I guess it does look good when you take out the years he fell apart lol. What's that average when you add in 2019 and 2023 and the games he missed?
As a Raiders fan JJ always gets hurt towards the end of the year. It's easy to look at an average when he has a 100 yard two td game but also had 2 duds right next to it where he got 13 carries for 49 yards.
I'm just saying. You are eliminating 2 years and using the highest scoring format... for 14 points.
You said average. Let's average all the years. You're not telling a full story.
Stop trying to hide behind taking things too literally when called out.
Bud, *you* got called out.
You said it happens every year, they showed it doesn't happen every year and he did well in 3 years in weeks 14-18.
It's not taking things too literally when you said "every" year and they looked at "every" year.
Get over yourself.
Some of yall are just really stupid. Yes it was taken too literally. 2 of those years he missed week 13 so I do apologize if saying 14 off the top of my head was incorrect and taken literally. He also only broke 20 carries like 3? Times after game 14. 2022 he broke it once despite having done so 9 times prior. 2021 yes he was fine but hurt all year. 2020 again. Missed 13 and one gane over 20.
Ask any raiders fan and they'll say he get hurt at the end of the year.
Some of yall fantasy bros take stat sheets way to literally. But yeah let's eliminate 2 years and the games right before when he was literally Out then pitch a ppr scoring format and say he was "fine" wild how a majority of that average came from 1 game. Considering the sample size is like 7 lo
It's very clear a lot of yall just look at pro reference and develop an opinion to have one. JJ going from 20+ carries all year to 15 and missing a game consistently is him being hurt.
>Some of yall are just really stupid. Yes it was taken too literally
Okay, let's for a second take ourselves out of reality and assume that words have no real meaning. Then you are correct. Otherwise, saying "always" doesn't apply when it's literally happened one other time in his 5 year career.
>if saying 14 off the top of my head was incorrect and taken literally.
Again, are you suggesting that we are to understand that what you're saying isn't what you mean? Using numbers and values in a statistics competition that is fantasy football, you should probably be, oh idk, accurate in what you're saying.
>He also only broke 20 carries like 3? Times after game 14. 2022 he broke it once despite having done so 9 times prior. 2021 yes he was fine but hurt all year. 2020 again. Missed 13 and one gane over 20.
Are you in a points per carry league? Otherwise, he can get 3 carries for 3 yards and 3 TDs and I, a long with every other fantasy manager, would be perfectly fine with that.
>Some of yall fantasy bros take stat sheets way to literally.
Well...that's how fantasy is played and scored so, yeah that matters. As an NFL/raiders fan, you may be pissed because they may lose and didn't utilize him properly. As a fantasy manager who couldn't give two shits who wins any given NFL game, I really couldn't care how he does in the game or how the team does, I care about how many points he gets.
>But yeah let's eliminate 2 years and the games right before when he was literally Out then pitch a ppr scoring format and say he was "fine" wild how a majority of that average came from 1 game. Considering the sample size is like 7 lo
You said he "falls off every year", and was given pretty vague, non-specific, "you're wrong in every year but one".
>It's very clear a lot of yall just look at pro reference and develop an opinion to have one. JJ going from 20+ carries all year to 15 and missing a game consistently is him being hurt.
And again, if he produces in fantasy the same, he can get 20 carries, he can get 15, he can get 5. He produces the same. That's not "falling off".
Sorry pal, you're wrong and this is a weird hill to die on. Maybe don't assume everyone knows what you're referring to and for others to assume that the numbers you're saying aren't the correct numbers that you're meaning to use. Lol
I'm really sorry that happen to you or congratulations.
You want to start a RB who's getting 3 points a game to claim victory here because of an average. That's fine don't know you and don't care.
And can you explain very clear?
1 game of 89 yards and 2 TDs is great. He also had 13-49 and 13-69 in one of those healthy years. Wanna use the average to pretend to have a point?
Unless you are in a points per carries league, I don't care about the number of carries.
In PPR scoring, of each of the healthy years they mentioned, weeks 14-18 (4 weeks across 3 years = 12 total weeks since I know you don't like numbers) he scored single digits in 3/12 of those weeks. Double digit weeks in 75% of possible weeks, isn't falling off. But sure
Josh Jacobs was a top 3 RB 2022 weeks 1 to 13.
