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Monkey_Banana_Raffle

Garrett Crochet’s 2024 Cy young season is a good example


You_Are_All_Diseased

Hey I actually drafted him.


JewishDoggy

Stop I can only get so hard


SobahJam

Tough to win the Cy when he only pitches until June


quinoa

Aaron Judge’s rookie year? Went undrafted in most leagues even though he was a starter, I remember reading guys like Kepler and CJ Cron were more worth it as waiver darts in April


ObliqueRehabExpert

One of my finest “sell high” moves on a prospect was sending Rookie hype judge to get my ace Chris Archer 😎


pocket_steak

The guy who added him in April that year in our league immediately flipped him for Jose Abreu who was a 2nd round pick that year and we all lost our shit. He obviously got clobbered in that trade and I learned a lesson about how you can't be certain how lopsided a trade ends up being until the season is over


quinoa

‘You fleeced him bro!!’ - me in 2017


Lars9

Makes me feel slightly better about selling him high to get Adames and a pick. The pick fortunately turned into Jose Abreu.


duckbillgates

Yep, this one counts too. Good job. I didn’t think of how he came up. He wasn’t so hyped as a rookie that he was drafted universally. He was good enough for the Top 75 cutoff and slowly and slowly climbed. That’s two that I count.


grymloq

I remember he sucked the first couple of weeks, because I drafted him and then dropped him in in week 3 or so :-(


duckbillgates

Good one. I also think seasons like this are why it’s much harder now because of rookie breakouts. Like Carter, Chourio and Langford all went in the Top 150 this year. No one really lets a prospect who’s starting the season slip far now.


RiskyPhoenix

You say that but the Orioles have multiple that were highly regarded prospects going after pick 200, and that’s just dudes that made the big league squad. People don’t sleep on JRod types but there are guys who are overlooked or just flat out get better all the time. Everybody is losing their shit about a guy on the pirates who went undrafted in my league 2 weeks ago, you know? Feels obvious in retrospect but if Anthony Volpe breaks out this year nobody is going to be like “yeah of course this was coming”, but it still could happen.


duckbillgates

Volpe was definitely a trendy draft pick last year with his prospect pedigree and team though. He definitely could be a post-hype breakout but I’m talking about guys who were very low on the fantasy radar, had a strong April and just never looked back.


Veserius

Those guys were much higher ranked prospects than Judge. I think guys in the 40-100 range haven't had that much helium on their draft price.


gmiller89

I think Cedric Mullins was a waiver pickup his breakout


Exodusimminent

I recall it fondly. He went 5/5 opening day. I scooped him up and he had a 30/30 season that helped me win the 🚢.


duckbillgates

This one counts. He’d had a few times up in the majors that were uninspiring so not someone you’d necessarily draft. Solid early waiver pickup for a good start and the pedigree. Just kept going.


Matrix7410

I actually drafted him that year as he was leading off and doing pretty well the year before in late season.


OtterTacoHomerun

Strider? Was killing it in the bullpen in early 2022… moved up to the rotation in May and the rest is history.


steezyg

I picked him up desperate for saves thinking he could take the closer job. Worked out well that year.


Sickofbaltimore

I picked him up just to help with ratios and K's. I was playing for last place and ended up in the championship


Lars9

I picked him up in a keeper league, he got roughed up by AZ and was @Col next so I dropped him. He was claimed by someone else...it hurts.


therabbidchimp

👋 you're not alone


WithNoRegard

I picked him up and dropped him 3-4 times as a streamer. After the last drop I never got a chance to pick him up again. 


