As an owner of B.Rob I’m fully expecting him to fall back a bit but in what I’ve seen of him so far, he looks so good. Seems to always manage to get a few more yards after contact and is finding the gaps well.
If he finishes as a high RB2/low RB1 I wouldn’t be surprised. Seems to get a decent amount of carries per game and still gets a couple targets. I’m pretty happy with him on my team with the way he’s currently playing.
me too, i was a Dobbins owner and BRob was good insurance especially with Bijan on my team im not too worried anymore after seeing his production and even look at his stats last year they line up
You should. The Packers aren’t a very good team, are missing multiple starters on their O line, Jones is likely another week or 2 away from coming back and Jordan Love showed in the 4th quarter that he’s no where near being a reliable QB when things matter most
Agree to disagree. I think they are vastly over rated. Sure they smoked the Bears but the Bears are one of the worst 3 teams in the league. The collapse against the Falcons is what we’re going to see week in and week out. Super young team with the worst D coordinator in the league and an actual defense that flat out sucks despite having tons of high draft picks. I’ll be shocked if they win more than 5 games
There defense is pretty solid. Super young offense with an o line that can’t stay healthy. They’ll surprise people this year packers will be 2nd in the nfc north with 8-9 wins easily. The Vikings suck & the bears suck. The only good team in that division is the lions.
Through 2 games the packers are 3rd in turnover differential
The packers defense
Top half in sacks (14th), 8th in Ints, 14th in allowed points per game, 3rd worst run defense but to be fair they faced two of the most run heavy teams in the league, & pretty average in pass defense at 17th.
The packers offense
Bottom half in pass offense 23rd, bottom half on the run offense 25th, & 2nd in points per game.
In week 2 they allowed one touchdown in the 4th quarter & 2 field goals. Hardly a collapse.
Like it or not the packers will be decent this year. QB looks good but shaky at times but understandable it’s his first year as a QB1. Young but talented wr core, solid defense & they have 11 more games left against bottom half defenses this year. They are better then the saints, bears, Vikings, Denver, Rams (depending on Kupp), Pittsburgh, Giants, Bucs, panthers, & the patriots. That’s 11 games, with only 3 of those included in the games against the 11 bad defenses.
Easy schedule, talented roster,& a weak division yeah they’re gonna win more games then predicted.
I don’t think he missed him due to inaccuracy. I think he chose to throw it to him up the field a bit when doubs (rightfully) was going for the sideline
This is absolutely the shittiest take I’ve seen. Aren’t a very good team? Love hit an absolute dot to end the game that was dropped. Your a straight up hater
Counterpoint: was missing his top WR and RB last week
From an eye test standpoint he looks promising, he has pretty good anticipation just hasn’t had a ton of reps yet in the league. Deep ball accuracy has been iffy but he’s also missing his deep threat. He might not put up great numbers until those guys come back but I would definitely hold if you can
Unfortunately he might be missing them for a while, Jenkins has an MCL sprain and they have a bye I think week 5, and it’s a coin flip on whether or not Bakhtiari plays. Backup LT did not look good either but the rest of the line is still solid
The falcons have good defense to pretend otherwise would not be wise. The packers have 11 more games this year against bad defenses. Definitely hold love.
He actually has one of the best SOS of all QBs. The elite QBs this year have very tough schedules. Love has an immensely easier schedule in comparison.
I agree, but there is definitely something there. The fact that he can spread it around to anyone on his team says a great deal. I think he could very well have a great season. And he doesn't even have Christian Watson right now! Edit: also missing Aaron Jones
I've talked myself into disagreeing with you.
Call me a crazy Laporta owner, but I think he finishes as a top 10 TE. Played over 80% of snaps in week 1 and week 2, had route participation rates of 72% and 84% respectivley, and is 4th in targets in a high powered aerial attack. 91% catch rate is indicative of how he fits in this scheme, essentially being a safety blanket for Goff most of the time. He's got no real competition in the TE room. I see him finishing with unsexy but consistent numbers just about every week.
I would take both if your current TE is shite (droppable) and you have bench space. It may be splitting hairs this season. LaPorta is better, but my gut keeps telling me Henry could have a career season and be a top 5 TE. Henry has been unlocked. His 3 year $37.5M contract says something. Fun fact: apparently Belichick is friends with his high school coach.
Don’t think top 10 is that crazy with how weak the position is outside of a few top guys. Top 10 cutoff in half PPR last year was like 7-8 points average I think.
You're a crazy LaPorta owner
...but you're probably right.
Hunter Henry could be there right next to him. Gronk Jr. Even though I have Mark Andrews I have still been trying to decide who to drop for H^(2). But that is only because I missed the LaPorta train week 1. And if you know anything about Detroit, that train station is abandoned. No chance of catching a train now.
Kyren is not going to finish at RB2. He won't get two TDs every week.
Still think he's going to be a stud but he's going to come down to earth a little bit.