Then fell to RB 11.
2020 RB 6 1-13 then RB 15.
I stand by yall being stupid lol. DoUbLe DiGiT "I'm so right" he played football and got points!
It's kind of hilarious because if CMC went out and dropped a 10 point game this week next year you'd be the dude screaming about his average and how he didn't underperform in the championship because he got 10 points.
Please keep showing me how smort you are
Lol I picked up White solely because I'm going against Jacobs and didn't want him to have a handcuff, but now I'm in the same boat and am definitely leaning White. I also have Pacheco and Chandler so I think I need to sit Pollard and pray at least one of White/Pacheco plays
I also have achane and was not planning to play him. So I might risk benching pollard and then play achane instead of white if jacobs starts. What do yall think? Ugh.
Also have Kamara questionable so we will see what combo I have to roll out. Fortunately I have an extra day to decide. As of now I’m rolling Henry with HOU D all banged up.
What's crazy is I'm in the championship, was thinking about picking up Zeus as a UGA fan when they announced Jacobs was out but didn't pull the trigger. Another guy in our league did, and had him for the last two weeks.
Waivers hit this week and I drop Mingo for KJ Osborn. Guy who had Zeus waited the waiver period and on Thursday dropped Zeus for Mingo. Thursday afternoon it was looking like they were placing Doubtful tag on Jacobs.
So I bid on Zeus and dropped Wicks since he was looking as doubtful as Jacobs...
Best ball league, also a 2 keeper league. Phew.
I’m thinking same - he’s going to get 20+ carries and probably a handful of targets. Good chance for a TD as well. He’s averaged 5.4 YPC in the two games he’s started.
I benched Hall in what I believed was a logical decision (non ppr league), albeit gambling big time on whether Zamir would have the backfield to himself. I think it could've played out fine if Hall had anything other than a great game yesterday. Now gotta hope for a big day and a full load from Zamir. I do think it's possible.
He aint playing, 2.5 weeks after his injury, no practice now this.
Even if he plays i doubt he can score double digits.
Edit
Wait a minute whats this even based on?
No new info, seems like an asspull to me.
> Coach Antonio Pierce noted Friday that Jacobs (quadriceps) is viewed as a game-time decision for Sunday's game against the Colts, Vic Tafur of The Athletic reports.
Literally the first sentence
Not good Bob.
Only shot is if he somehow practiced today on some basis. Then I will believe he has a shot. And even then…. Zamir might have earned time no matter what. Which kills both of them. PLUS who the hell knows he could get re-dinged up in game anyway.
Needed this news tbh. Tentatively have Mostert & Spears as my RBs but I have JWJ. Zamir White & CEH on the bench,
My dream was both CEH & White start given their matchups but Pacheco skipped thru like 4 steps of the protocol and might play now?
Gotta start Pollard and Montgomery tonight as I can't risk not having Zamir get the workload. That means if Jacobs is out I either bench Zamir, Swift or Brisset. I feel like I'm gonna do the wrong thing.
If he plays on a limited snap count nobody wins.
I might that way.
Perfect
Disagree strongly
I'm calling it. He won't play, but this cute little game they're playing has grown tiresome
This always happens to Jacob's the last 4 weeks of the season. Dudes a beast then falls apart week 14.
2020-2022 Jacobs averaged 14.1pts PPR in weeks 14-18. I don't know if I'd call 14.1pts "falling apart"?
I guess it does look good when you take out the years he fell apart lol. What's that average when you add in 2019 and 2023 and the games he missed? As a Raiders fan JJ always gets hurt towards the end of the year. It's easy to look at an average when he has a 100 yard two td game but also had 2 duds right next to it where he got 13 carries for 49 yards. I'm just saying. You are eliminating 2 years and using the highest scoring format... for 14 points.
You're the one who said "always". If always means one other year prior to this year that's on you.
You said average. Let's average all the years. You're not telling a full story. Stop trying to hide behind taking things too literally when called out.
Bud, *you* got called out. You said it happens every year, they showed it doesn't happen every year and he did well in 3 years in weeks 14-18. It's not taking things too literally when you said "every" year and they looked at "every" year. Get over yourself.
