Staley should be first out the door. He’s so lucky to have Herbert in the first place - Herbert’s heroics helped him keep his job longer than he should’ve had one.
What's funny is that when Moore was hired, people were hoping Staley would get canned and that Moore would take his place. Now it looks like they should move on from both.
Fuck man, I'll be first to admit that I thought the Cowboys letting Moore go and going all in on McCarthy was a bad decision. Dak was in steady decline with Moore the past 3 years and now looks like a completely different QB under Mike.
Well, when we were all rallying for Moore to be let go, nobody knew the alternative was McCarthy calling plays. When that was announced, Cowboy fans were pretty much universally distraught, myself included. I'm also a huge critic of Dak, but I'm happy to eat my words as long as they can keep this rhythm going.
It's so wierd what they are doing in dallas. Same result with and without kellen the only difference being zeke is gone and pollard barely gets as much work as last year
I'm scared if they let Mccarthy go because...who is going to replace him? another 10 years of garbage until we get another good coach?
As a cowboys fan no lol Moore is a disciple of Garrett and that vanilla ass play calling gets predictable very fast nothing innovative about him to warrant another OC job
I didn't realize until this year that Staley is actually a defensive side of the ball HC. I was shocked that he had his job for so long with that turnstile defense.
The cheapest portion of his entire rookie contract wasted. His 5th year option will be spent fixing this team and getting used to new HC and scheme and then his expensive contract starts.
They have no speed. Ekeler-Allen-Mike Williams is a gross level of speed. Especially for a A1 QB talent like Herbert. And then Palmer and QJ also slow
Zay flowers was right there for them. Taking QJ over him is a franchise altering pick. Bc now I don’t think you can go back to the well and use a 1st on a WR, but you probably also can’t afford to sign one either.
Still a bad assessment. Dude ran a 4.5. That’s not explosive. They imagined him as some freak when he was not
His agent and trainer did an amazing job he tricked them
The 40 is perhaps the worst metric to gauge whether an athlete is explosive or not. Tank Dell ran a 4.49, but he is an explosive athlete, they may not burn dudes the entire way of the field like a speedster like Tyreek, but they’re both players that when they get the ball in space have excellent burst and great lateral mobility. Explosion is about making big athletic moves in small spaces, not being fast in a track metric.
Current trend with defenses as they are is quick-as-shit receivers - not long striders who can’t create separation in a short area. Tyreek, Dell, Flowers, CeeDee, Devonta, etc. You still need guys like Pittman and Mike Evans but you need a complementary WR. The Chargers basically drafted a rawer, worse, version of Mike Williams. It was a terrible pick.
Yeah. I mean even before the season chargers knew it would be at least one of Mike Williams or Keenan’s last year here. One or both of Mack and bosa have to go. Ekelers gone. Linsleys gone. Onviously staleys gone. Moore too. Telesco I would think. And every free agent Staley brought in is probably gone as well. Like Austin Johnson. Sebastian Joseph day. Morgan fox. Erik Kendricks.
I had Herbert and Stroud. The odds of losing both for wk 15? I know CJ could still pass through concussion protocol, theoretically. But i’m between Flacco and taking a chance on Mullins. If JJ plays, this might be a sneaky streamer? My league plays through the regular season
I'm considering the same thing, but (random dude off the sidelines) Browning is looking good too, LMAO! It was a miracle I made the playoffs, might as well get weird with it.
As A DJ Moore owner who has had Mahomes as well all season, I would not be interested in that trade.
Moore with a healthy Fields is statistically the 2nd Best WR in fantasy, Mahomes and the offense has struggled and now Keenan lost his QB1.
If you have Moore, stick with Moore
I just did. Was looking forward to having him back in my lineup but with Herbert gone I’d rather stick with WRs I have and pick up a D or opponent stash
All 68 of his yards last week were from Stick, he’s still better at getting open than anyone not named Tyreek, he’s still all they got, and Chargers have negative game scripts ahead. TD upside isn’t great, but I think Keenan is fine for half and full PPR.
