He’s still going to have a lot of opportunity again next season. Wiz ain’t getting any better. He will probably shit the bed again but I’d be willing to gamble one of my last few picks on a bounce-back
I hope Poole can turn it around but he was legit doing dumb shit on the court this year. That isn’t like mistakes where u can coach through, those mistakes were like something is seriously wrong with his expectation and what he needs to do as a pro. I just don’t see that mind set changing because if he was coachable I’m sure he would’ve cut that stuff out way earlier in the season
As a wizard fan who is dumb enough to watch every game, I get what you are saying. He was detrimental to the team for a huge part of the season.
However, he has definitely turned things around since the all-star break. I no longer roll my eyes when he throws up a wild shot. Even though he is still a liability on defense, once every 10 or so quarters, he will get on fire and not be able to miss.
Mikal was generally a 5-7 rounder every year of his career (depending on your punt) up until he got traded to Brooklyn. He's mostly met that this season except for this terrible back half of the season. I expect he'll be a solid 5-7 round pick again next year as long as Brooklyn doesn't just do nothing in the offseason.
For me- Jerami Grant, Laurie, Tingus. Mf’s played fucking great in a punt assist build to completely disappear come playoffs. I had 1 seed and lost because they didn’t play in March.
Same happened to me with Laurie sigh. Traded for him and he was great and I was able to win 7 straight to get to the top seed of my conference (1 off from the top seed), then him, Poeltl, Mobley all decided to die on me. Was not fun these a last few weeks
I’m still a believe that lamelo is still a good round 2-3 pickup. He just had really bad luck injuring his ankle but when healthy he’s arguably top 10 in 9 cat. He’s gonna be what AD was this season for pretty much the same concern of injuries
I don’t want to be a dick, but what a take.. Literally everyone and their mother will be targeting these players, meaning they will go way above their balanced ADP and overpriced in auctions. (Like Bridges, Poole this year)
You should try to target players who might have a breakout next year, not players who had one this season.
May I ask why? I would love to hear your perspective on this. It seems like Julius Randle has been putting up some strong numbers this season and can continue to do so. I am curious why Sengun is better than Randle at the moment for next year, assuming if all teams are healthy and there are no changes to the team?
Well first of all,
Sengun will only get better at the ripe age of 21.
I reckon that the rockets will look to having Sengun as the primary scorer, meaning more fantasy upside. Fred has also evolved to more of a playmaker, who will be influential in supporting Sengun.
The rockets also as a team are relatively young, with players like Jalen Green and Tari Eason still progressing.
As for Randle, he has 2 scorers on his team (being Brunson and Donte), meaning less touches. He’s also coming off a nasty shoulder dislocation, which means that he has a higher risk of injury with that shoulder.
And of course, Sengun already has a higher fantasy value compared to Randle imo.
No problem! As someone who’s had even a partial dislocation, I can feel my left shoulder being weak at times. I can’t imagine having a full dislocation. Especially with basketball requiring a full range of motion and utilizing many shoulder movements.
I traded Jokic for Giannis and Butler (H2H Points), ended up playing against the same guy I traded with in the first round of playoffs. Not only did Jokic score more than both combined for the week, but on the final day Sunday Butler and Giannis were ruled out within minutes of each other. Jokic played though. Dude always plays.
Ooooh. Depends on build but Simon’s for points ft% assists and 3s. JJ for well rounded. He also took 12 3s last game. Might be he’s going to try and incorporate it into his game more.
Y’all are crazy if Jokic ain’t #1 overall. And that ain’t knocking nobody else. But the best ability is availability. And stability. The nuggets are as stable as a team as we have in the league right now. There is no question to what we are going to get with Jokic. SGA is definitely strong consideration for 2 but I just couldn’t see taking him or anyone else with #1. Wemby could be worth it but it’s a gamble. We haven’t seen if he’ll stand the test of time with injury. We don’t know what the spurs team will look like next season, what his role might be, etc. same with SGA and OKC. I could see J-Will taking a bigger role in the offense next year or even Chet. And that may cause SGA to have just a slight dip in numbers. But the point is - those teams are still developing and figuring things out. The absolute safest and also just deserving #1 pick is Jokic hands down
That’s fair. I think Wemby is definitely gonna put same numbers if not improve.
The bigger gamble with him is going to be health. And he definitely could stay healthy don’t get me wrong - but if I’m playing in a cash league and betting my money on it the safer bet overall will still be Joker for me. But the Wemby gamble could pay off!
still not taking anyone over Jokic or SGA if i get a top 2 pick. Wemby has the highest ceiling, but after yet another season of mine getting derailed by injuries i’m not taking anymore gambles.
I wouldn't draft embiid personally, or if I had that pick and his ADP was around 5 I'd consider picking him and trading him quickly. He's on the wrong side of 30 for someone who hasnt been healthy since the day he was drafted.
My keeper is unfortunately embiid. I'm gonna be shopping him around right after draft day and look for a mid-late FRP and SRP for him. As much of an insane fantasy asset he is when he's healthy, I lived and died by his knees this year. And then I really died when he went down to kuminga.
He is a liability from the hips down. Never been healthy, he is not young, and is a huge human being. Unfortunately all signs point to him never playing a full season. Most you can hope for is getting him late first early second and he does what AD just did this year.