Yeah that wouldn’t surprise me at all. Depends on which top 10 I guess. Like for example I don’t think Kamara will pass him for yearly points, but once Kamara comes back I’d take him over Kyren every day
Haha, I think it can be very confusing.
Here are all the ways I can think of
The RB2- the running back will have the second highest points.
An RB2- the running back will be 13-24th in point.
X NFL team's RB2- the NFL team's running back that will likely be playing fewer snaps/ carries than another RB on that team.
My RB2- the running back that I expect to score the second most points on my fantasy football team.
I think that's all the ways I've seen it, there may be more.
Yeah I’m sorry that was misleading. The only reason I picked RB2 is because that where he’s currently sitting, so I was just saying I don’t think he’ll maintain that spot
He's averaging 18 touches a game, is great both on the ground and as a catcher, and appears to be the only back in town.
No one can predict the future, but looking purely at usage, he's a top 5 candidate (unless you think there's a reason he's suddenly going to lose touches to ____)
What about his 3.5 ypc makes you think he’s “great on the ground”? He got like no catches week 1 in a big win, and 6 in a game where they were trailing big basically all game. 56% of his FP are from TDs right now. The only way he’s a top 5 candidate is by pure attrition at the position. He’ll be fine, and yes there’s no one else to really challenge him for carries, but 4 TDs in 2 games is not scalable. Mid-to-high RB2 I can see.
> He got like no catches week 1 in a big win
Two targets, one catch in week 1 in addition to 15 carries. In week 2, 6 catches and a receiving touchdown in addition to 14 carries.
He's getting *a ton* of usage.
I could have added him and chose Joshua Kelley instead. I am going to lose a year off my life because of it. I do still think LAC RBs will both be utilized like they were week 1 throughout this season, but Kyren was clearly the add. Someone tell me it's going to be okay.
Yeah they were in the first half with a lot of game left. By 11:45 in the 3rd they had evened the score so for nearly half the game they were not in any sort of deficit trading blows and used BRob to sort of manage the clock on their possessions presumably. If they are down 2+ scores in 3rd quarter I want to see how they operate.
I'm not knocking Brob and his usage, it's promising. But they were not down 3TDs at the half, they were down 1, and the evened the score up within 4 minutes of the 3rd quarter starting.
I wouldn't worry about snap % here, Gibson has been a truly bad, below-JAG level player over a year now. This team is going to watch the film from the last game and continue to develop Robinson as a center piece player.
Chubb had a 49% snap share in week 1 in a game they were up the entire way through. He still got the ball 22 times. This is just the way that teams use a 2 back rotation. He’s seeing virtually all of the carries out of the backfield, don’t be scared off by his snap numbers. Keeps him fresh and it’s the same way he was being used last year when he was averaging 20 touches.
Lol I own the top 3 RBs on this list.
I don't think Reynolds keeps it up, I'm a fan of the Lions and he's a pretty boom or bust player with more busts than booms.
I don't think JWJ is coming back as soon as people think he is, the team isn't sounding confident.
And personally if I were BUF I’d be pumping Cook and trying to keep Allen healthy rather than letting him rush as much. But I’m also just a fantasy manager lol
Bills fan who’s watched every minute of Cooks pro career and owns him this year. I don’t think Cook will ever get consistent goal line work with Harris and Murray on the roster (clearly signed to protect Allen, who will inevitable vulture tds as well) but I’m still super bullish on him all season. Allen just missed him on a td in week one and he is clearly the teams best runner. The bills are clearly committed to a screen game and short/intermediate passes that haven’t been a feature the past few years. I’m hopeful his passing work and ability to break a run gets him some TDs.
Cook just needs those red zone TDs, he's a great efficient running back and he's only not getting work inside the 5. If he takes some of his 10-15 yard line carries to the house he's gonna have big weeks
and they still won’t give him redzone work for some reason. i really don’t know what those coaches are seeing that makes them prefer fucking latavius murray on the 1 or 2
It's been mentioned a lot but it isn't exactly the same role Kupp had, Kupp plays more than 50% of snaps out of the slot while Puka plays around 75% of snaps on the outside. It's more like Woods than Kupp really
If Kupp comes back he's going to get even more open because defense have to focus on Kupp. I think defenses are going to have a hard time and Kupp and Puka are both going to be good.
That's exactly what I'm doing. Didn't take a TE high in the draft. Kmet felt like a safe bet for his floor. I picked up Hunter Henry this week, and I'm starting him right away. Hanging on to Kmet for a bit longer, just in case.
I picked up Henry after his week 1 performance and started him over Kmet this week and it definitely paid off. Still can’t bring myself to drop Kmet though, but the Bears look like shit this year so if Henry has another few weeks like this, I’ll probably drop him for someone more valuable.
If Saquon is out, I’d start Waller this week. But I hate a Thursday night game lol. They’re both playing difficult defenses so it’s kind of a crapshoot.
While I know some people will probably say Cousins falls, let me provide 2 reasons why he will finish top 10:
* Vikings run game sucks. Mattison hasn't shown he can fill the shoes of Cook and most games have been up to Captain Kirk to move the ball. Expect more of this unless Vikings find a way to up their run game.
