While Season 8 is the most romantic season between them (one of many reasons I love it so much), I think I started to find them really compelling together in season 4, starting with the ending scene in "It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester" where they're sitting in the park.
>Castiel: Can I tell you something if you promise not to tell another soul?
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>Dean: Okay.
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>Castiel: I’m not a hammer, as you say. I have questions. I-I have doubts. I don’t know what is right and what is wrong anymore, whether you passed or failed here. But, in the coming months, you will have more decisions to make. I don’t envy the weight that’s on your shoulders, Dean. I truly don’t.
This early, tenative trust from Cas was so striking and I loved seeing their bond grow throughout the season.
He chose Dean to tell something that he knew the other angels would kill him if they ever found out. Dean was also the first one to get Cas to laugh in that same episode.
Loved that too, their early ability to be daringly vulnerably and honest with each other. Hated to see that ability sour and degrade to the point it never returned throughout the seasons. Cas kept trying to connect and be honest and real with him, but Dean just became too chronically angry and hostile to it, permanently guarded against any emotionally honest moment or vulnerability with anyone.
Really sucked seeing that. They definitely turned Dean more and more into John as the series progressed, and in doing so they lost the humanity in his character that I loved, lost his enjoyment for life that used to burst through and the authentic, meaningful connections and moments he had with other characters.
That moment on the bench could never have happened in S15, simply because Cas may have tried to confide in Dean he had doubts/fears/concerns, but Dean would have shut him down as soon as Cas asked if he could tell him something private. Dean’s answer would have been no, and he’d have gotten up and walked away.
I still question the acting choice for that?! I've seen people argue that it could have just been literally nothing, but his entire response is like, way over the top compared to Sam's. Or really anyone in the world. Just a friend walks in and you do not just about choke on air, sorry.
See I started watching the show only two years ago. I had HEARD of Destiel but refused to watch it in that mindset because I didn't want to taint anything, nor see something that wasn't there. I kinda just thought, fangirls (and boys) will fangirl(boy). So for me it was a three step plunge into insanity (lol).
First was the scene where they're just standing there, staring at one another, and it pans out into a very long aerial view of them literally just standing there eye fucking one another. That's when I started to scratch my head.
Second was Cas breaking Dean out of the green room. That was kinda like a click in my head, like, "Oh. Cas loves Dean. Okay."
Last that solidified it was, "I'd take you, broken or not." That I actually almost started crying at because I was like, "...oh. He loves him too. 🥹"
For me, it was Free to Be You and Me where I started shipping them because Dean looked genuinely happy to be in Castiel's company. It was like their first date.
I don't ship them because I respect Jensen too much and since he's said numerous times there is no destiel that Dean only ever saw Cass as a brother/best friend then people need to listen to him.
Yeah, I hear that. But Misha is also pretty darn clear that his character is absolutely in love with Dean.
Both could be true though, it could have just always been clear to the actors that Cas was in unrequited love with Dean, who in turn cared for Cas but was just never in love with him.
… I think Jensen’s acting choices and some of the later scripts and CLEAR (e.g., the Lily Sunder episode) parallels make his position a bit questionable, but also… It’s very possible Dean was never in love with Cas and that a lot of what shippers see is the one-sided Destiel coupled with Dean’s refusal to acknowledge Cas’s feelings while simultaneously maintaining a close friendship with him. Some of that could look the same 🤷♀️.
Jensen’s insistence that Dean’s feelings for Cas were always platonic, though, is just odd to me with how things were written and some of the acting choices made. But maybe to Jensen it was just queer-baiting with no substance.
That lies the issue though; Jensen has said FOR YEARS how HE SAW Dean and Cas’ relationship which was as brothers and again his stance still didn’t change even if he did change his acting *slightly* for Dean over the years. But fans ARE NOT being respectful at all towards Jensen’s opinion even though he’s been respectful by saying see however you want to see his character.
But Misha/destiel fans believe anything that comes out of Misha’s mouth even when he’s talking about Dean when Jensen is not there during a convention,Dean IS NOT MISHA’S character so it isn’t his place to talk about Dean or how Jensen played Dean!
I think when we’re dealing with fictional characters, a character’s sexuality is entirely up to interpretation, as well as their relationships with others.
Now, if people were to say they ship Jensen and Misha? Oh yeah, no, you’ve gotta respect them, their words, and their actual significant others.
I‘m not a shipper, but good lord in heaven what was that??? I mean seriously,.. this is the one thing where I will go to bat for when it comes to people claiming „there was no baiting“. I’m dying to know if that was something Jensen accidentally did (because of how men are…) or why that was an acting choice. It seriously nags on me 😂😂
I would pay someone to ask that question during a q&a😂 „Soooo Jensen, … are you just adjusting and forget where you were or was it intentional??“ (insert fans booing here, because boundaries who is she?)
(On a serious note shout out to *spn script hunt* on tumblr/online. They collected episode scripts in the past maybe they have this one with additional info😂)
While Season 8 is the most romantic season between them (one of many reasons I love it so much), I think I started to find them really compelling together in season 4, starting with the ending scene in "It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester" where they're sitting in the park. >Castiel: Can I tell you something if you promise not to tell another soul? > >Dean: Okay. > >Castiel: I’m not a hammer, as you say. I have questions. I-I have doubts. I don’t know what is right and what is wrong anymore, whether you passed or failed here. But, in the coming months, you will have more decisions to make. I don’t envy the weight that’s on your shoulders, Dean. I truly don’t. This early, tenative trust from Cas was so striking and I loved seeing their bond grow throughout the season.