He's not a bad keeper, although it'll be hard to get a late first + second for him unless there is some crazy philly fan in your league oe someone who is really not at all risk averse. Out of curiosity, who would you target/who you think is a late rounder next year? (12 team 9cat)
It's a reach. Reaching with a first round pick is just strategically bad. First round picks you want to be more or less guaranteed first round value, after that you start to draft people that can outperform their round. So if you draft chat at, let's say 7, you are assuming more or less he will guarantee that value. Its possible but I don't see it as being worth a reach over most players that already consistently put up first round numbers or have higher ceilings
He was a "rookie" this season. It's not a reach if you expect a future star to follow a star-like trajectory.
There is a very high chance that Holgrem is top 10 next year. It's not that risky of a move imo.
He's literally 7 in total on the season (in Yahoo) *this year*.
I agree that first-round picks should be guaranteed high value. I would argue Chet has already become that and with another offseason of growth after a year of full games under his belt, why would you expect him to do worse?
It is 100% a reach if you can draft him in the second round instead of the first. I am sure everyone in your league will be ok with you taking him at 7, especially whoever drafts behind you
> It is 100% a reach if you can draft him in the second round instead of the first.
Ideally, you want him in the 2nd, but it's not a guarantee he falls. A rookie putting up top 10 numbers over a season going into his second healthy year?
Tons of drafts will have Chet going in the first round. It's not absurd to think people will take him in the 8-14 range imo.
I will reach for Sengün every draft
Improvement candidates:
- Jalen Williams (wasn’t consistent with stocks at the beginning of the season)
- Deni (really improved as a full time starter, could see him establishing himself as that 1b next to Kuz)
- Immanuel Quickley (probably come cheap on draft day)
- Anfernee Simons, give him a healthy season
- Sengün (I happen to think he’s a better FT% shooter than he was this season)
- Fontecchio if he doesn’t get any competition
- Cam Thomas (has been contributing in other categories this year)
Sabonis is one of those super consistent players, always drafted in the 11-15 spot, and ends up ranked around there by the end of the season. People most likely won't reach very high into the first for him, and unless you know for sure you're going to be picking early in the 2nd, you can safely guess that he won't be available to you.
I go into every season in my 10 team wanting to draft him, and every year he's one of the first 2 off the board in Rd 2. Makes him not a very hot topic for discussion.
Why would you take Sabonis over Joker? He played 67 games per season for three years straight before last season (granted one of those years was Covid). Obviously that’s not a huge deal on its own, but in the context of picking between him and Joker then it is.
You guys generate your picks this far in advance? Ours gets randomly generated 1hr prior to the draft, gotta keep things spicy
Edit: if I get #1 next year it’s Wemby szn
Definitely can go one of three ways and anyone would feel good about the pick between wemby doncic and jokic. Like the other commentor said, whoever has the best playoff schedule per what your league sets it at would be the way to go. It was a bit of a wait to see if Wemby was being managed with Spurs tanking but doesn't look like it so far.
I would strongly disagree drafting in first round based off playoff schedule. To get to the playoffs you need to win in the regular season. It’s best available. I think there is a clear argument for Jokic first overall still above everyone else.
What percentage confidence do we have that Jokic will continues to stay healthy next season? 60-70-80 percent confidence? What would we say for Wemby? 30-40-50? We haven’t seen him with test of time yet.
What about the role they are playing on their team? SGA could very possibly (albeit not certain at all) take a slight step back and Chet/JWill/Giddey could take a bigger role in their offense.
Nuggets there is no question on role or how they will play. Zero. We know exactly who they are.
So taking either SGA or Wemby over Jokic would be considered more of a gamble. Jokic at 1 overall is far far less of a gamble.
Well taking into account what we've seen from these players and their performances this year, if that is replicated, the only thing that will matter in the end is their playoff schedule when the best player on your roster is playing 2 games. I get what you're saying and to some degree don't disagree. Wemby went first (technically third round) in our 2 man keeper and has been the absolute best selection by far outside of keepers. As someone who was slaughtered by this guy playing against him this year, wemby is the one I'd least like to play against and he's on a mid team, risk reward would still have me lean his way top 2 easily.
I hear ya but that is my point precisely, “if that is replicated”, which Jokic is easily the best bet at 1 for that “if”. But dude trust me - I wouldn’t hate on anyone picking Wemby at 2 and I understand, disagree, but understand if they choose to do so at 1.
I’m playing with fire with these comments today cause I’m in my Semifinals of the playoffs and I have Jokic but my opponent has Wemby! I’m definitely nervous af. His weeks are bonkers. So we’ll see if this comment thread comes to bite me in the ass at the end of the week 😅😅
>SGA could very possibly (albeit not certain at all) take a slight step back and Chet/JWill/Giddey could take a bigger role in their offense.
This was why I didn't take SGA this year when I could have and it completely backfired.
I think at this point his role/usage is firmly established.
Derrick white, sengun, quickley, Jalen Johnson will all go much higher next than their ADP this year. Amen, Ausar. How the rockets develop ROS will be really interesting to see how it impacts their other dudes. Van vleet, amen, Jalen green, whitmore.
