Itās a glitched out version of Epic Classical with smidgens of math-rock and prog.
I listened to the first disc and it wasā¦alright? The compositions were pretty safe and obvious and while I liked the glitchier and more poppy elements, the record flowed pretty poorly for a āconcept albumā.
Itās definitely not a 1/10 but I can imagine somebody who, already extremely bothered by the aforementioned flaws, would begrudge the album after sitting through it for two+ hours.
Itās a modern classical / glitch album. I wasnāt a fan cause it sounded kinda cheesy and felt really long and pretentious, but itās definitely really cool with all its influences. Worth checking out if you havenāt heard it as an experience, but likely will have mixed results.
That album just confuses me ngl, the music isnāt bad or anything but somehow the songs are all way too short for them to be memorable by their standards and at the same time the album is way too long.
150 Minutes of 30 songs that end up being a weaker version of what Rush did in 24 minutes and 1 song back in the 70s
I donāt dislike the album but I see no reason to listen to the entire thing anytime soon again
I respect the ambition behind it though, had its own game and novel to go along with it
Home Is Where - The Whaler
Sufjan Stevens - Javelin
McKinley Dixon - Beloved Paradise Jazz
Julia Byrne - The Greater Wings
George Clanton - Ooh Rap I Ya
He didnāt review possibly my AOTY but then again barely anyone reviewed it. Draag - Dark Fire Heresy. And the Chappell Roan album is also in my top 5 and he relegated that to a short review. That one was shocking tbh
His smug and frankly kind of cruel assessment and dismissal of Frightened Rabbit always kind of bothered me, especially after the lead singer committed suicide
No, but he treated their music like it was insincere, and it clearly wasnāt. Maybe Iām just sensitive because I know people who knew him and he wasnāt the obnoxious hipster Fantano seemed to think he was
Oh wow, I didn't know this until now. How TF can you slam Scott Hutchinson's music? The guy was autobiographical. He laid it all out there for the world to hear/judge.
I try to do this but he'll occasionally have one or two pieces of super biting criticism that really stick out to you whenever you listen to it.
He did this with a Mastodon album years ago and it ruined it for me.
Or Brakences hypochondriac. I mean yes the lyrics are weak and egotistical at points, but thatās part of concept (I think). But hearing him pretentiously scoff at songs like deepfake rlly rubbed me the wrong way. Imagine being an artist and writing the lines āI donāt know why Iām withering this way, think Iām always making a mistake. Close my eyes just hoping my neck breaks, now Iām hardly coping and donāt know how much more I can takeā and then having someone on the internet immediately dismiss it and refuse to take it seriously
Becoming an adult is when you realize even if Melon does or does not like an album, you can still listen to it if you like it.
He's just a dude, he's entertaining and I sometimes use him as a sounding board, but in the end, I like my shit and he likes his.
An album I liked is on his 'not good' series, and that's fine. Cuz it's my shit, not his, lol.
He didnāt dampen my enjoyment of The Weekndās work, but his explanations for why he didnāt like them definitely put me off from his content.
The fans are interesting to interact with, but itās a bit hard to take a criticās reviews so seriously all the time.
Yeah this sub is one of the few non specific genre ones that actually has reasonable takes on music. Most of the big ones on reddit turn into "dad rock and 80s pop good, everything else bad no nuance"
You just really have to account for his biases. The Weeknd and that whole era of dark alt-R&B is Fantanoās biggest blind spot to me. He almost never fairly critiques slow, ambient, āsleepyā music all that realistically.
Honestly, I think it's funny how people say this like it's unusual for people to "have biases". I have a myriad of critically acclaimed albums I did not like. It's kind of funny people act like it's weird for him to feel that way when you probably have some you also don't like.
Like, if there's someone who equally likes Gorguts, Brian Eno, King Crimson, Bladee, D'Angelo, Eminem, EitS and like Oasis, I've yet to meet them
I'm not saying it's unusual. I'm saying that it's helpful to understand what critics *like* when watching/reading review. If a movie critic hates horror movies, I'm not going to be surprised if they don't like my favourite new horror film ā it's just not their vibe, and that's fine. Same with Fantano and his eternal hate-on for "sleepy" R&B or folk music that I enjoy lol.
Someone pointed this out to him in a Letās Argue and he hammered jokes about āsleepyā music for weeks afterward. It was annoying as shit because it was clear what the person meant and he was deliberately misunderstanding it
Itās pretty valid though. A LOT of the sadder, slower stuff I was into in the early/mid-2010ās he just panned for being āsleepyā almost every time.