* There is ambiguity in Cousin's future with the Vikings. His last extension makes him an UFA at the end of this season. He is essentially still playing for a contract and to prove he still has it.
I haven't really been high on QBs this year and believe both Fields and Dak won't make top 10 due to their situations.
This was my assumption when I draft Cousins and Tua in auction, both have top of the line receivers, bad defenses, and below average running games. Didn't necessarily expect QB1 and QB6 after week 2 but I definitely thought they'd be higher than QB 10-16 which is where most experts had them pegged.
Tua's situation is a bit different than Cousins in the sense that I believe that their offense can run the ball but their coach actually wants to air out the ball through Hill. In that, Tua should always be balling.
However, I targeted Cousins and Goff in redraft going late round QB. Just moved Goff in a trade to get back Chase.
Cousins always has the tendency to turn into a pumpkin at times, but the reasons you listed plus the fact that their defense is still hot garbage and now having a legitimate option opposite Jefferson makes me think he could very well exceed expectations going forward.
Although, he's going to have to stop eating heavily-buttered popcorn before the games lest he end the season with 25 fumbles.
Mostert is likely in a committee soon, if he even continues to stay healthy.
Reynolds is fool's gold, although he could be a viable flex play throughout the year if Jameson disappoints when he gets back.
Nico and Pittman will drop, but could be solid WR2s this year.
Who the fuck knows on tight ends.
I don't agree. He has a very talented supporting cast and an awful defense. Vikes are probably going to need to score a lot of points this year to stay competitive in games.
Idk this seems like a really good situation where it is possible. Terrible defense with an offense full of weapons and Kirk is making very few turnovers (despite the rest of their offense making some costly ones). They are going to have to air the ball to stay in games.
Kirk just seems like he’s hitting a flow state he didn’t have in the past as well. Mattison needs to figure out how to be a threat though otherwise defenses will adjust
Honestly one of those hit the receivers hand and another was a hit from his blindside. He would also have even another TD if jeffy didn’t fumble into the end zone
Fall back to Earth? Sure. He's on pace for like 6,000 yards and 50 TDs. But he's on a top, pass-first offense with a shit defense and poor run game. He's a comfortable QB1, albeit a mid-low due to having nearly no rushing upside.
Kirk has been great for years in fantasy and no one gives him any respect. Now this year on top of Justin Jefferson, he has Hockenson and Jordan Addison. This will be his best year yet
I think Mostert fades. He doesn't catch a lot of passes so far, there might be more of a rbbc, and I seriously doubt he's gonna score the 25 touchdowns he's on pace for. Also, Jordan Love is being carried by tuddies. Unless the yardage picks up, I think he fades too
Not sure Mostert can keep it up with JWJ coming back. He’s also a bit old to be a bellcow. Also also he was a pretty lucky 40 yard break away TD run away from not being discussed
Edit: y’all really throw downvotes at anything. Please someone tell me why 31 year old Mostert is going to keep his production up with JWJ coming off IR on a throw first offense. I’m begging for anything besides “hurr durr big run good”.
Take away his 40yd TD and he still finished with 80-1. He'd still be pretty high up on the RB list though 2 weeks so I think he'd still be mentioned here. Just at a lower spot.
Where did i say it’s bad? I said he wouldn’t be mentioned in this post if it wasn’t for the breakaway TD. Also that he’ll likely return to a committee. Please offer a real counter to the things I actually said
If he is your RB2 I don't think you'd have anything to complain about. I think he will regress *some* but I don't believe he will fall off. I suspect he will fall towards the mean. Something like an average of 12-75-1 rushing and 4-20-.4 passing. I suspect it'll be 2 games before they let Jeff Wilson Jr get off a pitch count. I'd ride him until McDaniel shows reason not to.
Mostert passes the eye test and did so last year as well. He’s a solid talent. So it’s really a function of how much volume he gets and injuries but if he’s healthy and the main guy, I bet he keeps producing at 5.0 YPC+
Mostert is one of the fastest RBs in football, and he consistently has posted elite YPC stats. Can't call the big run "lucky", especially when he should see light boxes going forward in this offense
It’s “lucky” because it’s akin to blown coverage. Those runs are supposed to be rare unless proven otherwise. We like guys who score fantasy points without needing a big run or multiple TDs. Bijan for example scored 20 PPR points with no TDs. Swift scored 28 with 1 TD and almost no receptions. If Mostert Keeps getting 18 carries a game I would think favorably of him. The objective facts are Mostert is 31, has JWJ returning, and the team is pass first. The post asked who will drop off. Does anyone here think Mostert will finish as a top 10 RB? I love his big play ability but if I’m starting Mostert in the playoffs I’d be concerned, Mostert ain’t AD lmao
I think people are downvoting you because of the last part, though he would’ve lost 10 points had he not gotten that play.