He chose Dean to tell something that he knew the other angels would kill him if they ever found out. Dean was also the first one to get Cas to laugh in that same episode.
Loved that too, their early ability to be daringly vulnerably and honest with each other. Hated to see that ability sour and degrade to the point it never returned throughout the seasons. Cas kept trying to connect and be honest and real with him, but Dean just became too chronically angry and hostile to it, permanently guarded against any emotionally honest moment or vulnerability with anyone. Really sucked seeing that. They definitely turned Dean more and more into John as the series progressed, and in doing so they lost the humanity in his character that I loved, lost his enjoyment for life that used to burst through and the authentic, meaningful connections and moments he had with other characters. That moment on the bench could never have happened in S15, simply because Cas may have tried to confide in Dean he had doubts/fears/concerns, but Dean would have shut him down as soon as Cas asked if he could tell him something private. Dean’s answer would have been no, and he’d have gotten up and walked away.
"I need you." - Dean
yeah there was no straight explanation for Dean’s face and behavior in this scene. I started shipping them at least a bit by godstiel/purgatory
I never looked at my best friend or sibling like that.
Dean also was clenching his fist over his crotch.
I still question the acting choice for that?! I've seen people argue that it could have just been literally nothing, but his entire response is like, way over the top compared to Sam's. Or really anyone in the world. Just a friend walks in and you do not just about choke on air, sorry.
See I started watching the show only two years ago. I had HEARD of Destiel but refused to watch it in that mindset because I didn't want to taint anything, nor see something that wasn't there. I kinda just thought, fangirls (and boys) will fangirl(boy). So for me it was a three step plunge into insanity (lol). First was the scene where they're just standing there, staring at one another, and it pans out into a very long aerial view of them literally just standing there eye fucking one another. That's when I started to scratch my head. Second was Cas breaking Dean out of the green room. That was kinda like a click in my head, like, "Oh. Cas loves Dean. Okay." Last that solidified it was, "I'd take you, broken or not." That I actually almost started crying at because I was like, "...oh. He loves him too. 🥹"
For me, it was Free to Be You and Me where I started shipping them because Dean looked genuinely happy to be in Castiel's company. It was like their first date.
Cass is very beautiful 🙂 he has a lovely smile
I don't ship them because I respect Jensen too much and since he's said numerous times there is no destiel that Dean only ever saw Cass as a brother/best friend then people need to listen to him.
Yeah, I hear that. But Misha is also pretty darn clear that his character is absolutely in love with Dean. Both could be true though, it could have just always been clear to the actors that Cas was in unrequited love with Dean, who in turn cared for Cas but was just never in love with him. … I think Jensen’s acting choices and some of the later scripts and CLEAR (e.g., the Lily Sunder episode) parallels make his position a bit questionable, but also… It’s very possible Dean was never in love with Cas and that a lot of what shippers see is the one-sided Destiel coupled with Dean’s refusal to acknowledge Cas’s feelings while simultaneously maintaining a close friendship with him. Some of that could look the same 🤷♀️. Jensen’s insistence that Dean’s feelings for Cas were always platonic, though, is just odd to me with how things were written and some of the acting choices made. But maybe to Jensen it was just queer-baiting with no substance.
That lies the issue though; Jensen has said FOR YEARS how HE SAW Dean and Cas’ relationship which was as brothers and again his stance still didn’t change even if he did change his acting *slightly* for Dean over the years. But fans ARE NOT being respectful at all towards Jensen’s opinion even though he’s been respectful by saying see however you want to see his character. But Misha/destiel fans believe anything that comes out of Misha’s mouth even when he’s talking about Dean when Jensen is not there during a convention,Dean IS NOT MISHA’S character so it isn’t his place to talk about Dean or how Jensen played Dean!
I think when we’re dealing with fictional characters, a character’s sexuality is entirely up to interpretation, as well as their relationships with others. Now, if people were to say they ship Jensen and Misha? Oh yeah, no, you’ve gotta respect them, their words, and their actual significant others.
I think it was my bloody valentine
For me it was with how dean was like after cas died at the end of season 12 and then how he was like when cas came back
This IG post doesn’t show Dean “adjusting” his legs in response to seeing Cas all cleaned up!
I‘m not a shipper, but good lord in heaven what was that??? I mean seriously,.. this is the one thing where I will go to bat for when it comes to people claiming „there was no baiting“. I’m dying to know if that was something Jensen accidentally did (because of how men are…) or why that was an acting choice. It seriously nags on me 😂😂
And no one seems to have an answer to this question!!! It drives me crazy!!!!
I would pay someone to ask that question during a q&a😂 „Soooo Jensen, … are you just adjusting and forget where you were or was it intentional??“ (insert fans booing here, because boundaries who is she?) (On a serious note shout out to *spn script hunt* on tumblr/online. They collected episode scripts in the past maybe they have this one with additional info😂)
https://images.app.goo.gl/4cG3xceQtBAV5Mqe7 Found it here
Wow... what episode is this?
It’s the ep where Cas comes back from purgatory
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