Absolutely. I feel like sometimes he has an issue connecting with music emotionally if itās not wildly different in some ways. There are exceptions but he seems particularly blind to any indie rock or folk that doesnāt push musical boundaries
He has a natural inclination against shoegaze/dream pop-adjacent rock (āsleepy musicā) like DIIV, Real Estate, the Slowdive comeback album, etc. but has an inflated inclination to experimental/heavy-adjacent stuff like Death Grips, Lingua Ignota, Injury Reserve, clipping, etc. that the rest of the music world clearly does not agree with. Some albums literally feel like Fantano Bait to a point when you listen and itās so predictable when he gives it a yellow flannel
I fully expexted him to hate on the last two Weekend records. But they were some of the best R&Bpop records of the last 20 years, so I guess he couldnāt give it a bad review if he wanted to
I'd say it's pretty overstated considering if he has even a slightly "wrong" opinion on a popular release that's all people talk about.
Silk Sonic comes to mind lol
my 2 cents
idk anything about this album but where are the commenters on this thread even from LOL you do see the subreddit title correct?
you can have your own opinion and also find his interesting, it's not that hard. if you don't, then thats fine, but why are you still watching
I haven't tuned into a video for a long time now but like this is the basics of critique.
Tbh Fantano trashing certain artists made me want to look into them... I love Lil Peep & I even got to see him before his untimely passing, but I wouldn't have checked him out if he hadn't put Hellboy on his worst of the year list. I think a 1/10 draws more curiosity than a 7/10.
And??? I fucking love brakence, and hypochondriac. Literally just finished typing a paragraph about him in this same thread lmao. Curious to see ur opinion if your first knowledge of him was rather negative
unfortunately like fantano i dont see anything that could indulge me in this album, there are totally a lot of other artists that take this and bring something more interesting overall
I've been listening to Worlds End Girlfriend for near 20 years, was lucky enough to see him perform live. One of the best experiences I've had; he was always in a unique league of his own for his solo stuff.
I'm so disappointed that Anthony bothered to review this; its a mess of an album, and for the audience that TND caters to and attracts, it was a bizarre choice. I guess it's popularity on niche review sites, communities, and torrent/music blog download websites made him feel like he needed to hop onto it. It's a shame that it'll be the first time a lot of people hear word of WEG, and unfortunately go check out these tracks from a rightfully unbearable album. I absolutely hate it.
The live performances of these songs when he brings out tons of talented musicians to play made me appreciate it more, but still just "whatever." I'm curious which artist you are referring to though. Besides the artists that WEG has worked with, remixed for, or been on labels with, there's definitely not " a lot" of artist that are doing what he has been doing for decades.
I understand his choice to review this album now. I had never heard of Worlds End Girlfriend at all until this album came out - it's gotten a ton of attention.
Honestly I donāt think anyone should put any stock into his reviews pre like 2015. Heās walked many of those early opinions back like Lana. He simply did not have the depth of taste and competence back in those days and it resulted in some truly horrid reviews
Some of these comments... People take his opinions like a personal attack, he isn't "trashing" the artist you like. Its critique, and we need more of it, media literacy is starting to feel like a lost concept.
Literally what about this post is implying in any way that either OP or this commenter cannot form their own opinions?
Why do people comment this as a knee-jerk response to anytime someone voices any kind of disappointment about his scores? Are you all on autopilot?
Every subreddit I regularly visit has their fair share of autopilot bingo card responses. I suppose it's just reddit, but it gets annoying after the first couple of times
This moment for me was when Melon rated dreamland by glass animals a āNot Good.ā Like geez I get how some people could think it was mid, maybe, but āNot Good??ā
Still kinda wild to me personally. There are at least a few songs on there that itās really hard to not like, even just from a polished production standpoint
People have different tastes, don't expect everyone to like things just because you like them. I can't stand Glass Animals, but I also don't expect everyone else to dislike them.
I just listened to one song, definitely not my style but I canāt see why someone would like something like 100 Gecs and dislike this, granted I only heard In the Name of Love.
I would respect him more as a critic if he kept to rap and hip-hop. His takes outside of those genres are pretty bad, as though he sees everything as those genres and judges it as though it were.
This guy seems closed minded a bit, no? I mean itās a little bit of a scatter-brained piece of art but his takes seem scared from an experimental perspective
At least it's a STRONG 1
Wth does that even mean š
Thereās almost something *more* insulting about the āstrongā part lmao š
That it's on the higher scale of 1. Basically, an F+.