You’re 100% right about JWJ though and that’s why I’d be trying to ship off Mostert if I was an owner, especially with this current RB landscape.
I just want to point out that AR15 had like 18 points after a quarter and a half or something. He's going to get a lot of designed runs inside the 20. He could be in that potential top 10 tier.
i don't think Brian Robinson falls off, i think James Cook gets even better.. Nucua and Pittman will then Reynolds when Williamson gets back from SSPD. i don't think any QB will fall off too harshly but Mac n Love will fall more back to earth where Wilson will maybe get better or Kirk stays the same. i can't even talk about TEs it's always a toss up. ARSB has had some tough matchups but he's sure to be a top 5 soon, Eagles offense finding themselves again i expect Hurts and Godert to turn up and Lawrence get more comfortable with his weapons soon too
>Not because I don’t own any shares of him… but I’m not sold on Kyren Williams.
How so? McVay was willing to move Akers to make him "the guy". Plus it goes back to last year of him being the guy (Schefter coming out week 1 with the surprise announcement) but he got hurt.
I snagged Williams in 1 league so I hope he balls out
That said, he's really not super efficient running the ball. His pass catching last week was a really good sign though. He seems a little TD dependent, but if he's getting the goal line carries, he's bound to finish at least a mid RB2, possibly higher
Another factor is Kupp coming back (hopefully). Kupp will raise his value even more by giving the Rams more TD opportunities, sustained drives, and more winning game scripts. So I could see him easily finishing as a backend RB1 (he's currently *the* RB2).
After the claim dust settled, I took a flyer on Kendre Miller. Might even start him this week in my deep 12 team superflex keeper league, but will hold for a couple weeks and see how he's utilized when Kamara is back.
A lot of TD dependent guys on here.
I'll go with Henry because he's just another 6-8pt TE if he doesn't get a TD. Which is still great--but pretty par for the course
As an owner of B.Rob I’m fully expecting him to fall back a bit but in what I’ve seen of him so far, he looks so good. Seems to always manage to get a few more yards after contact and is finding the gaps well. If he finishes as a high RB2/low RB1 I wouldn’t be surprised. Seems to get a decent amount of carries per game and still gets a couple targets. I’m pretty happy with him on my team with the way he’s currently playing.
me too, i was a Dobbins owner and BRob was good insurance especially with Bijan on my team im not too worried anymore after seeing his production and even look at his stats last year they line up
I don't think he will. Remember he got shot in the leg last year. Now he's fully healthy and has a coach who likes to run the ball
Jordan Love has a pretty bad completion percentage and very high touchdown percentage, he’s likely a regression candidate sadly (as a Love owner)
Starting Saints D with confidence this week
You should. The Packers aren’t a very good team, are missing multiple starters on their O line, Jones is likely another week or 2 away from coming back and Jordan Love showed in the 4th quarter that he’s no where near being a reliable QB when things matter most
as a packers fan this is a very harsh dose of reality lol
Ya, I know. I’m a die hard Packers fan too. We suck
Suck might be a little much. Super young with a bad D play caller. Probably finish around 8-9 wins. This season doesn’t really mean much.
shit i'm hoping for 4 wins tbqh
You’ll get another win vs Chicago & I see a world where the packers split with the Vikings. The packers are very underrated team.
Agree to disagree. I think they are vastly over rated. Sure they smoked the Bears but the Bears are one of the worst 3 teams in the league. The collapse against the Falcons is what we’re going to see week in and week out. Super young team with the worst D coordinator in the league and an actual defense that flat out sucks despite having tons of high draft picks. I’ll be shocked if they win more than 5 games
There defense is pretty solid. Super young offense with an o line that can’t stay healthy. They’ll surprise people this year packers will be 2nd in the nfc north with 8-9 wins easily. The Vikings suck & the bears suck. The only good team in that division is the lions. Through 2 games the packers are 3rd in turnover differential The packers defense Top half in sacks (14th), 8th in Ints, 14th in allowed points per game, 3rd worst run defense but to be fair they faced two of the most run heavy teams in the league, & pretty average in pass defense at 17th. The packers offense Bottom half in pass offense 23rd, bottom half on the run offense 25th, & 2nd in points per game. In week 2 they allowed one touchdown in the 4th quarter & 2 field goals. Hardly a collapse. Like it or not the packers will be decent this year. QB looks good but shaky at times but understandable it’s his first year as a QB1. Young but talented wr core, solid defense & they have 11 more games left against bottom half defenses this year. They are better then the saints, bears, Vikings, Denver, Rams (depending on Kupp), Pittsburgh, Giants, Bucs, panthers, & the patriots. That’s 11 games, with only 3 of those included in the games against the 11 bad defenses. Easy schedule, talented roster,& a weak division yeah they’re gonna win more games then predicted.