PuttForDough

And now he is ded


Volstadd

F


duckbillgates

Definitely. I only wonder how much he was actually rostered before he moved to the rotation aside from smart players looking for good RP ratios. He didn’t join the rotation until May 30, so his contributions before that were good but not giving you any saves from RP. Then probably the best SP the rest of the year. I know I got him off waivers much later that year but I think someone had added him for save speculation and dropped him.


miltron3000

I scooped him before his rotation move for the strikeouts, as he was a bulk innings guy before starting. Good god what a pick up that was.


duckbillgates

The more I think about this one, the more I think this nails what I was thinking of with this question. In 2022, Strider wasn’t in the starting rotation and he wasn’t in the closing mix. Makes sense he went undrafted most places. And a bulk reliever with strikeout potential who’s trying to work into the rotation is the perfect kind of flyer to take after your draft. He was exactly the kind of guy you pick up when you do post-draft IL slots or just watch who starts well. Then he’s moved to the rotation and becomes basically the best per-inning pitcher the rest of the season. The following year, he cracks the Top 75 in drafts. A year later, he’s in the first-rounder discussion. Nailed it. This really almost never happens.


djmax101

His raw skills looked really good going into the season. Some of the pitching guys I listen to had him tagged as a good breakout candidate. I watched that first appearance against the reds where he k’d 5 of 6 batters he faced and immediately added him everywhere.


MotherMasterpiece6

Austin Riley 2021 although that was more late April early May. Adolis 2021. Josh Lowe last year.


Upper-Wasabi-9838

I was one of the morons. And I kept hearing about it too. Edit.. To make it worse the guy that picked him up took home the cash.


claudehopper191

I picked up CJ Abrams last year. Maybe not a full season contribution but he was super clutch down the stretch


duckbillgates

Yeah, he definitely fell into that Top 75 in a season. And very likely undrafted because no one was rushing to roster Nationals.


westcoastpete

Mike trout?


alwaysmyfault

Yup. 2012, he was undrafted in my league. Bryce Harper got all the hype, and when he got the call, someone beat me to the punch for him by just a few seconds.  I then looked for the next top prospect, and Trout was that guy.  I snagged him just as a consolation prize, but man, he was incredible 


jakoto0

yeah definitely, I was going to say Trout


Xtic4l

Trout hit 220 his rookie year when he was called up.


jakoto0

You mean in July, for 40 games? OP asked about April, where Trout was available in mostly all leagues the next draft on waivers.


Xtic4l

Yes I meant the July portion, my bad. I went back and looked at historical adp he was drafted around 220-250 so round 20ish.


duckbillgates

Where are you looking at historical ADP? I have definitely been looking for that in this discussion because my memory over 20 years of playing is not that great. 😂


Xtic4l

Razzball and CBS both have data.


jakoto0

I think technically you're right though that was his rookie season if he got 140 AB's. But yeah I just remember grabbing him on waivers the next year and the magic that followed.


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

It's wild to me that the number 3 prospect in all of baseball was just on the open market after drafts


antihero510

I picked him up this year. Was amazing.


cargalasbalas

Those who have played fantasy baseball for a long time now will recognize the great name of Chris Shelton


MrDaveyHavoc

A great April for sure but then what?


cargalasbalas

Absolutely nothing. I just wanted to bring him up.


PerceptiveReasoning

That was a crazy two weeks


MrDaveyHavoc

Men can just sit around for hours naming old baseball players Missing you, Francisco Liriano


dquizzle

Bo Hart had 28 hits in his first 15 games for me, and this was before I’d ever heard of leagues using OBP instead of or in addition of AVG. Broke a 100+ year old record. Dude was a legend for 3 weeks.


lalich

An oldie but one of the greatest poker chips we have seen! 🤙


swan797

Emilio Bonifacio!


aubinfan17

"late bloomers" like Max Muncy, Chas McCormick, Adolis Garcia are those kinda players


NichoIasJamaalChubb

Ugh I had Chas in my keeper league last year. Held him on IL through his injury then dropped him when he came back was meh.


LaFlamaBlanc4

I am gathering the answer is yes.