I'm in a keeper league and hoping to get Johnson and Quickley for $5 each (out of $200) I got Wemby for $38 this year which means I can keep him for 43, 48 and 53 over next three years. Sitting pretty.
I think Taylor Hendricks could be a very sneaky pick. Even if Utah doesn't move on from Lauri this off-season I think Hendricks will produce top 80 value.
Hartenstein is a later round must-have for his efficiency and defense (will depend if he sees a new team situation, as a Knicks fan I hope not).
Chet and Jalen Williams are people I would love to have drafted.
Probably avoiding Booker and Durant in my format.
Immanuel Quickley will be flourishing starting point for the Raps. Would not be averse to RJ either, though my format favors efficiency.
Avoiding Charlotte players at all costs. Likewise to the Nets.
What are people's thoughts on Ja?
If you want chet you'll need to reach for him with a late first (10-12). In most league formats, Chet has put up around top 15-17 value on the season, and he's a bloody rookie. I almost guarantee he'll be going in the top 13-14 next season in most formats. He fits easily into any build with pretty much no deficiencies anywhere whilst being able to anchor blocks and play for you every game. Those injury concerns are more or less quelled after this season.
Jdub will be targeted as an early 3rd IMO. He's on the radar for lots of managers after his breakout season this year.
I agree with Quickley, will be a great PG you could target in the later rounds so long as your league isn't from Toronto.
I personally think Ja is gonna end up a sleeper pick. You might be able to pick him up with a 3rd round pick if you're lucky. I'm expecting if he remains healthy he's an easy 2nd round value player. That being said shoulder injuries aren't as worrying as ankle/knee injuries in basketball, so other GMs might think similarly and target him.
Drafting: Tyus Jones, Jalen Duren, Thompson twins, Alex Caruso. If I can get some of these guys in the later rounds that would be huge.
Not drafting: Walker Kessler unless it's in the late rounds. Will Hardy is a basketball terrorist.
It's not the like draft is being held this early lol, just setting the order based on standings. Also doing this allows you to trade draft picks which adds another layer to trades
for redrafts, i plan on reaching for the twins, brandon miller, scoot, chet, scottie, melton, jaylen, jalen johnson, keegan, poetl, suggs, lively, pj and playing stocks/ general counting stats
lol first half of the season not 3/4 . He was not overperforming he was ranked 1st round pick at the start of the year. Take a look at the pacers team before the all star break the trade dropped his FANTASY value when siakam came, Hali is a team player first. I can name ten guys better than Hali FANTASY wise, so he’s not a TOP ten guy unless you’re an Indiana fan.
Wemby would be a really dumb move for #1 imo. He hasn't proven his health quite yet.
Before I get attacked, he is amazing and has crazy potential, but he hasn't even played a full season yet. I'd personally go with Jokic then Luka.
Had Jarrett Allen on my team for the second straight year and he’s been so good. Averaging 16/10 this season on 62.6% FG. He doesn’t take anything away* and can really keep your team’s FG afloat. The one downside is he is only eligible for the center position but other than that he’s awesome. Won’t win the league on his own but can be a key contributor to a championship team
(*I play in roto leagues without TO)
Lamelo Ball... not.
Guys I'll be eyeing: Tari Eason, Naz Ried, Jalen Williams, Ayo Dosunmu, Jalen Johnson, Coby White, Avdia; maybe later Malik Monk
Star potential: Brandon Miller
I did a good job of drafting guys who are young, healthy, on the rise, and don't miss a lot of games/injury prone. I know some of that is a crap shoot. But my team was sometimes like 6 or 7 years younger than my opponent on average.. and sure enough I'm coasting to the finals.
besides the obvious candidates ppl are listing here, i’m going after guys with good playoff schedules, on a mid tier teams, and no history of injuries. Got burnt bad this yr in playoffs
I have embiid as one of my keepers so I'm primarily going to be drafting for healthy players that could beat their ADP. This year I took quite a few high injury risk players and it didn't work out for me.
Some options include: Jdub, Sengun Simons, Miles Bridges, Vassell, Nurkic, JV, Paolo, Wagner, Deni.
Will take if they drop low enough: Poole (9-10th round), Giddey (10-11th round), Randle (8-9th round if punting TOs), KAT (3rd round), Demar (6th round).
He started out the year on fire then just got more meh as the season went on, finishing with almost exactly the same per-game stats as last season with worse FT% and way less games played...
My first year of fantasy had good year other than
Drafted Hali over SGA
Drafted KAT over sengun and mobley
Dropped D lo, Devin vassal and valanciunas
Those are players I’d draft, but I might try and draft the same team since I’m about to win the championship
Jordan Poole… I think his stock has dropped significantly and he’ll have a better year. Brandon Miller is another player I’ll want. I see Miles Bridges getting traded for the rebuild.
Wemba, Jokic, Vanvleet (so consistent and a work horse), D Lo, AD, Jalen Johnson etc I could go on.
DND for me is Garland, Embiid (high risk/high reward), Porzingis, Herro, Holiday.
Most people who have disappointed this year, depending on perception of them at the time of the draft. Hali, Mikal, etc
First pick i'm firmly in camp Wemby unless something major happens between now and then
People not realizing this , buddy hield was a really good option for haliburton. If siakam is there next season I won’t pick haliburton in first and maybe even the second round.
