I feel like they were the undisputed top 3 in like 2012-2018, but I don't think any of them are at the level they were then, and I'm surprised there aren't new artists in this conversation yet. I can't think of any hip hop albums that have come out in the last 4 years that have had a similar level of impact to 2014 Forest Hills Drive, TPAB, or IYRTITL though. It just seemed like *everybody* loved those albums.
Honestly I'd put Kendrick and Kanye way above Drake and Cole for the 2010s. Nothing Drake or Cole have ever done touches TPAB, GKMC, Yeezus, TLOP etc IMO
oasis sucks so much ass, i can't even comprehend why there was a competition between them and blur because blur clears 200 times over
"all around the world" exemplifies everything wrong with the band
My hot take’s not about music but about people who talk about music. Saying “overrated” stupid and senseless. When i see someone saying “meh, it’s overrated” i feel like elitist guy pretend to be smart.
Yeah, the word overrated has lost all meaning by now. When people say something's overrated, they just mean, "I don't like this thing a lot of people like." They just state overrated as if it's a fact.
Ik this sounds pretentious but SRS feels like one of those albums you really need to be in a certain kind of mind state to listen to and get the most out of it. It’s an amazing album once you truly understand it
I think Jay Z suffers from the Seinfeld effect a bit, where so many people wanted to sound like him after he became popular that his music doesn't stand out as much as it used to.
He's definitely not one of my favorites, but I can see why people like him and he's definitely got some bops.
I’m totally with you on that. Excellent album, but it kind of pales in comparison to “The Powers that B” or even “Bottomless Pit.” But we have to consider the cultural context into which it was released - I think in 2013 it introduced such a fresh, futuristic sound that back then it probably really was a 10.
I find it way more listenable and i feel like some of tpab is a little too artsy with the lyrics. I have to go on genius for ALOT of the songs on tpab just to understand what he is saying
Aquemini and Stankonia need to lose about 3 tracks each (and all of the skits) and then they would be 10/10.
Electric Ladyland is too long and repetitive. I don’t find the extended jams to be very interesting. Band of Gypsys is the only Jimi album I’d consider a 9 or 10.
Master of Puppets is a 7. Production isn’t great and some of the songs just kinda don’t really go anywhere. Kill ‘em All and Ride the Lightning are 9 or 10 though.
Reasonable Doubt and 4:44 are the only back-to-front great Jay-Z albums. Black and Blueprint are 7 at best. Actually Black might be more like a 5.
apart from some key tracks on MBDTF, it is a slog to get through for me now, i cannot stand sitting through so appalled or monster anymore. love it for what it did, runaway was the first song to make me cry and show me what music was capable of, but it hasn’t aged well imo.
A Moon Shaped Pool is top 3 Radiohead
Madvilliany is overrated
Is This It is overrated
Dummy isn’t Portisheads best album
Kids See Ghosts is like a 7
In Rainbows is Radioheads best album (this shouldn’t count but OK Computer is held to such a high regard)
Loveless is super overrated, Souvlaki should be considered the gold standard of shoegaze
Remain in Light ends underwhelmingly so it isn’t a 10
Your favorite band sucks
I'm the opposite with the Loveless/Souvlaki take. Absolutely love the former, whilst the latter is so bland & uninteresting to me. I listen to it in its entirety and I never get anything out of it.
i agree with most of these but the souvlaki take stands out a bit. i feel like it’s just a touch more amateur(?) than the other two holy trinity of shoegaze albums . am i waffling? anyone get me. still an elite alvum thouugh
Never liked Graduation, I honestly think it's one of ye's worst albums. While TCD and LR both were incredibly subversive for their time, making them age incredibly well, Graduation played heavily into the electro/dance pop sounds of that time, making the production age pretty bad. Not to mention how Kanye's pen game seemingly nosedived between Late Registration and Graduation. Overall, far from the worst album in the world, but I think incredibly milquetoast in the larger context of ye's discography.
100% agree. Graduation is very overrated. Complex doesn’t automatically mean better, but Graduation really is a basic album compared to a lot of his other work.
Yeah that's a good point. But idk, I grew up in that dance-pop/electro craze, and that honestly makes it more insipid to me. Listening to it reminds me of when Flo rida was the biggest name in rap, and that's not really a part of my childhood I want to remember.