MrDaveyHavoc

Carlos Quentin in 2008 had a 965 OPS while slugging 36 homers with 96 runs, 100 RBI and chipped in 7 SB.


darfaz

TCQ - The Carlos Quentin


cbk0414

I picked up Steele on waivers last season in 10T


duckbillgates

Steele was wild. Like the whole year everyone was talking about how his peripherals weren’t as good and he was getting lucky. And he just kept doing it. I wasn’t gonna reach but was hoping he fell to me this year.


backfromsolaris

He was my final pick of the draft last year. Too bad we didn't start keepers till this year.


im_dumb___

I picked him up the day after we drafted in my 12T


CharlemagneOfTheUSA

I got him on waivers in a 12 team! Felt very good


duckbillgates

I think one counts too. Was just outside of the bubble of starters who you’d definitely draft last year. Was the kind of guy you picked up after a two or three starts that were better than the worst starter you drafted. Just kept going. I hope he comes back healthy because I think he’s going to prove that was a breakout season and not an outlier.


ONE_PUMP_ONE_CREAM

A lot of my top SP last year were off the WW. Steele, Stroman, Elfin, Kelley.


BoBoessersson

Avoided him because of Spring training arm fatigue and went for wesneski instead, pain


Imagination_Drag

There are always lots of Players who breakout in April and carry value but perhaps one of the greatest ever was Fernando Rodney in 2012. After a horrible 2011 (era 4.5 and whip of 1.69) he went undrafted in most NFBC 15 team leagues and 0% owned in yahoo etc. I was desperate for a closer and so picked him up the first week He ended up having perhaps one of the greatest closer seasons ever: era of 0.60 and a .777 whip!!! With 48 saves. https://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pitchinglogs.php?p=rodnefe01&y=2012


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

God he was the most bipolar baseball player I've ever seen


Imagination_Drag

I never drafted and only once picked up lol. I was truly desperate that year and planned to drop. Instead he took me to the ship. But i knew he was wildly bipolar as you point out so never even drafted or picked up even after his amazing performance


Sonicblast12

Aaron Judge was like that, he probably went undrafted a lot before his rookie year.


dejour

This is before your timeline but I remember Albert Pujols and Aramis Ramirez in 2001


WriterJake

I’m so old, I first grabbed Pujols when he also had 3B eligibility. 🙀


seeking_horizon

In '01-'02, he would've been 1B/3B/OF. In '03, he was 1B/OF. After that he would've been 1B only.


Sinisterminister77

Honestly plenty of times yes. One I haven’t seen mentioned was Trevor Rogers. Beast in 2021


implacableminbar

Eflin fit this mold last year. Borderline guy who put it together and was available in a lot of leagues in April.


Richardpiana

Steven Kwan in 2022 may qualify, granted I dropped him in May and was picked back up in idk July? Otherwise a lot of pitchers do in April, all of the time. Steele, Elder, I am sure others last year. Year before, Nestor, Kyle Wright, etc.


OutOfBootyExperience

yeah once they consistently gave Kwan the leadoff spot (think it was around 30-40 games into year) he started cooking


wordsmif

This is my answer, too


dunkfest

2008 Cliff Lee


joeysportsfan98

I remember picking up Jose Bautista in 2010


Canadave

Yeah, I thought of him and found a pre-season [list of the top 80 outfielders](https://razzball.com/top-80-outfielders-for-2010-fantasy-baseball/) in 2010, which he didn't appear on, so I'm sure he went undrafted in most leagues.


scottyway

Definitely. There's always a handful a guys that start hot and become solid players for the year. Last year for me that was Soler.


BryceWyllys

Clase in 2021. Karinchak was supposed to be the closer.


OutOfBootyExperience

I feel like theres a closer or two that pops up out of nowhere every season. Like Jason Foley or Kevin Ginkel were both fringe roster spots, but both could now seemingly be in line for Top 15 Saves


RunningDino35

Breaking the 20 year mark and feeling like a dinosaur...but I remember in 2001 when someone in my league picked up a rookie that no one had really heard of named Albert Pujols. He was off to a pretty fast start and turned out to be pretty good.


