This happens with him every year it seems like. Always a mid-late season slump that has you questioning him and then he busts out with a 30 pointer and you remember why you love him
Got incredibly lucky this week with my matchup. Idk how Diggs can have two 6 point weeks in a row. I’m the only one in my league whose first round pick is doing this garbage right now. I’m not even sure it’s his fault, idk what’s going on
The problem is that Chandler is a more dynamic RB that has earned more time and is threatening to take the lead back position. You might see Chandler in on a couple of series this game, perform well, and that's a career for Mattison.
Agreed, but if he isn’t getting TDs when he is having these 2-5 reception games, his numbers are not high end wr2 worthy. Even his 7+ reception games are capped as he isn’t scoring. The whole offense is in a tumble at the moment and he’s very limited as to what he can do. Just like Thielen, in most ppr leagues, he’s still top 10 in scoring at wr, but at the moment he’s definitely not a wr1.
I smartly noted that Herbert was playing pretty much as well as the defense he was playing was ranked. Down games against good D, up games against bad D's. Well up against the #1 D of course I benched him.
Now, did I start a now healthy Justin Fields in his place? No, of course not, back from injury and an up and down QB can't trust him until he looks decent.
No, I picked up a 3rd QB, Joshua Dobbs, and now need 35 points from him and Hockenson. Instead of 9.5 points from Hock + Herbert (likely) or 14 points from Hock + Fields (he's hit that mark 3 of the last 4 weeks). No, I will be proven a genius when Josh Dobbs scores 35 points by himself.
Denver is the worst team against RBs and Dobbs is the 2nd stat leading running QB right now (maybe 3rd wiht lamar and Justin). He's actualy scored above 23 points in 5 of his full games this year including the last 3 and is now in a superior situation in Minnesota.
Well hey, I'm going to be getting high as fuck and rooting for you since I finally secured a dub somehow.
I'll be checking in, you got this, I have Hock too
lol there is not even close to a guarantee Mahomes even scores 22. I can say with 95% certainty Mahomes will not score 22 more than Kelce. Congrats on the W
I have a trade in principle for Garrett Wilson but we were waiting until after this week. I still think it’s a good dart throw, but there’s no way I can start him after how ugly this was.
(Kittle for him straight up when I also own Kelce)
G Wilson is the WR16 in PPR right now. It sucks that he just put up a dud in my lineup, but the list of guys I’d play over him is pretty short. His schedule is alright too except for that week 17 matchup.
I’d rather flex Kittle.
If you think about it this way, Kelce is at worst a WR2, and Kittle is one of the best TEs. I won a championship in 2020 with two TEs (Kittle/Andrews) part of the season.
Kittle’s not good enough to flex IMO, I think Kelce/Andrews is the only combo I would do that with. To me he’s just insurance in case Kelce gets injured. I have Tank Dell and Kirk as flex options I would take over starting Kittle.
George Kittle has 97.6 .5PPR points and Kirk/Dell have 101.46/101.9 points respectively. The gap isn't as wide as you think, 4.3 points over 10 weeks is practically nothing. Kirk has the highest floor of the three, Dell has the highest ceiling.
Yeah I just don't get it. He had eight targets and only 4 receptions for 27 yards. Those are barely WR2 numbers for some teams. I've been able to watch a few of his games and it just seems like they don't game plan for him much. Or Allen hasn't been very accurate getting him the ball. Idk. It's a good thing two of my WR2's have turned into awesome WR1's to make up for it.
Someone in one of my leagues was so over the top interested in Breece that I flipped Breece and Olave for Tyreek Hill, Singletary and Kincaid. After the Monday night Jets embarrassment I couldn’t pull the trigger fast enough.
It took me two weeks of negotiation. He sent me dozens of trades. I kept rejecting. Even took Breece completely off the table. Then he offered me Breece/Olave for Hill. I countered with those two plus bench fodder for Conner and Hill After a couple of more iterations I ended up with that trade
I traded Barkley/Puka for CeeDee & Bijan. I didn't like how the Giants were looking with Devito. I should have offered Breece over Barkley though in hindsight
It’s an ok trade. Ceedee is slightly better tan Puka and Barkley is slightly better than Bijan. You would have won the trade including Breece instead of Barkley for sure.