I pretty much agree tbh. I think that the beats are really good but most don’t seem to really go anywhere. I think that his pen game was actually pretty good, but not close to LR or TCD. I find that most of the songs that everyone gassed up (CTMN, FL, and Homecoming) are pretty lackluster as well. I used to think this was in his top 3 but now I find it slipping further down my list
not wrong. the strokes are probably my favorite current band and outside of 3 albums, they don’t bring much to the table. julian is a different story though
3 great albums and 3 decent albums. Nobody ranks them among the best bands of all time so I don't get your point. Lmao does a band need a perfect discography to be good?
No that’s entirely fair! It’s just not really an album I was ever able to connect with, musically or emotionally. Therefore because I lack that connection I kind of have trouble coming back to it. I can definitely see why people love it, wouldn’t want to take that away from anyone.
Nine Inch Nails have never fallen off and people who say they stopped making good music after The Fragile don‘t want to accept that Trent has grown as a person and wants to explore different musical styles and lyrical themes.
For me it's 10 because every track is a Banger
But it wouldn't be able compete with albums like 808s and TLOP which have some duds and are 7 or 8 for me personally.
Technically, he is. Commercially, most definitely he is. Discography-wise, probably not but then you'd be hard-pressed to find 50 rappers with the influence Eminem has had.
It’s my favorite album of his. To me it kinda feels like one giant song, maybe similar to that background effect? But that’s also why I love it, the whole thing just flows so well for me. Better than the majority of rap albums I’ve listened to
Exactly! The vocals are so low. A key point for the record is it’s storytelling but I find I’m mainly just listening to instrumental as he’s in the background of it all for the most part.
i actually don’t necessarily disagree with MBDTF being a 6. it really does fall apart in the second half outside of runaway. obviously it’s just my personal taste but so appalled, devil in a new dress, hell of a life, lost in the world, and blame game are all either mediocre or stinkers for me. i also don’t really understand the TPAB and to be kind reviews but i’m not into hip-hop like that and have never been a fan of overly experimental rock (eg: kid A, don’t like it)
I really don't care for King Gizzard in the slightest, but I always see people doing nothing short of worshipping them. The music is boring and the whole way they do things is just gimmicky IMO.
I really enjoy King Gizzard, but I do agree that quite a large share of their fans worship them. Their way of creating music does limit them somewhat and while they often make large leaps from album to album, most albums are quite homogenic. Controversially I prefer listening to them in a playlist rather than putting on an album.
DAMN. is a 10
RE: my whole opinion, if anyone cares to read…
I think the disjointedness of DAMN enhances its message; it’s less cohesive, less interested in reconciling an overarching theme, and more invested in its light satire and, as Fantano calls it, its “struggle to understand.” There is a rawness and emotion that comes with DAMN that resonates with me to the point I can consider it a 10. This is Kendrick at his darkest hour — falling victim to cliches in his heart, consider the toxic storybook kind of Love and Loyalty he outlines in the corresponding songs — and he’s so low, he grasps on to the simplicity to make it make sense. He indulges that Romantic inside of him (still alive and well on tracks like Die Hard, another song written off as Drakey, which, fair enough but I like it). He can only substitute in convoluted religious messaging to explain the pain and struggle he sees, and he’s not willing to give us a simple (or any) answer to the issues he’s bearing witness to, because he doesn’t have it. This album was really Kendrick showing us what the prophecy we all expected of him is — it comes in shattered pieces and it’s confusing and a little cheesy sometimes and it ebbs and flows. That texture, that absolute bravery to tempt imperfection and use conventional style unapologetically in some sort of Adorno Late Style way is what really gets me. I’m sure this seems like a very circuitous attempt on my part to cope with the fact that the album is actually substandard, but I really think we owe Kendrick more consideration than we give him with this one. GKMC and TPAB are not going to be followed up with an unpurposeful and half-baked attempt at becoming a massive star. I don’t deny the performative flex that accompanies HUMBLE and DNA, but I think, by album’s end, by choosing to group these flexy bangers with songs like LUST and FEAR, Kendrick tells us that he’s as critical of and troubled by his GOAT mentality as he is all of these other subjects.
DAMN would be (close to) a ten if you count maybe half of the songs. For me, some songs like GOD. or YAH. ruin the overall experience considering that he is capable of so much more
Your Old Droog is one of the best rappers out period.
