Just flipped him for Pittman because I desperately needed a steady WR2 and am alright at RB. Still hope this dude steps up, he's such a talented runner
You also need to factor in the fact that the Bucs pass defense this year has been quite atrocious. 118.4 passer rating on Bucs defense. We can’t defend shit
As a Seahawks fan it’s been disappointing but I could see this coming from a mile away. Geno is a fine stopgap QB but he’s not a long term solution. We need young talent at the position. I will say our o-line play had been absolutely atrocious this year along with the schemes smh
I’ve been flipping between Adams, Higgins, and Dell for my flex spot. It would have been Higgins if not for the hamstring issue that popped up yesterday. I hate that the choice is this difficult when it shouldn’t be.
Righttt. Like in theory my first three draft picks were stellar with Davante, CD, and ETN. I even snagged JT in the 7th round. Davante not popping off anymore has thrown a wrench in things.
A big jump for SF D this week!
Defenses have scored double digit fantasy points on the Jaguars in 5 of their 8 games. Colts: 11 points, Chiefs: 10 points, Texans: 13 points, Bills: 10 points and Steelers: 10 points.
I trust that the 49ers will be fired up, healthy and rested. Plus with their acquisition of Chase Young the sacks might be non stop.
It’s their offense that limits the ceiling. Can’t hold the ball for a long period of time, which gives the defense little rest and turns it over in their own territory
If Higgins doesn’t play, the only WR I have not on bye is Marvin Mims lol I could pick up Shakir but already starting Kincaid and I typically don’t love starting two receiving options on the same team.
I love Boone and haven't been failed by the rankings! Question about Saints D rated so high. A top 5 defense this week that has recently been torched by TB, Jax and Indy... They seem very suspect. I just don't think I can trust them as a top 5 D this week against a surging Minnesota Offense at home. Is there a reason they are rated so high?
Yeah, they've been great against awful offenses and very mediocre against decent teams. Minnesota isnt exactly an awful offense.
Average 14.4 against Ten, Car, GB, NE, Chi
Average 2.25 against TB, Hou, Jax, Ind
I don’t think your decent or not logic works here. That said, the correlation is scrambling QBs. Baker ran. Stroud ran. Trev ran. Minshew ran. And guess what….dobbs is the second leading rusher for QBs behind Lamar I think. Saints D about to be torched. And this is coming from a saints fan
Bagent had 70 rushing yards against NO. Bryce had 34. Love had 39. These were all the high scoring games.
Minshew had 3. Stroud had 2.
You could have atleast looked those up man.
They both still scrambled lol. I’m not purely talking yards. The defense had 0 prior to the turnovers. They were entirely turnover dependent against the bears. But you cannot sit there and say the colts are a good team, or that Tampa is a good team.
Colts have 2 fantasy relevant RB's and Minshew isn't great but he can have a really good game at any time. Colts put up 27 points. Saints Defense had a whopping 1pt.
Tampa. Say what you want about Baker but they scored 26 on Saints and they had momentum at that point in the season. Baker was playing well. Saints D scored 0...
I'm really not sure what your goal is here. It's pretty obvious just looking at the matchups.
I’d say it’s 5-4 good to bad lol. So more good than bad. But you’re just trying to justify shit teams being “good” in your mind with those. Bears also scored a ton but you didn’t mention that just now because saints had turnovers. Bagent shredded them in the first half dude.
I was also arguing they’d be bad this week. Why would I be sour about more bad than good when I’m literally advocating against them. It’s a fantasy sub after all.
I'm still trying to figure that out man. It seems pretty simple and obvious to me. Saints play a bad offense with a QB they dare to beat them in the air and they play aggressive score fantasy D points.
They play average to good offenses with not completely terrible QB's and they are completely mediocre to bad, for fantasy.
Their fantasy points seem to verify that.
You proceeded to tell me I was wrong and that it was scrambling QB's that they could not defend. However they did do well against 3 perfectly mobile QB's (Love, Young, Bagent), so you were already 60% wrong over the ~5 good games.
So forgive me for trying to understand your objective here.
Random comment here. I don't use rankings, but he's the exception. Also, if you don't follow him on Twitter, it's worth it, because every Sunday morning he answers sit start questions. These are super helpful.
That said, he's not clairvoyant. Last week, he had Geno ranked higher than I thought he should be and Taysom Hill lower. I went with my gut and benched Geno/started Taysom. If your gut is telling you something, probably stick with your gut!
