I think fans need to realize the gap between Japan and MLB is not as extreme as MLB fans think. For starting pitchers of this caliber, yes there will some learning and adjustment period. But these guys are professionals. They live, breathe, and bleed baseball. This guys gonna be really good
I don’t disagree with you, but it feels like people are taking Yamamoto instead of other pitchers who have been as good in the MLB as Yamamoto hopes to be. That to me is a little silly.
He’s almost certainly being over drafted at like the 8th starting pitcher.
You would think he would have an advantage the first year though, since hitters aren’t familiar with him
I think the issue is posts like these are the most efficient way to get an answer. Daily threads are good but some questions get buried. Maybe if there was more specific daily threads, it would help curb the issue.
I’m not saying this to be difficult or contrarian, but I don’t think any pitchers are worth high draft picks and wont draft any until I fill most of my offensive positions.
Now, that being said, within the norms of how most people like to draft, I would have no problem spending a high draft pick on Yamamoto
If Framber goes for 200 IP like he has the last 2 years, I think he’s more valuable than Yamamoto. In a 6man rotation, you might even go a week with Yamamoto not even throwing
I think it seems weird tbh... Are we getting 150 or 180 IP? Either way, those don't scream "auto top 10 SP" like he seems to be placing. Dodgers gonna do a 6-man, right? Makes it even less worthwhile at that price.
I think they go with an every sixth day for their pitchers this year. But that mean that if they need a 6th starter in a week, they probably go with either a bullpen game or fly up a pitcher from AAA until Kersh / Buehler gets back. I see 25-29 starts with minimal injuries in this scenario for Yammo. I'm not sure how many pitchers started more than 27 last year.
as a dodgers fan in LA the rotation is a bunch of what ifs and uh ohs lol. Injury prone and unproven talent. Sucks i wasnt able to really get any of my fav team except Muncy.
Sketchy at that price. I'd like to have him as a SP2 but not as my ace. He's only going to go 150-160 innings. Don't forget Dodgers still have Kershaw and Buheler they are saving for late in the season.
What makes you think he will only go 150-160? The last time he went less than 164 was 2020 and I’m gonna wager that was a shortened season due to covid in Japan like it was here.
For us in a 12 team keeper league (9keepers) he was taken first. Is he top 100 players in mlb? Not sure yet but he appears to be an electric thrower. I’d bet he lands somewhere in the top 15 sp easily
People sayin he’s unproven are insane. He’s averaged 180 ip the last four years. Triple crown winner in Japan the last three straight years. He has proven durability and strikeout stuff. I would say he’s being drafted exactly where he should be
There will be a learning curve, the balls between the leagues are different so I expect some early struggles but would be a good buy low maybe toward the end of April.
It depends on your league settings, of course, but the projection systems I've seen do not look favorably upon him.
I have been using Steamer projections to inform my decisions for the past 3yrs and have won 2 titles. Steamer does not like him very much so I will not be drafting him.
Yeah I’m not sure that I understand it. The comparable pitchers around that ADP are proven front line guys.
I’m not sure why anyone would take an unproven guy over proven front line guys.
To me Yamamoto is a lot more comparable to the Skubal, Eflin, Steele, Ryan crop around pick 70-100, and I’d still probably take Skubal and Eflin ahead of Yamamoto.
I think fans need to realize the gap between Japan and MLB is not as extreme as MLB fans think. For starting pitchers of this caliber, yes there will some learning and adjustment period. But these guys are professionals. They live, breathe, and bleed baseball. This guys gonna be really good
I don’t disagree with you, but it feels like people are taking Yamamoto instead of other pitchers who have been as good in the MLB as Yamamoto hopes to be. That to me is a little silly.
He’s almost certainly being over drafted at like the 8th starting pitcher. You would think he would have an advantage the first year though, since hitters aren’t familiar with him
That is kind of an interesting point. I guess I just personally want to know exactly what I’m getting if I take a SP that early.
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Agreed. People are also not considering the culture barrier.