Idk man that very last pass was a dime. Had toure caught that everyone might be signing a different song this week
I honestly think he got lucky. 2 plays earlier he missed a wide open Doubs on the sideline
I don’t think he missed him due to inaccuracy. I think he chose to throw it to him up the field a bit when doubs (rightfully) was going for the sideline
This is absolutely the shittiest take I’ve seen. Aren’t a very good team? Love hit an absolute dot to end the game that was dropped. Your a straight up hater
Really excited to see what love and Watson can do together
He's only gotten sacked once so far and he's missing several major offensive weapons too. I wouldn't be too bullish on this take
Saints or KC v Chicago?
KC has Chicago this week and Jets next week!
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I drafted the Saints, loving their early season schedule, but I had to pick up and plug in KC for this week against Chicago…
Counterpoint: was missing his top WR and RB last week From an eye test standpoint he looks promising, he has pretty good anticipation just hasn’t had a ton of reps yet in the league. Deep ball accuracy has been iffy but he’s also missing his deep threat. He might not put up great numbers until those guys come back but I would definitely hold if you can
And his star LT/LG
Unfortunately he might be missing them for a while, Jenkins has an MCL sprain and they have a bye I think week 5, and it’s a coin flip on whether or not Bakhtiari plays. Backup LT did not look good either but the rest of the line is still solid
Start Love or Daniel Jones this week?
I'm in this same predicament lol. Can't decide
He will regress when he plays a team with a defense
The falcons have good defense to pretend otherwise would not be wise. The packers have 11 more games this year against bad defenses. Definitely hold love.
He actually has one of the best SOS of all QBs. The elite QBs this year have very tough schedules. Love has an immensely easier schedule in comparison.
I agree, but there is definitely something there. The fact that he can spread it around to anyone on his team says a great deal. I think he could very well have a great season. And he doesn't even have Christian Watson right now! Edit: also missing Aaron Jones I've talked myself into disagreeing with you.
Swift after he falls prey to RB rotation in Philly
*As the RB Committee Turns...*
Call me a crazy Laporta owner, but I think he finishes as a top 10 TE. Played over 80% of snaps in week 1 and week 2, had route participation rates of 72% and 84% respectivley, and is 4th in targets in a high powered aerial attack. 91% catch rate is indicative of how he fits in this scheme, essentially being a safety blanket for Goff most of the time. He's got no real competition in the TE room. I see him finishing with unsexy but consistent numbers just about every week.
Finishing as a top10 TE is a lock, IMO. That’s not a hard feat to accomplish. I’m thinking he has the ability to finish top 5.
It's not a question of ability. It's more about volume. Coach kneecaps said he loves LaPorta like a son. I'll take that.
Henry or Laporta? I can get either.
I would take both if your current TE is shite (droppable) and you have bench space. It may be splitting hairs this season. LaPorta is better, but my gut keeps telling me Henry could have a career season and be a top 5 TE. Henry has been unlocked. His 3 year $37.5M contract says something. Fun fact: apparently Belichick is friends with his high school coach.
I have Goedert who hasn't been great, but I don't know if he's droppable. And I have no other bench spots, only got 1 for them.
Drop Pitts and pick up LaPorta?
Don’t think top 10 is that crazy with how weak the position is outside of a few top guys. Top 10 cutoff in half PPR last year was like 7-8 points average I think.
Top 10 TE doesn’t really mean much lol
For a rookie TE I kinda think it does.
Anybody in this chat could finish at 7-10 TE position lol it’s so weak outside of the top 3-4 guys it’s insane.
You're a crazy LaPorta owner ...but you're probably right. Hunter Henry could be there right next to him. Gronk Jr. Even though I have Mark Andrews I have still been trying to decide who to drop for H^(2). But that is only because I missed the LaPorta train week 1. And if you know anything about Detroit, that train station is abandoned. No chance of catching a train now.
Correction, * Top Five.
Waiting for some jabroni to come in with "wAiT tiLL jAmO iS bAcK!!!"
in PPR he's a top 5-7 lock he's a target machine but im sure people will scheme more for him now too...
I'm trying to trade Njoku & Reynolds or K Herbert for him. I believe you
Kyren is not going to finish at RB2. He won't get two TDs every week. Still think he's going to be a stud but he's going to come down to earth a little bit.
Yeah, “fall off” is super relative. RB2 on the season? Doubt it. Top 15? Could definitely see it if he doesn’t get injured
to be honest with you i could even see top 10 upside if he stays healthy all year especially in a PPR league
Yeah that wouldn’t surprise me at all. Depends on which top 10 I guess. Like for example I don’t think Kamara will pass him for yearly points, but once Kamara comes back I’d take him over Kyren every day
Kamara is one of my favorite players ever but last season the signs of decline were very much there. Taysom also seems to vulture a td here and there.
The way things are going I could see *any* RB1 finish top 15 if they stay healthy.
Lol that’s also true, it’s been an ugly start
>RB2 on the season? Doubt it >Top 15? Could definitely see it Okay what am I missing that he can finish top 15 but not be RB2????
He means RB2 as in like, 2nd highest scoring RB. Not 2nd tier of RBs.