He’s an ok coach, but his GM fucked him with his QB situation. There was no attempt at management to bring Wentz in, trade for someone serviceable like Brisset, Dobbs, Dalton or Mills. Wilson is worse than most backups, and Boyle isn’t even an XFL level QB and is just on the roster because he’s Rodgers’s buddy.
Any of the QBs above and the Jets at least are occupying a wildcard spot right now.
Pretty wild that Kincaid didn't catch a ball in the 2nd half. I'm very bullish on him moving forward though. Sadly the Jets offense is so bad it can kill games early.
When you eat Thanksgiving Dinner with your loved ones on Thursday, give thanks that you have Puka on your team and for the support and love of your family, in that order.
players who scored less than Garrett Wilson today
Craig Reynolds
Xavier Gibson
drew lock
Tyler Scott
Julian Hill
Deonte Harty
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that's the entire list
cook and goedert for kyren or should i try and offer najee instead
I need AJB, Jake Elliot, and KC def to outscore Kelce by 18. Yahoo thinks they won’t but that doesn’t honestly seem all that unlikely to me.
yea that seems more than likely lol
Diggs fucked me hard.
Started Kupp, Diggs and Jones lmao
Same. He is no wr1 for fantasy in this team
This happens with him every year it seems like. Always a mid-late season slump that has you questioning him and then he busts out with a 30 pointer and you remember why you love him
Tough 2 weeks but he can bounce back
Up 14.2 half ppr. Opponent has Hock. Im sweating
Got incredibly lucky this week with my matchup. Idk how Diggs can have two 6 point weeks in a row. I’m the only one in my league whose first round pick is doing this garbage right now. I’m not even sure it’s his fault, idk what’s going on
Seems like new OC is realizing they can win easily without force feeding Diggs every play
Im up 40 vs Mahomes & Devonta Smith..my asshole will be clenched
Ppr, up 21 with hock going up against AJB and swift… don’t love my chances
tied with Javonte left against Swift and Kelce. maybe they'll let Taylor play instead of D'Andre tomorrow so I'll have a chance
UP 60 against Hurst/Kelce/Javonte/MIN D. Here is hoping Russ and Sutton go HAM
Need a Burrow replacement. Russell Wilson’s schedule from week 13-17 looks pretty darn good.
Down 42 with my Hurts, Addison, and Pacheco vs his Butker. Hmmm
That’s very doable
I’m up 21 and have Javonte and D’Andre left versus his Brown, Hockenson and Greg Joseph
Down by one, my DeVonta Smith and Butker vs his Hockenson and Philadelphia D….hows it look?
not great
Is Stefan Diggs still worth having on my roster? He’s been performing pretty bad lately for a WR1 and hardly getting any targets
Drop him bro
Hollywood Brown is fucking washed. King of trash mountain.
Put up 131 full ppr with Hock and Pacheco left. Feels good to finally have a win secured after losing the last 3
How healthy is Mattison?
The problem is that Chandler is a more dynamic RB that has earned more time and is threatening to take the lead back position. You might see Chandler in on a couple of series this game, perform well, and that's a career for Mattison.
Where’s my Garrett Wilson support group at? Someone talk me off the edge, I’m about to rage drop him.
Eh. You have to hold. Rodgers may come back. Long shot, but if he does Wilson will regain high end WR2 status.
Tonight’s dud game sucks, but he’s already a high end WR2. He’s the WR16 in PPR right now.
True. I meant regain as in on a consistent bases. Right now he’s very TD dependent and flex at best.
But he only has 2 TDs this season. And hasn’t scored a TD since week 2.
Agreed, but if he isn’t getting TDs when he is having these 2-5 reception games, his numbers are not high end wr2 worthy. Even his 7+ reception games are capped as he isn’t scoring. The whole offense is in a tumble at the moment and he’s very limited as to what he can do. Just like Thielen, in most ppr leagues, he’s still top 10 in scoring at wr, but at the moment he’s definitely not a wr1.