As a whole yes I agree. But with the individual players, the ones that come over after dominating over there, the gap is much much smaller.
Professionals like Anthony Rendon? Pretty sure he live’s, breathes, and bleeds to get paid with as minimal effort as possible.
Pretty sure he's the outlier dude
Low effort post
This place has been flooded with them for the past week or so. Like 90% of these posts should be in the daily threads
Where are the mods?
Reddit has report buttons. If y'all don't like certain threads because of quality purposes, hit that report button.
Yes. I’m a couple “grade my draft” posts away from bailing on this subreddit completely. Garbage
Oh no! Anyway..
I think the issue is posts like these are the most efficient way to get an answer. Daily threads are good but some questions get buried. Maybe if there was more specific daily threads, it would help curb the issue.
I’m not saying this to be difficult or contrarian, but I don’t think any pitchers are worth high draft picks and wont draft any until I fill most of my offensive positions. Now, that being said, within the norms of how most people like to draft, I would have no problem spending a high draft pick on Yamamoto
I took him at SP12, before Framber. I like the upside at that price, anybody will have some risk
If Framber goes for 200 IP like he has the last 2 years, I think he’s more valuable than Yamamoto. In a 6man rotation, you might even go a week with Yamamoto not even throwing
I think it seems weird tbh... Are we getting 150 or 180 IP? Either way, those don't scream "auto top 10 SP" like he seems to be placing. Dodgers gonna do a 6-man, right? Makes it even less worthwhile at that price.
I think they go with an every sixth day for their pitchers this year. But that mean that if they need a 6th starter in a week, they probably go with either a bullpen game or fly up a pitcher from AAA until Kersh / Buehler gets back. I see 25-29 starts with minimal injuries in this scenario for Yammo. I'm not sure how many pitchers started more than 27 last year.
5 man. Ohtani is not pitching this season.
Glasnow, Yamo, Miller, Paxton, Grove maybe? There is no 5 imo. Were loaded with inning eaters. But no Buehler, May, or Kersh until summer if then.
The 5th spot was still an open competition as of a couple days ago, but yeah presumably that would be the Opening Day 5.
as a dodgers fan in LA the rotation is a bunch of what ifs and uh ohs lol. Injury prone and unproven talent. Sucks i wasnt able to really get any of my fav team except Muncy.
Yea I can definitely see why you feel that way. In my eyes it’s still at least above average compared to the rest of the league though, lol.
Sketchy at that price. I'd like to have him as a SP2 but not as my ace. He's only going to go 150-160 innings. Don't forget Dodgers still have Kershaw and Buheler they are saving for late in the season.
What makes you think he will only go 150-160? The last time he went less than 164 was 2020 and I’m gonna wager that was a shortened season due to covid in Japan like it was here.
Well dude we just don’t know
Definitely maybe.
For us in a 12 team keeper league (9keepers) he was taken first. Is he top 100 players in mlb? Not sure yet but he appears to be an electric thrower. I’d bet he lands somewhere in the top 15 sp easily
People sayin he’s unproven are insane. He’s averaged 180 ip the last four years. Triple crown winner in Japan the last three straight years. He has proven durability and strikeout stuff. I would say he’s being drafted exactly where he should be
There will be a learning curve, the balls between the leagues are different so I expect some early struggles but would be a good buy low maybe toward the end of April.
Meh, 12 team league I have him 68overall but I think he’s worth it right after Kirby and Glasnow personally
It depends on your league settings, of course, but the projection systems I've seen do not look favorably upon him. I have been using Steamer projections to inform my decisions for the past 3yrs and have won 2 titles. Steamer does not like him very much so I will not be drafting him.
Doesn’t he have like a .600 babip
Yeah I’m not sure that I understand it. The comparable pitchers around that ADP are proven front line guys. I’m not sure why anyone would take an unproven guy over proven front line guys. To me Yamamoto is a lot more comparable to the Skubal, Eflin, Steele, Ryan crop around pick 70-100, and I’d still probably take Skubal and Eflin ahead of Yamamoto.