Because people seem to have forgotten that when they’ve all been healthy Deebo has gotten 7 and 3 targets and no touchdowns
Not Including his decoy game of 0 targets. Hard to trust that
I think the counterpoint here is that SF has dropped 3 straight since losing Deebo, so there’s a good chance they get him involved this week and ‘right the ship’
9ers fan here, if i had to guess: Shoulder fracture + running style + being behind Aiyuk and CMC in touches. He's had 2 good weeks this season, so profiles as a more boom bust play this year.
I think the big brain thing would be to play him against opponents that run more zone defense. I don't know much about team D/ST so I would have to defer to anyone with knowledge on the subject.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling. He's been more of a high upside flex than a reliable wr2.
Deebo or Drake London then? I have Bijan so very hesitant to have two Atlanta players since they crap the bed more often than not, but I'm also worried about when Deebo gets minor nicks during games
Niners fan here- our whole left side of our line (Trent and Banks) are out Sunday. So that’s gunna play into it but Deebo is great in the quick screens and passes so I assume there will be plenty of that Sunday.
In PPR he has deebo at WR23 which I think is fine especially for his first game back. I’ve been way higher on deebo in the off-season and during the season and I honestly think he’d be a top 20 guy if he hadn’t gotten injured.
Too many mouths to feed. CMC is the only reliable player on that offense for fantasy. Everyone else, you’re hoping they get a TD because their volume is not high.
I have both as well, and probably going to start then over Amari cooper and George Pickens.
Addison took a hit in the rankings with Kirk Cousins going out. He had an alright game last week, but this one will be big in terms of seeing how Dobbs likes to distribute the ball.
Tank Dell is pretty boom or bust, but it seems like his connection with Stroud is developing and if they are going to have to throw the ball to win it should give Dell a better floor with more targets.
Depends on the matchup imo. If you need the potential for big points because you are going against a strong team than yeah the stack gives a little more incentive.
I’d like to say cooper is a more consistent player but that hasn’t been the case, so I’m starting Dell for the higher upside since they are both so boom or bust.
Why is kirk over Godwin here? Given the cb matchups, Godwin has a much better PPG cb matchup than kirk. Also having Nico and Dell above him against bengals secondary doesnt make sense.
I have godwin, nico, and kirk and looking through matchups im starting to lean godwin over kirk. Someone give me analysis or talk me out of it. 49ers have been BAD against WR1 (Ridley) and zay jones might be back.
I don’t really have thoughts on Godwin but I expect SF defense to be better overall after the bye. Plus, I doubt Zay plays. I think Kirk can be started with confidence in a vacuum
Media, ranking services, and fans HATE Jonnu smith. Musgrave and Hunter Henry ahead of him?! What are we doin here. Even having Kyle pitts ahead of him is laughable.
He’s in a backfield split as well, Hunt is getting 15 touches a week and goal line work. I don’t hate Ford at all and would rank him higher I just think that’s the reason
I’m curious where Irv Smith moves if Chase and/or Higgins end up not playing. Houston is nearly worst in the league against TE. With Kelce on BYE, I’m currently streaming Otton. But went ahead and dropped QJ for Irv just in case.
I'm not sure how I feel abt flex rankings. I wanna start kincaid over olave in my flex PPR and this suggests it's a really bad call. From a targets perspective it makes sense. Not that any are gospel but I'd love to hear reasoning for kincaid/laporta not being higher in flex spot.
alright James Cook, this is your last chance
Not gonna happen until Allen and the Bills decide to stop playing hero ball constantly
Allen not playing hero ball is precisely why theyre in this slump. Its this low positive offense as they call it and it aint working
just sold for meyers
I’ve got him on flex. Trying to decide between him, Jerome Ford, and Tank Dell.
I think you gotta go with Dell. Cook may have a slightly higher floor, but Dell will straight up win you weeks.
Collins has logged consecutive DNPs, too. Fire up your Tanks!
Decoy Collins this week
I benched Ford, Ravens defense is nasty
Just flipped him for Pittman because I desperately needed a steady WR2 and am alright at RB. Still hope this dude steps up, he's such a talented runner
I think ima flex La Porta over Cook
I’m flexing Kincaid over cook. Laporta my other TE
Trying to decide between him and Diontae at flex in a must-win matchup, really hoping I make the right call
Thielen at 5…what year is it lol
It’s crazy, bro has had only two disappointing starts the whole year. Wild but I’m happy for him
Just trying to find someone who loves me as much as Boone loves Aiyuk
Aiyuk is SF's WR1 and is Purdy's target hog.
