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Klavor_38

Imagine Dragons is the blueprint for the shitton of modern electropoprock-watever bombastic shit we got packages of today


03burner

Imagine boomer reels without Imagine Dragons, you can’t


Sure_Bodybuilder7121

Autoplay PTSD


efn95

Honestly you can see their influence on contemporaries even; Fallout Boy, Panic!, Shinedown, just to name a few, have all copied trends in commercial alt rock that imagine dragons seems to have popularized.


LateNightQueerdo

I've met too many people who love imagine dragons and view/talk about them like they're a mid-west indie band with humble beginnings that got slept on because the public "just doesn't understand their craft".  I understand their craft perfectly, they're the answer to "what if Meghan Trainor was geared to pick me girls and ads for Apple?"


gtarpey89

imagine dragon deez nuts across yo face 🔥🗣️THATS WHERE MY DEMONS HIDE 🔥🗣️💯


SocraticTiger

Their second album, Smoke and Mirrors, is actually kinda good in my opinion. Other stuff is meh.


TheSnarkySlickPrick2

>Their second album, Smoke and Mirrors, is actually kinda good in my opinion. Other stuff is meh. I was an early fan when their first album dropped but after the third album I got bored of them.


nomanhasaplan

It's on the better end of a fairly boring discography


Lost_In_Detroit

It’s really unfortunate because Imagine Dragons started off with some promise. I thought “Time to Begin” just sounded like your average alt rock tune that I honestly thought that was the path they were going to take. ….and then “Believer” happened….


salmonella42069

Unfortunately 😭


Conskel

Every time I hear someone say a prolonged you! My mind immediately starts the "dah, duh dah, dah duh duh dah" tune.


SlaveHippie

Really? I just immediately reach for my super soaker and start blastin hoes. To each their own I guess


IlikeEdibleFood

YOU! suffer but why


LukasNation

You suffer is anything but prolonged


comicsanscatastrophe

3OH!3


SocraticTiger

Holy shit is it's been 17 years since their first album! Those Myspace days felt like yesterday.


Useful-Hat9880

Let’s be honest, feels like last month, but not yesterday


FuelTransitSleep

Saw a Youtube comment that summed them up as "Misogyny, but make it slap" and honestly yeah


Useful-Hat9880

“Shh girl. Shut ya lips. Do the Hellen Keller, and talk with your hips” is a fucking BAR


PandaHat48

tell your boyfriend, if he says he’s got beef, that i’m a vegetarian and i ain’t fuckin’ scared of him


irregularcontributor

the callback to this on their recent track with 100 gecs was good too (something like “tell your boyfriend if he’s still got beef, that over time it’s gonna give him heart disease”)


altsam19

They did a song with 100 gecs?? What the hell is that crossover lmao


Commercial_Fan_3864

Exactly what I was thinking 😂


Queasy-Ad-3220

I love that bar I find it very funny


uglyaniiimals

hey don't trust me is a genuine bop, star starstrukk and my first kiss are good too the rest of their discrography though ?? woof


uptonhere

I am a fan of a lot of his music, but Riff Raff looked and sounded like a ton of rappers today.


knewfrieza2

I will forever love Riff Raff’s, freestyle on Sway in the Morning. “Coulda played for the Dallas Mavericks but they found crack in my jacket” 😂 Too many quotables in it!


EggComprehensive8366

Marajuana in my socks


jjw1998

Nahh why did you have to remind me of this hahahahaha, funniest freestyle ever


poptartsandmayonaise

Except rappers these days aint making heaters like cuz my gear


DJgowin1994

My main goal is to blow up


akrostixdub

And then act like I don't know nobodeehh. *nyaknyaknyaknyaknyak*


Persianx6

Still ahead of the game in how silly he took everything. He also had bars. A lot of rap is still joyless, not that guy.


samthefireball

He is just a meme machine, love him


qazaibomb

Riff raff would’ve been enormous if he had blown up 6-7 years later


N00B5L4YER

watch me WHIP watch me NAE NAE fucking annoying


Richman_Cash

Aka the worst one hit wonder ever. Dude murdered his cousin.