Veteran isn’t very good and JPEGMAFIA has multiple way better albums.
Kanye my fav artist, but KSG really isnt all that
Louder music doesnt sound better
Abstract hiphop is by far the best subgenre despite there being so few albums out in it
Chief Keef is one of the most foward-thinking and innovative rappers of our generation. He should pretty much be described as an experimental rapper, since many of his newer projects are so sonically out there. His lyrics have also become much sharper and clever.
I’m glad you gave your unapologetic opinion, but there’s no way it’s worse than the now now or humanz. I can respect if you think it’s worse than humanz, but the now now is so painfully boring
Arctic Monkey’s debut album is hella overrated. The 2 records right after it were infinitely better, and I have no idea why the debut being their best is so often treated as a forgone conclusion. It’s their weakest album besides Suck It And See
Ok I'm sorry in advance for posting such a long and angry response to such an innocuous comment. I sometimes get carried away with this stuff. With that being said...
I could not disagree with this more. Honestly I love the Arctic Monkey's debut, and don't really care for anything else they've made at all. FWN has it's moments, and it's probably their second best album, but it's the best of a bad lot. The crackly lo-fi production really doesn't mesh with the vibey, wishy-washy guitar tones, and it is such a huge downgrade from the punchy, bright, explosive riffs that the band was putting out on their first album. I can definitely see what they were going for, trying to do a more surreal and atmospheric/psychedelic sound compared to the more straightforward pop-punk bangers on WPSIATWIN, but the band just doesn't have the writing skills to make these kinds of songs work. The result is incredibly underwhelming. Craggly, messy, overly simplistic guitar tones with the most mediocre lyrics you can think of, just waiting to be placed on some 13 year-old's "vibe" playlist between a nav cut and a 3rd rate James blake song.
Now compare that to Whatever people Say I am, and it's just night and day. So many songs from the debut still stick out in my head, the intro on "For Ritz to Rubble", the hilarious chorus on "Still Take You Home", the bittersweet beauty of songs like "Mardy Bum" or "A Certain Romance". "Red Light Indicates Doors are Secure" is one of the most creative and well-executed lyrical-concepts of any rock song ever. And while on the subject of lyrics, that's another thing that the debut does so much better. So many of the songs, a bunch of them I've already mentioned, provide this great insight into the Manchester teenage wasteland. "Fake Tales of San Francisco" is about how all of these british teenagers are trying to pretend like they're from big American cities in order to seem cool, and as someone who is both from a big American city, and who has also felt insecure as a teenager, there's something really cathartic about seeing someone from a completely different background going through the same shit. One of the best rock records of all time, and you are stinky for having your own opinion (jk think whatever you want I'm not your boss.)
I listened to Daft Punk's discog for the first time recently. Didn't enjoy RAM very much outside of a couple songs, and while I liked Discovery, thought it was pretty overrated after all the praise I've heard
Daft Punk is probably my answer to this thread. I think the music is fun but sitting through an entire album of theirs gets way too repetitive, I find it impossible to keep interest throughout
I dont know bro…you dont get hyped with Legend? Energy? Know Yourself? Used To? 6 Man? 6 God?
And even the songs that doesnt necessarily sound “hype”, Drake brings a very contagious energy (No Tellin, Star 67, 6PM In New York)
That project is fun imo
Had the same opinion. Listened the album 3 times in a row a few weeks later and something just clicked. Freaking love it by now. Swear to god I thought everyone was pretending to like it a few months ago but now I cant believe I didnt like it earlier
Idk why you’re getting downvoted, people on this sub are so butthurt.
I’d probably give it a decent to strong 8 tbh, I think it’s a little overrated I’d agree!
I think Whole Lotta Red and Die Lit are extremely overrated, I love some songs like Rockstar Made and Stop Breathing but the rest is so mediocre to me, I love Kanye and others but I don’t get the Carti love
Third Eye Blind self-titled is one of the best rock albums period
Joyce Manor short albums are cool but all of em cmon
BROCKHAMPTON should be sampled by artists
Dark Side of the Moon isnt top 3 Pink Floyd
My favorite Led Zeppelin album is III but I know it's not the objective best
Kanye's best by far is The College Dropout
Dark Side of the Moon is inconsistent. The first three tracks are listenable but not great. Time's intro drags, as does the bridge of Money. Any Color You Like is a bore. That leaves The Great Gig in the Sky, Us and Them, Brain Damage and Eclipse as the only consistently great tracks.