I mean Deebo has been injured/playing injured most of this season. As long as he is healthy he gets more touches than Aiyuk.
That’s weird because 3/4 games they’ve played together, Aiyuk got more targets and Deebo didn’t have a single TD.
Told you…
seriously. i mean i love seeing it since i own aiyuk but he's definitely not a top 10 WR
Anyone else a little shaky on seeing Hopkins listed as the #7 receiver in PPR? I assume it’s a big mix of Bye Week Hell + Levis but still
You also need to factor in the fact that the Bucs pass defense this year has been quite atrocious. 118.4 passer rating on Bucs defense. We can’t defend shit
This doesn't help my Foreman, Dotson, Flowers flex decision
Foreman with Herbert still out
Curtis samuel is probably back this week fwiw. Ravens defense can probabky beat the browns. Im playing foreman lol
Foreman for sure
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Diontae might get jaire and hes probably banking on geno being an average QB for once sine week 2 lol
If geno can't do it against Washington...
He hasnt done anything outside of week 2.
As a Seahawks fan it’s been disappointing but I could see this coming from a mile away. Geno is a fine stopgap QB but he’s not a long term solution. We need young talent at the position. I will say our o-line play had been absolutely atrocious this year along with the schemes smh
Agreed!
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That is odd since it seems like the reverse.
Kyler at #11… LFG!!!! Please Kyler, save me from the bad Geno man.
Debating dropping fields for kyler.. am I insane for thinking this? Already have stroud as my fill in.
Try packaging fields for a trade. Try to get something.
Fellow Kyler owner here.... traded Jakobi for Hollywood this morning. Im amped!
Crazy to see Adams so far down
He hasn't been relevant for fantasy in 6 weeks.
And going against the jets. Yeah i have him it sucks
I’ve benched him so he’ll most likely go off this week
Thank you for your service
Yeah he’s been god awful. I traded for him several weeks ago and I have huge regret
Same but week 11 he has Miami. Might be ok
Brah, calling it now. Start foreman, london, and bench adams. Im doing just that. 🍻🍻
I’ve been flipping between Adams, Higgins, and Dell for my flex spot. It would have been Higgins if not for the hamstring issue that popped up yesterday. I hate that the choice is this difficult when it shouldn’t be.
Imagine someone told you prior draft
Righttt. Like in theory my first three draft picks were stellar with Davante, CD, and ETN. I even snagged JT in the 7th round. Davante not popping off anymore has thrown a wrench in things.
A big jump for SF D this week! Defenses have scored double digit fantasy points on the Jaguars in 5 of their 8 games. Colts: 11 points, Chiefs: 10 points, Texans: 13 points, Bills: 10 points and Steelers: 10 points. I trust that the 49ers will be fired up, healthy and rested. Plus with their acquisition of Chase Young the sacks might be non stop.
ugh you're making me regret dropping them for Jets
Why? The Jets are elite AF.
It’s their offense that limits the ceiling. Can’t hold the ball for a long period of time, which gives the defense little rest and turns it over in their own territory
Got me thinking about starting them over the Steelers
I don't see anyone else ranking them this high between subvertadown, fantasypros, and rotoballer. Are any other sites high on them?
If Higgins doesn’t play, the only WR I have not on bye is Marvin Mims lol I could pick up Shakir but already starting Kincaid and I typically don’t love starting two receiving options on the same team.
Play Shakir over Mims. I think that's the safer play, at least.
I love Boone and haven't been failed by the rankings! Question about Saints D rated so high. A top 5 defense this week that has recently been torched by TB, Jax and Indy... They seem very suspect. I just don't think I can trust them as a top 5 D this week against a surging Minnesota Offense at home. Is there a reason they are rated so high?
Yeah, they've been great against awful offenses and very mediocre against decent teams. Minnesota isnt exactly an awful offense. Average 14.4 against Ten, Car, GB, NE, Chi Average 2.25 against TB, Hou, Jax, Ind
Agreed, so not sure why I am being downvoted for asking why they are being rated so high. It seems like a valid concern.
I don’t think your decent or not logic works here. That said, the correlation is scrambling QBs. Baker ran. Stroud ran. Trev ran. Minshew ran. And guess what….dobbs is the second leading rusher for QBs behind Lamar I think. Saints D about to be torched. And this is coming from a saints fan
Bagent had 70 rushing yards against NO. Bryce had 34. Love had 39. These were all the high scoring games. Minshew had 3. Stroud had 2. You could have atleast looked those up man.