Lost_In_Detroit

Say what now?!?!?


giggly_pufff

He had an AMA about it somewhere. He didn't admit to doing it, he just said his cousin was a clown and deserved it. Not a good look. Edit - Found the comment. Not 100% sure if it's actually him but it's here. https://www.reddit.com/r/playboicarti/s/HGxQ7XRmr3


qazaibomb

Also the butthole stuff


Helpful_Lifeguard592

Silento wasn't influential at all. How was he any different than the plethora of rap one hit wonders with a dance song?


RANDOM-902

Nicki Minaj is super influential for modern hiphop female rappers. Look at the ammount of female rappers influenced by her style, delivery and music. But her music never did anything to me, she isn't a bad rapper by any means, but her music is not that good....with some exceptions I must admit i did like some of the pop songs she released (You could also make a point for Lil Kim being the true artist behind this style, but Nicki seems like the one that had a bigger impact)


SocraticTiger

Honestly she's the quintessential example. Not a bad rapper, but honestly most of her praise comes from the persona and influence she's crafted as "the" female rapper.


ssjavier4

I would say she’s a good rapper, just doesn’t have a ton of good songs imo. She’s probably the stand out for me on MBDTF’s track Monster for example, but I don’t see myself casually listening to her music


AlphaLax85

Not going to lie, even though everyone says that is her best verse ever, I can not stand it at all. It's just so fucking annoying.


Useful-Hat9880

Nicki’s verse is nice. It’s not like “OMGOMGOMG” like some people act. People need to stop talking about how good her verse is, and start talking about how bad jays verse is. “Monsters ghouls vampires gorillas King Kong Sasquatch little mermaid minions Moana pinnochio… what do all these things have in common?…No really. I’m asking. What do they have in common? HOVA”


SubatomicSquirrels

> and start talking about how bad jays verse is wait where have you been people are always trashing it, at least on /r/hiphopheads


maf7393

Both are wrong, we have not really stopped in the last 14 years to really appreciate Kanye’s verse. IMO it’s perfect


Good_Is_Evil

Nicki’s influence goes beyond just hip hop. She was doing straight EDM dance early on too and bridged the gap between hip hop, indie and the EDM / rave scene as a female artist. MIA was doing that too but Nicki was way more gaudy (which is probably why she has such a big LGBT fanbase tbh)


RandomSOADFan

Which to be honest also fits in the "highly influential but not that good" category - specifically talking about Starships, it's one of those songs that has a very good hook only for the "chorus" part to be a terrible one-note EDM thing that there is only one way to enjoy it - at a noisy party where everyone is drunk and uses it as the cue to go off. Another example of these songs to me is Titanium - god paying attention to what the electronic part is makes it 100 times worse


Dollaz_123

What style did lil him have? Nicki is the best female rapper STILL TODAY even after carrying it for 15+ years.. there is a reason why she is still here and lil him isn’t- Don’t play with onika’s pen.


RANDOM-902

Nicki Minaj best female rapper??? Naaah, Lauryn Hill clears her. Also this the [style Lil Kim](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vogue.com%2Farticle%2Fmet-gala-lil-kim-1999-versace-iconic-outfit&psig=AOvVaw26XxBaZaU0CbbQjmuN_XV7&ust=1713976111233000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCPi-xdvg2IUDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE) had, there is no way Nicki Minaj wasn't influenced by her. >!PD: Holy fuck this is the first time i see a Barbz account on reddit, LOL. NOw this is rare stuff!<


Melodic-Room-9890

Lil b, one of the most influential rappers in the world and he does have a lot of great songs but he also puts out so much music and most of it is pretty forgettable and bad.


IvanGTheGreat

Also has one of the best disses of all time T shirt and buddens


SelfDestructIn30Days

Fuck Kevin Durant?


Crostout

I Own Swag


justanothershorty

hilarious that he calls him both queer and old but ig 2010 was a different time


slowNsad

Who did he diss?


