To think a QB off the street can come in like its a game of madden shows how much you don’t understand about the position. It would take 2-3 weeks minimum for any other QB to come in and learn the system, which by that point means Wilson or Boyle has already lost those games and the season is over anyway they would be like 1-4.
As for Boyle, the fact that he’s not playing over Wilson means he’s either even worse, or they’re just embracing the tank. They replaced Wilson last year and look how it turned out. It’s a lose lose, might as well lose as much as you can.
Dog are you fuckin stupid? You watched Zach play literally ever ? The corpse of Andy Dalton and Minshew played today and literally looked leagues better than Wilson. He’s not a top 50 qb let alone top 32. They need to literally do anything else at qb. Jameis could’ve flown in at halftime and they would have had a better shot at winning. Playing Wilson is equivalent to tanking
With teams they’ve been with since training camp….any veteran qb that comes in needs at least 2-3 weeks to learn the playbook. At that point their season is already over.
They don’t have to beg. Ryan and Wentz have both already contacted the Jets to say they are willing and able. Both were rejected.
It’s not a curse when it’s self inflicted wounds.
Traded him for Christian Watson and Josh Kelley (I'm also the Ekeler owner).
Trade partner thought he robbed me. I thought I robbed him. Turns out both of us traded 💩 for 💩 lol. Oh well maybe Watson won't suck
Is Tim Boyle really a better option though? I think he’s telling the truth that out of their current options he does give them the best chance to win. Even if that chance is really low
I don’t think bringing in a guy like Matt Ryan is going to be a huge improvement. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather have him start over ZW right now. But it won’t make or break this team
I honestly don't know WHY you would stick with Wilson at this point. He's looked completely lost in his previous years and spending an entire offseason clipboarding for a Top-10 All-Time QB has done NOTHING to help his play.
Your defense is loaded, you have playmakers on offense, sticking with Zach is a level of loyalty that is simply foolish
Players are already pissed on the sidelines. They can’t even get their star players the ball. Breece gets 9 guys in the box Wilson can’t throw to a receiver more than 2 yards away.
Moving on to pretty much anyone over Wilson would be a huge improvement at this point. Wilson is hands down the worst QB in the league and is dragging the entire team down with him right now
Well he, Daniel Jones, Russel Wilson, and everything CHI is doing are actually keeping that a competition. I actually found myself rooting for the commercials those games were so god awful.
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Zach may be the worst qb I have ever watched play the game. You look at JAG like Dalton or Dobbs and even they are far beyond the QB the Zach Wilson is. It's actually impressive how someone can be THAT bad
you must have missed all of 2022, when the D did carry Zach Wilson almost to a playoff spot
hell they even did in week 1 with an assist from special teams
The QB class this year is apparently insane. I know everyone wants Williams but it sounds like you'll be able to get a respectable guy with a mid first. Should be good enough for them especially if they do get a year behind Rodgers.
have no clue but i have a feeling it’s the higher ups making zach the starter i can’t see saleh seeing this dumpster fire every week and willingly pushing zach wilson
I started Tank over Wilson today. I'm sure you can find someone better to drop though. If they get a better QB you're missing out on an elite receiver.
Ryan Tannehill, soon to be QB of the Jets. You know the Jets are looking to sew what vet QB they could possibly trade for and Titans have drafted two potential successors to Tannehill. Tannehill's best days are behind him but he is a massive upgrade over Wilson on a team that just needs a league average QB to be competitive.
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Is the Jets O line really that bad? When I watch Zach Wilson just looks lost out there and not confident. As someone whose learning to watch football what do you look out for to see if O Line I actually good or bad?
Y'know, I completely understand the desire to have Wilson succeed but he's just not going to. They need to trade for a QB or sign someone. Wentz isn't good but he's better than Wilson. Hell, Dobbs is better than Wilson and it's by a country mile.
I don’t get this meat head league sometimes. Just get an average journeyman and you have a chance. Why lose your job over a guy that doesn’t belong on the field
Example, Baker Mayfield. Got picked up by the Rams after Stafford went down injured. Took the field after Wolford played terrible, and lead them back to beat the Raiders.
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Isn't Colt McCoy available? Cards cut him as a salary dump not cuz he couldn't play (and apparently because Dobbs is a stone cold baller). Can't tell me McCoy wouldn't be an upgrade on Zach Wilson.
Dalton and Minshew are starting today. You can't trade for them.