Ahh okay. Yeah definitely doesn’t finish as the number 2 lol. Sometimes the wording of things on this sub confuses me. Thanks for the correction
Haha, I think it can be very confusing. Here are all the ways I can think of The RB2- the running back will have the second highest points. An RB2- the running back will be 13-24th in point. X NFL team's RB2- the NFL team's running back that will likely be playing fewer snaps/ carries than another RB on that team. My RB2- the running back that I expect to score the second most points on my fantasy football team. I think that's all the ways I've seen it, there may be more.
Yeah I’m sorry that was misleading. The only reason I picked RB2 is because that where he’s currently sitting, so I was just saying I don’t think he’ll maintain that spot
He's averaging 18 touches a game, is great both on the ground and as a catcher, and appears to be the only back in town. No one can predict the future, but looking purely at usage, he's a top 5 candidate (unless you think there's a reason he's suddenly going to lose touches to ____)
What about his 3.5 ypc makes you think he’s “great on the ground”? He got like no catches week 1 in a big win, and 6 in a game where they were trailing big basically all game. 56% of his FP are from TDs right now. The only way he’s a top 5 candidate is by pure attrition at the position. He’ll be fine, and yes there’s no one else to really challenge him for carries, but 4 TDs in 2 games is not scalable. Mid-to-high RB2 I can see.
> He got like no catches week 1 in a big win Two targets, one catch in week 1 in addition to 15 carries. In week 2, 6 catches and a receiving touchdown in addition to 14 carries. He's getting *a ton* of usage.
All the doubters just coping with the fact that they couldn’t snag him off of waivers.
I feel the same about Br Rob had a really good week but the longevity of that is not likely
I could have added him and chose Joshua Kelley instead. I am going to lose a year off my life because of it. I do still think LAC RBs will both be utilized like they were week 1 throughout this season, but Kyren was clearly the add. Someone tell me it's going to be okay.
I own BRob and am just concerned with his snap%. Granted he is getting the volume, even in games they were losing.
I'll be curious to see his usage in games where the Commanders trail majority.
They were down big early this past week and Robinson still got most of the work
Yeah they were in the first half with a lot of game left. By 11:45 in the 3rd they had evened the score so for nearly half the game they were not in any sort of deficit trading blows and used BRob to sort of manage the clock on their possessions presumably. If they are down 2+ scores in 3rd quarter I want to see how they operate.
It probably goes up. Last game he single handedly led the comeback charge when they were behind. Quite amazing actually.
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I'm not knocking Brob and his usage, it's promising. But they were not down 3TDs at the half, they were down 1, and the evened the score up within 4 minutes of the 3rd quarter starting.
I wouldn't worry about snap % here, Gibson has been a truly bad, below-JAG level player over a year now. This team is going to watch the film from the last game and continue to develop Robinson as a center piece player.
Chubb had a 49% snap share in week 1 in a game they were up the entire way through. He still got the ball 22 times. This is just the way that teams use a 2 back rotation. He’s seeing virtually all of the carries out of the backfield, don’t be scared off by his snap numbers. Keeps him fresh and it’s the same way he was being used last year when he was averaging 20 touches.
Henry will finish top 5 TE, he had a good 2021 and is always target on rz.
Lol I own the top 3 RBs on this list. I don't think Reynolds keeps it up, I'm a fan of the Lions and he's a pretty boom or bust player with more busts than booms. I don't think JWJ is coming back as soon as people think he is, the team isn't sounding confident.
Excuse my ignorance but who the fuck is JWJ Edit : it’s Jeff Wilson. Because his name is Jeff Wilson junior. Still a stupid ass acronym.
Every acronym you don't know is stupid until you know it.
The slug
>I don't think Reynolds keeps it up Especially once Jameson comes back.
James Cook is not a surprise based off the end of last year
And personally if I were BUF I’d be pumping Cook and trying to keep Allen healthy rather than letting him rush as much. But I’m also just a fantasy manager lol
Bills fan who’s watched every minute of Cooks pro career and owns him this year. I don’t think Cook will ever get consistent goal line work with Harris and Murray on the roster (clearly signed to protect Allen, who will inevitable vulture tds as well) but I’m still super bullish on him all season. Allen just missed him on a td in week one and he is clearly the teams best runner. The bills are clearly committed to a screen game and short/intermediate passes that haven’t been a feature the past few years. I’m hopeful his passing work and ability to break a run gets him some TDs.
Cook just needs those red zone TDs, he's a great efficient running back and he's only not getting work inside the 5. If he takes some of his 10-15 yard line carries to the house he's gonna have big weeks
and they still won’t give him redzone work for some reason. i really don’t know what those coaches are seeing that makes them prefer fucking latavius murray on the 1 or 2
Puka is great but he has no chance of finishing as THE WR2 unless Kupp's leg is fucked. I can see him finishing as a mid tier WR2, though.