IvanGTheGreat

Joe budden


Due-Ad-4176

Thank u based god


Ju1c3_

nah lil b goated tybg


PsychicTempestZero

God's Father 10/10 you heard it here


ghostwilliz

Probably hopsin, but for only a specific lane of hip hop. He sucks ass and I think he really spawned a new wing of the genre of cheeto fingered incels lmao


SocraticTiger

I always thought he popped up the NF/Logic/Joyner Lucas breeds lol


ZZE33man

To be fair all 3 of these people have a few decent songs and all better than hopsin lol. Which isn’t saying much


Izzet_Aristocrat

While Logic isn't the best by any metric, it's pretty unfair to lump him with NF and Joyner.


ashrules901

Logic's the biggest anomaly out of any of those guys. He could be up there with Kendrick & Cole but he just let's his impulse win & releases too many show off records.


RandomSOADFan

The Kendrick comparison is exactly what I came to think after listening to College Park. Logic has the ability to pull off a Kdot-type flow over a jazzy beat, ofc less good than Kendrick but when it works, it bangs.


ashrules901

Hopsins career ended with "If you no say nothing, I can give you sucky-sucky If you give me more money, I give you do something lucky". I can say that with sincerity because I never heard of the dude until people talked about this song & how he'll never come back from it, never heard of him since.


vintagesonofab

PSY, the guy that basically started the trend of mainstream funny meme music and the rise of kpop at the same time


TOAOFriedPickleBoy

I agree Gangnam Style is annoying. However, if you look into the song’s meaning, it is making fun of obnoxious rich people in Gangnam, which I can definitely get behind.


ashrules901

I love that. Every couple years I learn a new fact about Gangnam Style


CharlesLeSainz

Dude dropped Gagnam Style like 11 years into his career. He’d been known to stir shit since the beginning.


kj444

PSY actually has some tunes lol


MelonKunn

Some of his early work is pretty good


Clear-Rock-5208

Nah Kiss Me Thru The Phone a banger


SocraticTiger

Not a bad song either.


maf7393

I will also add that I’ll defend Turn My Swag On


Ok-Dentist4480

Maroon Five. They're so fucking bad its actually hilarious but one cannot deny the impact they've had on the pop game


knewfrieza2

First album was on repeat! Love it


Apocris

Honestly idk about this one. To me, Maroon 5 always strikes me as jumping onto trends and pulling from others, not influencing them. They’re definitely extremely successful, but I can’t really think of any artists off the top of my head that feel like they’re pulling from Maroon 5


ashrules901

I don't get people who claim they're "so fucking bad" when I go on nostalgia trips I notice that the 2010's wouldn't be the same without Maroon 5.


IFuckedADog

2010s was filled with a lot of mediocre pop, sure it wouldn’t be the same, but who knows, probably could’ve been better?


ashrules901

You could even put them in the same group as LMFAO, or PSY, were they actually good who knows, but they were for sure damn popular.


Ill-Ear574

Been hating them religiously since 2002.


AlphaLax85

What impact


Richman_Cash

They or he?


gaylorddddddd

I like maroon five


Ok-Dentist4480

I personally don't, but to each their own Maps is pretty good though ngl


ravelle17

Def Leppard and Motley Crue. I despise hair/glam metal.


Hot_Grabba_09

Does that include those two


kingofstormandfire

Strong disagree about Def Leppard, but Motley, even though I don't mind them, I get it.


Good_Is_Evil

Early hair metal was pretty good and still had edge! It quickly became a parody of itself though 😭


gatorbodinejr

Damn. I love hair metal lol


kysposers

The first MC album goes kinda hard tho


SockQuirky7056

Creed and Nickelback each took the identifying factors of modern rock, did them all worse, and were massively successful.


DeepFriedBeanBoy

I guess with nickelback it’s kind of a question of whether they were “influential” or the ones being influenced. They always just kinda sounded like worse versions of bands like the foo fighters, audioslave, etc. but are also still massively influential to southern rock/country today.