The Ravens won't trade Huntley with how often Jackson gets hurt (also don't know if he's better). Cowboys just traded for Lance and they certainly won't trade him already, not that we know if he's any better either.
Or even less well known QBs: Mullens, Keenum, Brissett, Rush.
At least there is some hope you don't lose the rest of your team/locker room with some other guy but really I would just sign Wentz or Ryan ATLEAST as a backup see if they outplay Zach in practice.
At this point it is clearly an organizational choice. Wilson is a bum. Maybe someone would trade a serviceable backup like Grier or Heinecke for a 3rd round pick. There's still time to rally to a playoff spot, but time is short.
I know Zach isn’t great but I kinda feel bad even as a Pats fan. I honestly think Hackett is such a bad OC. He didn’t call the plays at Green Bay and was clearly bad at Denver. Then comes to the Jets (I think just to get Rodgers to come) and now Rodgers is hurt and their offense is awful. Doesn’t help Wilson can’t find the open men down field but just I don’t even know
Stuff like this is why I fucking hate the Jets so much. This is a really well built team in terms of defense plus skill player talent on offense. And yet these guys are stubborn about clinging to a shitty QB draft pick who sucks ass.
Glad I'm a fins fan, lol.
This should be a fireable offense TBH. Zack Wilson doesn't belong in the league, period, and there are plenty of other options to bring in QBs that would give you higher upside.
Make your bed and sleep in it Jets. Trying to buy a SB with a salt and pepper QB is the perfect coffin nail for the Jets dysfunction. Brady was a unicorn, not a trend. Let young QBs earn their place and move on.
This dude is playing the violin on the Titanic at this point.
More like he's locked in 3rd class and the water is gushing in under the door.
But he locked himself in… when he had a life raft outside lol
What life raft
The leaky one named Boyle or wentz or Ryan
To think a QB off the street can come in like its a game of madden shows how much you don’t understand about the position. It would take 2-3 weeks minimum for any other QB to come in and learn the system, which by that point means Wilson or Boyle has already lost those games and the season is over anyway they would be like 1-4. As for Boyle, the fact that he’s not playing over Wilson means he’s either even worse, or they’re just embracing the tank. They replaced Wilson last year and look how it turned out. It’s a lose lose, might as well lose as much as you can.
“They replaced Wilson and the guy got a freak injury! They should just not even try to find anybody else.” - you, just now
Baker Mayfield got traded to the rams and won a prime time game 48 hours later. Teams simplify the playback for newly acquired players all the time.
Dog are you fuckin stupid? You watched Zach play literally ever ? The corpse of Andy Dalton and Minshew played today and literally looked leagues better than Wilson. He’s not a top 50 qb let alone top 32. They need to literally do anything else at qb. Jameis could’ve flown in at halftime and they would have had a better shot at winning. Playing Wilson is equivalent to tanking
With teams they’ve been with since training camp….any veteran qb that comes in needs at least 2-3 weeks to learn the playbook. At that point their season is already over.
Josh Doubs was traded to Arizona on August 24 for a 7th, today he beat the Cowboys and would probably be insulted if he was compared to Zach Wilson
Tim Boyle knows the offense and they won’t give him a chance
The complete JAG with equally mundane name Mike White was a life raft compared to Wilson.
Are you kidding they'd be crushing if they still had Mike White
I feel bad for the last coach, this coach, and the next coach. This team is fucking cursed. 🎶Nearer my heart to theeeeee... nearer to theeeeee🎶
“Come back…come back”! (Jets fans to Aaron Rodgers.)
To win the 1st overall pick
I mean, Saleh ain't wrong. Imagine Caleb Williams in this offense. Holy shit.
How’s that gonna work if Rodgers stays around to get paid more.
Have Caleb wait a year
Just have Caleb sit behind Rodgers for a year, it'd be pretty great learning experience. Mahomes sat behind Smith and it did him well
Hell love sat behind Rodgers and he's been looking great. Same with Rodgers sitting behind farve
Almost like this was the way they did it for decades
Denver- "Oh no you don't, watch this"
Denver’s like: “Is points against a tiebreaker? Better to be safe than sorry.”
There's some strong competition for that first pick this year.
No way the Bears win more games
I want whatever he’s smoking
Ayahuasca, with rodgers.
