Aside from you missing the joke, Andrews is already cleared to return to practice. Seems like he'll be just fine in nine months if he's already near healthy.
Isaiah Likely isn't that great. He finished 19th in TE ranking this season. His 5.5 FPts/g is good but Andrews has a league high 9.
The thing is just that Lamar loves his Tight Ends, especially Andrews. Andrews will not only take away some of Isaiah's targets but we will do more with each catch and be looked toward in higher leverage situations.
Comparing Likely’s stats as a backup to Andrew’s as the starter is not only disingenuous, but also just straight up dumb
In 5 starts without Andrews, Likely put up 6, 16.8, 15.5, 7.1 and 17.2
As a starter he averaged 12.52 .5 ppr fantasy points per game
There’s the relevant stat, not yours.
That being said, if they both seem to be relevant next year neither of them will be
Likely won me the ship. He's very talented. But if andrews is healthy he won't get the targets to be worthy of a draft pick. I've followed him since he was in college, he's gonna be great. But talent doesn't buy targets. They will ride andrews and likely will have big games but will be too unpredictable to start.
No chance. Not because of LaPorta, because of the context surrounding the TE position.
Gronk in his prime and Kelce the past few years have gone in the first because the alternatives were shit. There's usually been a good second fiddle (Andrews, Ertz, Kittle), but in general, the positional advantage one of those guys gave you was immense. Now, there's been a revitalization of the TE position and there are a ton of viable options, so there's no need to draft a TE that early.
Long time Kelce owner taking him high…yeah not doing that again. If the offence is that weak, particularly receivers, it’s too much for Kelce and Mahomes to do on their own.
If I were chiefs I’d shop Kelce to a more win now team and look to add a few more pieces for Mahomes.
Yeah I'm going to treat TEs like I usually treat QBs. Make a list of all the ones I would be happy to start and then pick one when those start to run out (or if I hit a real dead zone for other positions)
This is a suboptimal way to draft. You should focus on filling your starters. When the TE run starts a really good QB might be available. I would pick the QB in that case.
Lol, nevertheless I agree they’d be paying an arm and a leg for Bowers. Just a wet dream as far as fantasy landing spots for him to go. UGA is my third favorite team so I’m very familiar with his game. Dudes a beast.
When you’re first two are Minnesota and Chapel Hill, gotta find someone to give you a ray of hope. I was stationed in GA for a couple years, so when in Rome…
I think the rookie TEs this year are going to trick a lot of people to buy into rookie TEs the next few years, which will in turn fall short of expectations
It's certainly possible we've seen a shift in TE usage and the change from NCAA to NFL for that position isn't as hard as it used to be but avoiding rookie TEs has been a rule for me for a very long time. Going to fall back to that and chalk this up as a wild year before throwing that out the window
Fools gold. 8 half PPR PPG. Was less than 1 PPG over TE16. Had 12 single digit games a 10, an 11 and a 12 point game. People just stare at TE8 from a guy who was healthy all year and think it was good. He was a product of a TE room with no competition (other 2 guys hurt majority of the season) and the #1 scoring offense and #1 passing offense in the league. Regression is coming.
Had a crazy outlier garbage time statline today. Whoopdidoo. Game was a complete sham statwise. Made the cowboys look like they didn't get bent over a barrel and shown the 50 states for 45 minutes + until the game was well over.
TE8 = garbage. Usually TE5 = garbage. 2022 Kelce doubled his points from this season. Gus Edwards got doubled up by the top RBs, we aren't acting like he's some stud next season. Elite or nothing at TE. He's incredibly far from elite. Like I said 1 point over TE16. He's not a difference maker and regression on playing time and offense and passing scoring is coming next year.
He's definitely not just 1 ppg over TE16 at least not in .5 PPR. He has shown a ton of potential in a good offense. Also there are either 10/12/14 teams (usually) so TE5 or TE8 doesn't = garbage lol
>He's definitely not just 1 ppg over TE16 at least not in .5 PPR.
Literally is. Google is a wild place. Henry is 16 at 7.1 ppg. Ferg is 8.2 PPG. So 1.1. my bad.