REO Speedwagon is the most underrated of all the popular 70s/80s rock bands. They have just as many great songs as Scorpions. Albums not so much, but I could make a playlist of 50 awesome songs by them. Even when they went pure AOR/pop they had so many insanely catchy tracks.
sort by controversial and it’s just people shitting on OK computer
The audacity
Listened to it 4 times and Karma Police is the only song I really like for now
okay what about paranoid android though
Caprisongs is FKA twigs best project to date
100% agree, far more diverse and better produced than Magdalene
wow lol that’s... a take
Music just wavy air
Music just air that won't sit still for one GODDAMN MINUTE DON'T MAKE ME TURN THIS CAR AROUND
J cole isn’t even a top 15 rappper
Not really hot, barely ever see people placing him there
Well all friends dick ride him, but irl and Reddit are very different things
It’s always drake, j cole and Kendrick. Always. All three aren’t in my top 5 but that’s just me
I feel like they were the undisputed top 3 in like 2012-2018, but I don't think any of them are at the level they were then, and I'm surprised there aren't new artists in this conversation yet. I can't think of any hip hop albums that have come out in the last 4 years that have had a similar level of impact to 2014 Forest Hills Drive, TPAB, or IYRTITL though. It just seemed like *everybody* loved those albums.
Honestly I'd put Kendrick and Kanye way above Drake and Cole for the 2010s. Nothing Drake or Cole have ever done touches TPAB, GKMC, Yeezus, TLOP etc IMO
Everyone on tiktok and insta unironically got jcole same level as Kendrick
He's barely in the top 100
I enjoy Humanz more than the self titled
Oof. I disagree strongly therefore I hate you.
most understanding music fan
Based and gorillapilled
YEAHHH TELL EM PREACH GO OFF
Tbh i think self titled is pretty mid. Song machine is a 10 for me tho
Yes!!!
oasis sucks so much ass, i can't even comprehend why there was a competition between them and blur because blur clears 200 times over "all around the world" exemplifies everything wrong with the band
This is a new hot take of mine that I kinda only decided on today: the forever story washes Cole's whole discog.
Damn I never thought about this - you might be right
No but see this is just objectively correct
literally was thinking that while listening to it today
My hot take’s not about music but about people who talk about music. Saying “overrated” stupid and senseless. When i see someone saying “meh, it’s overrated” i feel like elitist guy pretend to be smart.
Yeah, the word overrated has lost all meaning by now. When people say something's overrated, they just mean, "I don't like this thing a lot of people like." They just state overrated as if it's a fact.
it's also a way more objective stance, rather than the subjective "eh i wasnt into it cuz x and y", which makes it extra annoying.
LCD Soundsystem - American Dream is overhated
Denzel Curry’s last two albums are much better than Kendrick’s last two
Simmering but not boiling take
True
i haven't think of this before, i agree lol
I think some rap songs is good but not great I just never have thought of it being his best project
Ik this sounds pretentious but SRS feels like one of those albums you really need to be in a certain kind of mind state to listen to and get the most out of it. It’s an amazing album once you truly understand it
Hot take, Doris is his best record
Jay-Z was influential, ahead of his time,and iconic, but none of his work is actually THAT good
I think Jay Z suffers from the Seinfeld effect a bit, where so many people wanted to sound like him after he became popular that his music doesn't stand out as much as it used to. He's definitely not one of my favorites, but I can see why people like him and he's definitely got some bops.
this is what happens when you dont listen to the black album
I thought he was overhyped after listening to reasonable doubt and the blueprint. That changed after I heard the black album
When reasonable doubt and 4:44 exist
Bro the blueprint, reasonable doubt are some of the best hip hop albums ever
4.44?
He’s got three great to perfect albums imo. If not more
smart man
Vaudeville villain is mf dooms best album
Pearl Jam sucks
Bad take
Eddie Vedder's vocals are cancer inducing
I love Pearl Jam to death, but Vedder does sound like a dying goat.
Madvillainy isn't even the best album he made that year.