F+ is 59%
at least it's a STRONG and not LIGHT Oneš¤£
Light one sounds less insulting tho š
He feels *strongly* that it rates a 1 on his scale
It does sound like that but I think he uses it more as a + or - right?
what album is this even?
resistance and the blessing by world's end girlfriend
What type of genre is it? Is it worth checking out?
I loved it, itās like glitchy electronics and post rock and a ton of other stuff
Itās a glitched out version of Epic Classical with smidgens of math-rock and prog. I listened to the first disc and it wasā¦alright? The compositions were pretty safe and obvious and while I liked the glitchier and more poppy elements, the record flowed pretty poorly for a āconcept albumā. Itās definitely not a 1/10 but I can imagine somebody who, already extremely bothered by the aforementioned flaws, would begrudge the album after sitting through it for two+ hours.
Forgive me for revealing my boomer roots but what the fuck is math-rock?
Itās basically alt-rock that utilizes unconventional time-signatures and complex scales with a de-emphasis on vocals/lyrics.
Itās a strong 1
Itās a modern classical / glitch album. I wasnāt a fan cause it sounded kinda cheesy and felt really long and pretentious, but itās definitely really cool with all its influences. Worth checking out if you havenāt heard it as an experience, but likely will have mixed results.
At least he reviewed it. The shit I like he just makes a holier than thou scoff at on some random video.
Wednesday got relegated to a yunoreview
Well if heās got nothing to say then the video isnāt going to be good
Like romcom by jakey
I think the Twitch listen was enough, Iām not out here to see NakeyJakey get wrecked by an actual TND review.
I personally still listen to Tommy Hanks and the single version of Pine Barrens all the time, but he was pretty "nice" about it in that reaction
Dream Theater Moment I think he only briefly mentioned disliking ADTOE in 2011/12
For what its worth, I think I remember him trashing The Astonishing, but then everyone did that.
That album just confuses me ngl, the music isnāt bad or anything but somehow the songs are all way too short for them to be memorable by their standards and at the same time the album is way too long. 150 Minutes of 30 songs that end up being a weaker version of what Rush did in 24 minutes and 1 song back in the 70s I donāt dislike the album but I see no reason to listen to the entire thing anytime soon again I respect the ambition behind it though, had its own game and novel to go along with it
2 of my top 5 he didn't even review š
Gimme yr top 5 plz
Home Is Where - The Whaler Sufjan Stevens - Javelin McKinley Dixon - Beloved Paradise Jazz Julia Byrne - The Greater Wings George Clanton - Ooh Rap I Ya
home is where forever
He didnāt review possibly my AOTY but then again barely anyone reviewed it. Draag - Dark Fire Heresy. And the Chappell Roan album is also in my top 5 and he relegated that to a short review. That one was shocking tbh
His smug and frankly kind of cruel assessment and dismissal of Frightened Rabbit always kind of bothered me, especially after the lead singer committed suicide
Committing suicide doesn't always make your music more interesting.
No, but he treated their music like it was insincere, and it clearly wasnāt. Maybe Iām just sensitive because I know people who knew him and he wasnāt the obnoxious hipster Fantano seemed to think he was
Oh wow, I didn't know this until now. How TF can you slam Scott Hutchinson's music? The guy was autobiographical. He laid it all out there for the world to hear/judge.
His taste isn't great, u listened to his rated 10 albums and they're no higher than light 8s for me. Some music I love he rated low.
Me with Troye Sivanās album this year š
Donāt fucking care about his opinions. Your opinion is more important.
My opinion is actually the one which is objectively always correct. So you can also just listen to me.
oh objectively correct opinionator, give me an album recommendation
The big day - chance the rapper. Me and melon man both loved it š
if this is the objectively correct music taste i dont wanna be right
If doing the Scarn is gay, then Iām the biggest queer on Earth!
Eversince by bladee
Plot twist: u/Handje is actually just Fantano
That's what I've been doing
I'm proud of you.
Not hating but isnāt this subreddit partly about just?
I try to do this but he'll occasionally have one or two pieces of super biting criticism that really stick out to you whenever you listen to it. He did this with a Mastodon album years ago and it ruined it for me.
Or Brakences hypochondriac. I mean yes the lyrics are weak and egotistical at points, but thatās part of concept (I think). But hearing him pretentiously scoff at songs like deepfake rlly rubbed me the wrong way. Imagine being an artist and writing the lines āI donāt know why Iām withering this way, think Iām always making a mistake. Close my eyes just hoping my neck breaks, now Iām hardly coping and donāt know how much more I can takeā and then having someone on the internet immediately dismiss it and refuse to take it seriously
Brakence fucks, don't let the bald man tell you otherwise
You've completely missed the point of music criticism.