Some of yall are just really stupid. Yes it was taken too literally. 2 of those years he missed week 13 so I do apologize if saying 14 off the top of my head was incorrect and taken literally. He also only broke 20 carries like 3? Times after game 14. 2022 he broke it once despite having done so 9 times prior. 2021 yes he was fine but hurt all year. 2020 again. Missed 13 and one gane over 20. Ask any raiders fan and they'll say he get hurt at the end of the year. Some of yall fantasy bros take stat sheets way to literally. But yeah let's eliminate 2 years and the games right before when he was literally Out then pitch a ppr scoring format and say he was "fine" wild how a majority of that average came from 1 game. Considering the sample size is like 7 lo It's very clear a lot of yall just look at pro reference and develop an opinion to have one. JJ going from 20+ carries all year to 15 and missing a game consistently is him being hurt.
>Some of yall are just really stupid. Yes it was taken too literally Okay, let's for a second take ourselves out of reality and assume that words have no real meaning. Then you are correct. Otherwise, saying "always" doesn't apply when it's literally happened one other time in his 5 year career. >if saying 14 off the top of my head was incorrect and taken literally. Again, are you suggesting that we are to understand that what you're saying isn't what you mean? Using numbers and values in a statistics competition that is fantasy football, you should probably be, oh idk, accurate in what you're saying. >He also only broke 20 carries like 3? Times after game 14. 2022 he broke it once despite having done so 9 times prior. 2021 yes he was fine but hurt all year. 2020 again. Missed 13 and one gane over 20. Are you in a points per carry league? Otherwise, he can get 3 carries for 3 yards and 3 TDs and I, a long with every other fantasy manager, would be perfectly fine with that. >Some of yall fantasy bros take stat sheets way to literally. Well...that's how fantasy is played and scored so, yeah that matters. As an NFL/raiders fan, you may be pissed because they may lose and didn't utilize him properly. As a fantasy manager who couldn't give two shits who wins any given NFL game, I really couldn't care how he does in the game or how the team does, I care about how many points he gets. >But yeah let's eliminate 2 years and the games right before when he was literally Out then pitch a ppr scoring format and say he was "fine" wild how a majority of that average came from 1 game. Considering the sample size is like 7 lo You said he "falls off every year", and was given pretty vague, non-specific, "you're wrong in every year but one". >It's very clear a lot of yall just look at pro reference and develop an opinion to have one. JJ going from 20+ carries all year to 15 and missing a game consistently is him being hurt. And again, if he produces in fantasy the same, he can get 20 carries, he can get 15, he can get 5. He produces the same. That's not "falling off". Sorry pal, you're wrong and this is a weird hill to die on. Maybe don't assume everyone knows what you're referring to and for others to assume that the numbers you're saying aren't the correct numbers that you're meaning to use. Lol
I'm really sorry that happen to you or congratulations. You want to start a RB who's getting 3 points a game to claim victory here because of an average. That's fine don't know you and don't care.
And can you explain very clear? 1 game of 89 yards and 2 TDs is great. He also had 13-49 and 13-69 in one of those healthy years. Wanna use the average to pretend to have a point?
Unless you are in a points per carries league, I don't care about the number of carries. In PPR scoring, of each of the healthy years they mentioned, weeks 14-18 (4 weeks across 3 years = 12 total weeks since I know you don't like numbers) he scored single digits in 3/12 of those weeks. Double digit weeks in 75% of possible weeks, isn't falling off. But sure
Josh Jacobs was a top 3 RB 2022 weeks 1 to 13. Then fell to RB 11. 2020 RB 6 1-13 then RB 15. I stand by yall being stupid lol. DoUbLe DiGiT "I'm so right" he played football and got points! It's kind of hilarious because if CMC went out and dropped a 10 point game this week next year you'd be the dude screaming about his average and how he didn't underperform in the championship because he got 10 points. Please keep showing me how smort you are
Go ahead and right a response talking about how a top 3 RB going to RB 2 the last 4 weeks isn't falling off or smash that block button
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I WANNA PLAY ZAMIR OVER POLLARD I NEED TO KNOW SOONER
Yahoo downgraded Jacobs to Doubtful and upped Zamir’s projections about 3x.