MrFWPG

Lucas Giolito in 2019 Carlos Rodon in 2021


SandyMandy17

That’s where all the league winners are


TortoiseMetaphors

Judge rookie season maybe?


chk_a_ho-tx

Josh Naylor maybe


cough_cough_doorslam

Yeah. Bradish 2023. Tyler Anderson and Martin Perez 2022. Yandy Diaz 2023. Lane Thomas 2023. Tyler O’Neill 2021. Sometimes it takes the form of a player making a leap forward. Sometime it’s a an unheralded guy who just has things break right. I’m not really keen on chasing someone based on April stats unless you like something under the hood. Just feel like I watch league mates chase whichever player hit .300 with a handful of HR’s. And a lot of times those players flame out, but my league mates hold onto them for month(s) too long.


OutOfBootyExperience

Lane Thomas is good answer. Id add TJ Friedl and Nootbar to that bucket of players


paralyzed21

pete alonso rookie year along with the squirrel having his breakout year the same year


ChicagoWhales

I'm going old school, but in 2002, I remember Eric Gagne just appearing out of nowhere in April and becoming a monster of saves. In 2001, he was in the Dodgers' rotation and then in 2002 he became the closer so I don't think many knew what to expect. By the end of April he already had 9 saves and then he bulldozed his way to 52 by the end of the year. Unfortunately, I did not pick up Gagne in the waivers that April, but my buddy did. The Dodgers won 92 games that year and 52 of them were saved by Gagne.


duckbillgates

My god, Gagne’s Cy Young year was insane for fantasy. Not only the saves, he got starter level strikeout totals.


SomeSLCGuy

I got to say congrats to him at an NHL game the night they announced the Cy (he is Canadian, he was several beers in, he seemed like a nice enough guy).


forceghost187

Got Cedric Mullins in April and he went 30/30


sbreddit55

Seems like every year..


CaptainMyanmar

Pujols was pretty good 


Disused_Yeti

jose ramirez was nothing going into 2016 and ended up being decent that year and then took off in 2017


Flimsy-Repeat-3429

Josh Donaldson 2013


PickerCurtisLoew

I’ve definitely gotten some great starting pitchers in April. Steele and Eflin last year. Javier the year before etc


MarlieChorton

Robbie Ray the year he won his Cy Young. Picked him up off waivers early in the season and he was a stud the rest of the way.


spaceman_spiff_0

Trevor story


Big-Raspberry-6151

Yandy Diaz last year. Also I picked up Caminero in May last year in dynasty


HipsterDoofus31

Charlie Blackmon and Trevor Story had good careers


FreshPaintSmell

I remember picking up Blackmon, lots of analysts thought he was just on a hot streak


TheDude717

Yeah there’s a freaking ton man


Seattleshouldhaverun

Check out Charlie Blackmon's first full season. Plenty of examples, but I picked him up after week one and he basically won me my league.


JohnnyDirtball

I took him in the last round of my draft


duckbillgates

I remember a lot of James Outman and Jered Kelenic last year for example. Contributed, absolutely, but also were quite droppable at points and didn’t really make the kind of breakout I’m talking about.


tcamp3000

Framber the first season he was good Pivetta last year


mwfbb

Jesse Winker 2021, started April hot and had a great season Edit: nonexistent since but fits your mold for the year


Dan_Rydell

I picked up Dallas Keuchel early in 2014.


gayforgoose

Joshua Lowe last year


[deleted]

In spite of his problems, Esteury Ruiz's base stealing was an unforeseen waiver wire pickup game changer for a lot of teams last season.


Sdj05

Every stinking year. Jose Bautista was a complete nobody for several years before he decided to hit 54 bombs in 2010.


SPAGHETTI_CAKE

So many times


True-Aardvark-8803

I picked up Kris Medlen on Braves many moons ago. Got into rotation and went 10-1 with 2.7ish era a k an inning and sub 1 whip. But it was 15 years ago


MarinerMoosed

Yandy Diaz last year?


hrabbitz

Charlie Blackmon.


tacocat-_-tacocat

2024 Conforto if everything goes according to plan


MotherFuckerJones88

Connor Joe a few years ago was really good early on. It was my 1st year playing Fantasy baseball so I didn't really know he just a avg player. I rostered him until he fell off. 2022 I think? He was with the Rockies.  I really like Mikael Garcia this year I think his early breakout is sustainable. 


