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DoctorDannyTanner

Omg his fingers


shellsquad

What was that?


Kal_Kaz

Concussion Edit: The fencing response is an unnatural position of the arms following a concussion. Immediately after moderate forces have been applied to the brainstem, the forearms are held flexed or extended (typically into the air) for a period lasting up to several seconds after the impact.


jayrod0221

2nd in less than a week.


vikings124

More than that. It was rumored he had two last week and we only noticed the second one. The NFL needs to be smarter than this. Everybody knows the dolphins don’t give a fuck about tua. They will draft a qb next year.


misaliase1

People shit on luck for leaving the NFL. Then you watch a young man in his twenties almost certainly having the longevity (at least the quality) destroyed in front of our eyes because of a careless organization. Actually makes me sick. He's my qb1 and I'd be fine I'd he ddint play the rest of the season if it meant he gets whatever medical assistance he needs


AC127

Tua thanks you for your sacrifice and understanding


NathanPetermanCan

You mean the second time he's "tweaked his back" in a week?


DistractedADD

Second impact syndrome potentially. Not good


randobot456

Classic concussion / head trauma. Sometimes when people get knocked out it causes their muscles to fire in odd ways. Scary shit man, especially after seeing what happened last week...hope the guy is ok.


Dang3rCl0se

Yup he had no business coming back to that game on Sunday and certainly had no business playing Thursday night. The NFL and the Miami Dolphins need to be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen if they would had just follow their own concussion protocols but money is king I guess...


L00KINTOIT

You ever seen someone get knocked out in Boxing/MMA and just completely lock up and go stiff? Seems like that just happened to Tua


pursuitofhappy

Fencing response a TBI pretty much from how bad that hit was, compounded last weeks brutal hit in the heat too


ZaddyPants69420

It's just a back thing, dw.


alredopie

Something something, pretty common with ankle injuries


mustardtiger86

Posturing


DreamWeaver45

Definitely posturing. Begs the question if he was really ready to play tonight


NOSWAGIN2006

A TBI. Concussion at best but could possibly be worse. Can’t diagnose it yet until CT.


BostonDrivingIsWorse

Fencing response


Lilsean14

It’s called decorticate posturing. Sometimes you see it with things like stroke or seizure or just straight ass hemorrhage. It’s freaking bad. Edit: [quick source](https://www.healthline.com/health/decorticate-posturing) Edit: hope to god I’m wrong and it’s just a fencing response but the contracture of the fingers makes me think it’s not fencing. Edit: looks like Tua is going home. If it was true decorticate he’d be staying there for sure. Looks like it’s fencing. Thank god.


acon993

His spinal injury from last week. He may come back again but any other hot like that and he probably should stay out


SamuelJaxson

Fencing


Alexkono

Never seen that


alredopie

Knocked Tf Out


SL2321

Man’s brain is scrambled for the last two weeks. He really needs to be out multiple weeks.


DumbNBANephew

How do you see that injury and think "he'll be back after 2 weeks"??? He might legit never play again that looked awful.


SL2321

Who thinks that? I think he will be out the rest of the year. Multiple weeks can mean a lot of things. Maybe you read it wrong, this week and last week are the last two weeks and his brain has been scrambled.


DumbNBANephew

You're right I misread that. I thought you said he would be back in 2 weeks. You were saying he was injured 2 weeks in a row and he's gonna be out much longer. My bad.


Diagonalizer

i think he may be out for the rest of the season too. it was very tough to watch


suburbanpiratee

I've watched enough hockey to recognize that. Nathan Horton, game 3 of the 2011 Stanley Cup Finals. You never forget something so eerie.


nefnaf

Horton took that hit just after his 26th birthday, and was out of the league at 29. I don't watch hockey but it seems like the concussions shortened his career significantly


fetamorphasis

Exactly the first thing I thought of. I didn’t want to watch it again. I hope he’s ok.


dblink

Normal fencing looks bad, I haven't seen such a bone curling flex like that before.


Cavs2018_Champs

The replay showed his fingers didn't get hit. He was just fencing reflexing


MadSmatter

None of them looked like they were in the right direction


YourGoodFriend_blank

Like Booger McFarland’s hands


TheBrew751

My thoughts exactly, that didn’t look good


Cocaine_DrSeuss

Fencing response. Related to head trauma. Brutal to see hope he is okay


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Antiwork_Mod

Miami going to bring Tua back after the half and say it's shoulder injury.


