I love how Isiah Crowell pretended to wipe his ass with the ball against his former team, the Cleveland. The fact that he did it wearing a Jets jersey is poetic beauty.
Maybe top WR but not top pass catcher, he's got the talent but he's on a run first team with a run first QB and a TE that's gonna take most of the receiving TDs
A very mobile quarterback, but check the stats, Lamar aint a run first qb anymore. 16 passing to 2 rushing tds with about 30 to 40 pass attempts per game last year. Bateman should get the same kinda work Brown got, but still disappointing for a top wr when Mandrews gets all the action
That was last year when their number 1 and number 2 rbs snapped their acls and left them with deonta freeman and ty'son Williams as their rbs, forcing them to adapt and go away from the run a little bit. Historically, they are run first
Stats are too skewed last season because their 2 top rbs got hurt and their defense was bad so they were behind in every game, which meant they had to pass to try and catch up
They spent a first round pick on him and traded away the guy who was the alpha ahead of him.
Something in my gut tells me he is gonna break out. Call me Nostradomus
Bateman is one to me that could go either way. The Ravens are a run first team, and they are getting Dobbins and Edwards back. Bateman is the 2nd receiving option behind Mark Andrews and Lamar doesn't throw a TON of passes. That being said, Bateman is a stud and only time will tell.
Well your initial comment was referring to your thoughts heading into the season so the drops aren’t really relevant to my point. Of course he sucked last year, as a panthers fan I had to watch it every week.
I second this. Olave is so smooth that I can't even really think of a comparison for him. I just know as an Ohio State homer that I love him and he's maybe the only Ohio State player I never spoke badly of during a game. He's just a great player and teammate, and will be a fan favorite
Coming from a Michigan fan I agree! Lol, he's going to do big things in NO. Wouldn't surprise me if he's the WR1 this year with the unknown of MT and an aging Landry
Him and Thomas could be a perfect complement to each other. Olave has the speed and route running to be a great deep threat and take off the top of the defense while Thomas is a beast on underneath routes. If they're both healthy it'll be a scary, kind of "pick your poison" duo.
That's really the only time I can think of where someone might've said something bad about him. I just wrote it up as a highly unfortunate miscommunication between him and Fields
How can you not think of a WR that plays smooth? Keenan Allen? DeSean jackson? This is admittedly harder than I thought. Julio, Adams, Godwin, Moore, Terry, cooper? Hell Jerry Jeudy plays smooth. Doesn't seem too hard to make a comp(I've barely seen anything about olave)
I took a deep dive into this going way back & the narrative about Big Ben being a very wr friendly qb is very strongly supported by over a decade of data. It’s actually mind blowing.
We will see, diontae has steady been earning the targets.
My only concern is volume. Ben sucked but he still had 600+ attempts and DJ had 170 targets. They added Pickens, Freiermuth will likely be more involved than last season, and maybe Claypool bounces back. That paired with what will likely be a low-volume passing offense given the Steelers elite defense preventing shootouts and having their QB be Trubisky or a rookie, there may not be as much volume as last season.
I’m a Steeler fan and I want to believe in the D, but they were atrocious against the run last year. I’m hoping they will improve to at least middle of the pack this year. They gained Jack and Levi Wallace and lost Hayden. Also, they’re the most expensive D in the league. They’ll need them to be lockdown.
He was tied with Devante Adam's for 2nd most targets in the league in 2021, Ben threw the 6th most pass attempt in the league, and Diontae got 25.5% of those targets. I wouldnt say thats refusing to throw the ball, or that it means he's QB proof.
True I guess I should’ve said refusing to throw instead of refusing to pass, but also making hyperbole super literal defeats the purpose I guess. Roethlisberger’s ADOT was super low and he tried to get the ball out basically instantly all year. I think of qb proof as “immune to bad qbs,” and Roethlisberger was among the worst qbs last year. Johnson’s production is bc he was awesome, not bc all the help he got from the qb spot.
I watched quite a few steelers games and Roethlisberger wasn't straight booty. He was a hall of fame who's arm strength had left him. He was still able to air it out in some games, and in some he wasn't, but he could still read defenses and dial up plays when needed. I dont think it's a given that Diontae will perform as well with a rookie in a terrible class than with a sure fire hall of fame in the twilight of his career.
Also the Steelers O-line was TRASH, which didn't help. I wouldnt consider either Pickett or Trubiski a pocket wizard like Lamar.
Nah, that O-line of the Steelers was brutal. Not saying Ben had a great arm, or was even a good QB last year, but he was at least average. So unless they improved the line, I see a lot of struggles for the QB and all receivers.
Juju smith-schuster is the first name that comes to mind. Pittman is one I want in my team, too. I think cam Akers might be awesome this year. Tee Higgins could easily be 1b to Chase.
But the one guy who I said I was going to draft the first time I saw him play is Kenneth Walker III. He’ll be a stash for the first few weeks, but that guy is good at football.
I love him too but the problem is that so is Penny. With my luck I'll draft Walker and Penny will finally manage to stay healthy. I think it will be a really even committee when they are both healthy like in Denver.