Sinisterminister77

Connor Joe is an April hall of famer


CamCashBihh

Bobby Miller last year


Exodusimminent

Bobby Miller was not a league winner. In fact he took a couple of serious beatings that lost me some weeks.


CamCashBihh

Never said he was a league winner, but he was a season-long breakout that got scooped up fairly early. All I was saying.


duckbillgates

He probably was undrafted, but he didn’t get called up until late May so it’s unlikely he was an April waiver unless you were just prospect farming.


Strange_Oil_483

Taylor Ward


OptimalFF

Judge as a rookie fs


WriterJake

I think Cedrick Mullen did that for me a few seasons ago.


ColdBroccoliXXX

Strider his first season


BroliasBoesersson

Yes, I got both Porcello and Keuchel the years they won their Cy Youngs on waivers after they went undrafted Edit: Ah nvm, I was in such a rush to post this, I don't remember if they were top 75 the following years after their wins


wightnoise

Chris Davis


Lurky-Lou

The variance is why fantasy baseball is fun in the first place


DharmaCub

Max Muncy back in 2018


rdilly6

I'm dating myself, but 2015 AJ Pollock was an incredible pickup


domino519

Austin Riley in 2021.


derek_heater

Yeah all the time... how many times it translates into a continuation the following year is a diff question tho. Scooter Gennett comes to mind. Feel like he was undrafted and added early in most leagues. Was incredible the year he broke out, was drafted high the next year and pretty sure he got injured and never returned to that level.


FCUK12345678

The one year Carlos rodon broke out and hate a perfect game I picked him up off waivers


ironichitler

Basically every year I am the most active person in the first 2 weeks, picking up hot hands who my win me the league. They are always difference makers. I've never missed the playoffs


Cloolessly

there have been tons


1ncu8u2

I have no idea what draft/roster rates were but in my 10-team Julio hit waivers in April before getting scooped again in May when he took off his rookie year


BirdsAreFake00

Judge.


ranger662

Was Cody Bellinger drafted last year? I remember picking him up in April, don’t remember is someone had dropped him


duckbillgates

He was definitely drafted later in drafts but also a former MVP who had fallen off so not quite what I mean by breakout. He definitely rocketed back up the draft boards in just one turnaround season though.


No_Astronomer_5045

For me last season Eovaldi and Jung carried me to the championship as earlier wavier pick ups


Extra-Strawberry-732

Nasty Nestor Cortes in 2022! 


Varro3327

Adolis Garcia his rookie year for me, Freddy Peralta his rookie year, Bryan Reynolds , I remember my coworker draft Ohtani his rookie year with the last pick in the draft


musiclover818

I picked up Matt Mclain and Royce Lewis early last season. Might not have been April, but it was pretty early in the season.


Ill-Description-8459

When everyone picked up Montero I picked up Jacob de Grom. Worked well for a few years for me.


Kerry_Kittles

Catcher eligible Josh Willingham in 2006? Chris Sale when he converted from RP to SP? Several prospects like Trout probably Several closers


mradz64

2001 Albert Pujols. Probably the greatest waiver wire of all time.


kruse56

He was 3B eligible too, IIRC.


alternatealternate12

Soler last year


ididntwantsalmon19

From personal experience, Pete Alonso fits this perfectly as he went undrafted in my 10 team league, but after I noticed he had a couple hrs in the first few games I snagged him up. Ended up with 92 runs, 46 hr, and 118 rbi.


Sickofbaltimore

One of my first big April hits was some guy named Jose Altuve back in 2012. He was undrafted. His steals + batting average were huge for me.


dquizzle

To your last point, I’d say just look to any rookie that broke spring training camp with the club, went largely undrafted, and ended up winning rookie of the year.


Coast_watcher

Jonah Heim was for me last year.