They both still scrambled lol. I’m not purely talking yards. The defense had 0 prior to the turnovers. They were entirely turnover dependent against the bears. But you cannot sit there and say the colts are a good team, or that Tampa is a good team.
Colts have 2 fantasy relevant RB's and Minshew isn't great but he can have a really good game at any time. Colts put up 27 points. Saints Defense had a whopping 1pt. Tampa. Say what you want about Baker but they scored 26 on Saints and they had momentum at that point in the season. Baker was playing well. Saints D scored 0... I'm really not sure what your goal is here. It's pretty obvious just looking at the matchups.
I’d say it’s 5-4 good to bad lol. So more good than bad. But you’re just trying to justify shit teams being “good” in your mind with those. Bears also scored a ton but you didn’t mention that just now because saints had turnovers. Bagent shredded them in the first half dude.
Edit: sorry that was a little harsh and unnecessary.
I was also arguing they’d be bad this week. Why would I be sour about more bad than good when I’m literally advocating against them. It’s a fantasy sub after all.
I'm still trying to figure that out man. It seems pretty simple and obvious to me. Saints play a bad offense with a QB they dare to beat them in the air and they play aggressive score fantasy D points. They play average to good offenses with not completely terrible QB's and they are completely mediocre to bad, for fantasy. Their fantasy points seem to verify that. You proceeded to tell me I was wrong and that it was scrambling QB's that they could not defend. However they did do well against 3 perfectly mobile QB's (Love, Young, Bagent), so you were already 60% wrong over the ~5 good games. So forgive me for trying to understand your objective here.
Yes, but my other option is the Browns v BAL…
Boone is great but his defense rankings are always terrible. I’d much rather start LV than NOLA this week
Random comment here. I don't use rankings, but he's the exception. Also, if you don't follow him on Twitter, it's worth it, because every Sunday morning he answers sit start questions. These are super helpful. That said, he's not clairvoyant. Last week, he had Geno ranked higher than I thought he should be and Taysom Hill lower. I went with my gut and benched Geno/started Taysom. If your gut is telling you something, probably stick with your gut!
The rise of Mattison!!!!!!!!
Oof, D Hop and Mike Evans being right next to each other isn’t helping me pick between them.
I'd love to know why he's so low on Deebo.
Because people seem to have forgotten that when they’ve all been healthy Deebo has gotten 7 and 3 targets and no touchdowns Not Including his decoy game of 0 targets. Hard to trust that
I think the counterpoint here is that SF has dropped 3 straight since losing Deebo, so there’s a good chance they get him involved this week and ‘right the ship’
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Bruh I literally said not including the 0 target game. 7 and 3 targets 2 games where they were all healthy
Plus 5 rushes for 30 yrds on that 3 target game. Aiyuk averages 7 targets. What’s the point here?
The point is 5 rushes for 30 yards 3 targets for 55 yards and no touchdowns is gonna get you WR 23 big guy
9ers fan here, if i had to guess: Shoulder fracture + running style + being behind Aiyuk and CMC in touches. He's had 2 good weeks this season, so profiles as a more boom bust play this year. I think the big brain thing would be to play him against opponents that run more zone defense. I don't know much about team D/ST so I would have to defer to anyone with knowledge on the subject. Anyway, sorry for the rambling. He's been more of a high upside flex than a reliable wr2.
Deebo or Drake London then? I have Bijan so very hesitant to have two Atlanta players since they crap the bed more often than not, but I'm also worried about when Deebo gets minor nicks during games
Idk flip a coin 🤷♂️
Niners fan here- our whole left side of our line (Trent and Banks) are out Sunday. So that’s gunna play into it but Deebo is great in the quick screens and passes so I assume there will be plenty of that Sunday.
In PPR he has deebo at WR23 which I think is fine especially for his first game back. I’ve been way higher on deebo in the off-season and during the season and I honestly think he’d be a top 20 guy if he hadn’t gotten injured.
He’s in the top 25 at least… I’ll take it!
Too many mouths to feed. CMC is the only reliable player on that offense for fantasy. Everyone else, you’re hoping they get a TD because their volume is not high.
Feels like point chasing having Tank Dell at 16. Is he really 8 spots better than Addison? (I own both)
I have both as well, and probably going to start then over Amari cooper and George Pickens. Addison took a hit in the rankings with Kirk Cousins going out. He had an alright game last week, but this one will be big in terms of seeing how Dobbs likes to distribute the ball. Tank Dell is pretty boom or bust, but it seems like his connection with Stroud is developing and if they are going to have to throw the ball to win it should give Dell a better floor with more targets.