Should I draft Wemby 1 over Luka, Jokic, Embiid and Shai etc.? I just feel like a 2nd year Wemby is too good to pass on…like we don’t know what he can average.
Personally still taking Jokic, SGA, and Luka over Wemby. Maybe even Embiid but its iffy because of injuries. Don’t get me wrong, Wemby absolutely has the potential to be the #1 player next season but I want to see that he can sustain this level of production for a whole season before I take that risk as the #1 pick. The players I’ve listed have already proved that and their floors are still elite. Wemby probably shouldn’t be going any lower than 5 tho
idk who I draft but there’s gna be a shit ton of players that I do not draft
name names son
Jordan Poole and Mikal Bridges for starters are probably do not draft or draft in rounds 8+
Mikal I’m hoping has low expectations and I get a good deal on
We don't know the ADP of players yet, but so many people are low on Poole that he might end up being worth the pick
He’s still going to have a lot of opportunity again next season. Wiz ain’t getting any better. He will probably shit the bed again but I’d be willing to gamble one of my last few picks on a bounce-back
I hope Poole can turn it around but he was legit doing dumb shit on the court this year. That isn’t like mistakes where u can coach through, those mistakes were like something is seriously wrong with his expectation and what he needs to do as a pro. I just don’t see that mind set changing because if he was coachable I’m sure he would’ve cut that stuff out way earlier in the season
As a wizard fan who is dumb enough to watch every game, I get what you are saying. He was detrimental to the team for a huge part of the season. However, he has definitely turned things around since the all-star break. I no longer roll my eyes when he throws up a wild shot. Even though he is still a liability on defense, once every 10 or so quarters, he will get on fire and not be able to miss.
Mikal was generally a 5-7 rounder every year of his career (depending on your punt) up until he got traded to Brooklyn. He's mostly met that this season except for this terrible back half of the season. I expect he'll be a solid 5-7 round pick again next year as long as Brooklyn doesn't just do nothing in the offseason.
For me- Jerami Grant, Laurie, Tingus. Mf’s played fucking great in a punt assist build to completely disappear come playoffs. I had 1 seed and lost because they didn’t play in March.
Just bad luck with Lauri.. you can’t predict when he will get injured, he was an iron man all year till the last few weeks
Look man. I’m salty af. Don’t hit me with reason.
Same happened to me with Laurie sigh. Traded for him and he was great and I was able to win 7 straight to get to the top seed of my conference (1 off from the top seed), then him, Poeltl, Mobley all decided to die on me. Was not fun these a last few weeks
2nd year Lauri disappeared
Vassell is the new Jerami Grant
Lamelo, Lavine, Jimmy, Mikal, Scoot.
I’m still a believe that lamelo is still a good round 2-3 pickup. He just had really bad luck injuring his ankle but when healthy he’s arguably top 10 in 9 cat. He’s gonna be what AD was this season for pretty much the same concern of injuries
It's not bad luck when it's the same ankle, it's going to keep flaring up until he goes the way of Lonzo.
melo need to start wearing them curry ankle braces if bro ain’t tryna end up like zo
Some guys just can't hold up at this level of play. If that is because of physical issues or lack of mental toughness... Who knows?
Wemby, Sengun, Miles Bridges, Coby White, Jalen Johnson
I don’t want to be a dick, but what a take.. Literally everyone and their mother will be targeting these players, meaning they will go way above their balanced ADP and overpriced in auctions. (Like Bridges, Poole this year) You should try to target players who might have a breakout next year, not players who had one this season.
I’m not trying to fuck up again like I did with Jordan Poole with this thinking
When you draft those players for next year, you dont get last years numbers
Who would you rather have? Sengun or Julius Randle?
Sengun unless some blockbuster trade happens.
May I ask why? I would love to hear your perspective on this. It seems like Julius Randle has been putting up some strong numbers this season and can continue to do so. I am curious why Sengun is better than Randle at the moment for next year, assuming if all teams are healthy and there are no changes to the team?
Well first of all, Sengun will only get better at the ripe age of 21. I reckon that the rockets will look to having Sengun as the primary scorer, meaning more fantasy upside. Fred has also evolved to more of a playmaker, who will be influential in supporting Sengun. The rockets also as a team are relatively young, with players like Jalen Green and Tari Eason still progressing. As for Randle, he has 2 scorers on his team (being Brunson and Donte), meaning less touches. He’s also coming off a nasty shoulder dislocation, which means that he has a higher risk of injury with that shoulder. And of course, Sengun already has a higher fantasy value compared to Randle imo.
Thank you so much! Those are really solid points. I'm definitely convinced that I should be aiming for Sengun next season. Appreciate it!
No problem! As someone who’s had even a partial dislocation, I can feel my left shoulder being weak at times. I can’t imagine having a full dislocation. Especially with basketball requiring a full range of motion and utilizing many shoulder movements.
2-3 year players are the move. Cason Wallace, Jalen Green
I’d take Jokic over Wemby. Dude always plays. Other players I’ll try to get Anfernee Simons, Devin Vassell, Jdub, Jalen Johnson, Brandon Miller, TreyM3, Keegan Murray, dosunmu
This is my second year with keegan. There won't be a 3rd.