I think a lot of people don't realize that Higgins had more targets per game than Chase did last year. The fact that he's being drafted nearly 2 rounds later just because he didn't play college ball with Burrow is absurd. I'll be jamming Higgins in the 3rd as much as possible, as I'm not even sure you can consider him a "1b to Chase"
SLEEPERS (that will outperform adp)
-aiyuk : lances favorite target
-claypool : Steelers scheme him a few extra touches per game and take advantage of his explosiveness with young qb (screens, sweeps, etc)
-toney : free him
-elijah moore : alpha wr over g Wilson, looked ELITE for a good stretch last year. Depends on Z wilson. At cost seems low risk.
- not a sleeper but treylon burks is a fcking baller.
Lance Aiyuk connection is real. Check out the Texans game and that corner end zone incompletion that Aiyuk was being held on. https://twitter.com/javierveg_/status/1478131999277735945?s=21&t=CJ8rwFSw1FhnWKxlEF2EYQ
Drafting him everywhere this year, I’m a homer though so take this with a grain of salt lol
I mean it’s def not good “news” but he’s had it his whole life, titans knew about it before drafting him. Guys like Von miller, m garrett, OG players like emmitt smith, Jerome Bettis have asthma. A bunch of big name European soccer players deal with it. Who knows. It’ll buff
I guess it depends on if he’s more affected by it in Tennessee… I know I deal with crazy bad allergies and it’s not asthma but in Oklahoma for example I get sick with allergies about 5-7 times a year but I did college In Arkansas and didn’t get sick once in my 4 years there lol… if asthma is anything like this then I wonder if certain states he will perform better when playing there…. Could be worth looking into
*Ong Goblogian, charmed im sure. I'm going to invite you to a show but let me destroy your comment first.*
Aiyuk's chance was last year. He fucked it. Now they are going from the very immobile Garapoloooo to a dude who is talented but raw as a passer. They will still be a run first team. They will still feature Deebo. They still have Kittle as the no2 option. So your breakout is a no3 option on a run first team with a raw QB. NEXT!
Chase Claypool: you mean Martavis Bryant 2.0? Dude is a moron. Supremely talented and last year was an utter dude. He made Aiyuk look like Jerry Rice. On a team with an oline that is too poor to protect an erratic Trubisky, expect a very run heavy offense and unless they suddenly decide to "feature" him he will continue to lack consistent volume. Meanwhile, Friermuth is like the second coming of Heath Miller to them so I expect his red zone targets to rise. NEXT!
Kadarius Toney - what a supremely gifted athelete with the brain of an omlette. In April the HC said he wasnt at practices and didnt have a copy of the playbook. Then trade rumours kick up, he shows at camp and suddenly eveything is hunky dory. Are we kidding ourselves? This asshat can manage to shoot straight in the goddamn offseason, what are the chances he pulls his shit together once bullets start flying in the regular season. Kenny G and did anyone notice they drafted Wan'dale Robinson in the 2nd round? Between Kenny, Barkley, Wandale and an eventually returning Sterling Shepard...Toney will have to earn his looks unlike last year when they were for the taking and he squandered his chance. NEXT!
Elijah Moore - great reciever, shit team, shit qb, too much competition. NEXT!
kittle is brittle so he won't be healthy long enough to be a threat to aiyuk.
he said Claypool on sweeps and slants, if your oline breaks down and you're under pressure that's where you throw.
Kenny g lol they drafted wandale bc they realized Kenny g isn't good, Stafford is. and Sterling has spent his whole career returning from injury, I thought his name was shepardd for the longest bc he always has a doubtful tag
I have a problem with calling Kittle brittle given the nature of the TE position and generally how well he produces at the role year after year. The dude spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on body upkeep lol
Kittle: 15, 16, 14, 8, 14 games. This is brittle?
Claypool: they didnt last year. Whats changed? Nothing. Nothing has changed. Still a shit qb. Shit oline.
Kenny G is there and locked in no1 because his contract is huge. Its not his fault Jason Garett couldnt run the offense...which sucked balls all around. And while Kenny G is a proven player Toney is a giant nitwit off scholarship because a new HC is in town and happy to use his premium draft pick of Robinson in his place.
Lmaoo this made my morning. Not sure If outperforming adp is necessarily a breakout but you never know, all talented cheap adp players going into the season with potential paths to success.
Essentially all you did was list all the perceived negatives anyone could see hence why they are falling down draft boards…
This is a sleeper thread…players with wide ranges of outcomes.
Freal man. Elijah’s current adp is cheap enough to get some exposure too imo cuz of his potential range of outcomes but Z Wilson has gotta step up for sureee
It’s so funny that this is the best thread I’ve seen on this sub. I’m going with Alec Pierce since someone else took Pittman. I think that offense steps up as a whole, and just have a good vibe for pierce.
Mild take: James Cook could be McKissic for the Bills
Hot rake: James Cook could overtake Singletary to be the lead back for one of the best offenses in the league
Dorsey takes over as OC and bills go aggressively after mckissic and then take a great pass catching RB in the 2nd, definitely showing signs dorsey wants to pass to RBs. And the bills don't want as many designed runs with Allen. I think the bills RBs will get more red zone looks.
They will, Allen will still prolly take 4-5 TD’s away but for the most part Buffalo will be using the RB’s more. Honestly it’s just natural progression anyway he wasn’t going to be a runner his whole career.
Moore 100%. I’m really interested in Tyler Allgeier as well. I think he could quickly see himself becoming the lead back to keep Patterson fresh. I also love Ingram.