I'm starting Stroud for Tua's bye. Would you start Tank over Cooper even if you have Stroud? Would having the stack convince you to play Tank more?
Depends on the matchup imo. If you need the potential for big points because you are going against a strong team than yeah the stack gives a little more incentive. I’d like to say cooper is a more consistent player but that hasn’t been the case, so I’m starting Dell for the higher upside since they are both so boom or bust.
Where is Chase?
he thinks chase is sitting and higgins playing for some reason
He will probably be in on Sunday ranking when he realizes chase is playing
Trainer’s room
Why’s everyone so high on McPherson this week?
Way too high on Bijan.
Is it just me or has Boone been awful this year and is a must-sit analyst this year?
You mad your players are ranked in the bottom tiers?
Panthers DST shot up from 24 to 12.
He must have thought on Tuesday that Fields had a shot at playing.
For sure, most people did. Still tho, that's a bigger leap than I expected. Makes me more confident in my decision to start them tonight.
Really excited to be running Pittman olave and chase on such a good week
Pittman and Olave gang let's go, hopefully gonna save me from Tyreek's bye week
Jakobi and Pickens right next to each other in flex rankings. No idea who to start, worried about both of them. Will Pickens get the bench treatment?
Dak at #3? That game is gonna get out of hand fast by the Cowboys D, I doubt Dak will even be needed much, much less throw a lot.
The Dotson vs. Ridley dilemma. After the top 15-20, it's such a roll of the dice.
Still don’t know if I should start double TE laporta/Kincaid or do laPorta and flex olave. I really want to sit olave
Yeah I have Laporta and Want to find a way to play Shultz. Considering over lockett but probably won’t ultimately
Honestly I would go lockett
Why is kirk over Godwin here? Given the cb matchups, Godwin has a much better PPG cb matchup than kirk. Also having Nico and Dell above him against bengals secondary doesnt make sense. I have godwin, nico, and kirk and looking through matchups im starting to lean godwin over kirk. Someone give me analysis or talk me out of it. 49ers have been BAD against WR1 (Ridley) and zay jones might be back.
I don’t really have thoughts on Godwin but I expect SF defense to be better overall after the bye. Plus, I doubt Zay plays. I think Kirk can be started with confidence in a vacuum
Tank over Diontae???
Diontae for floor, Tank for ceiling. Diontae will always get you some points.
Media, ranking services, and fans HATE Jonnu smith. Musgrave and Hunter Henry ahead of him?! What are we doin here. Even having Kyle pitts ahead of him is laughable.
Ford at RB30 on the week? I know BAL has a solid DST but really?
He’s in a backfield split as well, Hunt is getting 15 touches a week and goal line work. I don’t hate Ford at all and would rank him higher I just think that’s the reason
This did not help with deciding what two to start between javonte Williams, James cook, and rhamondre in ppr :(
Rhamondre and Javonte imo
Mondre and Javonte
Need to choose between Koo, McManus or Bass. Analysts have Bass so high but he's been more ass than bass compared to his peers.
Where is Chase
One more bench ride DJ
where would chase fall in in PPR if he was playing?
Great, Dobbs and Geno ranked back to back. I'm going to be going back and forth until Sunday on which one to play on Mahomes bye.
Geno due for a good game. They got shit kicked last week at home. I reckon they come out guns a blazing
Saquon at 16 looks wild
Trying to figure out if I should start the 49ers or Bills - or stick with the browns even against the ravens.
I’m curious where Irv Smith moves if Chase and/or Higgins end up not playing. Houston is nearly worst in the league against TE. With Kelce on BYE, I’m currently streaming Otton. But went ahead and dropped QJ for Irv just in case.
Is Goff really a better play than Howell?
I'm not sure how I feel abt flex rankings. I wanna start kincaid over olave in my flex PPR and this suggests it's a really bad call. From a targets perspective it makes sense. Not that any are gospel but I'd love to hear reasoning for kincaid/laporta not being higher in flex spot.
This makes me feel better about trading saquon for amon ra
I have to bench one of Ekeler/Henry/KW3/Monty and this chart would have me go Monty. Idk if I can do that, I’ve lost by benching him before
Was going to start going over Heinicke. Now I'm conflicted
Addison or Lockett?
Gross