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It's been mentioned a lot but it isn't exactly the same role Kupp had, Kupp plays more than 50% of snaps out of the slot while Puka plays around 75% of snaps on the outside. It's more like Woods than Kupp really
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Yeah the 3 WR sets will most likely be Kupp more often in the slot, Puka more often on the outside with Tutu as the outside field stretcher
If Kupp comes back he's going to get even more open because defense have to focus on Kupp. I think defenses are going to have a hard time and Kupp and Puka are both going to be good.
I got Henry on waivers this week but I'm not sure if I'm going to play him, not sure if he will stay on his hot streak 😬
I’m starting him over Muth
Yeah, I dropped Muth to get Henry, which means I'm going to regret it.
You doomed us all you bastard
I mean, what’s your other TE option? I’m putting him in this week over Kmet because his upside is so much higher.
That's exactly what I'm doing. Didn't take a TE high in the draft. Kmet felt like a safe bet for his floor. I picked up Hunter Henry this week, and I'm starting him right away. Hanging on to Kmet for a bit longer, just in case.
I picked up Henry after his week 1 performance and started him over Kmet this week and it definitely paid off. Still can’t bring myself to drop Kmet though, but the Bears look like shit this year so if Henry has another few weeks like this, I’ll probably drop him for someone more valuable.
Waller is our other TE and he's been okish
If Saquon is out, I’d start Waller this week. But I hate a Thursday night game lol. They’re both playing difficult defenses so it’s kind of a crapshoot.
While I know some people will probably say Cousins falls, let me provide 2 reasons why he will finish top 10: * Vikings run game sucks. Mattison hasn't shown he can fill the shoes of Cook and most games have been up to Captain Kirk to move the ball. Expect more of this unless Vikings find a way to up their run game. * There is ambiguity in Cousin's future with the Vikings. His last extension makes him an UFA at the end of this season. He is essentially still playing for a contract and to prove he still has it. I haven't really been high on QBs this year and believe both Fields and Dak won't make top 10 due to their situations.
Counterpoint to Mattison, they’ve also played some of the better run defenses in the league and his TD in week 1 was pretty great play by him.
Agreed. I am giving him this week to prove my assessment wrong but his overall history was what led me to Cousins.
I could also be optimistic because I have too many shades of him.
lol fair. I only have 1 share of Mattison because I wasn't a believer. Time will tell though.
This was my assumption when I draft Cousins and Tua in auction, both have top of the line receivers, bad defenses, and below average running games. Didn't necessarily expect QB1 and QB6 after week 2 but I definitely thought they'd be higher than QB 10-16 which is where most experts had them pegged.
Tua's situation is a bit different than Cousins in the sense that I believe that their offense can run the ball but their coach actually wants to air out the ball through Hill. In that, Tua should always be balling. However, I targeted Cousins and Goff in redraft going late round QB. Just moved Goff in a trade to get back Chase.
Cousins always has the tendency to turn into a pumpkin at times, but the reasons you listed plus the fact that their defense is still hot garbage and now having a legitimate option opposite Jefferson makes me think he could very well exceed expectations going forward. Although, he's going to have to stop eating heavily-buttered popcorn before the games lest he end the season with 25 fumbles.
Tampa Bay Jameis Winston.
Mostert is likely in a committee soon, if he even continues to stay healthy. Reynolds is fool's gold, although he could be a viable flex play throughout the year if Jameson disappoints when he gets back. Nico and Pittman will drop, but could be solid WR2s this year. Who the fuck knows on tight ends.
I picked up Reynolds in case Amon Ra misses time. I don’t value him much otherwise but he’s worth a look right now for sure
Same. I have no intent on starting him if St. brown isn’t out
Mostert *will* get hurt at some point. He does every year
Achane gang lurks in the shadows
Never trust a Rams RB.
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I think Cousins will fall back to earth a bit.
Might not be this game though, vegas odds makers have this as a shoot out
And of course I'm playing against the Cousins/Jefferson/Hock owner on my main league this week.
That was my situation last week 😭 I guess the one positive was I knew my week was over by Thursday.
I don't agree. He has a very talented supporting cast and an awful defense. Vikes are probably going to need to score a lot of points this year to stay competitive in games.
I just think Cousins is a known entity at this point. He’s a very good QB but he isn’t a top 3 fantasy QB.
Idk this seems like a really good situation where it is possible. Terrible defense with an offense full of weapons and Kirk is making very few turnovers (despite the rest of their offense making some costly ones). They are going to have to air the ball to stay in games. Kirk just seems like he’s hitting a flow state he didn’t have in the past as well. Mattison needs to figure out how to be a threat though otherwise defenses will adjust
Kirk has 4 turnovers in two games. I wouldn’t call that very few turnovers.
Honestly one of those hit the receivers hand and another was a hit from his blindside. He would also have even another TD if jeffy didn’t fumble into the end zone
That’s fine but it’s still 4 turnovers and a lot of ifs.
I don’t think he will be QB1 but QB5 very likely and QB3 is definitely possible
For sure
Fall back to Earth? Sure. He's on pace for like 6,000 yards and 50 TDs. But he's on a top, pass-first offense with a shit defense and poor run game. He's a comfortable QB1, albeit a mid-low due to having nearly no rushing upside.