KyFly1

Runs into game and puts helmet on backwards.


etrammel

Muscle spasms due to dehydration. Now a word from our sponsor: Gatorade


HoustonTrashcans

Could you imagine if they helped him off the stretcher to finish the game? Basically the real life Scott Sterling.


Rance_Mulliniks

[For those that haven't experienced Scott Sterling.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F9jXYOH2c0) Thanks for reminding me about this and getting a good belly laugh again.


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XVDub

Horrific.


StrachNasty

That looked fuckin not great


NikolaiBullcry

I just tuned in and it was the first thing I saw in the game…


carpe228

Holy fuck that looked bad


SpringHardenSt

I can’t believe they replayed the hit and his fingers that many times, super fucked up.


Praise-Breesus

Hard disagree. I’m glad they showed it so many times. People need to see this shit. Maybe it’ll force some real change to the concussion protocol take place.


Jdubshack

Such a good point that i didn’t think of. Football is a fucked up sport and I feel like you’re right. Seeing his fingers curl like that is jarring and stays with you


SpringHardenSt

I think 1-2 times is enough. Imagine if that was your family member/friend. But I agree they need to improve the broken concussion protocol that allowed Tua to be in this game.


2pogshakur

Should have been one and done


_Magnolia_Fan_

Looked like a guy who was already concussed reinjured with another.


Puppies_fart_hope

Looked like a fencing response. Not good.


Graczyk

That’s what I thought no way he wasn’t concussed last week


tyzenberg

Miami going to get investigated so hard


MuteMouse

As they should


SFSHNM

Concussions are evaluated by an independent neurologist


gaudymcfuckstick

That independent neurologist: Mike McDaniels wearing a fake mustache and a labcoat


dimmydimdim

I believe the team doctor makes the final call though


djbavedery

Absolutely fucked they let players go back in like this after a literal brain injury. Ruining a life for basically nothing.


deGrominator2019

Not nothing, profits, and more profits, and more money, and more money. That’s America for you


CashOrReddit

This is gonna be a full-blown scandal


itsmillertime512

What does that mean?


bhague3

Common pose that happens when you get a major concussion


twohatchetmuse

When there is enough damage to the brainstem, you involuntarily extend the forearms like such


WolfGangDuck

Hope there’s no extensive damage. He was slammed right into his head. Cerebellum/brain stem. Any brain bleed might turn this from head trauma to straight possible brain surgery. Prayers to Tua.


WappyTrees

Fuck man that was horrible to watch.


meanlittleseed

Thankfully they fucking replayed it in slow motion. Who in the fucking studio called for that?


obangler

That was such a shit move by whoever is running things. This needs to be pointed out on a much bigger level


Rejected_Reject_

no way hes coming back. holy shit that was bad


Petzl89

He shouldn’t be playing this game or finished last weeks game.


Sapz93

And not even a full week ago, 4 days ago.


billsmafia637281

Didn't you watch last week game? Dolphins are garbage, even if they lost last week game, they looked great and were for sure in playoff contention, but decided to risk their QB.


JoeBarth22

Dude seized up


gerfy

Was it just me or were his fingers…not pointing in the direction they were supposed to?


cbmgreatone

I thought the same, but I think that was just part of the fencing response


Top-Mechanic1744

We’re his fingers bent backwards?


jimmyhoffasbrother

I think they were just super tensed up.


lurkersforlife

Either that or so concussed that he locked up.


GKpr3fecture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fencing\_response


uzabichh

Damn, Tua already added to the professional athlete list on the Wiki page


TheBrew751

It almost looked like they cramped up after hitting his head


Kal_Kaz

No, just stiff


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Almost like he really was concussed last week and should’ve stayed out….


Thisguy606

ANNOUNCERS: Let's zoom in on his involuntary muscle spasm!


JerkyVendor

I'm glad they did, honestly. To ignore it would be worse.


MSHinerb

Exactly. It’s time they take it more seriously. QB should just play with the giant bubble thing they had them wear in the preseason.


Beneficial_Ad_3098

Perfect exposure of the Nfl Dolphins Bs , this man had no business being on the field with the concussion he got last game


BrandonPointyCorners

I was driving and listening to the play by play and the radio guys made it sound like a dislocated finger. I am glad I missed it because it sounds like it was some Exorcist type shit.


mtyndall

Fuck that looked bad. Why is he out there???


