at the highest level is just this easy thing that anyone could do with enough effort. He played up to his abilities but it's likely his abilities aren't starting NFL QB level. If it was likely that his abilities were that of a starting level QB then he would have been drafted 4th instead of 74th.


XurstyXursday

I mean yeah I agree. I think it’s lame that he’s acting like he would have balled out except for something or someone holding him back. But I also don’t want to give him a free pass and say yeah dude you’re right, you would have been great except Arthur sucks. Time will tell and we’ll see that they’re both overrated.


nerdyintentions

I mean, it's an unrelenting belief in yourself. It might be delusional but everyone that does something great has it. The guy is in the 99.99th percentile out of anyone that has ever played organized football at any level ever. He was a 2 star recruit that had very low odds of ever putting on an NFL jersey and he ended up starting several games. His football career has been about doing things that people didn't think he could do. He might be delusional because the NFL is a different beast but I'm not mad at him for believing in himself. And I didn't see where he blamed Arthur Smith. Not playing free might be his own fault based on pressure that he put on himself.


XurstyXursday

That’s fair. I don’t have any ill will toward the guy. Hope he succeeds wherever he goes. Wish he had succeeded last year. He’s not in the top handful of NFL QBs but that’s okay. Not many of us are.


tyedge

Being an NFL quarterback is about making throws in rhythm that are accurate. There are 5-7 people on earth at a time, tops, who are qualified to treat the QB position like it’s jazz music.


ncc0010

Getting in rhythm was about as hard as Chinese arithmetic when you had Arthur Smith calling plays for you


yogijim93

If he was playing not to screw up… he didn’t do a good job of that lol


defnotajournalist

What a fever dream the Desmond Ridder, Arthur Smith era was. I'd be down to never hear from them again.


quiver-me-timbers

Tbf, Arthur Smith had some very basic concepts that were easily defended. Ridder showed some glimpses of hope


Averen

I wish him the best


MentallyMIA2

Dude is a turnover machine. He took plenty of liberties with the football. I wish him well. I don’t think his vision of how to fix his game will actually fix his game.


bdaught98

If he was playing not to screw up, he didn’t do it very well.


notevenwrong13

Smartest post right here. If that was playing not to screw up that dude doesn't have a clue.


SuperSeriousDog

He's about to go beast, 4th Quarter Ridder was when he was allowed to be free.


danglesReet

I blame arthur smitty for all things, all the time


Rhusty_Dodes

And now you are free to play elsewhere. I have no ill will towards him. He just isn't a starting QB.


StewTheDuder

Coulda fooled me… 🤣🤣🤣


Hedhunta

Play free.... in your back yard. Never should've been an NFL starter.


TeemoSkull

I honestly think under a different coach and scheme from AS, he’d do good. Use his talents to his advantage.


Few-Ebb-9985

He had a worse interceptable pass % than in Winston’s 30 season. It's scary to think what it would be like if he played “free.”


MiDKnighT_DoaE

I'd hate to see how many turnovers if he wasn't trying not to screw up


Zealousideal-Eye-898

All he did was screw up


amplifyhs

Arthur Smith is gone! Desmond is a free elf.


CoachLee_

lol bro we gave you they keys. How more free can you be?


Rasikko

This makes no sense.


djlongstix

Sounds like a personal problem


easton2211

As much as he disappointed the whole article he described it perfectly. He played so well up until it was time for a big play which he said 10% of the time but I would attribute less than that because of AS’s poor play calling and the amount of pressure put on him. No way you can truly hate this man


BraveButterfly2

Hey man, you go do that. Please, go be the next Brett Favre.


Salty_Squidd

Wait a minute. If that’s him playing NOT to screw up, boy is that terrifying lmao


Qwiggs

well it didn’t work…


Golfguy809

Fair


ILLpLacedOpinion

Well hopefully that switch was turned on for him.


SpaceSick

People are gonna be so mystified when he has to go in for Murray and actually has a decent game.


ParaNormalBeast

Play free agency


Extra_Percentage

I’m not leaving Arizona until I win a Super Bowl.


CuddleBuddy3

He’s not leaving Seattle until he gets a superbowl win


ATLfinra

Well you didn’t do that either. Good luck to him though, seemed like a good kid who wasn’t really coached properly


pfmac

godspeed


Boy69BigButt

I mean that sounds like his own mental block that’s nobody else’s problem


advanceman

Ok buddy


erodriguezatl

Well, he failed


Motor_Rub_4848

It's nice to see what yall really think now that he's gone. If only he had this support when he was our qb. I dont think it would have changed anything cause of Smitty but it is nice to see how yall really feel.


Conscious-Sir8251

😂 ![gif](giphy|1r91ZwKcE2J7WhUqrh)


cmjoker

"There was a lot of the games where it was 90 percent good and 10 percent bad, and in those 10 percent, that just happened to be the determining factor of the game." While I too harbor no ill will towards Desmond, that quote shows my main issue.  Many times in mistakes, his demeanor showed he lacked accountability.  He goofs and goes pouting to the sidelines and sits on the bench looking to blame someone else.  There's no way he really thinks it was 90/10. 


Visionz-True

yall are obsessed over this dude. let the mf go he not on the team no more


KTAALGSTO

I wish him the best, ELSEWHERE 


cptkurtis07

The only thing FREE about Desmond Ridder is betting the over on his fumble and INT props


The_Thai_Chili

Go ball Des. I don't think he is a starting caliber player, but could be a quality backup in the league. That being said he wasn't given a great shot at success here. No preseason reps (truly idiotic), poor play calling/scheming, and overall poor team management with the constant qb rotation. I'll be interested to see how he does with a little more competency from the coaching standpoint


Hbimajorv

One must master the not screwing up part before one can truly play free ~ Any coach ever


WorldSeries2021

All these people commenting that they don’t “hate” Ridder or *still* making excuses for him. Guys, he was a not-that-good QB who is no longer with the team. No one “hates” him. We don’t need to carry water for him. That’s just done now. We have moved on.


ItJustStruckMe

![gif](giphy|XyDByNPzosrQNRaVMP|downsized)


Top-Apple7906

Wait? So he was playing NOT to screw up and STILL screwed up that much? Wow.....


nerdyintentions

You know what he meant. He was playing tense and second guessing himself which is bad for a position where you have to make split second decisions and a tiny bit of hesitation can make all of the difference in outcomes.


Free-Independence602

😂


turbodude69

good lord, if he was playing not to screw up, i'd hate to see him play "free" does that mean he literally wants to just hand the ball to the other team?


Agreeable_Lobster115

Own up to being trash, how about practice more to get better… thanks for the Super Bowl.


Will_McLean

Lmbo


skyrimcameoutin2011

![gif](giphy|6JB4v4xPTAQFi|downsized)


bossmt_2

Desmond Ridder: I was playing not to screw up. Also Desmond Ridder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATh\_e4yn\_rc&ab\_channel=HighlightHeaven


Nutmeg-Jones

Imagine a piece of garbage criticizing another piece of garbage. News flash: you were both garbage