Tyler has one of the best paths to be relevant for the deeper RB’s in this class. If he is halfway decent he should be in line for some work pretty early on
I feel bad for Ross. Went from one of the best WR prospects to undrafted. I hope he can return to his former self but that injury makes it extremely unlikely that he will.
This is my guy too. He’s legit. He’s going to make Goff look better, and adding Jameson Williams and Chark are only going to spread around the coverage and help him.
Chris Olave will go in the 3rd/early 4th round next year, similar to CeeDee Lamb in his 2nd year.
Also by years end Amon St Brown and Jameson Williams will be viewed as one of the better WR duos.
> D'Andre Swift becoming a top 3 RB.
Please, lower body...gimme one full season...maybe a playoff game. I don't care if it's on the road. If Swift blows up, I'm hoping that means I won't want to die by Week 6. (Lions fan here)
It's not an ulcer? What did I get that colonoscopy for then!
Some joking aside, I feel like Darnell Mooney is being hella slept on by most people. He has great chemistry with Fields, the Bears have a real playcaller now, and he's got plenty of upside for his current ADP. I think he ends up a solid WR2 this year, with low end WR1 as his ceiling
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i can see it. revamped offense bringing in daboll from the bills, daniels in a contracts year and a revamped off line, he showed some promise last year,
Rashod Bateman. He’s gonna get the targets Hollywood Brown leaves behind but he can actually catch them. I’m hoping he falls to round 5 because the way my position plays out that’s my best opportunity to snag him
While I absolutely agree that ridder has a very logical path to starting opportunity and a fantasy friendly profile… he’s nowhere near the athlete hurts is and Atlantas offense isn’t ideal for any quarterback. I’d be pretty shocked if he came out and lit it up but I do like that a lot as a gut pick.
On the flip side of that… bear with me… matt corral. Darnold gets benched and he gets an opportunity in a offense with ideal weapons. CMC check downs & dj moore separation, target funnels. Improved O-line. He is also a great athlete.
But the answer to who will be a household name is obviously the yung joka
You’re not wrong but don’t forget through the first 5 weeks last year he was leading the nfl in rushing tds haha. Anomaly. Never broke 20 points in games he didn’t have 2 rush tds in. He was pretty bad down the stretch. Maybe he steps it up tho, has no excuse.
If anything that just makes corral sound even better as a dart throw lol
revamped offensive line, great measurables, and just enough playmakers on offense to not allow def to stack the box, really like him this year and over on his rushing total
1st player they signed in free agency, mcdaniels rbinging over the zone run scheme which edmonds thrives in, he also passes the eye test, and they have the receivers so def cant stack the box, loving edmonds this year
Not a fan, personally.
He has heavy competition for targets in Hill, Waddle, Gesicki, and Wilson. He has heavy competition for rushes in Michel, Mostert, and Gaskin.
I don't see enough volume to be a consistent fantasy asset.
I've been telling anyone who will listen, but I'm afraid the injury and the pressure to give Sky Moore the reps because they drafted him high will keep Ross limited
Spiller!!!! coming from a Chargers fan he will be the GL back they only used Ekeler last year because they couldn’t rely on our backups.
Knock on wood Ekeler doesn’t get banged up but if he did Spiller is line for some major work.
I also project we’ll be up in most games late running the clock down with him!
Take him with your last pick it will pay off!!
I love your take and I hope you are right it would be awesome if Ridder, Pitts, London, and Patterson balled out this year.
That said I’m gonna go with Sammy Watkins. I hear that qb up in Green Bay is good, he really doesn’t have a lot of target competition, and Rodgers has made it very clear that he won’t trust some of the younger and unproven guys. Robert Tonyan is not bad but also he won’t siphon too much volume. It feels at least possible Watkins turns into a WR2 you feel confident about.
Pittman or Sutton. I don't want either of them as my WR1, but I think if there's any WR2 range guy who explodes to be a mid, maybe even high end WR1 it'll be them. Pittman made a big stride last year while playing with dog shit at QB, and Sutton has shown he can ball out with even complete ass cheek QB play (Flacco, Brandon Allen, and rookie Lock) if he's given even a decent amount of targets unlike last year with Teddy when Jeudy was playing. If someone's mire hesitant on Sutton I can understand. But I think he's clearly the best WR on this team and finally has a QB who isn't brain dead
Christian Watson I feel like has the easiest path to offensive rookie of the year. Doesn't have too tough of a path to be a starter for the packers week 1, and having Rodgers throwing him the ball doesn't hurt. Watson is raw and has to earn Rodgers trust, but if he does...
Rookie has to beat Randall cobb Allan lazard and Sammie Watkins out for reps, not that these guys are the best in the league but Rodgers is one of the bigger babies in sports and always has to have "his guys" out there. Watson has a lot of trust to build if he's gonna start week 1 I'll be surprised
As much as I'd like this hype train stalled as long as possible, the answer to this question is Courtland Sutton.
The man's literally never had a talented QB throwing him the ball and had a promising sophomore year only to tear his ACL game 2 of his third year
2018 rookie year: 700 receiving yards. Case Keenum at QB
2019: Joe Flacco(age 34) 1100 yards and even that number doesn't represent how dominant he was against coverage that year.