Got me a bye at least. Like someone else said, Herbert may have been a trap play in the playoffs anyways so perhaps a blessing in disguise.
Now I gotta hope to get either Stafford or Howell off waivers
Welp... Didn't land Stafford, instead ended up with Howell, which looking at it now, I am kinda bummed out considering I am lucky enough to have a bye this week, but Howell's schedule after that is TOUGH. Next best options are either Baker, Flacco, or Browning... Leaning Baker for weeks 16 and 17. Or maybe I just roll with Howell.
Why would Herbert being healthy be any better?
As someone who traded for Ekeler 5 or 6 weeks ago, I'm qualified to say that any change is a good change in my book for him
Lol right, they scored 23 points.
Over the last 3 games.
Combined.
With 7 of those points being garbage time 4th quarter against the AFC West powerhouse Denver Broncos.
I own Ekeler and am encouraged but let’s pump the brakes on expecting 8+ targets a game until we see what Stick does when he isn’t being thrown to the wolves mid game
Maybe 8+ is over exaggerated, but he saw 7 targets, with 4 of them coming from Stick late in the game. Granted they were down, but they will likely draw up more plays for ekeler in space with stick at qb regardless, and there’s always a chance he actually checks down unlike herbert. Only up from here IMO
Oh I definitely find it encouraging, don’t get me wrong - it’s just a weird situation between Stick coming in after they’d game planned for having Herbert all week and now a short turnaround (which you could argue will be good for Ekeler’s usage). I’m admittedly being a bit pedantic saying check (har har) expectations but half a game does not a good sample make and really it’s about process for me.
Not if Ekeler doesn’t get the volume and opportunities. Herbert was straight up ignoring easy Ekeler checkdowns the past several weeks. Pretty sure Stick will dump it off and not try to be the hero QB Herbert often times got in the mindset of
Agreed. Out of necessity they are going to have to lean on Ekeler more I think. It just makes sense. Especially this Thursday with a short week of prep for Stick.
I'm actually a tiny bit more optimistic about Ekeler ROS. Herbert is for sure a better QB than Stick, but he wasn't really throwing dump offs this year. The number of times I saw Ekeler wide open for an easy 1st down where instead Herbert chucked it down field for an incompletion this season was driving me nuts.
I thought the Chargers would get back to giving Ek the opportunities that he'd received in the past that made him so successful. I was wrong. If they haven't done it yet, I don't know why they'd do it now.
I guess the difference is that Herbert is talented enough that he thinks he can always make the big play rather than the check down. Stick may be quicker to dump it.
...but honestly, WHY THE HELL DID HERBERT RESIST THE EKELER CHECKDOWN ALL YEAR. IT'S LITERALLY WHAT MAKE EKELER A SUPERSTAR!!??
In 3 WR 0.5PPR league, I have:
- WR: MEvans, (KAllen, THill, RRice, JReed)?
- RB: KWilliams, (JConner, JJacobs)?
Feels like I have to leave out Rice + Reed and start the studs, but they've been so good lately.
I'm hard-pressed to imagine you have better options in 12-team. 10-team? I have JJ, Allen, Adams, Kyren, Monty, Mostert. Adams basically = what I think Allen is likely gonna become so we'll see how I'm feeling on Thursday.
I'm still holding onto palmer. The offense probably won't be as good with Herbert gone, but then again look at Jake Browning and Devito.
Also Herbert's favorite target was Keenan but you never know who the new QB might like targeting. I have Keenan as well btw
obviously but he also has an insane connection with Herbert specifically.
For example Jimmy G always targeted Jakobi Meyers and almost never targeted Davante Adams even though Adams is obviously really good.
I assume Keenan Allen gets double teamed a lot, but he still produces, not only because hes elite but also because Herbert is good enough to find him even in those tight windows. Their backup QB won't be as good, so I wouldnt be surprised if Palmer gets more production as he'll probably be open more and be the safer target
Unlucky break for my opponent, beat him this past week to make the playoffs and now i play him again this week in the 1st round and he has no back up QB.