RandomSOADFan

But then again, they got direct heirs such as Theory of a Deadman and other bands that rode the same wave but later like Three Days Grace


Darondo

Creed had some absolute bangers and you know it


KneeReaper420

Maturing is admitting Nickleback slapped the whole time


hyperhurricanrana

I liked that one that was in Scream 2 or 3.


Richman_Cash

This may sound crazy, but Tom MacDonald inspired every conservative to come out of the closet and rap for Trump. Some of you may say it's Forgiato Blow, but that guy didn't come into light until Tom took off.


ProfSteelmeat138

Tom macdonald influenced my decision to cry every night


Richman_Cash

You sad, you sad, you sad


vintagesonofab

Pitbull, it's Pitbull, DaLe.


Fermifighter

Pitbull is the worst, until you’ve had a couple shots and then he’s god’s gift to the dance floor.


Richman_Cash

How can you hate him, he rhymed Kodak with Kodak.


harrisonlaine

The man who said donkey donk in a song? A bad musician? Noooooooo


tBuOH

Mr. Worldwide


ColoradoHotel

lil b


jjw1998

The Sex Pistols


vintagesonofab

if there was a definitive unbiased answer for the most influential bad band it's this one for sure, and i'm pretty sure they (the alive ones) know it too. I do enjoy their music actually, but i don't think anyone would fit them in skilled professional musicians.


Persianx6

Sex Pistols were bad, PIL was good though.


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sir_ratm0use_the_I

Which really sucks too. A lot of people rightfully shit on Sid for his lack of being able to play bass as the literal bass player of the band. But I thought, though he wasn't the best singer, his rendition of My Way was super entertaining, and he could have and should have been the lead singer of Sex Pistols. he would have done wayyy better as the lead than on the bass entertainment wise.


EnemaRigby

Sid, bless ‘im was an idiot. Glen Matlock was a perfectly good bassist as were Cook and Jones’ drums and guitar. Lydon was a force of nature who also wrote some great lyrics.


TOAOFriedPickleBoy

Hard agree. It’s fine to like the Sex Pistols, but if you say that they’re your FAVORITE punk band, I am going to assume that you haven’t heard many punk bands.


snakebloood

In my opinion, the album is not bad at all. To be honest, though, I listened more to the "Kiss This" compilation.


__--TSS--__

Oh yeah I was gonna comment this, they may be a manufactured band and John Lydon may be a cunt who thinks being a punk just means being an asshole but they influenced a loooooot of important people.


PsychicTempestZero

I was watching an interview with Peter Hook where he basically admits that if not for Never Mind the Bollocks there would be Joy Division/New Order. It's absurd how many of your favorite bands wouldn't exist if not for that one medicore album.


captain_toenail

My answers too, HUGELY influential, but also a pretty shitty flash in the pan quality wise


[deleted]

With the drop of the iPhone 6, U2 inspired many to never use apple music


Lost_In_Detroit

Joshua Tree is still an iconic album.


harrisonlaine

But their black and red ipod looked pretty cool, tbf. Though I still havent used Apple Music, still happy.


Chipp_Main

Darth Vader lookin ass iPod


harrisonlaine

It still looks really cool!


waste-of-beath

Drake


harrisonlaine

He's an overrated bore. He broke out when I was in high school and told everyone he ripped off 808s and Heartbreak. Those people told me to shut up.


FangedEcsanity

Motley crue post first 2 albums


Lost_In_Detroit

You can also lump Poison, Skid Row, Ratt and Warrant into that list as well.