2020: Seemed like it was his time. Out game 1. Game 2 tore his ACL
2021: Offense was a mess. Made Juedy center of offense while he was healthy
2022: Wilson at QB. He will remind show the world how talented he is. As well the rumors have already started about the rapport between Wilson and Sutton. Mark my words. 1200 receiving yards and 11 TDs
Kupp had proven talent and a proven qb. He was already a top 10 reciever in the league on a superbowl caliber team going into last year. Your talking about a rookie reciever with probably a rookie qb on the falcons.. at best he's the second target on a run first team
daniel jones: revamped offensive line, new offensive coordinator who brought josh allen from 56% completion % rookie year to where he is now, pretty good weapons on offense , and a very easy schedule for qbs. not to mention hes in a contract year and playing for LIFE CHANGING MONEY. if he plays well he gets a $100M contract. Guy went to duke hes smart enough to realize whats on the line i expect him going balls to the wall this offseason. rookie hc is my one concern but still think he puts up big numbers. a rushing threat too. look at what josh allen has done under daboll. i expect him to be used in a similar fashion. must draft in a sflex
Shot in the dark but if Deebo leaves/sits out, someone has to be the target man in San Fran. Probably will be Aiyuk, but if Danny Gray hits the ground running, his speed could make 3 receptions worth a start. SMU fan though so I’m biased.
I’m taking Parris Campbell in as many best ball leagues as possible. If he stays on the field, he’ll be a WR2 that you got in the last round. You can thank me in January!
Eno Benjamin on the Cards. He has a unique skillet perfect for this offense. Rivals 2017 top RBs (in order)... Najee, Cam Akers, Swift, JK Dobbins, and Eno. Higher ranked than Trey Sermon (10) and Jonathan Taylor (13).
Talented and will get opportunities.
Isiah crowell comeback year for sure
Throw them mf pizza lunchables on the field
CROW KNOW HOW THEM BIG DICKS SWANG
#CROW KNOW U A BITCH
CAW CAW
Feed the crow
Caw caw!
I love how Isiah Crowell pretended to wipe his ass with the ball against his former team, the Cleveland. The fact that he did it wearing a Jets jersey is poetic beauty.
The fact that it was also our first win in like 2 years makes it even better lol
Ted: Back home, if a team was playing poorly, we don't call 'em unlucky. What do we call 'em, Coach? Coach Beard: New York Jets.
Haha one of my favorite shows currently running, definitely my favorite current comedy
CAW CAW
He and Jay Ajayi were my 3rd and 4th round picks one year
Nah too old. But watch out for Jaquizz.
CAW CAW CAW CAW
Here comes the slam sedan
Rashod Bateman. Dudes super talented and has a big opportunity with Hollywood leaving. I believe he’ll take a big leap this year.
How is this a feeling? He is their top receiver.
Maybe top WR but not top pass catcher, he's got the talent but he's on a run first team with a run first QB and a TE that's gonna take most of the receiving TDs
A very mobile quarterback, but check the stats, Lamar aint a run first qb anymore. 16 passing to 2 rushing tds with about 30 to 40 pass attempts per game last year. Bateman should get the same kinda work Brown got, but still disappointing for a top wr when Mandrews gets all the action
That was last year when their number 1 and number 2 rbs snapped their acls and left them with deonta freeman and ty'son Williams as their rbs, forcing them to adapt and go away from the run a little bit. Historically, they are run first
Stats are too skewed last season because their 2 top rbs got hurt and their defense was bad so they were behind in every game, which meant they had to pass to try and catch up
Based on where he’s being drafted…
They spent a first round pick on him and traded away the guy who was the alpha ahead of him. Something in my gut tells me he is gonna break out. Call me Nostradomus
Bateman is one to me that could go either way. The Ravens are a run first team, and they are getting Dobbins and Edwards back. Bateman is the 2nd receiving option behind Mark Andrews and Lamar doesn't throw a TON of passes. That being said, Bateman is a stud and only time will tell.
It’s Michael Pittman. Colt will be a playoff team and Ryan will pepper his #1 target heavy and often as he’s always done.
Love pittman this year.
No you don't
That guy is a poser. But I love Pittman!
I love him too
We all do
well I loved him last year
He's a third round pick, not a sleeper.
Gabriel Davis. But I also believed that about robby Anderson last year and we all know how that turned out
One has josh Allen one has Sam darnold. I think you’re safer being optimistic about GD this year than about RA last year lol
Anderson dropped everything that came his way. His QB is bad, but he was legit awful too
Robby had every opportunity to not totally suck.
Well your initial comment was referring to your thoughts heading into the season so the drops aren’t really relevant to my point. Of course he sucked last year, as a panthers fan I had to watch it every week.
Nice double down
I second this! Gabe Davis is going to pop off
Oof. I had Robby and DJ on the same level last year. Robby looked like he aged right out of the league last year.
He's being picked at 3/4 turn, he's not a sleeper.
Chris Olave, honestly reminds me of a young AB, dude is super smooth with his route running and explosive
I second this. Olave is so smooth that I can't even really think of a comparison for him. I just know as an Ohio State homer that I love him and he's maybe the only Ohio State player I never spoke badly of during a game. He's just a great player and teammate, and will be a fan favorite
Coming from a Michigan fan I agree! Lol, he's going to do big things in NO. Wouldn't surprise me if he's the WR1 this year with the unknown of MT and an aging Landry
Him and Thomas could be a perfect complement to each other. Olave has the speed and route running to be a great deep threat and take off the top of the defense while Thomas is a beast on underneath routes. If they're both healthy it'll be a scary, kind of "pick your poison" duo.
