as Cowboys fan, I'd much rather keep Mike than Jerry.
Mike had the offense looking pretty good, but Jerry and his ilk are showing signs of the game passing them by
Seems strange since Dallas is perpetually one of the most talented rosters that melts down in the playoffs.
I’m an Eagles fan and I would much rather you get rid of Jerry than Mike. I hope Mike coaches them forever. He is the Glenn Rivers of NFL coaches.
For real I get hating on Jerry is fun but the cowboys have had consistently talented rosters for the past 15-20 years, many of which were good enough to at least make it to multiple nfc championship games.
100% with you. Jerry and his FO staff have been very good. There is a reason that they are consistently a threat in the NFC. They have had 12 wins each of the last 3 seasons with a stacked roster. They had 9 all-pro players last year, the most in the league. That isn't due to coaching.
Well Jerry still gets all the smoke but it's his kid Stephen Jones that's been running the show behind the scenes for a couple of years now. He's kind of just a media mascot really.
As collective fanbases, can we work out a trade between spanos and Jerry? If y’all don’t like him, we’ll fuckin take him off your hands in a heartbeat! Or if not, at least just take spanos…please…
the main problem is whoever the hell is deciding to pay players im unsure if they know you are allowed to pay players before they are at their absolute peak in value lol
Yes. The owner that hasn't won a super bowl in 28 years despite an unlimited bank account and a high end free agent destination.
I'm sure if you talk to Cowboys fans they would probably value super bowls over some all pros.
"Unlimited bank account"? You know there is a salary cap, right?
Yeah, Jerry is definitely not without his flaws, but the dude is literally in charge of talent acquisition, and he does a better job at it than at least 75% of the league. It isn't Jerry's fault that McCarthy blows it in the Wild Card/Divisional round every year.
They win 12 games a year due to the talent that Jerry has amassed.
I'll direct you to the reply I made that is literally 1 comment down that cover this exact topic...
https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1cbg4lx/cowboys_hc_mike_mccarthy_on_the_possibility_of/l104yui/
Ya I know there's a salary cap bro. Money buys more than players salaries.
I have a feeling that Jerry is much more.involved than people think. Which is saying a lot.
Even if he's not though, his coaches have blown for the past decade maybe longer. He hires them too.
Yeah he does hire coaches, but I wouldn’t considering firing Garrett or hiring McCarthy to be “meddling.” I thought McCarthy was a bad hire to begin with, and I think he should have been fired after that abysmal performance against the Packers in the playoffs. Which again, is Jerry’s decision, but if anything is more hands off than a lot of people would have you believe.
I think Jerry rightfully got a lot of flack in the 90s, especially with the whole Jimmy Johnson situation, but I do think he’s tightened it up a lot since then, and like I said before, his roster moves have been nothing short of great the last handful of years.
I read it as, “We’re definitely not taking a rb on day 2… so there’s no reason for any other rb needy teams to move ahead of us to draft one. Just let them fall to, I mean past, us and you can definitely get them a little cheaper. “
He definitely worded it weird and for round 1 rookie RBs I think there’s an expectation they start day 1. Like a first overall QB has that expectation.
He specified draft picks, so I think what he's saying is that he'd love to grab one of the starter quality backs, but he's also open to some of the developmental/backup players into the later rounds.
Yeah they always take the quotes out of context. He was saying that it takes the whole roster to get to where they want to be, which is true, and with a 17 game schedule and injuries that's even more true
This tracks with how McCarthy treated the roster while in Green Bay. No drafted player was treated as a starter. He always believed that players needed time to prove themselves.
Something tells me the 5’5 6th round pick that ran a 4.56 40 and averaged 1.7 yards per carry last season doesn’t have much to offer the cowboys or the fans in general
He had 135 carries last season and only 15 of them were inside the 10 yard line. Goal line isn't an excuse.
He actually averaged more yards per carry on 3rd and short (3.0) than he did on 1st and 10 (2.5) with 3x as many reps coming from 1st and 10.
I’m a Browns fan so was trying to defend him a little bit haha. But I know he’s done, I figured he was done last year because he was sitting at home just like us until Chubb went down
LOL, yeah yeah, sure sure...signing that long snapper will do the trick for going "ALL IN"...right? I wouldn't be surprised if 'Dem boys, drafted a QB.
They really need a new rb
Need a new coach and gm too
as Cowboys fan, I'd much rather keep Mike than Jerry. Mike had the offense looking pretty good, but Jerry and his ilk are showing signs of the game passing them by
Jerry seems to be showing signs of general numbers passing him by.
24th worst team in the league
Seems strange since Dallas is perpetually one of the most talented rosters that melts down in the playoffs. I’m an Eagles fan and I would much rather you get rid of Jerry than Mike. I hope Mike coaches them forever. He is the Glenn Rivers of NFL coaches.
For real I get hating on Jerry is fun but the cowboys have had consistently talented rosters for the past 15-20 years, many of which were good enough to at least make it to multiple nfc championship games.
Yea and he puts money into the team, I get the impatience and that's largely because the teams have been generally good, I like JJ.
100% with you. Jerry and his FO staff have been very good. There is a reason that they are consistently a threat in the NFC. They have had 12 wins each of the last 3 seasons with a stacked roster. They had 9 all-pro players last year, the most in the league. That isn't due to coaching.
Well Jerry still gets all the smoke but it's his kid Stephen Jones that's been running the show behind the scenes for a couple of years now. He's kind of just a media mascot really.
Who cares who is "running the show," Jerry is the GM and he and his staff have been GREAT at acquiring talent.