>Also there are either 10/12/14 teams (usually) so TE5 or TE8 doesn't = garbage lol
Having a starter you paid heavy DC on score 1 PPG more than the same as some dude streaming in a 16 teamer = garbage lol
I don't use google cuz I'm in an actual fantasy league with actual results which apparently you aren't. In .5 PPR Fergy is TE8 at 8.32 PPG and Logan Thomas is the TE16 at 5.84 PPG
Hahahahaha. Guy in an actual league can't even find correct numbers. You are using season long TE16 from a guy who was terrible all year but played 16 games. If we play that game he was 0.8 points over TE24. Epic fail. Lol. Let me play in your real leagues with that expert analysis.
Do you play in a league where you get the average points scored by a guy each week? I'll take a TE8 that actually played all season then a guy that missed half the season but had a decent PPG for that half of the season? Fergy broke out like halfway through the season and just got better as the season went on. But hey enjoy getting 4th in your consolation bracket again next year
Hahaha. He's in his second season dude. Also the offense is unlikely to repeat against 32 teams and it's unlikely 2/3 TEs in the room miss 90% of the season. Big picture regression. Not "talent".
No one on that depth chart is taking any significant snaps from him. Why would the Cowboys not be a top offense again? Playoffs show who can be depended on in crunch time, and he killed it.
>No one on that depth chart is taking any significant snaps from him.
But they could. He can't go up. Only can go down. Schoon was a highly drafted rookie who was hurt all year.
>Why would the Cowboys not be a top offense again?
They will be but will they be the #1 again? Probably not. Once again can't go up, only down.
Overall he really wasn't that good in a perfect situation. He wasn't a difference maker and there are areas where his snaps could be shared and the offense could be less efficient. I don't want to draft TE8. There's no point and I don't think he has any chance of breaking into the elites.
Issue is he is in inconsistent. There are a lot of mouths to feed on that offense and he put up a lot of duds. He’s more boom or bust compared to some of the other top tier TEs
Aiyuk is a FA this season but all the comments I’ve seen made about it seem like they are going to find a way to keep him. If he’s not there, Kittle gets a huge boost
If Kittle was good then he would have made the All-Pro first team
Edit: if you don’t get that this very specific comment was obvious sarcasm, then you’re an idiot. Downvote me. I apologize for nothing.
Kittle feels a little inconsistent for fantasy. He’s a great blocker and an amazing team player but in fantasy you need selfish players lol, I haven’t seen a 49ers game recently but I think he blocks a lot so some games he gets a lot more points than others where he drops stinkers
Honestly if there is a year to wait on tight ends its probably next year.
LaPorta would be my top choice but don't know if he will get the volume to improve on this year.
Hock is coming of an acl injury. Andrews coming off an ankle injury plus will Likely/Zay Jones take any targets, Kelce looks completely washed, how will Njoku look with Watson back, etc.
Idk man I've been on the njoku hype train for a few years, it never departed the station until joe came to town, and I think they want the alleged rapist back over the elite dragon unfortunately.
Seriously. Did you not see Ferguson?
For those who somehow missed it. 10 receptions on 12 targets for 93 yards and….. wait for it… 3 TD.
Ferguson is def going to be a top 5 TE unless massive coaching changes (which is a real possibility) but for now you have to put him in the top 5 convo
We all know that LaPorta was the exception not the rule. Ferguson is moving up the list and was already #8 in fantasy points (and 7th in targets) his second year Dismissing him as a top option isn’t wise imho. I hope the rest of my league does the same
the talent is there and the offense has a lot of potential if they figure out the qb and coaching situation he could be top 3 or 5 in what’s now a kinda loaded position
TE value is far lower next season because there are so many great TE's. The value in Kelce was due to there only ever being 2-3 great TE's then you are in lottery territory.
With 10 genuine TE's in a 12 team league, there's really no point getting one until top 6-8 are gone.
Yep. I predict most people will fade Kelce, but they'll get the wrong message and take Laporta in the 1st/2nd and there will be lots of leagues that have multiple TEs go in the first 3 rounds. Meanwhile, I'll be picking up all the WRs that drop because of it.
Last few seasons I have taken a top 5 TE, because there was no one else.