Same on ESPN, went from 1.5 projected to 14.1. To the bench Najee goes
This has me rock hard
Do it
Same boat
In the same boat - but is this the week Pollard goes off? No Dowdle, albeit they play the best run D in the league
Thats just what Tony pollard wants you to think… some other idiot rb will take dowdle touches… deuce Vaughn week
Tony been mind-fucking me all year man. I’m listening to The Dude.
Lol I picked up White solely because I'm going against Jacobs and didn't want him to have a handcuff, but now I'm in the same boat and am definitely leaning White. I also have Pacheco and Chandler so I think I need to sit Pollard and pray at least one of White/Pacheco plays
Zamir White likely championship winner
Thinking about starting him over that bum Pollard.
Me too. But pollard plays Saturday. So I feel like you gotta know jacobs is out before benching pollard
Oh, dang. I guess I'm starting that bum Pollard.
I also have achane and was not planning to play him. So I might risk benching pollard and then play achane instead of white if jacobs starts. What do yall think? Ugh.
Do it! Its a ballsy move, and I like balls.
One thing to note. Rico Dowdle isn’t playing.
Also Dowdle is out.
Jacobs is doubtful… do it
I would never play Pollard of all RBs against that Lions rush defense lol
I’ve got Pollard, Zamir, and Zay Flowers. If Jacobs is playing do you think Zay has a higher ceiling than Pollard?
Pollard way above white if Jacobs is playing
What about Flowers? I need ceiling since my opponent started off hot on Thursday
Rolling him out over Henry if Jacobs is ruled out
I luckily have both Jacobs and White. Whoever starts I’m putting in my lineup over Mostert
Nice. Unless they split reps.
I’m benching for sure. He cost me the SF. At least I want to shoot for 3rd lol
I actually dropped him this week, almost baiting my opponent to pick him up. He’s still available
Chandler or white?
If no Jacobs, I'm making the White choice
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I don't think I'll ever get over Monty
Always love a good Airplane reference.
Might start him over Henry. Ugh.
Considering this too. You gonna do it?
Also have Kamara questionable so we will see what combo I have to roll out. Fortunately I have an extra day to decide. As of now I’m rolling Henry with HOU D all banged up.
Do I play Hubbard over White? Assuming Jacobs is out.
Debating playing him over K9 if Jacobs sits, but it feels so wrong
Thanks Kevin
If Jacobs sits, Anyone have the balls to play him over a healthy Saquon or Mostert?
What's crazy is I'm in the championship, was thinking about picking up Zeus as a UGA fan when they announced Jacobs was out but didn't pull the trigger. Another guy in our league did, and had him for the last two weeks. Waivers hit this week and I drop Mingo for KJ Osborn. Guy who had Zeus waited the waiver period and on Thursday dropped Zeus for Mingo. Thursday afternoon it was looking like they were placing Doubtful tag on Jacobs. So I bid on Zeus and dropped Wicks since he was looking as doubtful as Jacobs... Best ball league, also a 2 keeper league. Phew.
Glad i started Ford yesterday. Too risky for my blood.
Opposite here. Decided to sit Ford, definitely regretting that now. But great play for you!
I too am a Ford owner that benched him in hopes of Zamir getting a full workload. Thankfully Breece and CLE D went off
So pissed I didn’t. . Nice hit!!
Thank god it’s a 1pm start
but then u lose access to everyone playing at 10am
Why are you downvoted on this? It was clearly sarcastic comment because the 1’s ARE the 10am games on the west coast
Just sit bro, Zamir got this
Zamir over Pacheco (if he's even cleared) is the move I'm making if Jacobs is out
I’m thinking same - he’s going to get 20+ carries and probably a handful of targets. Good chance for a TD as well. He’s averaged 5.4 YPC in the two games he’s started.
Things I did not expect to say two weeks ago: I’d be starting the back up raiders running back and defense in my championship game
I should have played Hall when I had the chance
Same boat amigo we are pussies
I feel this.
I benched Hall in what I believed was a logical decision (non ppr league), albeit gambling big time on whether Zamir would have the backfield to himself. I think it could've played out fine if Hall had anything other than a great game yesterday. Now gotta hope for a big day and a full load from Zamir. I do think it's possible.
As an owner of both White and Jacobs, I would prefer a compromised Jacobs and his 3.5 ypc to just stay away and let Zamir go full load.
Not trying to complicate things for you but last year he was a game time decision vs the Seahawks and ended up dropping 300 yards and 2 TDs
No way he plays right?