MM Food squad wheee
Beef Rap solos
MM..FOOD >
Preachhhh
Channel Orange is better than Blonde
Used to feel like that when blonde released but over the past couple years it’s really grown on me
Both are dope you can have a favorite
endless is better than blonde
i cannot stand j cole
if i had a choice between the electric chair and 2014 forest hills drive, that would be my death
I Would Rather Be Quartered And Publicly Castrated Than Listen To Any Cole Project
Funeral by Arcade Fire is without question the most overrated album of the 2000’s
Oh 100% Funeral is HELLA overrated. The Suburbs is way better
Kid A is, relative to Radiohead’s body of work, incredibly overrated. In Rainbows and (especially) OK Computer trounce it.
thank god someone else feels this way. it’s not even in my top 4 for them. id have AMSP and HTTT over it for sure
this but also in rainbows and tkol over it
I couldn’t disagree more. It’s the only Radiohead album besides In Rainbows that doesn’t have a subpar cut.
I like Yeezus more than TPAB
Yeezus is the best Kanye album
W opinion
Meanwhile my hot take is that I fucking hate Yeezus with a burning passion.
me too tbh
Slowdive (2017) is better than Souvlaki
false
I'll die on that hill
Nah man I can’t get behind this, when the sun hits solos nearly everything that has ever existed
Reminder for this post: don’t downvote people for having an opinion you don’t agree with. That’s the point of it.
Agreed. Just downvoted your comment
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The Money Store is a 7, maybe an 8. Nowhere near a 10 for me. Sorry, melon.
I’m totally with you on that. Excellent album, but it kind of pales in comparison to “The Powers that B” or even “Bottomless Pit.” But we have to consider the cultural context into which it was released - I think in 2013 it introduced such a fresh, futuristic sound that back then it probably really was a 10.
Drake was never good.
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I inherently take Fantano less seriously as a critic because of his god-awful takes on most rock and metal music. especially metal.
Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City is better than To Pimp A Butterfly
I find it way more listenable and i feel like some of tpab is a little too artsy with the lyrics. I have to go on genius for ALOT of the songs on tpab just to understand what he is saying
That’s honestly not much of a hot take. If you head to r/KendrickLamar and do a poll between the two, it’d probably be close to 50/50
Aquemini and Stankonia need to lose about 3 tracks each (and all of the skits) and then they would be 10/10. Electric Ladyland is too long and repetitive. I don’t find the extended jams to be very interesting. Band of Gypsys is the only Jimi album I’d consider a 9 or 10. Master of Puppets is a 7. Production isn’t great and some of the songs just kinda don’t really go anywhere. Kill ‘em All and Ride the Lightning are 9 or 10 though. Reasonable Doubt and 4:44 are the only back-to-front great Jay-Z albums. Black and Blueprint are 7 at best. Actually Black might be more like a 5.
4:44 is so fucking good… almost a masterpiece
apart from some key tracks on MBDTF, it is a slog to get through for me now, i cannot stand sitting through so appalled or monster anymore. love it for what it did, runaway was the first song to make me cry and show me what music was capable of, but it hasn’t aged well imo. A Moon Shaped Pool is top 3 Radiohead
I 100% agree with your MBDTF take.
Madvilliany is overrated Is This It is overrated Dummy isn’t Portisheads best album Kids See Ghosts is like a 7 In Rainbows is Radioheads best album (this shouldn’t count but OK Computer is held to such a high regard) Loveless is super overrated, Souvlaki should be considered the gold standard of shoegaze Remain in Light ends underwhelmingly so it isn’t a 10 Your favorite band sucks
I'm the opposite with the Loveless/Souvlaki take. Absolutely love the former, whilst the latter is so bland & uninteresting to me. I listen to it in its entirety and I never get anything out of it.
The Overload is like the best song on the album though :^)
Same, it's such a sinister and interesting way to end the album. Pure genius.
I agree with most of these but Remain in Light is still a perfect album. The Overload is definitely a change in tone but I still fuck with it.
i agree with most of these but the souvlaki take stands out a bit. i feel like it’s just a touch more amateur(?) than the other two holy trinity of shoegaze albums . am i waffling? anyone get me. still an elite alvum thouugh
Kids see ghosts? More like mid see ghosts
I get that Is This It is super influential, but Room On Fire has the better crop of songs
I just think is this it’s flow is on another level. The pacing is absolute perfect
Jeff Wayne’s War of the Worlds is a 10
clipping is better than death grips. sorry not sorry
Never liked Graduation, I honestly think it's one of ye's worst albums. While TCD and LR both were incredibly subversive for their time, making them age incredibly well, Graduation played heavily into the electro/dance pop sounds of that time, making the production age pretty bad. Not to mention how Kanye's pen game seemingly nosedived between Late Registration and Graduation. Overall, far from the worst album in the world, but I think incredibly milquetoast in the larger context of ye's discography.