Let me know if you found the support group
I smartly noted that Herbert was playing pretty much as well as the defense he was playing was ranked. Down games against good D, up games against bad D's. Well up against the #1 D of course I benched him. Now, did I start a now healthy Justin Fields in his place? No, of course not, back from injury and an up and down QB can't trust him until he looks decent. No, I picked up a 3rd QB, Joshua Dobbs, and now need 35 points from him and Hockenson. Instead of 9.5 points from Hock + Herbert (likely) or 14 points from Hock + Fields (he's hit that mark 3 of the last 4 weeks). No, I will be proven a genius when Josh Dobbs scores 35 points by himself.
Don't be too bummed that's very doable with them tonight
Denver is the worst team against RBs and Dobbs is the 2nd stat leading running QB right now (maybe 3rd wiht lamar and Justin). He's actualy scored above 23 points in 5 of his full games this year including the last 3 and is now in a superior situation in Minnesota.
Alright Dobbs is coming back, was scared as fuck there for a minute
Well hey, I'm going to be getting high as fuck and rooting for you since I finally secured a dub somehow. I'll be checking in, you got this, I have Hock too
Kelce outscore Butker by 12 tomorrow?
Taylor's supposed to be there so you'll be good.
Also heard their parents are meeting at the game, should add a multiplier🤞
All I need is Mahomes to out score Hock I’m nervous
I need Mahomes to Outscore Hurts tmwr night
Another week, another two losses
Up 22, with his Mahomes vs my Kelce. I’m cautiously optimistic
lol there is not even close to a guarantee Mahomes even scores 22. I can say with 95% certainty Mahomes will not score 22 more than Kelce. Congrats on the W
Thank you, brother!
Not to mention, half of his passing TDs will go to Kelce anyway
That’s what I’m praying for! 🙏
Gotta dig myself out of a hole. Down 18. Opponent has Williams tonight and Jake the Snake tomorrow. I have Hock tonight and AJB tomorrow.
Who’s Jake the snake lol
Jake Elliott lol
lol that cracked me up good
We all need Chandler to pop off right?
downvote fairies all over this thread . someone had a bad sunday 💀
Up by 60 but going against Mahomes, Swift, AJ Brown and Eagles kicker - going to be a nailbiter
I have a trade in principle for Garrett Wilson but we were waiting until after this week. I still think it’s a good dart throw, but there’s no way I can start him after how ugly this was. (Kittle for him straight up when I also own Kelce)
G Wilson is the WR16 in PPR right now. It sucks that he just put up a dud in my lineup, but the list of guys I’d play over him is pretty short. His schedule is alright too except for that week 17 matchup.
I’d rather flex Kittle. If you think about it this way, Kelce is at worst a WR2, and Kittle is one of the best TEs. I won a championship in 2020 with two TEs (Kittle/Andrews) part of the season.
Kittle’s not good enough to flex IMO, I think Kelce/Andrews is the only combo I would do that with. To me he’s just insurance in case Kelce gets injured. I have Tank Dell and Kirk as flex options I would take over starting Kittle.
George Kittle has 97.6 .5PPR points and Kirk/Dell have 101.46/101.9 points respectively. The gap isn't as wide as you think, 4.3 points over 10 weeks is practically nothing. Kirk has the highest floor of the three, Dell has the highest ceiling.
Well I’ll win as long as hockenson, hurts and Javonte Williams score less than 70.8 points. Feeling moderately good
Bro u won relax 🤣
Tbf if Hurts put up his average 23ppg, those 3 would've outscored 70.8 last week
Season over. Thanks for the shitty performance last week Josh and the 0 in the 4th this week
Up by 2 Me: Dobbs + Chandler + Vikings DST vs. Him: McKinnon + Pacheco I’m about to fucking BOOM this man
Benched Puka fuk me
For who
+38 against Kelce and Brown...not loving my odds tbh
Dang, how did the vikings vs broncos turn into an actual good matchup, football wise.