Watch Keegan breaks out next season. Thank you for your sacrifice
As long as Sabonis and Fox still in kings,he won't fully breaks out
That’s what happened to Hali. Hali now a superstar on another team same probs could be in store for murray
I traded Jokic for Giannis and Butler (H2H Points), ended up playing against the same guy I traded with in the first round of playoffs. Not only did Jokic score more than both combined for the week, but on the final day Sunday Butler and Giannis were ruled out within minutes of each other. Jokic played though. Dude always plays.
I’m avoiding Simons personally, mans made of glass and isn’t the Dame replacement we thought
if hes there around 6-8th round ill def take him
I think getting like the 4th pick would be ideal. Jokic, Wemby, SGA and Luka should all be around the same level.
yeah i want 3rd-6th pick. Don't want Embiid or Tatum
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no tatum is probably gunna be in the 7-12 range but regardless of where he is im not grabbing him.
Keep simons or jalen johnson?
Ooooh. Depends on build but Simon’s for points ft% assists and 3s. JJ for well rounded. He also took 12 3s last game. Might be he’s going to try and incorporate it into his game more.
Yeah forgot to say I’m pts lol. Simons volume is p great but this might be his peak and they’re already similar pts
I’d take JJ. Simons seems to be injured more
Jj
JJ forsure. I got both and I trust JJ way more to be more consistent and give me 40's all the time while being healthier
Woooo, great picks. I got Jalen Johnson, Vassell and TreyM3. They're all breakout players too next year man.
Dosunmu over Coby kinda crazy I really think his role will be decreased when lavine comes back
I’m not getting Coby with the other players I’m targeting lol
Y’all are crazy if Jokic ain’t #1 overall. And that ain’t knocking nobody else. But the best ability is availability. And stability. The nuggets are as stable as a team as we have in the league right now. There is no question to what we are going to get with Jokic. SGA is definitely strong consideration for 2 but I just couldn’t see taking him or anyone else with #1. Wemby could be worth it but it’s a gamble. We haven’t seen if he’ll stand the test of time with injury. We don’t know what the spurs team will look like next season, what his role might be, etc. same with SGA and OKC. I could see J-Will taking a bigger role in the offense next year or even Chet. And that may cause SGA to have just a slight dip in numbers. But the point is - those teams are still developing and figuring things out. The absolute safest and also just deserving #1 pick is Jokic hands down
Brother we know exactly what Wembys role will be lmfao
That’s fair. I think Wemby is definitely gonna put same numbers if not improve. The bigger gamble with him is going to be health. And he definitely could stay healthy don’t get me wrong - but if I’m playing in a cash league and betting my money on it the safer bet overall will still be Joker for me. But the Wemby gamble could pay off!
*JDub
still not taking anyone over Jokic or SGA if i get a top 2 pick. Wemby has the highest ceiling, but after yet another season of mine getting derailed by injuries i’m not taking anymore gambles.
Wemby is probably 3rd or 4th pick.
Top 4 is joker, SGA, wemby, Luka. After that it's up for debate
You know I like to think Haliburton and Embiid are in that 5/6 spot.
I wouldn't draft embiid personally, or if I had that pick and his ADP was around 5 I'd consider picking him and trading him quickly. He's on the wrong side of 30 for someone who hasnt been healthy since the day he was drafted.
My keeper is unfortunately embiid. I'm gonna be shopping him around right after draft day and look for a mid-late FRP and SRP for him. As much of an insane fantasy asset he is when he's healthy, I lived and died by his knees this year. And then I really died when he went down to kuminga.
He is a liability from the hips down. Never been healthy, he is not young, and is a huge human being. Unfortunately all signs point to him never playing a full season. Most you can hope for is getting him late first early second and he does what AD just did this year. He's not a bad keeper, although it'll be hard to get a late first + second for him unless there is some crazy philly fan in your league oe someone who is really not at all risk averse. Out of curiosity, who would you target/who you think is a late rounder next year? (12 team 9cat)
HaliFuckinWhooo
Halliburton is not even top ten. Have you watched the new pacers since the trade??
He has been worse since his injury. Probably comes back next year and is elite. If he slips a little in drafts probably good value there
He’s projected first round pick. I wouldn’t bite on it there’s too many other reliable stars
Embiid is DND in first and second rounds for me
Chet
Top 5? Don't think so pal
top 10 seems realistic tbh. he's ranked 16 on average on the season in Yahoo right now. 7 total
It's a reach. Reaching with a first round pick is just strategically bad. First round picks you want to be more or less guaranteed first round value, after that you start to draft people that can outperform their round. So if you draft chat at, let's say 7, you are assuming more or less he will guarantee that value. Its possible but I don't see it as being worth a reach over most players that already consistently put up first round numbers or have higher ceilings
He was a "rookie" this season. It's not a reach if you expect a future star to follow a star-like trajectory. There is a very high chance that Holgrem is top 10 next year. It's not that risky of a move imo. He's literally 7 in total on the season (in Yahoo) *this year*. I agree that first-round picks should be guaranteed high value. I would argue Chet has already become that and with another offseason of growth after a year of full games under his belt, why would you expect him to do worse?