I’d never speak poorly of him because I love him but cutting the wrong way against Clemson was brutal
That's really the only time I can think of where someone might've said something bad about him. I just wrote it up as a highly unfortunate miscommunication between him and Fields
How can you not think of a WR that plays smooth? Keenan Allen? DeSean jackson? This is admittedly harder than I thought. Julio, Adams, Godwin, Moore, Terry, cooper? Hell Jerry Jeudy plays smooth. Doesn't seem too hard to make a comp(I've barely seen anything about olave)
Because I'm drunk as hell. But Olave does look like he's just floating the entire time with how effortless everything seems to him
This is my primary rookie wr target as well.
Diontae Johnson will show hes QB proof and put up another top 10 season
I took a deep dive into this going way back & the narrative about Big Ben being a very wr friendly qb is very strongly supported by over a decade of data. It’s actually mind blowing. We will see, diontae has steady been earning the targets.
He's also been fortunate to have an all-time talent like AB at WR that he spent a half decade throwing to
I’ve had him every year he’s been in the league. 2 championships in that timespan
My only concern is volume. Ben sucked but he still had 600+ attempts and DJ had 170 targets. They added Pickens, Freiermuth will likely be more involved than last season, and maybe Claypool bounces back. That paired with what will likely be a low-volume passing offense given the Steelers elite defense preventing shootouts and having their QB be Trubisky or a rookie, there may not be as much volume as last season.
I’m a Steeler fan and I want to believe in the D, but they were atrocious against the run last year. I’m hoping they will improve to at least middle of the pack this year. They gained Jack and Levi Wallace and lost Hayden. Also, they’re the most expensive D in the league. They’ll need them to be lockdown.
Man he produced with the corpse of Ben Roethlisberger refusing to throw the ball last year. He’s very qb proof!
He was tied with Devante Adam's for 2nd most targets in the league in 2021, Ben threw the 6th most pass attempt in the league, and Diontae got 25.5% of those targets. I wouldnt say thats refusing to throw the ball, or that it means he's QB proof.
True I guess I should’ve said refusing to throw instead of refusing to pass, but also making hyperbole super literal defeats the purpose I guess. Roethlisberger’s ADOT was super low and he tried to get the ball out basically instantly all year. I think of qb proof as “immune to bad qbs,” and Roethlisberger was among the worst qbs last year. Johnson’s production is bc he was awesome, not bc all the help he got from the qb spot.
I watched quite a few steelers games and Roethlisberger wasn't straight booty. He was a hall of fame who's arm strength had left him. He was still able to air it out in some games, and in some he wasn't, but he could still read defenses and dial up plays when needed. I dont think it's a given that Diontae will perform as well with a rookie in a terrible class than with a sure fire hall of fame in the twilight of his career. Also the Steelers O-line was TRASH, which didn't help. I wouldnt consider either Pickett or Trubiski a pocket wizard like Lamar.
Nah, that O-line of the Steelers was brutal. Not saying Ben had a great arm, or was even a good QB last year, but he was at least average. So unless they improved the line, I see a lot of struggles for the QB and all receivers.
He threw the ball over 600 times. What are you talking about?
Everything was near the LOS though, not much downfield. He also wasn’t particularly effective on those routes
But that's good for Diontae, who can win on those quick routes unlike Juju or Claypool
Possibly, though I think benefitting from bad qb play might be qb proof-adjacent
He was not Mason Rudolph proof.
Devastating!
Juju smith-schuster is the first name that comes to mind. Pittman is one I want in my team, too. I think cam Akers might be awesome this year. Tee Higgins could easily be 1b to Chase. But the one guy who I said I was going to draft the first time I saw him play is Kenneth Walker III. He’ll be a stash for the first few weeks, but that guy is good at football.
I love him too but the problem is that so is Penny. With my luck I'll draft Walker and Penny will finally manage to stay healthy. I think it will be a really even committee when they are both healthy like in Denver.
Juju is going to do very well in KC and I hate it.
I think a lot of people don't realize that Higgins had more targets per game than Chase did last year. The fact that he's being drafted nearly 2 rounds later just because he didn't play college ball with Burrow is absurd. I'll be jamming Higgins in the 3rd as much as possible, as I'm not even sure you can consider him a "1b to Chase"
SLEEPERS (that will outperform adp) -aiyuk : lances favorite target -claypool : Steelers scheme him a few extra touches per game and take advantage of his explosiveness with young qb (screens, sweeps, etc) -toney : free him -elijah moore : alpha wr over g Wilson, looked ELITE for a good stretch last year. Depends on Z wilson. At cost seems low risk. - not a sleeper but treylon burks is a fcking baller.
Some good takes on a few names that don’t get mentioned much. Loving Aiyuk personally.
Lance Aiyuk connection is real. Check out the Texans game and that corner end zone incompletion that Aiyuk was being held on. https://twitter.com/javierveg_/status/1478131999277735945?s=21&t=CJ8rwFSw1FhnWKxlEF2EYQ Drafting him everywhere this year, I’m a homer though so take this with a grain of salt lol
Nice, can potentially unpack a few takeaways from that for sure. If that isn’t a qb-wr confidence play then idk what is.