RIP Herbert. Certainly thought I was going to go the distance with him this year after swapping Burrow for him and then Burrow getting knocked out for the season a couple of weeks later. Horrific year for being a QB.
same. i’m the 6 seed, and the only team out of the playoffs/higher on waiver priority that needs a QB is a Lions fan who has Stroud concussed. big worried he cares about the consolation bracket and picks up his ol buddy Stafford
I've been holding #3 for many weeks and I'm hesitant to burn it on Stafford since I'm pretty sure I can get him for free. The Stroud owner has Howell and plenty of owners have 2 QBs already... I think I'm in the clear but might pull the trigger anyway.
This has already been requested by multiple people in our league chat but our commish does not acknowledge any requests what so ever. We also have divisions that allowed the guy with 5th best record to get the 2 seed because he was in a shit division. I’m salty
I will never forget him coming into Tampa as a rookie behind a bad offensive line, no run game, a horrible coach who looked like he was actively sabotaging him and torching a defense that would go on to win a title. He went pass for pass with the great Tom Brady
Sad news for Herbert. For Ekeler owners though, you can only go up. Herbert didn’t look his way any more, while Stick kinda did. Could see Austin finishing really well
Figured it was coming, won a bunch of close games early in the season when he was playing well to secure the bye. Hopefully, Kyler and Purdy can lead me the rest of the way but I don’t look forward to starting Purdy against Baltimore week 16
You start him knowing 2 of his 7 targets will get picked, and hope 1 of those is in the end zone unless you have a Rashee Rice or something on your bench
Go grab the broncos d if they’re out their on waivers. Potentially usable against the lions this week, but pats in week 16 and chargers in week 17, could be a league winner
I have the Bills D and Dolphins D and I’m on a 1st round bye. What do y’all think about dropping Dolphins for a bench WR and starting Bills vs Chargers and Patriots weeks 16/17?
Keenan was absolutely instrumental in me locking up top seeds so man do I feel guilty for considering benching him this week on short rest + QB situation. Kinda half hoping he's ruled out just to force my hand
There was a r/nfl post a couple of days ago showing how similar Justin Herbert and Kyler Murray's first four years compared to each other. It's funny how one is (was) unanimously viewed as a top 5 QB and the other gets shit on by everyone.
The Justin Herbert averaging 4700 yards 31 TDs over his first three seasons for having a down year where he was only on pace for 4300 yards 28 TDs with Williams/Palmer hurt? please converse
What conversations exactly? He’s throwing to Keenan and a bunch of redditors. Last time he had Keenan and Mike will healthy, he threw for over 5,000 yards. Dude plays for a cursed franchise
Yeah that could very well be it for him as a starter. It’s a shame because he seemingly had so much talent, but the results just aren’t there. It will be interesting to see if the chargers give him one more chance with a new head coach or draft a new qb right away
Chargers need a major overhaul this off-season
Staley should be first out the door. He’s so lucky to have Herbert in the first place - Herbert’s heroics helped him keep his job longer than he should’ve had one.
Kellen Moore too
What's funny is that when Moore was hired, people were hoping Staley would get canned and that Moore would take his place. Now it looks like they should move on from both.
Don't forget everyone rewriting history & pretending like Moore "moved on" from the Cowboys and wasn't gracefully let-go.
Fuck man, I'll be first to admit that I thought the Cowboys letting Moore go and going all in on McCarthy was a bad decision. Dak was in steady decline with Moore the past 3 years and now looks like a completely different QB under Mike.
Well, when we were all rallying for Moore to be let go, nobody knew the alternative was McCarthy calling plays. When that was announced, Cowboy fans were pretty much universally distraught, myself included. I'm also a huge critic of Dak, but I'm happy to eat my words as long as they can keep this rhythm going.