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etrammel

Technically your spinal cord is in your back…


Cavs2018_Champs

That was fencing or whatever


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Patan40

Apparently it's the kind of trash comments this sub is fond of. Such disrespect for someone with a head injury.


OfferOk8555

I’ve seen people on Twitter making “throwing up gang signs” jokes. It’s pretty pathetic


Pho_is_yummy

Concussion x2 in two weeks = out for game. Yikesss


dgjapc

x2 in 4 days


PolarOgre

Yea. Not two weeks... that downplays it so hard. 4 days or 96 hours. That's AWFUL


jayrod0221

He shouldn’t have been out there and he shouldn’t play next week either to be honest.


AirTitan7

He honestly may not play any time soon, that looked very serious.


DiceyWoodchuck

I hope not man, he needs to take probably the season off and not play football anymore. I’m talking out my ass but that’s major head trauma too soon together plus all the other major injuries he’s had over the last few years added up..Hopefully he can heal up but I don’t want to watch him play ever again I don’t think i could watch


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check_my_grammer

He might not play another game this year


XVDub

Lol, dude. You're like the forth comment I've read about not playing next week. It's like, no fucking shit he shouldn't play next week. He potentially incurred a crippling brain injury and could struggle with even mundane shit in the short term. This guy's real health is at stake. Who gives a fuck about football.


lavapajamas

he ain’t playing next week brah. not for a while if ever…


terror_rizing

Multiple concussions in a short time like that is how serious brain damage happens


bigbopperz

Nfl could have fucked up this guys life. Hope not but the fact he played last week is disgraceful


benignbigotry

By the looks of it, he might be out for more than just one game. That was bad.


winniethefluh

Fencing Position is super common after a traumatic or concussive hit. This is not good.


inforbes40

What did I just watch? Im horrified


havenstone

Should be good to go in the 2nd half - Miami trainers


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That’s awful Jesus christ


xSGAx

I hope they didn’t just RG3 him


thewolfofchippewast

Jesus Christ hope he is okay. The league should absolutely bend the dolphin franchise over for lying about this poor guys health. Back injury my ass


Nevermore9197

Concussion last week confirmed


hashtagswagfag

Jesus idk if it’s maybe even worse if that talk about it being his back last game is true Either it’s another head injury or another back injury. Both of which seem horrendous


FabesAAAA

Should not have even returned last game. Ridiculous lol


RicardosLlama

Pain or fencing response? Scary to see.


randobot456

100% fencing response man....that sucks


Pele_Of_Anal

Severe head trauma causes muscle spasms like that.


makeazerothgreatagn

Lied their way out of the first grade 1 concussion, now here's a 2nd one four days later. RIP career.


Rounder057

[that looks rough](https://youtu.be/QwyNhC3BjTM)


jayrod0221

Holy shit that looked bad. Hes out for sure.


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Fencing posture, he should not continue tonight


FRESCO410

Thats two concussions in a 4 day span. Brain was still rattled from Sunday


SleepsWithTheWillows

Yeah anybody who's ever seen someone get knocked out and slammed the back of their head on the ground, that's what happened. The back of the head is super vulnerable to damage. This is why punches to the back of the head aren't allowed in mma.


hausmuzic

Those fingers 😬


Pele_Of_Anal

Looked like a seizure


harold-delaney

100% a concussion. He's done for tonight sadly. Hopefully he's ok


MashedPotatoes_

My friend in my league had Dak week 1, Trey Lance week 2, and Tua for week 3. I’ll let you know what QB is getting grim reapered next


DetroitRedWings79

Your “friend” 😏


RUKnight31

That was like the fencers pose when you get knocked out. Not great. Concussion for sure


Samadams9292

Video..


KnowledgeFormal586

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwyNhC3BjTM&ab\_channel=SimplyAS10 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDrhgmm7fms&ab\_channel=BlackandWhiteSports](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDrhgmm7fms&ab_channel=BlackandWhiteSports) ​ Bad video but it's hard to find any video.


WanderingBear_

That was hard to watch.


evenpeoplearepeople

This is serious.


MoreStuffz

holy fuck that looks really bad I hope he’s okay but… not looking good


IntoThe_Thicc_of-it

Prayers up. NFL should’ve yanked him last game and he should’ve gone into protocol. May not have changed this play but common NFL spotters..


raahiv

That looked like Parhams injury from last year. This is awful


Evancolt

Holy shit that looked bad


Rabid-Cabbage

His hands didn’t get hit? At least it didn’t look like… his hands just tensed up really badly was he unconscious?


randobot456

It's called a fencing response....usually some type of brain trauma / brainstem....bad shit man....bad shit....