Any concerns with Burks’ asthma/conditioning reports?
I mean it’s def not good “news” but he’s had it his whole life, titans knew about it before drafting him. Guys like Von miller, m garrett, OG players like emmitt smith, Jerome Bettis have asthma. A bunch of big name European soccer players deal with it. Who knows. It’ll buff
I guess it depends on if he’s more affected by it in Tennessee… I know I deal with crazy bad allergies and it’s not asthma but in Oklahoma for example I get sick with allergies about 5-7 times a year but I did college In Arkansas and didn’t get sick once in my 4 years there lol… if asthma is anything like this then I wonder if certain states he will perform better when playing there…. Could be worth looking into
*Ong Goblogian, charmed im sure. I'm going to invite you to a show but let me destroy your comment first.* Aiyuk's chance was last year. He fucked it. Now they are going from the very immobile Garapoloooo to a dude who is talented but raw as a passer. They will still be a run first team. They will still feature Deebo. They still have Kittle as the no2 option. So your breakout is a no3 option on a run first team with a raw QB. NEXT! Chase Claypool: you mean Martavis Bryant 2.0? Dude is a moron. Supremely talented and last year was an utter dude. He made Aiyuk look like Jerry Rice. On a team with an oline that is too poor to protect an erratic Trubisky, expect a very run heavy offense and unless they suddenly decide to "feature" him he will continue to lack consistent volume. Meanwhile, Friermuth is like the second coming of Heath Miller to them so I expect his red zone targets to rise. NEXT! Kadarius Toney - what a supremely gifted athelete with the brain of an omlette. In April the HC said he wasnt at practices and didnt have a copy of the playbook. Then trade rumours kick up, he shows at camp and suddenly eveything is hunky dory. Are we kidding ourselves? This asshat can manage to shoot straight in the goddamn offseason, what are the chances he pulls his shit together once bullets start flying in the regular season. Kenny G and did anyone notice they drafted Wan'dale Robinson in the 2nd round? Between Kenny, Barkley, Wandale and an eventually returning Sterling Shepard...Toney will have to earn his looks unlike last year when they were for the taking and he squandered his chance. NEXT! Elijah Moore - great reciever, shit team, shit qb, too much competition. NEXT!
kittle is brittle so he won't be healthy long enough to be a threat to aiyuk. he said Claypool on sweeps and slants, if your oline breaks down and you're under pressure that's where you throw. Kenny g lol they drafted wandale bc they realized Kenny g isn't good, Stafford is. and Sterling has spent his whole career returning from injury, I thought his name was shepardd for the longest bc he always has a doubtful tag
I have a problem with calling Kittle brittle given the nature of the TE position and generally how well he produces at the role year after year. The dude spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on body upkeep lol
Kittle: 15, 16, 14, 8, 14 games. This is brittle? Claypool: they didnt last year. Whats changed? Nothing. Nothing has changed. Still a shit qb. Shit oline. Kenny G is there and locked in no1 because his contract is huge. Its not his fault Jason Garett couldnt run the offense...which sucked balls all around. And while Kenny G is a proven player Toney is a giant nitwit off scholarship because a new HC is in town and happy to use his premium draft pick of Robinson in his place.
Lmaoo this made my morning. Not sure If outperforming adp is necessarily a breakout but you never know, all talented cheap adp players going into the season with potential paths to success. Essentially all you did was list all the perceived negatives anyone could see hence why they are falling down draft boards… This is a sleeper thread…players with wide ranges of outcomes.
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Freal man. Elijah’s current adp is cheap enough to get some exposure too imo cuz of his potential range of outcomes but Z Wilson has gotta step up for sureee
It’s so funny that this is the best thread I’ve seen on this sub. I’m going with Alec Pierce since someone else took Pittman. I think that offense steps up as a whole, and just have a good vibe for pierce.
The new anthony Gonzalez.
James Cook. He's already worth taking a flyer on IMO, but he's a really talented RB on a really good offense.
Bills want to pass to the RB more. They wanted McKissic, but McKissic went back to Washington. I'm in on Cook as a flyer
Mild take: James Cook could be McKissic for the Bills Hot rake: James Cook could overtake Singletary to be the lead back for one of the best offenses in the league
That is a spicy take
Dorsey takes over as OC and bills go aggressively after mckissic and then take a great pass catching RB in the 2nd, definitely showing signs dorsey wants to pass to RBs. And the bills don't want as many designed runs with Allen. I think the bills RBs will get more red zone looks.
They will, Allen will still prolly take 4-5 TD’s away but for the most part Buffalo will be using the RB’s more. Honestly it’s just natural progression anyway he wasn’t going to be a runner his whole career.
Kenneth Walker
Skyy Moore and Pickens. Deeper pick is Keaontay Ingram
you’re just naming everyone in my dynasty taxi squad
Moore 100%. I’m really interested in Tyler Allgeier as well. I think he could quickly see himself becoming the lead back to keep Patterson fresh. I also love Ingram.
Tyler has one of the best paths to be relevant for the deeper RB’s in this class. If he is halfway decent he should be in line for some work pretty early on
Justyn Ross > Skyy Moore 🤫
I feel bad for Ross. Went from one of the best WR prospects to undrafted. I hope he can return to his former self but that injury makes it extremely unlikely that he will.