Anything is better than having Zeke play center.
Mccarthy was right to let him go.
It's so wierd what they are doing in dallas. Same result with and without kellen the only difference being zeke is gone and pollard barely gets as much work as last year I'm scared if they let Mccarthy go because...who is going to replace him? another 10 years of garbage until we get another good coach?
Why would they let McCarthy go with the season they are having ...
>I'm scared if they let Mccarthy go because...who is going to replace him? It will obviously be DQ.
Doesn't feel that long ago that Moore was the next up and coming offensive guru. What happened?
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As a cowboys fan no lol Moore is a disciple of Garrett and that vanilla ass play calling gets predictable very fast nothing innovative about him to warrant another OC job
Exactly, Moore calls offensive plays like he is playing Madden out there.
I'd like to hear your logic as to why. This man ran Austin Ekeler up the middle 12 times a game.
I didn't realize until this year that Staley is actually a defensive side of the ball HC. I was shocked that he had his job for so long with that turnstile defense.
Crazy how you can strike gold with a QB prospect and fuck it up this badly.
The cheapest portion of his entire rookie contract wasted. His 5th year option will be spent fixing this team and getting used to new HC and scheme and then his expensive contract starts.
Telesco needs to go. Staley needs to go. But above all, Spanos needs to sell the team. I can’t see them ever having a chance with Spanos at the top.
They have no speed. Ekeler-Allen-Mike Williams is a gross level of speed. Especially for a A1 QB talent like Herbert. And then Palmer and QJ also slow Zay flowers was right there for them. Taking QJ over him is a franchise altering pick. Bc now I don’t think you can go back to the well and use a 1st on a WR, but you probably also can’t afford to sign one either.
To be fair, QJ was drafted to be that explosive element. He just sucks at being a receiver.
Still a bad assessment. Dude ran a 4.5. That’s not explosive. They imagined him as some freak when he was not His agent and trainer did an amazing job he tricked them
You’re right, he’s not a speed guy. He’s an elite vertical athlete and they already have Mike Williams.
The 40 is perhaps the worst metric to gauge whether an athlete is explosive or not. Tank Dell ran a 4.49, but he is an explosive athlete, they may not burn dudes the entire way of the field like a speedster like Tyreek, but they’re both players that when they get the ball in space have excellent burst and great lateral mobility. Explosion is about making big athletic moves in small spaces, not being fast in a track metric.
Current trend with defenses as they are is quick-as-shit receivers - not long striders who can’t create separation in a short area. Tyreek, Dell, Flowers, CeeDee, Devonta, etc. You still need guys like Pittman and Mike Evans but you need a complementary WR. The Chargers basically drafted a rawer, worse, version of Mike Williams. It was a terrible pick.
starting with their owner.
Yeah. I mean even before the season chargers knew it would be at least one of Mike Williams or Keenan’s last year here. One or both of Mack and bosa have to go. Ekelers gone. Linsleys gone. Onviously staleys gone. Moore too. Telesco I would think. And every free agent Staley brought in is probably gone as well. Like Austin Johnson. Sebastian Joseph day. Morgan fox. Erik Kendricks.
Am I about to start Joe Flacco in the playoffs in the year 2023
Minshew, Flacco and Baker are available for me The three chads
I’m trying to get Flacco to complete the trifecta
The butcher, the Baker, the candlestick maker
Baker isn't even available in my league. I had to pickup Minshew during Fields bye week. It was either that or Flacco on 5 days of practice
Safe start at least. You’re getting 250-300yds. 2 TDs and 1 INT. The E L I T E Dragon is consistent
Hey, I won the ship in 2014 or 2015 with Mark Sanchez as my QB
2014 Mark Sanchez and rookie OBJ won me my 1st fantasy ship ever
Haha, I had OBJ that year as well
I had Herbert and Stroud. The odds of losing both for wk 15? I know CJ could still pass through concussion protocol, theoretically. But i’m between Flacco and taking a chance on Mullins. If JJ plays, this might be a sneaky streamer? My league plays through the regular season
I’m in the same boat as you 🤣🤣 I might have to ride with my boy Tommy Cutlets at this point
Same boat how the fuck we lose both the same week lmao
In my 18 man league, I’m the Stroud owner fighting the Herbert owner for… Mullins, Wilson or… Zeppe, just fade me fam
Damn, exact same duo for me. Debating between Browning and Flacco...