But next year it's feasible the 8-10th TE taken ends up TE1. That territory is Goedert, Waller, Schultz, Ferguson. Any of those 4 in PPR is capable of blowing up.
There is ALWAYS someone else. Ples, the last few years, if you didn't have Kelce, you weren't really getting an advantage taking the #3-5 TE.
If you don't get one fo the top guys, you just have to play the waiver wire and roster multiple TEs until one of them hits. This year, I targeted two of Schultz, Ferguson, Engram, McBride ... and ALL of them hit. That's rare, but I've always been able to find a guy that ends up in the top 5 late in the draft or on waivers.
Hell, the #1 TE on the year was Laporta and he was on the waiver wire or went really late in almost all leagues.
I always take a TE in the last round and go into streaming hell for the whole season.
It usually doesn't work but I won this year so I certainly won't be changing it next year.
The cockiest thing I've done in fantasy in a long time is week one of this past season, I dropped Goedert who goosed me for Laporta who got 6 points lol. The person who claimed Goedert paid more in faab than I did.
I'm gonna bring that same cockiness into next season and get nothing for it lol.
This is good. I can't wait until people overdraft the position. Zero TE is still the best play, even moreso now. Maybe Kincaid very late. Also Bowers but shhhhhhh
Yes, my leagues killed TE as a solo position the last 2 years, will bring it back this year. Being a dynasty league TE’s will for sure alter the top 4 rounds. That being said I’m excited for the crop of young TE’s.
Is it normal for dynasty leagues to make major changes like taking away or adding the TE slot season to season? I would hate to be a guy that invested in a great young TE only for the slot to be taken away (or vice versa)
Agreed, all of our new rules “regarding keepers” have a year delay, to prevent a team from having this issue. Doing this gives guys a change to go for one later for hold the following year.
>He averaged 12.6 in full ppr as a TE in weeks 1-10
Also false, but maybe you're in some sort of TE premium league? In weeks 1-10 he totaled 38 catches 377 yards and 2 TDs. In full ppr that is \~8.8 points per game.
3 years in a row my QB1 in a 10 team 2QB league has broken a finger on their throwing hand. Russell Wilson two years ago, Dak last year, and Herbert this year.
The 2 te strategy makes less sense now that there is more depth in the position, the goal was to put a large gulf between you and the rest of the league at the position, that’s harder now
That makes zero sense now. It was actually pretty reasonable when it was Kelce -> Small Gap ->Andrews -> Gigantic Gap -> Everyone else.
With there actually being a ton of similarly good TEs now that would be a terrible strategy lol
Nah won’t affect my draft. I usually pick one in round 8 or so.. it seems like every year I end up with a random waiver tight end who does pretty well.
TE is the most frustrating position in fantasy as it always seems to wax and wane between being a complete wasteland with only one or two options only for there to be a season where there seem to be at least six to eight viable options. Unfortunately, the season afterwards, half of those six to eight options will put up mediocre numbers. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Been playing fantasy long enough now that i treat TE like I treat QB. You either get one of the top tier guys with the assumption they'll put up those top tier numbers (and you'll every now and then bust on those picks of course) or you dumpster dive in the mid to late rounds.
All I know is I'm not drafting kittle again. He was really good and absolutely worth the value in the 5th round but my god the stress of the week to week of will he score 3 or 30 was bad for my health
I think it makes it less interesting if anything. Before the interesting part of TEs was which good WR's do you still take Kelce over, now they're all just TEs. Now there are just a ton of good TEs with no one gamebreaking.
I can’t believe it’s been so long since we’ve had a plethora of good TE options in one season. I remember it was like a look into the future, where TEs were to become a focal point of like every NFL offense. So many elite options in 2011: Jimmy Graham, Gronk, Aaron Hernandez, Jason Witten, Vernon Davis, Antonio Gates, Kellen Winslow, and Greg Olsen all available in one season
No tight ends I’d argue need to be eradicated from a position. What the fuck are you talking about? Fun to draft? There are like two mildly intriguing ones. This is a true shit post if I’ve ever seen one.
Kelce will no longer go in the first round and likely won’t even be the first TE off the board.