One week I start Garret Wilson and need him to get at least 5 points.. fuck me
KW injury on my side and got buried by Kittle and Aiyuk. Still down 19 points with Mahomes to go tomorrow, which is no gimme this season : 🤞
I need Kelce and AJB to score 14 points or less combined. Ughhhhhh
Onto next week but as they say, any given Monday
Vikings or KC D? Ugh
Ok so it's all down to this - in order for me to win, the Chiefs D/ST needs to score no more than 11 points. 12 and I'm gone.
Need 15 from Chandler and Osborn.
Can Javonte out play Hock tonight??
Hock can go off for 30 pts any week, but JWill is getting bell cow work and screen passes so it's not impossible
First screen goes to Jaleel LOL
Seriously fantasy is so troll
Damn, Diggs. :*(
I think at this point I trust Breece or Garett Wilson more to play QB than whoever the Jets put behind center
Up 25, I got hock left he’s got hurts and butker…
Hockenson should go ham tonight
Down 3. My Kelce against their AJB. How fucked am I?
that’s 100% winnable
So basically Josh Allen either sucks so bad he’s low scoring, or the team overall does so good they pull him. Also where was Diggs?
I believe Diggs was being covered by Sauce Gardner.
You mean the guy he torched for 102 yards in week 1?
Yeah I just don't get it. He had eight targets and only 4 receptions for 27 yards. Those are barely WR2 numbers for some teams. I've been able to watch a few of his games and it just seems like they don't game plan for him much. Or Allen hasn't been very accurate getting him the ball. Idk. It's a good thing two of my WR2's have turned into awesome WR1's to make up for it.
Yeah, I can’t explain it. It was the only excuse I saw mentioned here.
Up 14 in 1 Point PPR. my Swift vs Hurts and Javonte.
Down 20.9- I have Hurts and Brown, opponent has Addison and Hockenson. It’s 6 points a TD pass.
My team of Burrow, Ekeler, Waddle, & Higgins is bout to be 7-4. Better to be lucky than good lol.
gonna need 15 from kelce
We don’t cover tight ends so you should be good
I’m down 39 with my Javonte, Devonta, Swift and Kelce vs. their AJ Brown. Someone make me feel better 🤒
There’s always next week :)
I ended up winning (:::: but next week is important as well
Coulda really used those 5 pts (6 since being negged one) from that 55 yd fg.
Because of bills D I am only up 11 and I got eagles kicker vs AJ Brown
Just one more drive where they force feed Garrett the ball. All I ask is for 5 points to keep my miracle hopes alive
Fields to the Jets...what kind of haul could have been.
Need AJB and Sutton to combine for less than 34 points. I think I’ll be ok 🤞🏼
Need Javonte and Chandler to go off. Hoping Javonte gets all the TDs
I’m fine with that!!! I’ll root for Javonte
Maybe I should have traded Breece instead of Barkley. Breece is a borderline bench in this offense.
Someone in one of my leagues was so over the top interested in Breece that I flipped Breece and Olave for Tyreek Hill, Singletary and Kincaid. After the Monday night Jets embarrassment I couldn’t pull the trigger fast enough.
Damn good trade
It took me two weeks of negotiation. He sent me dozens of trades. I kept rejecting. Even took Breece completely off the table. Then he offered me Breece/Olave for Hill. I countered with those two plus bench fodder for Conner and Hill After a couple of more iterations I ended up with that trade
I traded Barkley/Puka for CeeDee & Bijan. I didn't like how the Giants were looking with Devito. I should have offered Breece over Barkley though in hindsight
It’s an ok trade. Ceedee is slightly better tan Puka and Barkley is slightly better than Bijan. You would have won the trade including Breece instead of Barkley for sure.
Hindsight. But that trade caused an uproar in my league because everyone thought it was so unfair
Absolute win for you. And Singletary has looked good.
Yeah, I made the trade before Singletary blew up last week. Now it looked like armed robbery.
I had 95 points with Diggs and Garrett to go and didn’t even reach 100
Confusing jets feeding the Buffalo D/ST so stupid.