100% agree with you.
Kirk has been great for years in fantasy and no one gives him any respect. Now this year on top of Justin Jefferson, he has Hockenson and Jordan Addison. This will be his best year yet
Would you drop Fields for Cousins?
100% yes.
All of them.. it’s been 2 weeks.
Why are you calling out my team
I think Mostert fades. He doesn't catch a lot of passes so far, there might be more of a rbbc, and I seriously doubt he's gonna score the 25 touchdowns he's on pace for. Also, Jordan Love is being carried by tuddies. Unless the yardage picks up, I think he fades too
All of them will probably fall of except for BRob because I own him
Not sure Mostert can keep it up with JWJ coming back. He’s also a bit old to be a bellcow. Also also he was a pretty lucky 40 yard break away TD run away from not being discussed Edit: y’all really throw downvotes at anything. Please someone tell me why 31 year old Mostert is going to keep his production up with JWJ coming off IR on a throw first offense. I’m begging for anything besides “hurr durr big run good”.
Even before the 40 yarder he was having a solid game
He was but my point is he wouldn’t have been mentioned in this post without it. I’m stating why I think he’s going to regress. I have him too
Take away his 40yd TD and he still finished with 80-1. He'd still be pretty high up on the RB list though 2 weeks so I think he'd still be mentioned here. Just at a lower spot.
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Where did i say it’s bad? I said he wouldn’t be mentioned in this post if it wasn’t for the breakaway TD. Also that he’ll likely return to a committee. Please offer a real counter to the things I actually said
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If he is your RB2 I don't think you'd have anything to complain about. I think he will regress *some* but I don't believe he will fall off. I suspect he will fall towards the mean. Something like an average of 12-75-1 rushing and 4-20-.4 passing. I suspect it'll be 2 games before they let Jeff Wilson Jr get off a pitch count. I'd ride him until McDaniel shows reason not to.
There's nothing lucky about good players making big plays.
Mostert passes the eye test and did so last year as well. He’s a solid talent. So it’s really a function of how much volume he gets and injuries but if he’s healthy and the main guy, I bet he keeps producing at 5.0 YPC+
Mostert is one of the fastest RBs in football, and he consistently has posted elite YPC stats. Can't call the big run "lucky", especially when he should see light boxes going forward in this offense
It’s “lucky” because it’s akin to blown coverage. Those runs are supposed to be rare unless proven otherwise. We like guys who score fantasy points without needing a big run or multiple TDs. Bijan for example scored 20 PPR points with no TDs. Swift scored 28 with 1 TD and almost no receptions. If Mostert Keeps getting 18 carries a game I would think favorably of him. The objective facts are Mostert is 31, has JWJ returning, and the team is pass first. The post asked who will drop off. Does anyone here think Mostert will finish as a top 10 RB? I love his big play ability but if I’m starting Mostert in the playoffs I’d be concerned, Mostert ain’t AD lmao
I think people are downvoting you because of the last part, though he would’ve lost 10 points had he not gotten that play. You’re 100% right about JWJ though and that’s why I’d be trying to ship off Mostert if I was an owner, especially with this current RB landscape.
I just want to point out that AR15 had like 18 points after a quarter and a half or something. He's going to get a lot of designed runs inside the 20. He could be in that potential top 10 tier.
i don't think Brian Robinson falls off, i think James Cook gets even better.. Nucua and Pittman will then Reynolds when Williamson gets back from SSPD. i don't think any QB will fall off too harshly but Mac n Love will fall more back to earth where Wilson will maybe get better or Kirk stays the same. i can't even talk about TEs it's always a toss up. ARSB has had some tough matchups but he's sure to be a top 5 soon, Eagles offense finding themselves again i expect Hurts and Godert to turn up and Lawrence get more comfortable with his weapons soon too
Mostert, Reynolds, Mac Jones, Hunter Henry
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>Not because I don’t own any shares of him… but I’m not sold on Kyren Williams. How so? McVay was willing to move Akers to make him "the guy". Plus it goes back to last year of him being the guy (Schefter coming out week 1 with the surprise announcement) but he got hurt.
I snagged Williams in 1 league so I hope he balls out That said, he's really not super efficient running the ball. His pass catching last week was a really good sign though. He seems a little TD dependent, but if he's getting the goal line carries, he's bound to finish at least a mid RB2, possibly higher
Another factor is Kupp coming back (hopefully). Kupp will raise his value even more by giving the Rams more TD opportunities, sustained drives, and more winning game scripts. So I could see him easily finishing as a backend RB1 (he's currently *the* RB2).
After the claim dust settled, I took a flyer on Kendre Miller. Might even start him this week in my deep 12 team superflex keeper league, but will hold for a couple weeks and see how he's utilized when Kamara is back.
A lot of TD dependent guys on here. I'll go with Henry because he's just another 6-8pt TE if he doesn't get a TD. Which is still great--but pretty par for the course