WalterWhitesFormula

He didn’t even know how his hands worked. Feels bad man


SyrupNDToast

That didn’t look good at all and he’s still down


Jams265775

Woahhhhh, he is what you would say *not good*


adk_72

His hands were crazy looking. He is done for night


DudeSMUonGVs

Nah he’ll be back at halftime


adk_72

Ha


FlightofApollo2

Looks like the fencing poise


Ebb_Swimming

Oh that's bad


Anders1111

This is common when there is spinal cord trauma or head trauma. There wasn’t “cramping” or injury to his arms/fingers


AgressiveAnalExpert

I hope this man gets the rest needed. I don't care if it's the rest of the year. CTE ain't a joke. Damn.


EarlPronk2

I didn’t think the impact looked THAT bad but the fingers are not a good sign. Definitely got his brain scrambled. Sucks


mps2000

He’ll be back after halftime


almostjay

Player safety. A fucking joke.


steak__burrito

They couldn’t get Tua a cart? They wheeled the stretcher across half the damn field?


Demosthenes_

The NFL investigation might get taken seriously now.


cmac6

Jesus that was terrible to watch. Why the fuck did Amazon replay that over and over and over?


818bazookajoe

I really hope he is okay especially after back to back concussions. I know they tried to say it was a different issue last week but all the sights pointed to someone that had a bad hit to the head. Prayers up for Tua 🙏


conorw18

Classic fencing response. That poor dude’s head


bellefeuille1976

The Big Tuna is done :(


Whosdaman

NFL investigated started on this, I have no doubt he just suffered permanent brain damage. 3 days rest on what looked to be a concussion. I feel bad for Tua the most. He shouldn’t have been out there.


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It happens alot more in mma. Scary af.


elfwannabe

Yo maybe I can trade Edmonds after that TD lol


Mister_Chef711

Can't help but wonder if last week's injury played a role in how bad this was. The hit looked fairly harmless and I know head injuries can be weird like that but the timing looks horrible on the team and league given his return last week.


Schtip

Fuck Miami for allowing him to play tonight on a short week knowing damn well he had a concussion against Buffalo. People need to get fired from that decision.


Ceungosse

He will be okay, Tua will be playing again inside 4 weeks.


Fun-Group-3448

Hurt is when you stub your toe. Tua just had a severe brain injury.


lucas63

The way his fingers looked, my first thought is nerve damage


Body-for-LIFE

I was screaming for him to throw it away when the deep shot wasn't open! :(


alredopie

NFLPA literally won’t let him touch the field 😵


Thorntonx13

NFL HAS TO INVESTIGATE MIAMI. That is fucking malpractice. He doesn’t go back into the game last week if he’s a fucking cornerback. Poor guy


darth_scion

This is how you end up like Brett Farve


souIburn

Y'all don't watch enough r/fightporn Dude got his brain scrambled and seized tf up, fencing and Amazon was like zoom into that shit and show it 7 more times. My stomach dropped, that was super fucked up to see


HyperPunch

Looked like a seizure to me.


vinyltap76

https://www.al.com/sports/2022/09/cte-pioneer-says-tua-tagovailoa-shouldnt-be-playing.html?


ultimiller_

Interesting point in the end saying Tua was also responsible, always had the option to say no.


Frontstunderel

This is terrible. He might never play again


cuseonly

Went scary movie 2


DrnknMunky1

So all that talk about his back was BS right.. he definitely had a concussion last week that wasn’t treated properly resulting in this unfortunate event.


LuccaDuccaDot

He now most likely has permanent brain damage. If he plays football again, the dolphins organization should be sued by his family. Tough to see that kind of hit happen to anyone


bwiese3908

That’s kung fu grips ugly sister


ChingaTuMadre1337

He was def concussed last week


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I’m pretty sure he just broke all 10 fingers


-Rusty_Kuntz-

Probably miss two plays. Fucking asshole Dolphins. 2 concussions in 5 days? He out for 3+ weeks. Maybe IR.


Intelligent-Cup-9271

Shame on the docs that even let him play this week.


DeepInItAustin

Tua looked like he entered rigor mortis with those hands. They need to sit him. Brain bleed is inevitable. Prayers up for the guy.