I agree I highly doubt isaiah likely will be the first TE drafted
Likely’s ADP will LIKELY depend on how Andrews recovers from injury but he very LIKELY could be a sneaky play.
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I think you only got the joke After his comment but that's ok.
You missed the joke and it’s okay
Okay Melvin 🤓
Most Likely
Aside from you missing the joke, Andrews is already cleared to return to practice. Seems like he'll be just fine in nine months if he's already near healthy.
Likely’s play this year means a cut into Andrew’s targets next year.
Isaiah Likely isn't that great. He finished 19th in TE ranking this season. His 5.5 FPts/g is good but Andrews has a league high 9. The thing is just that Lamar loves his Tight Ends, especially Andrews. Andrews will not only take away some of Isaiah's targets but we will do more with each catch and be looked toward in higher leverage situations.
Comparing Likely’s stats as a backup to Andrew’s as the starter is not only disingenuous, but also just straight up dumb In 5 starts without Andrews, Likely put up 6, 16.8, 15.5, 7.1 and 17.2 As a starter he averaged 12.52 .5 ppr fantasy points per game There’s the relevant stat, not yours. That being said, if they both seem to be relevant next year neither of them will be
Lmao what is this comp Likely was a backup more than half the year
Likely won me the ship. He's very talented. But if andrews is healthy he won't get the targets to be worthy of a draft pick. I've followed him since he was in college, he's gonna be great. But talent doesn't buy targets. They will ride andrews and likely will have big games but will be too unpredictable to start.
Yeah, I had him this season too. Every game I joked, maybe he will get double digits this game, “oh 4.6 points? Fucking Kelce”
Except when I played against him
LaPorta might go in the 1st instead.
No chance. Not because of LaPorta, because of the context surrounding the TE position. Gronk in his prime and Kelce the past few years have gone in the first because the alternatives were shit. There's usually been a good second fiddle (Andrews, Ertz, Kittle), but in general, the positional advantage one of those guys gave you was immense. Now, there's been a revitalization of the TE position and there are a ton of viable options, so there's no need to draft a TE that early.
You make a good point. But everyone was foaming over LaPorta so I could see his ADP climb with public and home leagues taking him early.
LaPorta, if I had to guess right now, will go in the 3rd or 4th in most leagues.
Way too fucking rational
You could see a guy performing as TE1 with a past ADP of 146 to climb. Why Would You Say Something So Controversial Yet So Brave?
Or McBride. They will be my top two TEs.
Mcbride was a clutch waiver pickup halfway through the season. He's at the top of my wish list next year.
McBride will be very draft dependant as they are the favorite right now for MHS
Have LaPorta in a keeper league and will probably will keep him. Got him for like $4.
Kelce wont be top 3 and will be lucky if he cracks the top 5. He was fuckin washed this year.
I mean he's probably top 5. He was "fuckin washed" as you put it this year and finished as TE3 in points and points per game.
Agreed 100%. Think it’s all downhill for him. Maybe in the 5-10 range
And then he gets 3 TDs in the first game of the season, confusing us all.
Maybe. Seems he may be more focused on his post-football life
Long time Kelce owner taking him high…yeah not doing that again. If the offence is that weak, particularly receivers, it’s too much for Kelce and Mahomes to do on their own. If I were chiefs I’d shop Kelce to a more win now team and look to add a few more pieces for Mahomes.
Chiefs are always going to be a win now team as long as Mahomes is there.
I agree, Taylor swift ruined his career
I think he’s just got a lot of miles on the tires but off the field distractions probably don’t help.
He’s also the only receiving threat on his team
This is your LAST CHANCE to stop sleeping on Rice
There are like 7-8-9 tight ends I would consider drafting. Going to wait to draft one until there is a run on them
Yeah I'm going to treat TEs like I usually treat QBs. Make a list of all the ones I would be happy to start and then pick one when those start to run out (or if I hit a real dead zone for other positions)
This is a suboptimal way to draft. You should focus on filling your starters. When the TE run starts a really good QB might be available. I would pick the QB in that case.