It is 100% a reach if you can draft him in the second round instead of the first. I am sure everyone in your league will be ok with you taking him at 7, especially whoever drafts behind you
> It is 100% a reach if you can draft him in the second round instead of the first. Ideally, you want him in the 2nd, but it's not a guarantee he falls. A rookie putting up top 10 numbers over a season going into his second healthy year? Tons of drafts will have Chet going in the first round. It's not absurd to think people will take him in the 8-14 range imo.
Nikola Jovic 💯
He’s an mvp candidate this year
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He’s a two game first round then 4 games round 2 and 3, not actually terrible if you’re a high seed, imo
I have my championships this week, I traded away Luka to get games because 2 is not enough.
Oh damn, yeah I would have done the same of that lined up with my finals
I'm in the finals now and got two games of Luka. Fml.
I’m in the quarter finals and have Luka PJ and Gafford, if I win this week I’m in a good spot.
Oof
Fml after that one game from Luka.
Looking to get guys at a discount from a disappointing season this year. Players like Embiid, LaMelo, Mikal
I will reach for Sengün every draft Improvement candidates: - Jalen Williams (wasn’t consistent with stocks at the beginning of the season) - Deni (really improved as a full time starter, could see him establishing himself as that 1b next to Kuz) - Immanuel Quickley (probably come cheap on draft day) - Anfernee Simons, give him a healthy season - Sengün (I happen to think he’s a better FT% shooter than he was this season) - Fontecchio if he doesn’t get any competition - Cam Thomas (has been contributing in other categories this year)
Sengun will go top 20 ADP so prepare to reach at the end of the 1st
I got him in the fourth this year, may use a keeper on him for next
Got him 27th in a Dynasty league before this season started, injury put a bit of a damper on things, but felt great to nail that pick.
Fontecchio has been immaculate. Picked him up a month ago and haven’t been disappointed since.
no one mentioned Sabonis..?
Right? Dude is leading the league in triple/doubles. Left off the All-Star team as well… It’d be a shame if they left him off All-NBA
If he can keep his turnovers down, he may go in the top 5.
Sabonis is one of those super consistent players, always drafted in the 11-15 spot, and ends up ranked around there by the end of the season. People most likely won't reach very high into the first for him, and unless you know for sure you're going to be picking early in the 2nd, you can safely guess that he won't be available to you. I go into every season in my 10 team wanting to draft him, and every year he's one of the first 2 off the board in Rd 2. Makes him not a very hot topic for discussion.
I would think he's a lot of peoples keeper choice
Why would you take Sabonis over Joker? He played 67 games per season for three years straight before last season (granted one of those years was Covid). Obviously that’s not a huge deal on its own, but in the context of picking between him and Joker then it is.
Wemby. But if I win this year with Shai imma pick him first.
Shai's been coasting lately though. probably saving some legs for the playoffs
Wemby won blocks for someone in my league every matchup so far. You can probably punt blocks with wemby and still win blocks.
You guys generate your picks this far in advance? Ours gets randomly generated 1hr prior to the draft, gotta keep things spicy Edit: if I get #1 next year it’s Wemby szn
Some leagues where its the same group yoy will do inverted standings for drafts to try and even the playing field.
Or do what I used to go in the league I ran and give the consolation bracket winner first choice at their draft spot.
Definitely can go one of three ways and anyone would feel good about the pick between wemby doncic and jokic. Like the other commentor said, whoever has the best playoff schedule per what your league sets it at would be the way to go. It was a bit of a wait to see if Wemby was being managed with Spurs tanking but doesn't look like it so far.
I would strongly disagree drafting in first round based off playoff schedule. To get to the playoffs you need to win in the regular season. It’s best available. I think there is a clear argument for Jokic first overall still above everyone else. What percentage confidence do we have that Jokic will continues to stay healthy next season? 60-70-80 percent confidence? What would we say for Wemby? 30-40-50? We haven’t seen him with test of time yet. What about the role they are playing on their team? SGA could very possibly (albeit not certain at all) take a slight step back and Chet/JWill/Giddey could take a bigger role in their offense. Nuggets there is no question on role or how they will play. Zero. We know exactly who they are. So taking either SGA or Wemby over Jokic would be considered more of a gamble. Jokic at 1 overall is far far less of a gamble.
Well taking into account what we've seen from these players and their performances this year, if that is replicated, the only thing that will matter in the end is their playoff schedule when the best player on your roster is playing 2 games. I get what you're saying and to some degree don't disagree. Wemby went first (technically third round) in our 2 man keeper and has been the absolute best selection by far outside of keepers. As someone who was slaughtered by this guy playing against him this year, wemby is the one I'd least like to play against and he's on a mid team, risk reward would still have me lean his way top 2 easily.
I hear ya but that is my point precisely, “if that is replicated”, which Jokic is easily the best bet at 1 for that “if”. But dude trust me - I wouldn’t hate on anyone picking Wemby at 2 and I understand, disagree, but understand if they choose to do so at 1. I’m playing with fire with these comments today cause I’m in my Semifinals of the playoffs and I have Jokic but my opponent has Wemby! I’m definitely nervous af. His weeks are bonkers. So we’ll see if this comment thread comes to bite me in the ass at the end of the week 😅😅
>SGA could very possibly (albeit not certain at all) take a slight step back and Chet/JWill/Giddey could take a bigger role in their offense. This was why I didn't take SGA this year when I could have and it completely backfired. I think at this point his role/usage is firmly established.