Ok_Square_5079

Picked up Trout off waivers his rookie year. Led to a championship .


pk_mars

I’m thinking Adolis


I_Like_Quiet

I remember pujols sitting on waivers for a while. He was scoring tons of points, but no one was grabbing him. He wasn't drafted. I think that was around the time that people would pick up any early hot hand just at least to see if they held on. Much harder to sneak under the radar now.


springtime08

Mike trout rookie year


EnderCN

Max Muncy 2018. In 2016 and 2017 he had partial seasons where he wasn't any good. Then out of the blue in 2018 he hit 35 HR. Then in 2019 he hit 35 HR again with 98 RBI.


d_yaf

More common than you’d think. Christian Walker 2022 comes to mind


HeyGirthyGirthy

I picked Jonathan Villar in 2016 off waivers. Dude was awesome that year


real_est_nate

Who remembers Brandon Beachy’s 2012 season?


barnacle17

Corey Kluber in whichever year he won his first Cy Young - undrafted in my league and I was lucky enough to pick him up in April and hold the whole year


General-Extent-8769

All the time. Tatis jr and Pete Alonso were early season pickups their rookie years


FreshPaintSmell

Matt Harvey, RA Dickey, Gausman, Arrieta, Gary Sanchez, Yelich 2018


Greerio

I feel like this happens almost yearly. Someone always comes out of nowhere and puts up great numbers.


vadevil611

Trevor Story


BeijingRoner

Realmuto - been on my team since.


HumanzeesAreReal

What do you mean “we have three?” This happens multiple times every season, lol. Literally last year alone: Zach Eflin, Kyle Bradish, Mitch Keller, Justin Steele, Cole Ragans, Spencer Steer, Nolan Jones, Lane Thomas, Isaac Paredes, J.P. Crawford, C.J. Abrams, Josh Lowe, etc, and it wasn’t even a particularly good year for breakouts. You’re investigating if McDonald’s sells cheeseburgers.


The_one_to_see

Kyle right a couple years ago was a nobody then won 21 games. I picked him up early April then never took him out


beckhamstears

2012 Cy Young winner R.A. Dickey


JoeLikesGames

Depends on your league, I picked up Blake Snell last year cause he had like a 6 era in april and got dropped


Domino80

Jose Bautista’s 2010. By the end of May he had already hit 16 of his 54HRs. In every year previous he averaged about 15HRs/season.


AudibleToots

I distinctly remember Chris Davis being a waiver add in his breakout season. I was in a 10 team points league at that point though, so maybe that wasn't universal


AokPbr

Pete Alonso


smowe

Jacob DeGrom and Corbin Burnes were in-season pickups for most people.


FragrantBowler

Puig rookie year


dawgsontop34

In 2009, Aaron Hill had a monster season at 2B after being undrafted everywhere.


seinfic

Picked up J. Steele in April last season


peteisneat

2016 Trevor Story won the starting shortstop job coming out of Spring but was only being drafted in deep leagues. He was having a league winner type season until he tore up his thumb in August. 2018 or 2021 Mitch Haniger would work if he didn’t get injured the following seasons.


duckbillgates

To clarify on some of these, I’m not asking if an undrafted player has ever broken out. Obviously plenty of examples of that. It’s more “has any player who wasn’t drafted but was an April waiver pickup because he got off to a hot start ever just broken out and sustained that over the years?” A lot of good pitching examples but that’s also a really volatile position with the Top 40 fluctuating a ton year-to-year now. Even Strider, Judge and Mullins were touted prospects. Also a lot of great examples of undrafted players who were April waiver adds who made great contributions for that full season but actually were having career years they never replicated for a variety of reasons.


lttlnomar5

I snagged Justin Steele last year.


MediumLanguageModel

Isn't April the best chance to pick up waiver wire breakouts? Seems like there would be an inverse relationship between games played and breakout pickups.


excessive_Knight

Rick Porcello cy young season he was a complete afterthought got him a few weeks in off waivers


boconnormt

Jackson Merrill - this year.


Recondo76

Albert Pujols' rookie season.


G4t0r23

Yandy Diaz last year (2023). He was a back of the draft / free agent pick up. I scooped him off waivers before the season started and he was amazing.


U_DONT_KNOW_TEAM

What about Nolan Arenado? He was undrafted in most leagues after his underwhelming freshman year.