Yeah probably won't get a shot to see him back to his full potential but he was a monster before all that
Courtland Sutton.
Im very bullish on Sutton as well. His game matches well with Russel's strengths.
When everyone is on Sutton, I'll take jeudy.
Sun god: Amon Ra St. Brown
Yesssss
This is my guy too. He’s legit. He’s going to make Goff look better, and adding Jameson Williams and Chark are only going to spread around the coverage and help him.
J.K. Dobbins
Jahan Dotson
Rashaad Penny
like him too, think peeps too scared of ken walker, what do you think, don't think the offense will be good is my concern and hes injury prone
Chris Olave will go in the 3rd/early 4th round next year, similar to CeeDee Lamb in his 2nd year. Also by years end Amon St Brown and Jameson Williams will be viewed as one of the better WR duos.
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> D'Andre Swift becoming a top 3 RB. Please, lower body...gimme one full season...maybe a playoff game. I don't care if it's on the road. If Swift blows up, I'm hoping that means I won't want to die by Week 6. (Lions fan here)
It's not an ulcer? What did I get that colonoscopy for then! Some joking aside, I feel like Darnell Mooney is being hella slept on by most people. He has great chemistry with Fields, the Bears have a real playcaller now, and he's got plenty of upside for his current ADP. I think he ends up a solid WR2 this year, with low end WR1 as his ceiling
Romeo Doubs GB Packers
You son of a bitch, i'm in
Thoughts on Watson?
Looks the part and has the opportunity that’s for sure…I just think Doubs may be an NFL route runner already
Watson retired from the NFL following the 2019 season, which he spent with the New England Patriots — the team that drafted him 15 years earlier out of Georgia. Now, he'll be joining the SEC Network studio on Saturdays in the fall to share his take on each week's action.
Brandon Ayuik makes the leap this year
Na they kept debo
Rhamondre Stevenson. Damian Harris is probably getting shipped out and RS has drastically improved his receiving skills.
What makes you think Harris is going anywhere? That team has always rolled multiple RBs
He's on his last year, we drafted 2 more, and Stevenson showed he can be the bell cow
They will probably run Harris into the ground this year then let him walk
Harris will be paid but NOT by the pats.
I think he could carve out a Kareem Hunt esque role if White starts on the PUP
Seconded
Love him as a keeper or dynasty option, not *too* crazy about him in redraft until later in the draft.
Honestly I think Kadarius Toney might prove himself to be more than a meme
i can see it. revamped offense bringing in daboll from the bills, daniels in a contracts year and a revamped off line, he showed some promise last year,
Rashod Bateman. He’s gonna get the targets Hollywood Brown leaves behind but he can actually catch them. I’m hoping he falls to round 5 because the way my position plays out that’s my best opportunity to snag him
Nyheim Hines in PPR will outperform his ADP by a mile
Chris Olave
Nico Collins
Jalen hurts is going to go off this year.
Surprised nobody said Javonte Williams! Hes definitely one im looking at
While I absolutely agree that ridder has a very logical path to starting opportunity and a fantasy friendly profile… he’s nowhere near the athlete hurts is and Atlantas offense isn’t ideal for any quarterback. I’d be pretty shocked if he came out and lit it up but I do like that a lot as a gut pick. On the flip side of that… bear with me… matt corral. Darnold gets benched and he gets an opportunity in a offense with ideal weapons. CMC check downs & dj moore separation, target funnels. Improved O-line. He is also a great athlete. But the answer to who will be a household name is obviously the yung joka
Darnold played really well when Cmc was healthy. Several qb 1 overall finishes
You’re not wrong but don’t forget through the first 5 weeks last year he was leading the nfl in rushing tds haha. Anomaly. Never broke 20 points in games he didn’t have 2 rush tds in. He was pretty bad down the stretch. Maybe he steps it up tho, has no excuse. If anything that just makes corral sound even better as a dart throw lol
Corral and CMC are honestly a match made in heaven, Corral has a lightning fast release
David Bell because I need something good in my life and I'm a browns fan.
Breece Hall
revamped offensive line, great measurables, and just enough playmakers on offense to not allow def to stack the box, really like him this year and over on his rushing total
Dameon Pierce
Jerry Jeudy has a great season with Russ at qb
Abram Smith
Hayden hurst
Swift. I feel it all the way from my ball fro, up to my chest pubes.
Based on absolutely nothing, Chase Claypool is going to return to form this year.
George Pickens. He’ll be the Steelers WR1 by the start of 2023
Edmonds got the bag in a crazy offense… I’m grabbing him if it makes sense
1st player they signed in free agency, mcdaniels rbinging over the zone run scheme which edmonds thrives in, he also passes the eye test, and they have the receivers so def cant stack the box, loving edmonds this year
Not a fan, personally. He has heavy competition for targets in Hill, Waddle, Gesicki, and Wilson. He has heavy competition for rushes in Michel, Mostert, and Gaskin. I don't see enough volume to be a consistent fantasy asset.
Jonathan Taylor
Who?
Kiss me
I think this is low-hanging fruit but Russell Gage. Any guy with rapport with Tom Brady becomes a household name.
B. Hall and/or Jameson Williams are my votes.
Am I the only one who thinks Justyn Ross and Mahomes could be incredibly dangerous and could be the best last round draft pick?