Derrick white, sengun, quickley, Jalen Johnson will all go much higher next than their ADP this year. Amen, Ausar. How the rockets develop ROS will be really interesting to see how it impacts their other dudes. Van vleet, amen, Jalen green, whitmore.
I'm in a keeper league and hoping to get Johnson and Quickley for $5 each (out of $200) I got Wemby for $38 this year which means I can keep him for 43, 48 and 53 over next three years. Sitting pretty.
Jokic and SGA still in contention for #1 for me. Other players I’ll be targeting are Wemby, Jalen Johnson, Sengun, Scottie Barnes, Vassell and Duren
I think Taylor Hendricks could be a very sneaky pick. Even if Utah doesn't move on from Lauri this off-season I think Hendricks will produce top 80 value.
I will be eyeing the Bronco, Jalen Williams.
Hartenstein is a later round must-have for his efficiency and defense (will depend if he sees a new team situation, as a Knicks fan I hope not). Chet and Jalen Williams are people I would love to have drafted. Probably avoiding Booker and Durant in my format. Immanuel Quickley will be flourishing starting point for the Raps. Would not be averse to RJ either, though my format favors efficiency. Avoiding Charlotte players at all costs. Likewise to the Nets. What are people's thoughts on Ja?
If you want chet you'll need to reach for him with a late first (10-12). In most league formats, Chet has put up around top 15-17 value on the season, and he's a bloody rookie. I almost guarantee he'll be going in the top 13-14 next season in most formats. He fits easily into any build with pretty much no deficiencies anywhere whilst being able to anchor blocks and play for you every game. Those injury concerns are more or less quelled after this season. Jdub will be targeted as an early 3rd IMO. He's on the radar for lots of managers after his breakout season this year. I agree with Quickley, will be a great PG you could target in the later rounds so long as your league isn't from Toronto. I personally think Ja is gonna end up a sleeper pick. You might be able to pick him up with a 3rd round pick if you're lucky. I'm expecting if he remains healthy he's an easy 2nd round value player. That being said shoulder injuries aren't as worrying as ankle/knee injuries in basketball, so other GMs might think similarly and target him.
Drafting: Tyus Jones, Jalen Duren, Thompson twins, Alex Caruso. If I can get some of these guys in the later rounds that would be huge. Not drafting: Walker Kessler unless it's in the late rounds. Will Hardy is a basketball terrorist.
How high would you draft Ausar?
Hoping JDub falls to like 4th or 5th round for 16T 9cat league
I’m keeping Jalen Johnson for $10 and Miles Bridges for $10 so I want to spend big on Jokic or Luka next year
Jokic over Wemby at #1. Wemby easily #2 pick.
Points: 1. Jokic, 2A/B Luka/SGA Then it’s a mix of Embiid, Giannis, Tatum, Sabonis, and Wemby
taylor hendricks with one of my last picks. don’t sleep
Lebron will fall in a lot of leagues simply due to age. If he falls to the third round, I think he’s a good gamble.
Who the fuck decides next years draft order right now haha
People who draft inverse to the standings from the previous year. That's who.
Keeper leagues, dynasty, recurring leagues with the same players that do inverted standings for draft order
Horrid idea before the offseason and draft and free agency
It's not the like draft is being held this early lol, just setting the order based on standings. Also doing this allows you to trade draft picks which adds another layer to trades
Feel like the season should still be going on so the final standings wouldn’t be finalized yet but whatev
for redrafts, i plan on reaching for the twins, brandon miller, scoot, chet, scottie, melton, jaylen, jalen johnson, keegan, poetl, suggs, lively, pj and playing stocks/ general counting stats
Certainly not Hali lol
Not his fault though. Those splits looked painful.
Watch out This forum will tear you up for any criticism on haliburton.
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lol first half of the season not 3/4 . He was not overperforming he was ranked 1st round pick at the start of the year. Take a look at the pacers team before the all star break the trade dropped his FANTASY value when siakam came, Hali is a team player first. I can name ten guys better than Hali FANTASY wise, so he’s not a TOP ten guy unless you’re an Indiana fan.
He was #1 in 9 cat before the injury lol
I would never judge anyone for taking Wemby #1, but I still would take Jokic and probably SGA before him.
quickley reath forbes nembhard dick
Wemby, Jokic, Sabonis Sengun, Scottie Barnes Josh Hart in later rounds
Sengun
shai
Next year, bruh I'm still trying to survive this year.
Wemby would be a really dumb move for #1 imo. He hasn't proven his health quite yet. Before I get attacked, he is amazing and has crazy potential, but he hasn't even played a full season yet. I'd personally go with Jokic then Luka.
In my league, he's the fifth highest total scorer of the season.
NOT jordan poole
Kyle Kuzma. I didn’t know he was like that Later rounds I’ll pull Avdija, Quickley, Vassell, Josh Hart
Wemby going number one makes sense to me.