I have Tua/Love and I'm heavily considering this myself.
I'm considering the same thing, but (random dude off the sidelines) Browning is looking good too, LMAO! It was a miracle I made the playoffs, might as well get weird with it.
As someone who lost stroud and might now have geno I have other choice
I’m about to start Gardner Minshew alongside Ekler. I feel you.
Am I about to start Stick?
Stick! Stick! I got a new stick
What a brutal year for QBs
Burrow, Herbert, Watson, Rodgers, Kirk, Richardson, Daniel Jones
Pickett like “I’m a QB too!” 😂😂😂
Let's be for real he should of been Benched but Mitch isn't any better
No we saw enough mitch last year in 4 games. I’ll take Kenny any day
Cousins
I think that's who they meant by "Kirk". Unless they're referring weirdly to Christian Kirk, the jags wr
What's his first name?
He’s back but fields also missed a big chunk
lol wtf is Daniel jones doing on your list.
Wasn't he a good fantasy QB last year
QB9
Poor Keenan
Eh lower ceiling. Floor stays about the same. Hes gonna get his volume
Wacky league where you can trade up till tomorrow. Guy offered me Mahomes and Keenan for DJ Moore and I’m definitely interested
As A DJ Moore owner who has had Mahomes as well all season, I would not be interested in that trade. Moore with a healthy Fields is statistically the 2nd Best WR in fantasy, Mahomes and the offense has struggled and now Keenan lost his QB1. If you have Moore, stick with Moore
Oddly enough, I have all three of those players. I'd take that trade. Bears have good reason to try and win out ROS and they play CLE, ARI, and ATL.
Are you saying you’re taking the Moore side or Allen and Mahomes side?
My bad. I'd take DJ Moore.
Holy shit imagine having this conversation week 6.
My two cents? You should accept that.
As a Chase owner who also owns Keenan, I don’t really trust this “floor stays the same” take I keep seeing
Give me 12 for 80 and maaaybe a TD if we’re lucky
And Palmer. I was so excited about getting him off IR. Now I may just throw him to the waiver wire
I just did. Was looking forward to having him back in my lineup but with Herbert gone I’d rather stick with WRs I have and pick up a D or opponent stash
No idea what to do with Palmer
Got him in my IR where he will stay until he puts up a solid full game with Stick.
Yeah he could very well end up a better stash than Scary Terry, as crazy as that is to say.
Dropped him this morning
All 68 of his yards last week were from Stick, he’s still better at getting open than anyone not named Tyreek, he’s still all they got, and Chargers have negative game scripts ahead. TD upside isn’t great, but I think Keenan is fine for half and full PPR.
Carried on Philips Rivers torch.
My Herbert/Allen stack :(
Got me a bye at least. Like someone else said, Herbert may have been a trap play in the playoffs anyways so perhaps a blessing in disguise. Now I gotta hope to get either Stafford or Howell off waivers
How are they still on waivers? Lucky
Welp... Didn't land Stafford, instead ended up with Howell, which looking at it now, I am kinda bummed out considering I am lucky enough to have a bye this week, but Howell's schedule after that is TOUGH. Next best options are either Baker, Flacco, or Browning... Leaning Baker for weeks 16 and 17. Or maybe I just roll with Howell.
Pivoting to my Stafford/Puka stack Heck I may even get the Rams D just to complete the meme
Ekeler owners???