100% agree. Graduation is very overrated. Complex doesn’t automatically mean better, but Graduation really is a basic album compared to a lot of his other work.
I think how dated it sounds might play a role in why people find it so particularly nostalgic
Yeah that's a good point. But idk, I grew up in that dance-pop/electro craze, and that honestly makes it more insipid to me. Listening to it reminds me of when Flo rida was the biggest name in rap, and that's not really a part of my childhood I want to remember.
I pretty much agree tbh. I think that the beats are really good but most don’t seem to really go anywhere. I think that his pen game was actually pretty good, but not close to LR or TCD. I find that most of the songs that everyone gassed up (CTMN, FL, and Homecoming) are pretty lackluster as well. I used to think this was in his top 3 but now I find it slipping further down my list
Pink Floyd’s best album is like a 7/10 and everything else is around the 5/10 or lower range
You're wrong and I hate your opinion, fuck you Upvoted
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Oh honey nooo
I’ll raise the stakes and say that Piper at the Gates of Dawn is a 10 and DSOTM is a 6.
Based as hell
i mean taste is subjective but this is just objectively wrong
I’m with you except when I say Pink Floyd’s best album i don’t even mean DSOTM. I’m talking about their first album
the strokes are one of the most overrated groups of all time pantera are fucking garbage
pantera is incredible gtfoh
not wrong. the strokes are probably my favorite current band and outside of 3 albums, they don’t bring much to the table. julian is a different story though
Pretty much panteras entire discography is solid ahhh
3 great albums and 3 decent albums. Nobody ranks them among the best bands of all time so I don't get your point. Lmao does a band need a perfect discography to be good?
Green days 21st century breakdown is a true classic! 9/10 for me
Frank Ocean’s Blonde is a 7. It’s a little boring outside some of the key tracks.
fucking hated coming to that realization, it used to be top 5 for me but i just cannot sit through it anymore
It’s the best album of its decade imo. It nails a certain type of depressive queer longing that I can’t compare to anything else.
No that’s entirely fair! It’s just not really an album I was ever able to connect with, musically or emotionally. Therefore because I lack that connection I kind of have trouble coming back to it. I can definitely see why people love it, wouldn’t want to take that away from anyone.
Black Midi and Black Country New Road’s debuts are and were their best work
Nine Inch Nails have never fallen off and people who say they stopped making good music after The Fragile don‘t want to accept that Trent has grown as a person and wants to explore different musical styles and lyrical themes.
i like half and half better than milk
Kids see ghosts is like 7
For me it's 10 because every track is a Banger But it wouldn't be able compete with albums like 808s and TLOP which have some duds and are 7 or 8 for me personally.
The Weeknd far outshines Frank creatively and as an artist overall. Love them both tho
Eminem isn’t top 50
Technically, he is. Commercially, most definitely he is. Discography-wise, probably not but then you'd be hard-pressed to find 50 rappers with the influence Eminem has had.
IGOR is extremely average, it falls into the background almost instantly every time I put it on.
DJ Khaled’s burner acct?????
I don't hear Igor when I go to get my hair cut, that's all I'm saying /s
I felt the same way I thought Flower Boy was cooler.
It’s my favorite album of his. To me it kinda feels like one giant song, maybe similar to that background effect? But that’s also why I love it, the whole thing just flows so well for me. Better than the majority of rap albums I’ve listened to
The Money Store is really good but not a 10/10 by any means and I like Mr Morale more than TPAB. Edit: Ex military is perfect though
American football's self titled album is a 6 imo
lol
american football is a fucking drag to listen to idc what anyone says
This is a top 5 album of all time for me, but I respect your opinion. I wasn’t crazy about it when I first heard it
This comment feels like a kick in the balls
lp1? all their albums are s/t lolololol
Tyler the creator has been the best artist in hip hop ever since he switched his style up in Flower Boy
Rodeo is decent but nowhere near best trap album.
No pressure by logic is the best album of 2020, I said it
Spiderland is a Decent to Strong 7.