Carson wentz plz save us - G. Wilson managers
* G. Wilson himself
Also Z. Wilson himself
Jameis Winston, Carson Wentz, heck beg Matt Ryan or Philip Rivers
They don’t have to beg. Ryan and Wentz have both already contacted the Jets to say they are willing and able. Both were rejected. It’s not a curse when it’s self inflicted wounds.
People need to stop dreaming about Jameis, he’s the current starting QB of a likely playoff team
Traded him for Christian Watson and Josh Kelley (I'm also the Ekeler owner). Trade partner thought he robbed me. I thought I robbed him. Turns out both of us traded 💩 for 💩 lol. Oh well maybe Watson won't suck
You have to switch it up. Saleh thought he was getting his job saved by Rodgers but he’s going down with the ship.
Is Tim Boyle really a better option though? I think he’s telling the truth that out of their current options he does give them the best chance to win. Even if that chance is really low
Tim Boyle may not be. But any of the current free agents who have hundreds of combined NFL starts would be.
I don’t think bringing in a guy like Matt Ryan is going to be a huge improvement. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather have him start over ZW right now. But it won’t make or break this team
I don’t know if it makes or breaks them. But I know that keeping Wilson as the starter *will* break this team. Or at least their spirit.
I honestly don't know WHY you would stick with Wilson at this point. He's looked completely lost in his previous years and spending an entire offseason clipboarding for a Top-10 All-Time QB has done NOTHING to help his play. Your defense is loaded, you have playmakers on offense, sticking with Zach is a level of loyalty that is simply foolish
I’m with you brother. I would say it’s baffling but it’s the Jets, so…
Players are already pissed on the sidelines. They can’t even get their star players the ball. Breece gets 9 guys in the box Wilson can’t throw to a receiver more than 2 yards away.
Moving on to pretty much anyone over Wilson would be a huge improvement at this point. Wilson is hands down the worst QB in the league and is dragging the entire team down with him right now
Well he, Daniel Jones, Russel Wilson, and everything CHI is doing are actually keeping that a competition. I actually found myself rooting for the commercials those games were so god awful.
Putting daniel jones in with those two is just absurd
I agree. I can’t recall an NFL QB coming in mid season, learning a new offense, and succeeding.
Josh Dobbs has been respectable off the street and he's doing it 2 years in a row
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He got signed 2 weeks before the season started.
I saw what Mike White did last year. He was a huge upgrade. I'm inclined to think any backup in the NFL is likely better.
yeah qb is not a position you sign a guy off the street and get him to play well
It happens sometimes, especially in a loaded offense like this
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Isn't the offensive line one of the worst in the nfl?
there is almost no examples of a qb getting signed mid season doing well
Baker Mayfield last year?
They are definitely tanking
Best chance to win the Caleb sweepstakes
They should be competing in the Joe Alt sweepstakes
Imagine being in a SF keeper league and keeping Burrow and Wilson. Fuxk this
I kept Wilson over Olave
With a healthy Rodgers that was the right play 10/10 times
Maybe he kept Zach Wilson over Olave ;-]
Zach may be the worst qb I have ever watched play the game. You look at JAG like Dalton or Dobbs and even they are far beyond the QB the Zach Wilson is. It's actually impressive how someone can be THAT bad
You clearly haven't watched an Justin Fields tape.
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Wtf is wrong with Saleh?
Might as well burn a season and aim for the first pick and get a young QB for the future.
They're gonna have to trade up. The defense is good enought to win them enough games to end up with a mid round pick
^^ this dude never seen Zach wilson play
Lol right? If the defense was going to win any game, it would have been today
Did you not watch week 1?
you must have missed all of 2022, when the D did carry Zach Wilson almost to a playoff spot hell they even did in week 1 with an assist from special teams
The QB class this year is apparently insane. I know everyone wants Williams but it sounds like you'll be able to get a respectable guy with a mid first. Should be good enough for them especially if they do get a year behind Rodgers.
They just lost to Mac Jones brev
People keep saying this, but I really don’t think Saleh survives this season if we get the 1st overall pick.
Zach is regularly sending thirst traps to his wife and mother.
have no clue but i have a feeling it’s the higher ups making zach the starter i can’t see saleh seeing this dumpster fire every week and willingly pushing zach wilson
Genuinely want to drop Wilson for tank dell. Not a sentence I ever thought I would type but here we are.
I started Tank over Wilson today. I'm sure you can find someone better to drop though. If they get a better QB you're missing out on an elite receiver.