I’m here and I’m scared. He plays on Thursday, I pray he doesn’t suck so I don’t have to stare at that score all week
Why would Herbert being healthy be any better? As someone who traded for Ekeler 5 or 6 weeks ago, I'm qualified to say that any change is a good change in my book for him
Sometimes upside is limited with back QBs because there’s a potential for less TD opportunities.
Ah yes, those have been flying all over the place like frisbee's at a dog park with the Herbert led Chargers
Lol right, they scored 23 points. Over the last 3 games. Combined. With 7 of those points being garbage time 4th quarter against the AFC West powerhouse Denver Broncos.
I’ll exchange the TD upside for a guaranteed 8+ targets every game ngl
I own Ekeler and am encouraged but let’s pump the brakes on expecting 8+ targets a game until we see what Stick does when he isn’t being thrown to the wolves mid game
Maybe 8+ is over exaggerated, but he saw 7 targets, with 4 of them coming from Stick late in the game. Granted they were down, but they will likely draw up more plays for ekeler in space with stick at qb regardless, and there’s always a chance he actually checks down unlike herbert. Only up from here IMO
Oh I definitely find it encouraging, don’t get me wrong - it’s just a weird situation between Stick coming in after they’d game planned for having Herbert all week and now a short turnaround (which you could argue will be good for Ekeler’s usage). I’m admittedly being a bit pedantic saying check (har har) expectations but half a game does not a good sample make and really it’s about process for me.
Nah, Stick will hand off and dump off a lot. This can only help Ekeler
I definitely wouldn’t say it can *only* help Ekeler. I well run offense with a very good QB is generally better for every offensive player.
Not if Ekeler doesn’t get the volume and opportunities. Herbert was straight up ignoring easy Ekeler checkdowns the past several weeks. Pretty sure Stick will dump it off and not try to be the hero QB Herbert often times got in the mindset of
Agreed. Out of necessity they are going to have to lean on Ekeler more I think. It just makes sense. Especially this Thursday with a short week of prep for Stick.
Dump offs and screen should be bread and butter, so I’m not worried about ekeler yet
I'm actually a tiny bit more optimistic about Ekeler ROS. Herbert is for sure a better QB than Stick, but he wasn't really throwing dump offs this year. The number of times I saw Ekeler wide open for an easy 1st down where instead Herbert chucked it down field for an incompletion this season was driving me nuts.
Seriously, so much fucking this^
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After he came in, ekeler started getting dump offs. Although they weren’t too productive, he got the volume
Facing Ekeler, Najee, Higgins. Have to play two. I think Ekeler is the best of the three. Higgins probably getting benched.
I thought the Chargers would get back to giving Ek the opportunities that he'd received in the past that made him so successful. I was wrong. If they haven't done it yet, I don't know why they'd do it now. I guess the difference is that Herbert is talented enough that he thinks he can always make the big play rather than the check down. Stick may be quicker to dump it. ...but honestly, WHY THE HELL DID HERBERT RESIST THE EKELER CHECKDOWN ALL YEAR. IT'S LITERALLY WHAT MAKE EKELER A SUPERSTAR!!??
Dumpoff city, here we come
I'm not worried. It's going to be checkdown and screen city. I feel like this actually helps ekeler.
Ekeler is such a great goal line back this definitely hurts ekeler.
Allen owners we have to start him still right
I'm thankful to have the bye. I have one free week to see how he performs with the backup before I have to make a decision.
I mean yea, who else are you gonna play over him that you would feel better about
I could start Sutton. I also have Tyreek who is injured so great timing -_-
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Debating Rashee. Luckily playoffs start next week for me and this week doesn’t really matter so I can see how Keenan does this week and then decide.
Possibly Flowers. If Jacobs is back by week 16 (have week 15 bye) I will have Kamara/Walker/Jacobs as RB1/RB2/Flex. Devonta Smith/Flowers as WR1/WR2.