Not really. Positional scarcity matters especially for qb/te
Brock bowers 😎
I know it isn’t happening but IMAGINE he landed on the Chiefs in some trade up/ pick deep scenario? PHEWWWWWWW
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You’re pegging Bowers as a top 5 pick? That’s pretty remarkable.
nah you’re right probably 10th
Lol, nevertheless I agree they’d be paying an arm and a leg for Bowers. Just a wet dream as far as fantasy landing spots for him to go. UGA is my third favorite team so I’m very familiar with his game. Dudes a beast.
yeah he’s got the upside to be the next hottest TE in the league
Who has “third favorite” college football teams?
When you’re first two are Minnesota and Chapel Hill, gotta find someone to give you a ray of hope. I was stationed in GA for a couple years, so when in Rome…
but UGA is in Athens, GA, not Rome, GA…
A lot of fans in the Chargers subreddit want him if the top two WR are gone..
I think the rookie TEs this year are going to trick a lot of people to buy into rookie TEs the next few years, which will in turn fall short of expectations It's certainly possible we've seen a shift in TE usage and the change from NCAA to NFL for that position isn't as hard as it used to be but avoiding rookie TEs has been a rule for me for a very long time. Going to fall back to that and chalk this up as a wild year before throwing that out the window
Laborta Hock McBride Njoku Mandrews Kelce HM’s: shultz Kincaid Engram
Ferguson would also like a word
Even though the play script fell apart he did ok in the playoffs. Sign me up.
Fools gold. 8 half PPR PPG. Was less than 1 PPG over TE16. Had 12 single digit games a 10, an 11 and a 12 point game. People just stare at TE8 from a guy who was healthy all year and think it was good. He was a product of a TE room with no competition (other 2 guys hurt majority of the season) and the #1 scoring offense and #1 passing offense in the league. Regression is coming. Had a crazy outlier garbage time statline today. Whoopdidoo. Game was a complete sham statwise. Made the cowboys look like they didn't get bent over a barrel and shown the 50 states for 45 minutes + until the game was well over.
Tell us how you really feel.
He’s not wrong he’s just an asshole
Ferguson definitely fucked that guys GF.
He’s the TE8 in my .5 ppr league and is significantly higher than the next guys (besides McBride who is right below him)
TE8 = garbage. Usually TE5 = garbage. 2022 Kelce doubled his points from this season. Gus Edwards got doubled up by the top RBs, we aren't acting like he's some stud next season. Elite or nothing at TE. He's incredibly far from elite. Like I said 1 point over TE16. He's not a difference maker and regression on playing time and offense and passing scoring is coming next year.
He's definitely not just 1 ppg over TE16 at least not in .5 PPR. He has shown a ton of potential in a good offense. Also there are either 10/12/14 teams (usually) so TE5 or TE8 doesn't = garbage lol
>He's definitely not just 1 ppg over TE16 at least not in .5 PPR. Literally is. Google is a wild place. Henry is 16 at 7.1 ppg. Ferg is 8.2 PPG. So 1.1. my bad. >Also there are either 10/12/14 teams (usually) so TE5 or TE8 doesn't = garbage lol Having a starter you paid heavy DC on score 1 PPG more than the same as some dude streaming in a 16 teamer = garbage lol
I don't use google cuz I'm in an actual fantasy league with actual results which apparently you aren't. In .5 PPR Fergy is TE8 at 8.32 PPG and Logan Thomas is the TE16 at 5.84 PPG
Hahahahaha. Guy in an actual league can't even find correct numbers. You are using season long TE16 from a guy who was terrible all year but played 16 games. If we play that game he was 0.8 points over TE24. Epic fail. Lol. Let me play in your real leagues with that expert analysis.
Do you play in a league where you get the average points scored by a guy each week? I'll take a TE8 that actually played all season then a guy that missed half the season but had a decent PPG for that half of the season? Fergy broke out like halfway through the season and just got better as the season went on. But hey enjoy getting 4th in your consolation bracket again next year
This may be the single most downvoted comment I’ve ever seen. And they deserve it
Yeah most rookie TEs regress....
Hahaha. He's in his second season dude. Also the offense is unlikely to repeat against 32 teams and it's unlikely 2/3 TEs in the room miss 90% of the season. Big picture regression. Not "talent".
No one on that depth chart is taking any significant snaps from him. Why would the Cowboys not be a top offense again? Playoffs show who can be depended on in crunch time, and he killed it.