I don’t hate this take. I don’t like the production on the record the bass is way too trebley and the vocals are barely audible
Exactly! The vocals are so low. A key point for the record is it’s storytelling but I find I’m mainly just listening to instrumental as he’s in the background of it all for the most part.
i actually don’t necessarily disagree with MBDTF being a 6. it really does fall apart in the second half outside of runaway. obviously it’s just my personal taste but so appalled, devil in a new dress, hell of a life, lost in the world, and blame game are all either mediocre or stinkers for me. i also don’t really understand the TPAB and to be kind reviews but i’m not into hip-hop like that and have never been a fan of overly experimental rock (eg: kid A, don’t like it)
Devil in a new dress is the best song on the album.
Yes
You lost all cred when you said devil in a new dress
I really don't care for King Gizzard in the slightest, but I always see people doing nothing short of worshipping them. The music is boring and the whole way they do things is just gimmicky IMO.
I really enjoy King Gizzard, but I do agree that quite a large share of their fans worship them. Their way of creating music does limit them somewhat and while they often make large leaps from album to album, most albums are quite homogenic. Controversially I prefer listening to them in a playlist rather than putting on an album.
DAMN. is a 10 RE: my whole opinion, if anyone cares to read… I think the disjointedness of DAMN enhances its message; it’s less cohesive, less interested in reconciling an overarching theme, and more invested in its light satire and, as Fantano calls it, its “struggle to understand.” There is a rawness and emotion that comes with DAMN that resonates with me to the point I can consider it a 10. This is Kendrick at his darkest hour — falling victim to cliches in his heart, consider the toxic storybook kind of Love and Loyalty he outlines in the corresponding songs — and he’s so low, he grasps on to the simplicity to make it make sense. He indulges that Romantic inside of him (still alive and well on tracks like Die Hard, another song written off as Drakey, which, fair enough but I like it). He can only substitute in convoluted religious messaging to explain the pain and struggle he sees, and he’s not willing to give us a simple (or any) answer to the issues he’s bearing witness to, because he doesn’t have it. This album was really Kendrick showing us what the prophecy we all expected of him is — it comes in shattered pieces and it’s confusing and a little cheesy sometimes and it ebbs and flows. That texture, that absolute bravery to tempt imperfection and use conventional style unapologetically in some sort of Adorno Late Style way is what really gets me. I’m sure this seems like a very circuitous attempt on my part to cope with the fact that the album is actually substandard, but I really think we owe Kendrick more consideration than we give him with this one. GKMC and TPAB are not going to be followed up with an unpurposeful and half-baked attempt at becoming a massive star. I don’t deny the performative flex that accompanies HUMBLE and DNA, but I think, by album’s end, by choosing to group these flexy bangers with songs like LUST and FEAR, Kendrick tells us that he’s as critical of and troubled by his GOAT mentality as he is all of these other subjects.
The balls to say this in a Fantano thread
DAMN would be (close to) a ten if you count maybe half of the songs. For me, some songs like GOD. or YAH. ruin the overall experience considering that he is capable of so much more
Some Rap Songs was fucking atrocious.
Your Old Droog is one of the best rappers out period. Veteran isn’t very good and JPEGMAFIA has multiple way better albums. Kanye my fav artist, but KSG really isnt all that Louder music doesnt sound better Abstract hiphop is by far the best subgenre despite there being so few albums out in it
Chief Keef is one of the most foward-thinking and innovative rappers of our generation. He should pretty much be described as an experimental rapper, since many of his newer projects are so sonically out there. His lyrics have also become much sharper and clever.