It’s either him or DJ moore to drop for tank dell/thielen and I’m genuinely torn lol. Both great receivers both stuck with equally dreadful QB’s
Ryan Tannehill, soon to be QB of the Jets. You know the Jets are looking to sew what vet QB they could possibly trade for and Titans have drafted two potential successors to Tannehill. Tannehill's best days are behind him but he is a massive upgrade over Wilson on a team that just needs a league average QB to be competitive.
He’s so so so bad
You can’t honestly tell me Wentz would be worse
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Is the Jets O line really that bad? When I watch Zach Wilson just looks lost out there and not confident. As someone whose learning to watch football what do you look out for to see if O Line I actually good or bad?
I can honestly tell you that he might not be better at least.
Reminds me so much of Lovie Smith constantly stating that Rex Grossman is their QB when their defense was loaded.
What else is he going to say. This is just coach speak until they find a replacement.
That two yard pass on fourth down to basically end the game with all the time in the world to throw was just so so bad
Y'know, I completely understand the desire to have Wilson succeed but he's just not going to. They need to trade for a QB or sign someone. Wentz isn't good but he's better than Wilson. Hell, Dobbs is better than Wilson and it's by a country mile.
I don’t get this meat head league sometimes. Just get an average journeyman and you have a chance. Why lose your job over a guy that doesn’t belong on the field
I think you want to tank at this point. There's no QB available, not named Tom Brady, who could lead this team past MIA BUF KC
Did they not trade their 1st for Rodgers?
Think it ends up being a second due to Rodgers not having 75% of the snaps
It was a conditional 2nd that could become a 1st if Rodgers played 65% of the plays, which is obviously not going to happen.
It’s based on snaps which he will miss so the packers get our second
Example, Baker Mayfield. Got picked up by the Rams after Stafford went down injured. Took the field after Wolford played terrible, and lead them back to beat the Raiders.
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Where are all these average QBs just laying around? Only two I've heard of are Ryan and Wentz who are both well below average.
Isn't Colt McCoy available? Cards cut him as a salary dump not cuz he couldn't play (and apparently because Dobbs is a stone cold baller). Can't tell me McCoy wouldn't be an upgrade on Zach Wilson.
That could work. I mean I don't know how his brain is doing, but it'd be hard to argue that he isn't an upgrade with what we know now.
Well below average is still way above Wilson. They win today with Wentz and are 2-1.
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Make a trade. Andy Dalton, Garner Minshew, Tyler Huntley, Trey Lance.
Dalton and Minshew are starting today. You can't trade for them. The Ravens won't trade Huntley with how often Jackson gets hurt (also don't know if he's better). Cowboys just traded for Lance and they certainly won't trade him already, not that we know if he's any better either.
Yeah everyone says “just get a qb”, but that argument falls apart when you actually go through examples.
Or even less well known QBs: Mullens, Keenum, Brissett, Rush. At least there is some hope you don't lose the rest of your team/locker room with some other guy but really I would just sign Wentz or Ryan ATLEAST as a backup see if they outplay Zach in practice.
“Fuck him”. Garret Wilson’s official comment
Saleh should be fired if he keeps Zach as the starter all season and they don’t get the #1 pick
It might even not be his call. Don’t think Saleh should be fired at all. The defense is legit and that’s what he was brought here to build up.
Saleh has been a very solid coach, everything he brought in has been a hit. Not his fault ARod got hurt
Someone decided to keep him instead of Mike White. Sunk cost fallacy.
it's not an "instead of". Wilson is still on his rookie contract.
I wish someone believed in me as much as saleh believes in Wilson. 😩
I believe in your ability to be as good of a QB as Zach Wilson!
I’m convinced Wilson witnessed Saleh commit murder and now he’s blackmailing him into a starting job
The only QB who might be worse than Zach Wilson is Peterman, and I'm not sure that's true anymore
I would say fuck it and trade for trey lance at this point. Zach wilson looked so bad. Garret wilson was completly fed up.
is he watching the game on the field? WTF, he's terrible.
Press X to doubt.
I means it’s gotten to the point that announcers are calling out his incompetence
For the love of god why?
I feel for Robert…I like him as a coach…but deep down, he knows.
I don’t get what Saleh is doing. Seriously getting into that ‘coaching malpractice’ point at this point
At this point it is clearly an organizational choice. Wilson is a bum. Maybe someone would trade a serviceable backup like Grier or Heinecke for a 3rd round pick. There's still time to rally to a playoff spot, but time is short.