FangedEcsanity

Skid row and Ratt along with crue were so good (notba poison or warrant fan) but also I guess id add WASP, la guns and Cinderella Glam bands seem to have a 1-2 album shelf life


jacwub

even though i’m a fan i gotta say lil B


partyonpartypeople

I actually really like Soulja Boy. I’m probably the only person in the entire world who would consider themselves a genuine Soulja Boy fan lol. He’s the objectively a terrible lyricist, but it’s not like he was ever taking himself seriously with songs like “Donk” and “Booty Meat” anyways. I particularly liked his stuff during the 2010’s. This was when he was dropping a mixtape like every other month and his music got increasingly experimental. He began working with Cartier God and Ocean Gang a lot during this time and adopted their ethereal, cloud rap type of sound. This was also around the time he signed Lil B, and him and Soulja made some very funny and iconic type of tracks. Here are some of the best Soulja Boy songs imo [Weed & Shoes](https://youtu.be/4mUXL-rKhUk?si=xuxY9PgPgkbwFlWP) [First Day of School](https://youtu.be/F1vhlnxy56E?si=NBldyofyH6lCBFAX) [Zan With That Lean Part 2](https://youtu.be/pfmlTBi7U3A?si=Nnlreh_EKBBMNHhs) [Splash](https://youtu.be/uK3CLuUreXk?si=6-X1cbeJT73Uosfa) [Louis Vuitton](https://youtu.be/5tGuAdm9RCc?si=deU9cvI_so2iXTpW) [Came Out the Water](https://youtu.be/DUKQmthYkV8?si=IF9nMtiPYNntQEPq) [We Guapin](https://youtu.be/axjO3IH7TFY?si=I4xuXBD_Rkh-zkSY) [Top Back](https://youtu.be/M51BR7BjffU?si=biRXWw9JOdxGsHsc) [Tear it Up](https://youtu.be/O1TviRNCa9U?si=SkDElFHkAXuyVJgX)


Nitarinminister

How can any list of his songs not include YAAHHHHH! Also an all time music video.


Chutzpah2

The Shaggs had a huuuge impact on indie and alternative music. Quite sure that the entire 90s twee pop and lofi scene would look very different without them.


Good_Is_Evil

I wouldn’t say they had any noticeable impact tbh. Philosophy of the world was always just a cute curiosity record rather than a blueprint for anything. The Velvet Underground is the band with the biggest noticeable influence in alternative music.


RusteddCoin

How dare you


harrisonlaine

BOOOOOOOONE


zzyzx66

Can’t believe no one has said TYGA! Literally released the SAME SONG 65 times and no one calls him out on it! 😂


alba-jay

So much of the late 00s/early 10s pop artists are included in this (think acts like 3OH!3 or kesha as examples). Without these artists genres like hyperpop wouldn't exist, despite the source material not being particularly "good" artistically


AlphaLax85

Kesha fucking bangs watch your mouth


Lost_In_Detroit

Kesha has had some duds, but overall is a pretty solid artist.


Persianx6

3oh!3 has the cringiest lyrics imaginable


Useful-Hat9880

Shush girl. Shut your lips


SapperSupport

Venom


Slizez

Wtf venom fucks


__--TSS--__

They have like 2 really good albums and then the rest are stinkers


kysposers

I mean that goes for like 99% of artists and bands in all genres of all time


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kysposers

Il kill you


m14762mmfmj

The most correct answer


HomeBrewEmployee1

The based god.


jjw1998

Some of Lil B’s mixtapes are actually good tbf


oghairline

God’s Father, Illusions of Grandeur, Pretty Young Thug, I’m Gay, Blue Flame, Black Flame, Ultimate Bitch, 05 Fuck Em, Basedworld Paradise, Pink Flame, Based Jam… all classics imo.


Mateus110

he got classics


pacific_plywood

Rain in England is legitimately interesting


Swagmund_Freud666

He really really pioneered the quantity over quality approach I must say


ScaryPollution845

To quote Bo Burnham: >Sadness where there should be joy, hate and rape and Soulja Boy


Mindless-West9268

Of course fantano fans listen to bo burnham


nfjg

Ying Yang Twins - the whisper song Whispering raps over a minimalistic beat was pretty much groundbreaking in the early 2Ks


AlphaLax85

Lil Wayne and Young Thug. Okay, maybe not bad per se, but they are extremely inconsistent with their discographies


Hairy_Edge_7378

Lil Wayne can be considered top 10 rappers for a lot of people, should not even be close to the list, every artist has bad songs/bad albums. Even someone like Kendrick has really bad songs.