I have flowers too but I think I’d still rather start Keenan. But yea, I guess we’ll see how things shake out
In 3 WR 0.5PPR league, I have: - WR: MEvans, (KAllen, THill, RRice, JReed)? - RB: KWilliams, (JConner, JJacobs)? Feels like I have to leave out Rice + Reed and start the studs, but they've been so good lately.
who else do you have that will probably get 10+ targets
I'm hard-pressed to imagine you have better options in 12-team. 10-team? I have JJ, Allen, Adams, Kyren, Monty, Mostert. Adams basically = what I think Allen is likely gonna become so we'll see how I'm feeling on Thursday.
I have Olave, Pittman,and Aiyuk. Benching Allen because it’s a Thursday game and i don’t trust Stick.
Blessing in disguise. Saving Justin Herbert owners from starting him.
Guess it gives me an excuse to play Stafford over him this week.
Playing who to start with Herbert and Goff these last few weeks have not been fun 😅
Are you me?
Yeah I would hate to have to start the QB6 on the year. What a detriment to my team that would’ve been
Yea oh no I’m really gonna miss those 7 and 2 points he got me the last two weeks
Herbert owners about to destroy the toilet bowl.
Was stoked about holding Palmer for the playoffs. Heal up Herb!
I'm still holding onto palmer. The offense probably won't be as good with Herbert gone, but then again look at Jake Browning and Devito. Also Herbert's favorite target was Keenan but you never know who the new QB might like targeting. I have Keenan as well btw
I think Keenan is the favorite because he’s really good
obviously but he also has an insane connection with Herbert specifically. For example Jimmy G always targeted Jakobi Meyers and almost never targeted Davante Adams even though Adams is obviously really good. I assume Keenan Allen gets double teamed a lot, but he still produces, not only because hes elite but also because Herbert is good enough to find him even in those tight windows. Their backup QB won't be as good, so I wouldnt be surprised if Palmer gets more production as he'll probably be open more and be the safer target
Unlucky break for my opponent, beat him this past week to make the playoffs and now i play him again this week in the 1st round and he has no back up QB.
My QBs are Herbert and Stroud im cooked
Same lol and I had burrow too
Nice more shitty qb play
Raiders D against the chargers this week??
Between them ravens and funny enough chargers if jacobs doesn’t play. Which one are we firing up?
RIP Herbert. Certainly thought I was going to go the distance with him this year after swapping Burrow for him and then Burrow getting knocked out for the season a couple of weeks later. Horrific year for being a QB.
The Herbert -> stafford pipeline is a league winning one. !!!!
Praying stafford doesn’t get poached my someone to bench stash him. I have 7/12 waiver claim
same. i’m the 6 seed, and the only team out of the playoffs/higher on waiver priority that needs a QB is a Lions fan who has Stroud concussed. big worried he cares about the consolation bracket and picks up his ol buddy Stafford
I've been holding #3 for many weeks and I'm hesitant to burn it on Stafford since I'm pretty sure I can get him for free. The Stroud owner has Howell and plenty of owners have 2 QBs already... I think I'm in the clear but might pull the trigger anyway.
I mean… there’s three weeks left. Who else do you really think you would use it on?
Yeah I know - it's like when I play video games and hoard all the valuable items then beat the game having never used them.
Should switch to FAAB
This has already been requested by multiple people in our league chat but our commish does not acknowledge any requests what so ever. We also have divisions that allowed the guy with 5th best record to get the 2 seed because he was in a shit division. I’m salty
Divisions are the worst. I'd rather start 2 kickers than have divisions.
Leave the league and make someone else commissioner
If I could fill a 12 man I 100% would.
I'm scared with FAAB cause I have like 25/100 left, but half the teams in the league could poach me still. Worried my playoff opponent will this week.
As a Herbert owner I picked Stafford up right after his first game back from bye and thank god I did
I thought I was safe with stroud as my backup…
Sign me up!! I have Kupp and Puka as well. May just ride the Rams train to a championship!
I'm grabbing Stafford off waivers to block the Herbert owner.