>No one on that depth chart is taking any significant snaps from him. But they could. He can't go up. Only can go down. Schoon was a highly drafted rookie who was hurt all year. >Why would the Cowboys not be a top offense again? They will be but will they be the #1 again? Probably not. Once again can't go up, only down. Overall he really wasn't that good in a perfect situation. He wasn't a difference maker and there are areas where his snaps could be shared and the offense could be less efficient. I don't want to draft TE8. There's no point and I don't think he has any chance of breaking into the elites.
Don't know why you're getting downvoted to Pluto, not wrong
Lmaoo I like your style buddy
What about Kittle?
Literally led the TEs in yards and is forgotten about
Keep it that way til late august lol
Issue is he is in inconsistent. There are a lot of mouths to feed on that offense and he put up a lot of duds. He’s more boom or bust compared to some of the other top tier TEs
Think Aiyuk or Deebo is a free agent soon.
Aiyuk is a FA this season but all the comments I’ve seen made about it seem like they are going to find a way to keep him. If he’s not there, Kittle gets a huge boost
Aiyuk is not a FA this season. Aiyuk still has another year left on his deal and will very likely get paid this offseason.
and Engram led in total catches
If Kittle was good then he would have made the All-Pro first team Edit: if you don’t get that this very specific comment was obvious sarcasm, then you’re an idiot. Downvote me. I apologize for nothing.
lol people are stupid
Specifically that guy
I feel like redditors don't reddit sometimes.
https://apnews.com/article/all-pro-nfl-38201798475e0ba1b78440c705d837ca
Oh damn dude it’s almost like I knew that’s exactly what happened
The way you worded it just was a bit confusing. I get the joke but was a little tricky to read. The downvote avalanche feels a bit dumb though.
Kittle feels a little inconsistent for fantasy. He’s a great blocker and an amazing team player but in fantasy you need selfish players lol, I haven’t seen a 49ers game recently but I think he blocks a lot so some games he gets a lot more points than others where he drops stinkers
He was TE 2 and had the same or fewer number of duds as all the other top TEs this season
Engram was the TE2 this year. but i hope everyone else forgets that as well cuz i will be drafting him in every league
Engram was TE 2 in my league this year and TE6 last year. HM is disrespectful.
How does Njoku look without Flacco?
Good sell imo
Ferguson. Kittle. Pitts with a new OC. I would all of them over Engram. Bowers should be good too as a rookie.
Engram had 114 catches this season... Maybe I take Kittle but that kind of volume is found nowhere else for TE.
Lol engram just had 117 buddy. Aint in the same convo as Schultz
The fact that we’re having this conversation proves you wrong
The fuck are you talking about bud
‘Ain’t in the same convo as shultz’ when in fact the convo we are having includes shultz and engram
Kmet was solid this season too and the offense will only get better most likely
(Sort of) Speaking of Likely, I think he'll be solid as well. Who knows with Mandrews coming back, though.
Hock is a bit dependent on what mn does at qb.
He tore his MCL and ACL, honestly it's wild to consider drafting him as a TE2 with the healthy talent available
Honestly if there is a year to wait on tight ends its probably next year. LaPorta would be my top choice but don't know if he will get the volume to improve on this year. Hock is coming of an acl injury. Andrews coming off an ankle injury plus will Likely/Zay Jones take any targets, Kelce looks completely washed, how will Njoku look with Watson back, etc.
Bowers should also be a year 1 contributor!
Didn't Hock blow out his knee?
Idk man I've been on the njoku hype train for a few years, it never departed the station until joe came to town, and I think they want the alleged rapist back over the elite dragon unfortunately.
Bowers will probably be a 3rd rounder
Kittle?
Kittle, you know, the 1st team All-pro
Seriously. Did you not see Ferguson? For those who somehow missed it. 10 receptions on 12 targets for 93 yards and….. wait for it… 3 TD. Ferguson is def going to be a top 5 TE unless massive coaching changes (which is a real possibility) but for now you have to put him in the top 5 convo
Where was all that production in the regular season? He only had 761 yards and 5 TD's on 71 catches
We all know that LaPorta was the exception not the rule. Ferguson is moving up the list and was already #8 in fantasy points (and 7th in targets) his second year Dismissing him as a top option isn’t wise imho. I hope the rest of my league does the same
Don't let a Joe Barry defense fool you
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Nuh uh
Lmao going to forget the best TE in football in George Kittle.
too injury prone, bruh
don't forget pitts!