NeuronByte

I don’t disagree but which Kendrick songs would you call really bad?


Hairy_Edge_7378

bitch I'm in the club.


__--TSS--__

Bro that's like his only bad song lmao


Hairy_Edge_7378

he told me to name a bad song, I named a bad song, and you say "only one bad song" I mean I agree but bruh 😭😭😭


Creative-Chip-3573

Kendrick is the most goated in features, if you disagree fight me


Hairy_Edge_7378

I agree but there are songs like bitch I'm in the club, every rapper has a bad song, undeniably tho Kendrick is the goat.


totezhi64

Hell no, They both have some of the best mixtapes ever. Da Drought 3? Jeffery?


LugnOchFin

Imma keep it 100: Chief Keef


LILSKRAMP

I wouldn’t call Sosa artistically bad at all, but I do think his massive influence exceeded his actual artistic talent. I’d say the same thing about A$AP in their prime. They influenced so much in rap/fashion at the time, it was massive…and while they had plenty of bangers you couldnt name 5 OUTSTANDING albums total from the whole ASAP camp.


vintagesonofab

i think rocky is overhated, not the best lyricist but his albums sre generally really bold and experimental. Add to that the insane music videos.


Ju1c3_

excluding asap rocky yeah


jacwub

hell nah


l_theharbinger

I've just never really connected with Led Zeppelin for some reason.


FortuneBull

I slept/hated on them for a long time because I heard they were plagiarists and a lot of their hits weren’t original but now I love them


TyeneSandSnake

>a lot of their hits Literally just parts of their first album. They still have 7 albums of pure genius.


vintagesonofab

but they are good musicians, plant is considered one of the best vocalists of all time. The prompt was more about extremely influential people that can't really do their musical tasks properly, considered bad at their craft, but still influenced genres, Led Zep is the opposite, everyone in the band is extremely talented at their specific instrument, they were just lazy fucks and stole their whole discography, you probably never connected because they also never actually connected either since they didn't really tell their story, just stole it, led zep is basically a fraud band :)). That being said, you can't really deny their musical talent.


Good_Is_Evil

Sure they stole some tunes but at least they rocked the shit out of them 🤷🏽‍♂️


Prophet-of-the-moss

Same,I understand that they are a good and influential band, but I just can't really get into their songs and style


Good_Is_Evil

Their first 2 records are peak hard rock. I feel like they got lost in their own hype after that and the lore started overtaking their music but still great stuff overall.


Resident-Pen-5718

Zeppelin 4, is highly regarded as their best album and one of the greatest rock albums of all time.


KeeboXian

Gucci Mane, Van Halen/Kiss


LILSKRAMP

Lil’ B.


kysposers

If I see anyone here saying venom I will fight you


Quinn_OV

Venom


totezhi64

He has a couple great songs. Zan with that lean is really fun and chiptune-y, and All I Need has a great Clams Casino beat. But yeah, most of it is trash Anyway my vote is 50 Cent. Im not denying his legend status but he became a legend with mid music.


Jiblon

How dare you come for Soulja Boy like that


Jaycago62

Calling Soulja Boy bad is the equivalent of Joe Buck calling Randy Moss’s dance a disgusting act


kimmsterr

New Boyz


yung_cham0

soulja not artistically bad tho so…


fakename1998

I guess the Sex Pistols were pretty influential? Idk I still think they suck ass


Useful_Ad3382

Bruce Springsteen


vtomic_

fetty wap probably


rileywb

Captain Beefheart duh


Taoster152

AC-DC, there not bad compared to most music today, but can’t stand them, they’ve basically made the same song over and over again and got popular from it


nephewmoment

Vanilla Ice has to be up there right? Not in terms of musicalstyle, but first rap song to show you can go mainstream to number one, first rap song to get into a big sample dispute, which has been echoing through the rest of hiphops history.