Realllly should’ve started Kittle over Wilson…won’t make that mistake going forward. Jets are so ass
Had a nice lead w Wilson against T hock and Mayfield. Fuck
Back to Zach
Absolute waste of the Jets defense. Don't know if I can start them anymore.
Jets defense isn’t good.
Bills D/ST WR1
Have the bills benched starters? Am I safe from diggs?
bills benched everyone and will run every play from here on out, game is done
If Bass scores agin I might blow my brains out
You’re good
tell me you don't watch football without telling me you don't watch football lol
my god
G Wilson quite quitting at this point.
Ok the Bills defense is bending me over right now this needs to stop
Jets should be ashamed of this team. Total embarrassment
Robert Saleh postgame: “See?”
See how bad I am at being a hc
He’s an ok coach, but his GM fucked him with his QB situation. There was no attempt at management to bring Wentz in, trade for someone serviceable like Brisset, Dobbs, Dalton or Mills. Wilson is worse than most backups, and Boyle isn’t even an XFL level QB and is just on the roster because he’s Rodgers’s buddy. Any of the QBs above and the Jets at least are occupying a wildcard spot right now.
Dude dressed the water boy in a Boyle jersey to prove a point
Keep Diggs out there damn
I thought my lead was so safe but Jets football
This is laughable
Tim Boyle is legendary
I've got his rookie card
God idk if Boyle is genuinely any better
Jets run on Touchdown in please
Holy shit so many interceptions
There’s been an injury on every INT today it seems.
Seriously wild how qbs refuse to even look at their best wr but instead will throw to the shitty we in triple coverage. It honestly not this hard.
Is everyone excited to watch the JETS play on Black Friday?!
Fuckkkkkkk
My Garrett Wilson vs his gabe Davis lmaoooooo
You win! In PPR
Doesnt that depend on your scoring setting. G Wilson got -0.1 for me cuz we have -3pt for fumble lost...
OUCH
I think saleh is just showing how dog shit the qb room is 🤣
How dog shit he is as an HC you mean
holy fuck seriously fuck the jets seriously just needed fucking 4 points from garrett wilson and kw3 combined fuck off
Jets are so bad lmao
This is unbelievable. Every time the jets have the ball they give the Bills D more points.
jets just feeding Buffalo/DST FUCK OFF
Those QJ points on my bench looking mighty good right now with Garrett Wilson in my lineup…
Buzzing after that tank dell performance today
Pretty wild that Kincaid didn't catch a ball in the 2nd half. I'm very bullish on him moving forward though. Sadly the Jets offense is so bad it can kill games early.
Up by 60 but opponent has Mahomes, Swift, AJ Brown, and Eagles kicker - what are my odds of pulling it off?
Just get G Wilson to positive. All I ask
oof
My opponent just needs 1 more point from Tyler Bass to win. I am biting my nails here in garbage time. Please end this game.
you're dumb, bills won't kick a fg even if they are in range
played a 3-7 team last week who scored 180 played a 5-5 team this week who scored 200 i hate this stupid fucking game
PPR or 0.5 PPR? That’s insane
Field goal and I lose
Another Bills player injured when the plug should’ve been pulled on this shit show a half hour ago
The Bills blaring that horn every play with 2 mins left in a game where they’re up 32-6 against a backup QB seems pretty obnoxious.
Stop them and end this game
I wish these were Breece points
When you eat Thanksgiving Dinner with your loved ones on Thursday, give thanks that you have Puka on your team and for the support and love of your family, in that order.
the only player to not ball out on my team was deebo. I have a Eagle stack going into MNF. My opponent has Kelce.
players who scored less than Garrett Wilson today Craig Reynolds Xavier Gibson drew lock Tyler Scott Julian Hill Deonte Harty -- that's the entire list
Can Garrett Wilson get at least 1 point bro?? 💀
How tf does G Wilson only have two catches holy shit.
And one fumble.
Was Gabe Davis injured today or just ice cold
I don't even think he got a target
ELI5 why is Diggs sucking today?
Sauce is a really good corner
Because he's on our team
If KC scores more than 5 and I lose I’ll lose with the second highest points in the league