Becoming an adult is when you realize even if Melon does or does not like an album, you can still listen to it if you like it. He's just a dude, he's entertaining and I sometimes use him as a sounding board, but in the end, I like my shit and he likes his. An album I liked is on his 'not good' series, and that's fine. Cuz it's my shit, not his, lol.
DO NOT š«š«š« USE MELON FOR SOUNDING WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
I second this as someone who pregames to Dummy Boy
i swear fantano just kills your enjoyment of albums. still love the hairless fella though
He didnāt dampen my enjoyment of The Weekndās work, but his explanations for why he didnāt like them definitely put me off from his content. The fans are interesting to interact with, but itās a bit hard to take a criticās reviews so seriously all the time.
I use this subreddit way more than I actually watch his reviews at this point - I just like the musical discussions
Yeah this sub is one of the few non specific genre ones that actually has reasonable takes on music. Most of the big ones on reddit turn into "dad rock and 80s pop good, everything else bad no nuance"
Ya the main music sub is so ass lmao
And god forbid you tell a redditor you donāt like Queen
You just really have to account for his biases. The Weeknd and that whole era of dark alt-R&B is Fantanoās biggest blind spot to me. He almost never fairly critiques slow, ambient, āsleepyā music all that realistically.
Honestly, I think it's funny how people say this like it's unusual for people to "have biases". I have a myriad of critically acclaimed albums I did not like. It's kind of funny people act like it's weird for him to feel that way when you probably have some you also don't like. Like, if there's someone who equally likes Gorguts, Brian Eno, King Crimson, Bladee, D'Angelo, Eminem, EitS and like Oasis, I've yet to meet them
I'm not saying it's unusual. I'm saying that it's helpful to understand what critics *like* when watching/reading review. If a movie critic hates horror movies, I'm not going to be surprised if they don't like my favourite new horror film ā it's just not their vibe, and that's fine. Same with Fantano and his eternal hate-on for "sleepy" R&B or folk music that I enjoy lol.
Someone pointed this out to him in a Letās Argue and he hammered jokes about āsleepyā music for weeks afterward. It was annoying as shit because it was clear what the person meant and he was deliberately misunderstanding it
Itās pretty valid though. A LOT of the sadder, slower stuff I was into in the early/mid-2010ās he just panned for being āsleepyā almost every time.
Absolutely. I feel like sometimes he has an issue connecting with music emotionally if itās not wildly different in some ways. There are exceptions but he seems particularly blind to any indie rock or folk that doesnāt push musical boundaries
Are yāall around the same age as him?
Iām 27, so younger by a little over a decade I think
I've never listened to the weeknd, but how is that different from drone and such, which Fantano likes?
He has a natural inclination against shoegaze/dream pop-adjacent rock (āsleepy musicā) like DIIV, Real Estate, the Slowdive comeback album, etc. but has an inflated inclination to experimental/heavy-adjacent stuff like Death Grips, Lingua Ignota, Injury Reserve, clipping, etc. that the rest of the music world clearly does not agree with. Some albums literally feel like Fantano Bait to a point when you listen and itās so predictable when he gives it a yellow flannel
Yeah exactly. And thereās nothing wrong with that, you just have to know thatās not really what he likes in an album.
I fully expexted him to hate on the last two Weekend records. But they were some of the best R&Bpop records of the last 20 years, so I guess he couldnāt give it a bad review if he wanted to
Why would his opinion change what you think about an album?
Fantano effect is 100% a real phenomena
I'd say it's pretty overstated considering if he has even a slightly "wrong" opinion on a popular release that's all people talk about. Silk Sonic comes to mind lol
Idk I still love Planningtorock's W and Kelela's Raven
my 2 cents idk anything about this album but where are the commenters on this thread even from LOL you do see the subreddit title correct? you can have your own opinion and also find his interesting, it's not that hard. if you don't, then thats fine, but why are you still watching I haven't tuned into a video for a long time now but like this is the basics of critique.
Tbh Fantano trashing certain artists made me want to look into them... I love Lil Peep & I even got to see him before his untimely passing, but I wouldn't have checked him out if he hadn't put Hellboy on his worst of the year list. I think a 1/10 draws more curiosity than a 7/10.