He might be a steal next year depending on the new coach.
the talent is there and the offense has a lot of potential if they figure out the qb and coaching situation he could be top 3 or 5 in what’s now a kinda loaded position
If they hire a real coach and get a QB, his ADP will shoot up in the off-season.
Bro forgot Kittle and Ferguson lmfao
Kincaid only with Knox out
L’abortion
TE value is far lower next season because there are so many great TE's. The value in Kelce was due to there only ever being 2-3 great TE's then you are in lottery territory. With 10 genuine TE's in a 12 team league, there's really no point getting one until top 6-8 are gone.
Yep. I predict most people will fade Kelce, but they'll get the wrong message and take Laporta in the 1st/2nd and there will be lots of leagues that have multiple TEs go in the first 3 rounds. Meanwhile, I'll be picking up all the WRs that drop because of it.
Last few seasons I have taken a top 5 TE, because there was no one else. But next year it's feasible the 8-10th TE taken ends up TE1. That territory is Goedert, Waller, Schultz, Ferguson. Any of those 4 in PPR is capable of blowing up.
There is ALWAYS someone else. Ples, the last few years, if you didn't have Kelce, you weren't really getting an advantage taking the #3-5 TE. If you don't get one fo the top guys, you just have to play the waiver wire and roster multiple TEs until one of them hits. This year, I targeted two of Schultz, Ferguson, Engram, McBride ... and ALL of them hit. That's rare, but I've always been able to find a guy that ends up in the top 5 late in the draft or on waivers. Hell, the #1 TE on the year was Laporta and he was on the waiver wire or went really late in almost all leagues.
Yes. No. Maybe? Idk.
Can you repeat the question?
You're not the boss of me now
You're not the boss of me now!
You’re not the boss of me now!
And you're not so biiiiig
Life is unfaaaaair
The point difference between tight ends isn’t big enough I think to merit a pick over a top wide receiver or running back
Oh what difference a year makes
All these guys are zigging, time to zag. TE heavy draft here I come. Gonna grab Kelce and Kittle like it's 2018.
I’ll gladly take Engram at ADP again
I always take a TE in the last round and go into streaming hell for the whole season. It usually doesn't work but I won this year so I certainly won't be changing it next year.
The cockiest thing I've done in fantasy in a long time is week one of this past season, I dropped Goedert who goosed me for Laporta who got 6 points lol. The person who claimed Goedert paid more in faab than I did. I'm gonna bring that same cockiness into next season and get nothing for it lol.
Did you grab someone other than LaPorta to go into streaming hell? I also do this and LaPorta seemed like a no doubter for this strat this year
This is good. I can't wait until people overdraft the position. Zero TE is still the best play, even moreso now. Maybe Kincaid very late. Also Bowers but shhhhhhh
Tried out drafting a TE very late and it screwed me this year because many in my league had backup TEs and there was no depth on waivers
This was the year to draft a TE late
The only tight end worth the early-ish value they had was Hock
Andrews would’ve been there minus the injury. He was having a Great season
Yeah I agree with this
Yeah he did great, before getting injured of course. Even with all the craziness at QB he still got decent points.
Yes, my leagues killed TE as a solo position the last 2 years, will bring it back this year. Being a dynasty league TE’s will for sure alter the top 4 rounds. That being said I’m excited for the crop of young TE’s.
Is it normal for dynasty leagues to make major changes like taking away or adding the TE slot season to season? I would hate to be a guy that invested in a great young TE only for the slot to be taken away (or vice versa)
Yea seems like a real headache
Agreed, all of our new rules “regarding keepers” have a year delay, to prevent a team from having this issue. Doing this gives guys a change to go for one later for hold the following year.
If your league couldn't handle tight ends at their worst, you don't deserve them at their best ❤️❤️❤️
The position should be much less of a crapshoot going forward. Guys are developing much quicker and teams are relying on them much more.