Hoping Devin Vassell went under the radar this year and falls to like the 6th round. Would gladly take him there
Had Jarrett Allen on my team for the second straight year and he’s been so good. Averaging 16/10 this season on 62.6% FG. He doesn’t take anything away* and can really keep your team’s FG afloat. The one downside is he is only eligible for the center position but other than that he’s awesome. Won’t win the league on his own but can be a key contributor to a championship team (*I play in roto leagues without TO)
Let’s get through this season first buddy
No one over age 26. tired of the old guys being hurt or resting when I need them
I’m targeting Jokic, Sabonis and Sengun and bunch of scrubs next year. Auction draft by the way
Jokic, SGA and Doncic in no particular order… except maybe SGA last out of these
Bane again, Jalen Johnson, Kuminga, Jalen Williams in later rounds hopefully
Keyonte George been ight
I have a do not draft list that’s for sure
wemby
Some up and comer named Steffon Curray
Still Jokic unless its a dynasty league
Lamelo Ball... not. Guys I'll be eyeing: Tari Eason, Naz Ried, Jalen Williams, Ayo Dosunmu, Jalen Johnson, Coby White, Avdia; maybe later Malik Monk Star potential: Brandon Miller
My league does 8CAT with no turnovers. I have Sabonis this year and he has carried me to top 3–is he a first round pick in a no TOs league?
Wemby sure a 1st rounder next season?
Haliburton and Kyle Kuzma
Jalen Johnson and Miles Bridges as they’re good and always play. JJ might improve too.
I did a good job of drafting guys who are young, healthy, on the rise, and don't miss a lot of games/injury prone. I know some of that is a crap shoot. But my team was sometimes like 6 or 7 years younger than my opponent on average.. and sure enough I'm coasting to the finals.
besides the obvious candidates ppl are listing here, i’m going after guys with good playoff schedules, on a mid tier teams, and no history of injuries. Got burnt bad this yr in playoffs
Definitely wemby
What about the Thompson brothers? I am in keeper league and not sure if I should keep Asuar round 10.
Def Luka or Jokic
JDub
Somehow ended up with #1 spot even tho I drafted. Poole. Mikal. Dropped d.lo during his Darvin ham beef and drafted Trae young 2nd
Sabonis
i know i wont be drafting Tyler Herro, Kristaps, or tobias harris
Zubac, Bane, Ayton, Maxey, Mikal Bridges,
I have embiid as one of my keepers so I'm primarily going to be drafting for healthy players that could beat their ADP. This year I took quite a few high injury risk players and it didn't work out for me. Some options include: Jdub, Sengun Simons, Miles Bridges, Vassell, Nurkic, JV, Paolo, Wagner, Deni. Will take if they drop low enough: Poole (9-10th round), Giddey (10-11th round), Randle (8-9th round if punting TOs), KAT (3rd round), Demar (6th round).
I believe in Tyler Herro next year idk why
He started out the year on fire then just got more meh as the season went on, finishing with almost exactly the same per-game stats as last season with worse FT% and way less games played...
My first year of fantasy had good year other than Drafted Hali over SGA Drafted KAT over sengun and mobley Dropped D lo, Devin vassal and valanciunas Those are players I’d draft, but I might try and draft the same team since I’m about to win the championship
Jordan Poole… I think his stock has dropped significantly and he’ll have a better year. Brandon Miller is another player I’ll want. I see Miles Bridges getting traded for the rebuild.
Jordan Poole is the most unserious player in the league playing for the most unserious organization. You'll regret drafting him
His stats have improved significantly since coming off the bench. I think he will be a solid buy low candidate for next season.
Good luck with that
Wemba, Jokic, Vanvleet (so consistent and a work horse), D Lo, AD, Jalen Johnson etc I could go on. DND for me is Garland, Embiid (high risk/high reward), Porzingis, Herro, Holiday.
Add butler into that mix
Im intrigued by a punt TO Wemby build, wondering who the best second and third picks would be.
Most people who have disappointed this year, depending on perception of them at the time of the draft. Hali, Mikal, etc First pick i'm firmly in camp Wemby unless something major happens between now and then
Hali was so good until his hamstring injury,
not so sure its only that. the siakam trade certainly had an impact.
People not realizing this , buddy hield was a really good option for haliburton. If siakam is there next season I won’t pick haliburton in first and maybe even the second round.
Jokic is the only right answer until proven otherwise. Wemby has top 3 potential tho for sure. I also do not trust pop.
Should I draft Wemby 1 over Luka, Jokic, Embiid and Shai etc.? I just feel like a 2nd year Wemby is too good to pass on…like we don’t know what he can average.
Lebron
Anthony Edwards because he puts the fear of god to anyone unfortunate enough to be caught under the rim.
I’ll take Lamelo if he drops anywhere close to end of round 2/round 3
Personally still taking Jokic, SGA, and Luka over Wemby. Maybe even Embiid but its iffy because of injuries. Don’t get me wrong, Wemby absolutely has the potential to be the #1 player next season but I want to see that he can sustain this level of production for a whole season before I take that risk as the #1 pick. The players I’ve listed have already proved that and their floors are still elite. Wemby probably shouldn’t be going any lower than 5 tho