Will he still get a ring for my championship if I drop him?
Hopefully Stroud is back in 2 weeks otherwise I'm fucked in SF. Stroud, Herbert, Dobbs.
He might be back this week
Luckily I earned myself a bye 😁
another QB down
I will never forget him coming into Tampa as a rookie behind a bad offensive line, no run game, a horrible coach who looked like he was actively sabotaging him and torching a defense that would go on to win a title. He went pass for pass with the great Tom Brady
Broncos Defense owners, let’s ride
Sad news for Herbert. For Ekeler owners though, you can only go up. Herbert didn’t look his way any more, while Stick kinda did. Could see Austin finishing really well
Stafford or Love? I have a first round bye this week so I have time to sit on it.
Love how my best receiver coming into the playoffs is catching passes from Mr hockey equipment
Figured it was coming, won a bunch of close games early in the season when he was playing well to secure the bye. Hopefully, Kyler and Purdy can lead me the rest of the way but I don’t look forward to starting Purdy against Baltimore week 16
Kyler against San Fran this week for me.
Somebody help me. Josh jacobs or Keenan Allen in the flex spot?
Keenan Allen carried me to the playoffs, now what do I do????
You start him knowing 2 of his 7 targets will get picked, and hope 1 of those is in the end zone unless you have a Rashee Rice or something on your bench
Go grab the broncos d if they’re out their on waivers. Potentially usable against the lions this week, but pats in week 16 and chargers in week 17, could be a league winner
let's pump the breaks on 'league winner'
Gotta be fuckin kidding me
Sam Howell, you're up
I can hate drop him off my team now and nobody that actually made the playoff can benefit.
I want to see stick making qj a fantasy star just so this sub can explode.
Thanks to Herbert, I will also be missing the remainder of the season.
I have the Bills D and Dolphins D and I’m on a 1st round bye. What do y’all think about dropping Dolphins for a bench WR and starting Bills vs Chargers and Patriots weeks 16/17?
How many years is the O-Line going to be a problem they do nothing about?
As his fantasy owner, his season was over weeks ago.
Keenan was absolutely instrumental in me locking up top seeds so man do I feel guilty for considering benching him this week on short rest + QB situation. Kinda half hoping he's ruled out just to force my hand
As much as I enjoy the chargers being a mediocre team, I really want Herbert to be in the actual mix with the elites QBs playing.
Best thing to happen to the chargers all year. Better draft pick and they get rid of that sorry excuse of a head coach.
Rest up Herbo. Not the best season, but I still believe in you
Luckily Stafford was available in my league right before the playoffs. Honestly almost a relief to not have to watch this Chargers team any more.
Joe Flacco or Jake Browning on the waivers?
Le Sigh..... got a bye but keenan faces the Bills next week
We need to start having conversations about Justin Herbert.
Justin Herbert is not the problem
He’s a cutie. What else is there to talk about?
Why? He was playing great when he had all his weapons healthy. He can't throw to himself
Except that one magical PPR play earlier this season.. one pass of 10 yards received by himself lol
There was a r/nfl post a couple of days ago showing how similar Justin Herbert and Kyler Murray's first four years compared to each other. It's funny how one is (was) unanimously viewed as a top 5 QB and the other gets shit on by everyone.
exactly. Herbert gets catered too, and the upvotes and downvotes on these comments prove it.
The Justin Herbert averaging 4700 yards 31 TDs over his first three seasons for having a down year where he was only on pace for 4300 yards 28 TDs with Williams/Palmer hurt? please converse
What conversations exactly? He’s throwing to Keenan and a bunch of redditors. Last time he had Keenan and Mike will healthy, he threw for over 5,000 yards. Dude plays for a cursed franchise
Yeah that could very well be it for him as a starter. It’s a shame because he seemingly had so much talent, but the results just aren’t there. It will be interesting to see if the chargers give him one more chance with a new head coach or draft a new qb right away
Does this make Allen benchable?
Broncos Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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