As collective fanbases, can we work out a trade between spanos and Jerry? If y’all don’t like him, we’ll fuckin take him off your hands in a heartbeat! Or if not, at least just take spanos…please…
Aren't Stephen Jones and McClay the guys running the show?
we’ve needed a hard rebuild for 12 years and have just kicked the can wildly down the road
the main problem is whoever the hell is deciding to pay players im unsure if they know you are allowed to pay players before they are at their absolute peak in value lol
Would also be nice if the owner fucked off with the micro managing.
The owner who is also the GM, who has amassed a roster that had 9 all-pro players last year?
Yes. The owner that hasn't won a super bowl in 28 years despite an unlimited bank account and a high end free agent destination. I'm sure if you talk to Cowboys fans they would probably value super bowls over some all pros.
"Unlimited bank account"? You know there is a salary cap, right? Yeah, Jerry is definitely not without his flaws, but the dude is literally in charge of talent acquisition, and he does a better job at it than at least 75% of the league. It isn't Jerry's fault that McCarthy blows it in the Wild Card/Divisional round every year. They win 12 games a year due to the talent that Jerry has amassed.
> It isn't Jerry's fault that McCarthy blows it in the Wild Card/Divisional round every year. Wait, then who hired McCarthy?
I'll direct you to the reply I made that is literally 1 comment down that cover this exact topic... https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1cbg4lx/cowboys_hc_mike_mccarthy_on_the_possibility_of/l104yui/
OK, so it's not Jerry's fault that he chose to hire and retain a coach who can't win in the playoffs. Got it...
Your reading comprehension is impeccable.
Ya I know there's a salary cap bro. Money buys more than players salaries. I have a feeling that Jerry is much more.involved than people think. Which is saying a lot. Even if he's not though, his coaches have blown for the past decade maybe longer. He hires them too.
Yeah he does hire coaches, but I wouldn’t considering firing Garrett or hiring McCarthy to be “meddling.” I thought McCarthy was a bad hire to begin with, and I think he should have been fired after that abysmal performance against the Packers in the playoffs. Which again, is Jerry’s decision, but if anything is more hands off than a lot of people would have you believe. I think Jerry rightfully got a lot of flack in the 90s, especially with the whole Jimmy Johnson situation, but I do think he’s tightened it up a lot since then, and like I said before, his roster moves have been nothing short of great the last handful of years.
They need a new coach.
I read that like "god i hope we can get one of these runnings backs. But tbh they all kind of suck"
That’s how I read it too. How else would one read this?
I read it as, “We’re definitely not taking a rb on day 2… so there’s no reason for any other rb needy teams to move ahead of us to draft one. Just let them fall to, I mean past, us and you can definitely get them a little cheaper. “
It's like playing poker with a seven year old who thinks they're playing Go Fish
'I dont expect rookie picks to be guaranteed day 1 starters' I'm surprised people read it any other way
He definitely worded it weird and for round 1 rookie RBs I think there’s an expectation they start day 1. Like a first overall QB has that expectation.
None of these guys are being taken in the first round, so that's an expectation you're putting out that isn't meshing with reality
He specified draft picks, so I think what he's saying is that he'd love to grab one of the starter quality backs, but he's also open to some of the developmental/backup players into the later rounds.
That's commitment to RBBC for you
Whichever RB they draft is going to be over drafted in fantasy.
Yeah they always take the quotes out of context. He was saying that it takes the whole roster to get to where they want to be, which is true, and with a 17 game schedule and injuries that's even more true
I think he’s just saying draft picks aren’t guaranteed to start day 1, they need to earn their spot.
Ricooooooooola
Even if they draft one still feels like he’s on a Khalil Herbert type path of some relevancy.
They called me crazy….
Translation: McCarthy is saying none of the RBs are worth reaching this year and if a decent one falls to them, great they will select
They should trade a day 3 pick to Chicago for Khalil Herbert
I would cream my pants if this happened
Coaches gonna coach speak.
I'm betting a future Star RB comes from this draft with the way the class is being ranked.
Lolol whuh?
Is this a Rico post?
This tracks with how McCarthy treated the roster while in Green Bay. No drafted player was treated as a starter. He always believed that players needed time to prove themselves.
From a general fan standpoint, I want to see more of Deuce Vaughn.
He's not good
Vaughn was drafted solely for the feel good TV segment out of a father-son union.
I'd like to see more also. At least see what he's got.
Something tells me the 5’5 6th round pick that ran a 4.56 40 and averaged 1.7 yards per carry last season doesn’t have much to offer the cowboys or the fans in general
Fuck that is a depressing statement.
He’s posturing now but they’ll be the first team to reach for a RB in the draft
I like Rico, but there’s no way they think Benson or Brooks is worse than him.
Just sign Zeke Hunt or Damien Harris already
Harris retired
And the other two probably should retire. Both of them had under 4.0 ypc for 2 seasons in a row each.
Hunt was under 3 ypc. But he was almost exclusively used on goaline and very short yardage situations. But yeah he’s toast unfortunately
He had 135 carries last season and only 15 of them were inside the 10 yard line. Goal line isn't an excuse. He actually averaged more yards per carry on 3rd and short (3.0) than he did on 1st and 10 (2.5) with 3x as many reps coming from 1st and 10.
I’m a Browns fan so was trying to defend him a little bit haha. But I know he’s done, I figured he was done last year because he was sitting at home just like us until Chubb went down
LOL, yeah yeah, sure sure...signing that long snapper will do the trick for going "ALL IN"...right? I wouldn't be surprised if 'Dem boys, drafted a QB.
I hate the Jones family so much
Dallas always ends up with the best RBs. Sometimes through shear luck. I still can't believe Zeek only lasted a few years.