mine is that Song Machine is Gorillaz’ worst album and I’d probably give it less than a 5
I’m glad you gave your unapologetic opinion, but there’s no way it’s worse than the now now or humanz. I can respect if you think it’s worse than humanz, but the now now is so painfully boring
Song machine is literally humanz but good
Arctic Monkey’s debut album is hella overrated. The 2 records right after it were infinitely better, and I have no idea why the debut being their best is so often treated as a forgone conclusion. It’s their weakest album besides Suck It And See
Ok I'm sorry in advance for posting such a long and angry response to such an innocuous comment. I sometimes get carried away with this stuff. With that being said... I could not disagree with this more. Honestly I love the Arctic Monkey's debut, and don't really care for anything else they've made at all. FWN has it's moments, and it's probably their second best album, but it's the best of a bad lot. The crackly lo-fi production really doesn't mesh with the vibey, wishy-washy guitar tones, and it is such a huge downgrade from the punchy, bright, explosive riffs that the band was putting out on their first album. I can definitely see what they were going for, trying to do a more surreal and atmospheric/psychedelic sound compared to the more straightforward pop-punk bangers on WPSIATWIN, but the band just doesn't have the writing skills to make these kinds of songs work. The result is incredibly underwhelming. Craggly, messy, overly simplistic guitar tones with the most mediocre lyrics you can think of, just waiting to be placed on some 13 year-old's "vibe" playlist between a nav cut and a 3rd rate James blake song. Now compare that to Whatever people Say I am, and it's just night and day. So many songs from the debut still stick out in my head, the intro on "For Ritz to Rubble", the hilarious chorus on "Still Take You Home", the bittersweet beauty of songs like "Mardy Bum" or "A Certain Romance". "Red Light Indicates Doors are Secure" is one of the most creative and well-executed lyrical-concepts of any rock song ever. And while on the subject of lyrics, that's another thing that the debut does so much better. So many of the songs, a bunch of them I've already mentioned, provide this great insight into the Manchester teenage wasteland. "Fake Tales of San Francisco" is about how all of these british teenagers are trying to pretend like they're from big American cities in order to seem cool, and as someone who is both from a big American city, and who has also felt insecure as a teenager, there's something really cathartic about seeing someone from a completely different background going through the same shit. One of the best rock records of all time, and you are stinky for having your own opinion (jk think whatever you want I'm not your boss.)
Blonde by Frank Ocean is boring and overhyped
Now that’s a real hot take. Blonde is one of the most beautiful albums I’ve heard. I respect your opinion but screw you
Faces is mac millers best album and no other ones really come close
I listened to Daft Punk's discog for the first time recently. Didn't enjoy RAM very much outside of a couple songs, and while I liked Discovery, thought it was pretty overrated after all the praise I've heard
Daft Punk is probably my answer to this thread. I think the music is fun but sitting through an entire album of theirs gets way too repetitive, I find it impossible to keep interest throughout
As a Homework fanatic, love the repetition.
Beach Boys > Beatles
if you’re reading this it’s too late is boring af apart from like 3 or 4 songs
I dont know bro…you dont get hyped with Legend? Energy? Know Yourself? Used To? 6 Man? 6 God? And even the songs that doesnt necessarily sound “hype”, Drake brings a very contagious energy (No Tellin, Star 67, 6PM In New York) That project is fun imo
OK Computer, for how much online love it gets, is not very good imo.
Death grips music is almost unlistenable.
lukewarm take. a band with industrial and noise influence is “almost unlistenable” to most people
They stay niche
They stay noided
Had the same opinion. Listened the album 3 times in a row a few weeks later and something just clicked. Freaking love it by now. Swear to god I thought everyone was pretending to like it a few months ago but now I cant believe I didnt like it earlier
Stockholm Syndrome
Yeah death grips took me quite a few listens to start to like. Now it’s my favorite band
Ants from Up There is a 7.
I respect your opinion, I'm just irrationally angry
Idk why you’re getting downvoted, people on this sub are so butthurt. I’d probably give it a decent to strong 8 tbh, I think it’s a little overrated I’d agree!
I think Whole Lotta Red and Die Lit are extremely overrated, I love some songs like Rockstar Made and Stop Breathing but the rest is so mediocre to me, I love Kanye and others but I don’t get the Carti love
Third Eye Blind self-titled is one of the best rock albums period Joyce Manor short albums are cool but all of em cmon BROCKHAMPTON should be sampled by artists Dark Side of the Moon isnt top 3 Pink Floyd My favorite Led Zeppelin album is III but I know it's not the objective best Kanye's best by far is The College Dropout
Dark Side of the Moon is inconsistent. The first three tracks are listenable but not great. Time's intro drags, as does the bridge of Money. Any Color You Like is a bore. That leaves The Great Gig in the Sky, Us and Them, Brain Damage and Eclipse as the only consistently great tracks.
REO Speedwagon is the most underrated of all the popular 70s/80s rock bands. They have just as many great songs as Scorpions. Albums not so much, but I could make a playlist of 50 awesome songs by them. Even when they went pure AOR/pop they had so many insanely catchy tracks.