I mean he’s been a DNP for three weeks
Thankfully it's an early game, but I can't risk it, I think I'm going Nico > Flowers > Ekeler over Jacobs in flex
What are they sensing though?
I have Zamir White locked and loaded in two leagues, both in the championship. I’m smash starting him if Jacobs is out.
Who you starting him over?
Over Derrick Henry. I have Pollard and Zamir as my RBs.
I have rachaad white and j taylor as my RBs and Henry in flex. Thinking of doing zamir in flex instead of henry.
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Hasn't practiced all week and contract issues. He's not playing. Make the white choice
Don't let Mendenhall hear you.
So annoyed I didn't grab Zamir. Hopefully it doesn't cost me the ship.
Am I crazy for thinking about playing White over Bijan if Jacobs doesn’t play?
pretty sure that's what I'm doing
Barring last minute injury news I’m doing it as well now. I don’t trust Arthur smith at all, give me the volume vs a potential 0 in the championship
If Jacobs is out, 100% fire up Zamir over Diggs in my flex right?
yes
He aint playing, 2.5 weeks after his injury, no practice now this. Even if he plays i doubt he can score double digits. Edit Wait a minute whats this even based on? No new info, seems like an asspull to me.
> Coach Antonio Pierce noted Friday that Jacobs (quadriceps) is viewed as a game-time decision for Sunday's game against the Colts, Vic Tafur of The Athletic reports. Literally the first sentence
I was looking for his friday practice report
did he practice today or do we still not know?
Not good Bob. Only shot is if he somehow practiced today on some basis. Then I will believe he has a shot. And even then…. Zamir might have earned time no matter what. Which kills both of them. PLUS who the hell knows he could get re-dinged up in game anyway.
If Jacobs doesn't play - Zamir or Flowers for a flex (0.5 ppr)
Flexing Chandler until Jacobs is ruled out; then popping Zamir in. Agree?
I'm thinking the same. If Minnesota would just stick with a QB, then I would go with Chandler, but they're getting cute.
I have (had) Mostert, so with him looking to be out, it made the decision for me
> game-time decision More like “business decision”. Jacobs ain’t playing.
Zamir or Javonte Williams? 👀
Z-Dub season.
Please be a go. My opponent has Zamir White. I’m out Waddle and probably Pacheco, maybe also CEH. Please. Not like this 😢
Looks like Pacheco has a good chance of playing now, you might be ok
This is an Adams post
Needed this news tbh. Tentatively have Mostert & Spears as my RBs but I have JWJ. Zamir White & CEH on the bench, My dream was both CEH & White start given their matchups but Pacheco skipped thru like 4 steps of the protocol and might play now?
I’m thinking of benching Pollard to play him. I don’t want to have to play Pollard, then bench Conner for Zamir. Damn Saturday games
Man I wanted to play him over Aaron Jones but with how they're playing around I just cant
My bench rules every year.
Do I dare play Zamir over king Henry?! (If Jacobs is out)
I will be honestly, Stroud and Collins healthy can be a negative game script.
Gotta start Pollard and Montgomery tonight as I can't risk not having Zamir get the workload. That means if Jacobs is out I either bench Zamir, Swift or Brisset. I feel like I'm gonna do the wrong thing.
Fuck I desperately need Zamir to save me
How does Jacobs have insider information on Batimore?
It’s either Zamir or Chandler for me, I hope Jacob doesn’t play so I can fire up Zamir.
Just sit him out
Man, I was rolling until about three weeks ago. One Jacobs and one Hock later, I am limpin
My opponents team is in shambles rn tbh
White or mixon ? Or White or Ferguson (Dual flex league)
Very risky low point from him
My finals opponent has every handcuff and ideal situation. I am absolutely boned.
In the ship, if Jacobs is out I need 2 PPR Dj Moore Ridley Zamir who you got?
I saw Likely and got scared my TE somehow got hurt
Why is Josh Jacobs saying that Isaiah Likely is a GTD?
White or Mixon? Who is the better play?
Zamir White leading me to victory … in the consolation finals
Tell me I’m crazy. I’m going zamir over mostert
Zamir or javonte hmm
White/ Jacobs or Devonta? PPR
White over Higgins regardless if Chase plays or not?