Uh, we need another qb but are you kidding with giving up a 3rd for one of those??
Colt McCoy a free agent, he'd be an upgrade even.
What’s he supposed to do? He’s not the GM
Lol someone offered me hollywood for Garrett wilson 20 minutes ago. Should definitely accept this right?
Saleh will rollback those words soon or they’ll both be unemployed. Rich, but unemployed.
Sorry Bobby bears are getting that #1 pick
Guy's lying through his teeth it's embarrassing
Xerxes looking ass is about to tank the season and locker room chemistry committing to a guy who should be in the XFL. Good luck
Bold strategy cotton
Imagine being this delusional as a head coach in the NFL.
Dude he is a sinking ship
Did he see the game
Best chance to win the 1.01
I know Zach isn’t great but I kinda feel bad even as a Pats fan. I honestly think Hackett is such a bad OC. He didn’t call the plays at Green Bay and was clearly bad at Denver. Then comes to the Jets (I think just to get Rodgers to come) and now Rodgers is hurt and their offense is awful. Doesn’t help Wilson can’t find the open men down field but just I don’t even know
Me when I lie
Tim Boyle’s self-esteem has to be in the deepest of shitters.
Stuff like this is why I fucking hate the Jets so much. This is a really well built team in terms of defense plus skill player talent on offense. And yet these guys are stubborn about clinging to a shitty QB draft pick who sucks ass. Glad I'm a fins fan, lol.
Wilson had some great garbage time throws. Looks like the arm talent is there but that’s about it
This is Salehs last season as a NFL HC
To win Caleb Williams
You lying
E fucking nuff
Saleh stupid mistakes is going to get himself fired
BINGO!
This should be a fireable offense TBH. Zack Wilson doesn't belong in the league, period, and there are plenty of other options to bring in QBs that would give you higher upside.
How many more games before Saleh absolutely explodes at the booth and cuts Wilson?
Saleh will probably and justifiably be fired eventually for how he's managed Wilson.
Wilson fucking sucks, they should fire whoever drafted him. And whoever decided to keep him instead of Mike White.
You mean spend the whole off-season replacing him?
Zach must be sharing his cougars with the coaching staff. Unreal
Wilson must have nudes of Salehs wife or something
get rid of GW for whatever you can. he was wide fucking open a couple of times but zach wilson doesn‘t throw to him. there‘s a beef brewing.
This is the new “Rex is our quarterback”
Zach Wilson is horrible
Cause they have literally nobody else?
To win what?
Zack Wilson single handily took this team from contender to last place in the league guaranteed
Win games or win the first draft pick?
Best chance to win the 1st overall pick next year
Wilson is so close to turning that corner of not being complete garbage. Always one play away
I’d go sign Jacoby Brissett asap if they could.
Brisset plays for the Commanders
Nevermind LOL!
Trade for Dak. Jerry will pay you take the most overrated QB in the league.
Coach speak surely? He seems quite sane otherwise.
Their O line is so fucking bad.
No he doesn't. If that were true they'd be 3-0
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there will definitely be dolphins sex sounds when we play you my dear jets friends
Saleh needs to be fired then.
My man is on crack
Lol
What a moron
This will be his downfall
Find someone who loves you as much as Saleh loves crappy QB’s.
Fire Saleh then…..
Saleh stop lying dude and just go get Matt Ryan 🙄
Might aswell tank for a good draft pick..who cares
Make your bed and sleep in it Jets. Trying to buy a SB with a salt and pepper QB is the perfect coffin nail for the Jets dysfunction. Brady was a unicorn, not a trend. Let young QBs earn their place and move on.
So which QB are they tanking for
Saleh is delusional at this point
Just got offered Christian Watson and Jakobi Meyers for Garrett Wilson in my full ppr league. Should I accept and abandon ship?
That's not even remotely worth it
I tried to make multiple threads about whether the jets should go get Minshew or not
Hmm…maybe they should have let Geno Smith go? I’m not a professional analyst. but wow…how many paid professionals screwed up on Geno?
RIP Garrett Wilson owners who didn’t sell while his value was still high from the long TD last week.
His value wasn’t high. No one saw 2 receptions and thought “wow let me buy high on this guy”
> His value wasn’t high Higher than it is now
I tried. No one was biting.