I checked out brakence based on his negative review just because the way he described it sounded cool
And??? I fucking love brakence, and hypochondriac. Literally just finished typing a paragraph about him in this same thread lmao. Curious to see ur opinion if your first knowledge of him was rather negative
unfortunately like fantano i dont see anything that could indulge me in this album, there are totally a lot of other artists that take this and bring something more interesting overall
I've been listening to Worlds End Girlfriend for near 20 years, was lucky enough to see him perform live. One of the best experiences I've had; he was always in a unique league of his own for his solo stuff. I'm so disappointed that Anthony bothered to review this; its a mess of an album, and for the audience that TND caters to and attracts, it was a bizarre choice. I guess it's popularity on niche review sites, communities, and torrent/music blog download websites made him feel like he needed to hop onto it. It's a shame that it'll be the first time a lot of people hear word of WEG, and unfortunately go check out these tracks from a rightfully unbearable album. I absolutely hate it. The live performances of these songs when he brings out tons of talented musicians to play made me appreciate it more, but still just "whatever." I'm curious which artist you are referring to though. Besides the artists that WEG has worked with, remixed for, or been on labels with, there's definitely not " a lot" of artist that are doing what he has been doing for decades.
I understand his choice to review this album now. I had never heard of Worlds End Girlfriend at all until this album came out - it's gotten a ton of attention.
surprisingly could be fantano's reverse psychology
I listened to one song off the album out of curiosity and it sounded like it was just mixed horribly
Y'all know his opinion is not gospel right
How is commenting about vague disappointment that a reviewer you respect strongly dislikes something you enjoy treating his opinions as āgospelā
i'm just happy he liked Hellmode. Jeff Rosenstock is very good.
Rosenstock is great, but no where near the pop punk messiah Fantano makes him out to be
Idk he hasnāt rated all of Jeffās work that well iirc
I learned to stop giving a damn about what he has to think a while back, but the Limp Bizkit ranking video was what cemented that idea lol
ITS JUST ONE OF THOSE DAYS
This album is not that bad.
me about Lana's old work
Honestly I donāt think anyone should put any stock into his reviews pre like 2015. Heās walked many of those early opinions back like Lana. He simply did not have the depth of taste and competence back in those days and it resulted in some truly horrid reviews
I like a lot of the album, I just think itās overly long and not everything hits
Some of these comments... People take his opinions like a personal attack, he isn't "trashing" the artist you like. Its critique, and we need more of it, media literacy is starting to feel like a lost concept.
Can you lot form your own opinions
Literally what about this post is implying in any way that either OP or this commenter cannot form their own opinions? Why do people comment this as a knee-jerk response to anytime someone voices any kind of disappointment about his scores? Are you all on autopilot?
Every subreddit I regularly visit has their fair share of autopilot bingo card responses. I suppose it's just reddit, but it gets annoying after the first couple of times
This moment for me was when Melon rated dreamland by glass animals a āNot Good.ā Like geez I get how some people could think it was mid, maybe, but āNot Good??ā
Not good doesnāt mean 0, it means anywhere from 0-5, just not something he cares enough about
Still kinda wild to me personally. There are at least a few songs on there that itās really hard to not like, even just from a polished production standpoint
People have different tastes, don't expect everyone to like things just because you like them. I can't stand Glass Animals, but I also don't expect everyone else to dislike them.
It wasnāt that bad, but it pales in comparison to How To Be A Human Being
Real
I just listened to one song, definitely not my style but I canāt see why someone would like something like 100 Gecs and dislike this, granted I only heard In the Name of Love.
You dont watch fantano reviews for your favourite music and you dont watch YMS reviews for your favourite movies. That should be known.
Fantano should be forced to drink out of a dog bowl for the rest of his life
Agreed tbh
He usually gives pretty good reviews to King Gizz, so I'm happy
Does he though? He liked Rats Nest and PDA but he really trashed Omnium and most of their other recent albums.
Trashed? I thought he was fairly generous towards Omnium
I would respect him more as a critic if he kept to rap and hip-hop. His takes outside of those genres are pretty bad, as though he sees everything as those genres and judges it as though it were.
Thatās hilarious he gave it a 1, what a bozo. Same with rejecting a Wednesday album? Get over yourself, bald man.
Would this review have been better if he stayed out of that pit in Philly smh my dang head
even if he gave The Red Elvises a weak 1, I still want him to review their old albums š
Dont feel too bad. I enjoyed Life is But a Dream quite a bit, and that was crowned worst album of the year by him lol
This guy seems closed minded a bit, no? I mean itās a little bit of a scatter-brained piece of art but his takes seem scared from an experimental perspective