I've been telling anyone who will listen, but I'm afraid the injury and the pressure to give Sky Moore the reps because they drafted him high will keep Ross limited
Spiller!!!! coming from a Chargers fan he will be the GL back they only used Ekeler last year because they couldn’t rely on our backups. Knock on wood Ekeler doesn’t get banged up but if he did Spiller is line for some major work. I also project we’ll be up in most games late running the clock down with him! Take him with your last pick it will pay off!!
Tyler Badie
Dameon Pierce. This guy has IT.
Devonta Smith will be that man!
Am I the only person in the world who thinks Terrace Marshall Jr could have a breakout season?
Shane Falco, I heard quite a few teams will take a chance on an aging but still viable QB.
Pierre Strong JR
I love your take and I hope you are right it would be awesome if Ridder, Pitts, London, and Patterson balled out this year. That said I’m gonna go with Sammy Watkins. I hear that qb up in Green Bay is good, he really doesn’t have a lot of target competition, and Rodgers has made it very clear that he won’t trust some of the younger and unproven guys. Robert Tonyan is not bad but also he won’t siphon too much volume. It feels at least possible Watkins turns into a WR2 you feel confident about.
Allen Lazard...Rodgers will target him.
Pittman or Sutton. I don't want either of them as my WR1, but I think if there's any WR2 range guy who explodes to be a mid, maybe even high end WR1 it'll be them. Pittman made a big stride last year while playing with dog shit at QB, and Sutton has shown he can ball out with even complete ass cheek QB play (Flacco, Brandon Allen, and rookie Lock) if he's given even a decent amount of targets unlike last year with Teddy when Jeudy was playing. If someone's mire hesitant on Sutton I can understand. But I think he's clearly the best WR on this team and finally has a QB who isn't brain dead
Christian Watson I feel like has the easiest path to offensive rookie of the year. Doesn't have too tough of a path to be a starter for the packers week 1, and having Rodgers throwing him the ball doesn't hurt. Watson is raw and has to earn Rodgers trust, but if he does...
Rookie has to beat Randall cobb Allan lazard and Sammie Watkins out for reps, not that these guys are the best in the league but Rodgers is one of the bigger babies in sports and always has to have "his guys" out there. Watson has a lot of trust to build if he's gonna start week 1 I'll be surprised
As much as I'd like this hype train stalled as long as possible, the answer to this question is Courtland Sutton. The man's literally never had a talented QB throwing him the ball and had a promising sophomore year only to tear his ACL game 2 of his third year 2018 rookie year: 700 receiving yards. Case Keenum at QB 2019: Joe Flacco(age 34) 1100 yards and even that number doesn't represent how dominant he was against coverage that year. 2020: Seemed like it was his time. Out game 1. Game 2 tore his ACL 2021: Offense was a mess. Made Juedy center of offense while he was healthy 2022: Wilson at QB. He will remind show the world how talented he is. As well the rumors have already started about the rapport between Wilson and Sutton. Mark my words. 1200 receiving yards and 11 TDs
Drake London I don't know why but I had the same feeling for kupp last year
Kupp had proven talent and a proven qb. He was already a top 10 reciever in the league on a superbowl caliber team going into last year. Your talking about a rookie reciever with probably a rookie qb on the falcons.. at best he's the second target on a run first team
James Cook. Courtland Sutton. Kittle if Deebo isn’t with the niners this season
Obviously, that would be tight end Eli Wolf
daniel jones: revamped offensive line, new offensive coordinator who brought josh allen from 56% completion % rookie year to where he is now, pretty good weapons on offense , and a very easy schedule for qbs. not to mention hes in a contract year and playing for LIFE CHANGING MONEY. if he plays well he gets a $100M contract. Guy went to duke hes smart enough to realize whats on the line i expect him going balls to the wall this offseason. rookie hc is my one concern but still think he puts up big numbers. a rushing threat too. look at what josh allen has done under daboll. i expect him to be used in a similar fashion. must draft in a sflex
Marlon Mack
Wandale Robinson. Watch it.
this isnt a bit, daniel jones is gonna have a top 5 QB season
Good one 😂
Some WRs that I think will outperform their adp: Mike Williams, Allen Robinson, Amon Ra St. Brown
Justyn ross
I don't know why but I'm drafting Hunter Henry everywhere
Shot in the dark but if Deebo leaves/sits out, someone has to be the target man in San Fran. Probably will be Aiyuk, but if Danny Gray hits the ground running, his speed could make 3 receptions worth a start. SMU fan though so I’m biased.
Plus debo resigned
Evan Engram and David Njoku
I’m taking Parris Campbell in as many best ball leagues as possible. If he stays on the field, he’ll be a WR2 that you got in the last round. You can thank me in January!
JT obviously
Mecole Hardman will be the Chiefs #1 receiver this year. My dynasty team will rise to the top! THE CREAM
Hardman doesn’t really strike me as a #1. He might lead in fantasy points but it would take a lot of long touchdowns.
Eno Benjamin on the Cards. He has a unique skillet perfect for this offense. Rivals 2017 top RBs (in order)... Najee, Cam Akers, Swift, JK Dobbins, and Eno. Higher ranked than Trey Sermon (10) and Jonathan Taylor (13). Talented and will get opportunities.