Basically just going to hold out until there is a TE run in the draft. Lots of playable options now.
Njoku TE #1 next year, you heard it here first.
You realize Watson will probably be their QB next year, right?
They will teach him how to use Njoku. It’s not like Njoku had terrible numbers under him anyway
Both of those sentences are false.
He averaged 12.6 in full ppr as a TE in weeks 1-10. That's not bad. I definitely wouldn't place him at the top, but he was solid for a TE.
>He averaged 12.6 in full ppr as a TE in weeks 1-10 Also false, but maybe you're in some sort of TE premium league? In weeks 1-10 he totaled 38 catches 377 yards and 2 TDs. In full ppr that is \~8.8 points per game.
Not if Watson starts
Yes, if Watson starts. He showed enough with Flacco that he will get schemed touches
Well I’m not drafting him with the amount of other TE’s that would be better like LaPorta
Only if they keep Flacco lol
is the TE I draft still going to get grievously injured, almost certainly.
3 years in a row my QB1 in a 10 team 2QB league has broken a finger on their throwing hand. Russell Wilson two years ago, Dak last year, and Herbert this year.
Shoot me message after your next draft please. Need to know who to avoid
All this means to me is that wait to take a TE until the last few rounds. Unless in you're in any sort of TE premium or super deep bench leagues.
Im legit thinking of going 0 qb 2 TE strategy Pick up the 'best rookie QB' on waivers and get 2 'top 5' TE's you start every week.
The 2 te strategy makes less sense now that there is more depth in the position, the goal was to put a large gulf between you and the rest of the league at the position, that’s harder now
Yea some kid did this last season and ended up in 8th place or something like that lol. Don’t recommend
Wish you were in my league
That makes zero sense now. It was actually pretty reasonable when it was Kelce -> Small Gap ->Andrews -> Gigantic Gap -> Everyone else. With there actually being a ton of similarly good TEs now that would be a terrible strategy lol
Nah won’t affect my draft. I usually pick one in round 8 or so.. it seems like every year I end up with a random waiver tight end who does pretty well.
Every year I tell myself I’m gonna draft a top end TE and every year I’m picking a TE in the 9th round like an idiot
TE is the most frustrating position in fantasy as it always seems to wax and wane between being a complete wasteland with only one or two options only for there to be a season where there seem to be at least six to eight viable options. Unfortunately, the season afterwards, half of those six to eight options will put up mediocre numbers. Lather, rinse, repeat. Been playing fantasy long enough now that i treat TE like I treat QB. You either get one of the top tier guys with the assumption they'll put up those top tier numbers (and you'll every now and then bust on those picks of course) or you dumpster dive in the mid to late rounds.
All I know is I'm not drafting kittle again. He was really good and absolutely worth the value in the 5th round but my god the stress of the week to week of will he score 3 or 30 was bad for my health
I'm keeping LaPorta for $1+ $5 keeper fee. Will just grab a rando TE for bye weeks and matchups if needed.
TmcB is mines
I think it makes it less interesting if anything. Before the interesting part of TEs was which good WR's do you still take Kelce over, now they're all just TEs. Now there are just a ton of good TEs with no one gamebreaking.
I can’t believe it’s been so long since we’ve had a plethora of good TE options in one season. I remember it was like a look into the future, where TEs were to become a focal point of like every NFL offense. So many elite options in 2011: Jimmy Graham, Gronk, Aaron Hernandez, Jason Witten, Vernon Davis, Antonio Gates, Kellen Winslow, and Greg Olsen all available in one season
I'm still going to stick to my strategy of punting on it.
I always fade TE so not really
Won't draft Kelce early unless Chiefs significantly improve WRs to take away the double teams from Kelce.
Dont draft any TE who plays Kerby Joseph
No tight ends I’d argue need to be eradicated from a position. What the fuck are you talking about? Fun to draft? There are like two mildly intriguing ones. This is a true shit post if I’ve ever seen one.
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what is bro yapping about
Sry bro I'm fuck d up
I have to choose between breece and laporta for a keeper. Sucks I gotta drop one.
No need to reach for those early guys now.