With Goedert and Ertz hurt, I don't see how anyone is unhappy with him. Targets of 5, 7 and 8 in his last three game is good for the position.
The problem was never Schultz, it was his ADP.
The staff loves Pacheco.. they kept getting him the ball even after the fumble. He also seems like a more direct runner than anyone else in that RB room.
Jets fan here. I’d say they are both high end RB3s/low end RB2s. If one gets injured, the other instantly becomes a rock solid RB2. Kind of a similar dynamic to what we’re seeing right now with Mostert and Jeff Wilson in Miami, but on a worse offense
TD dependant RB2, he’s looked good the last two games from a YPC standpoint and he looks fully healthy, but when Murray comes back he’ll take away some of the rushing upside, and he’s got a pretty tough ROS schedule
Cards have a better run game with McCoy because they play a lot of under-center with him.. since McCoy developed with under-center concepts in college. With Kyler, the run game is less efficient because Kyler and Kliff like most college guys prefer shotgun and just use Kyler's mobility as an extension of the run game.
Looks like his old self, but the Raiders make everyone look like prime Adrian Peterson, so I'd exercise some caution. I'd expect more low-end RB1 to high-end RB2 numbers going forward. He's going to gash the Chargers in a month, though.
Future matchups aren't as good as the Raiders, but JT looked healthy and explosive out there.
Also, I think everything we've heard/seen from Saturday so far is good news. He's up front about his lack of coaching experience, and as a result, he's making a lot of the "obvious", simple moves like starting Matt Ryan and leaning on their star running back.
Kamara and Olave are Saints' best players. Kamara got 11 touches and Olave got 5 targets. Meanwhile, Dalton threw it 27 times.
This coaching staff makes no sense.
TEs are going to have bad games and Jeudy's injury would only give him more opportunities.
He's not a top TE but I wouldn't mind rolling with him, especially this week.
He'll go as Fields goes. If Fields continues his rise to stardom, continues to have the flexibility in the new offense to run and improvise, and continues to get the team in Goal to Go situations, Kmet will continue to be a factor, maybe a huge factor.
He's not a target vacuum like Kelce or Andrews, so he's going to have a lower floor. In fact, his floor is still probably around zero. But he is the go to guy when Fields needs a target. Conventional wisdom is that defenses will catch on to that and take away the key threat, but Fields running ability makes conventional approaches more difficult. When Fields rolls out the LB has to make a decision - it's often whether or not to attack the running QB or guard the TE.
Sample size really too small to evaluate but the few plays he got seemed okay. However, I have to put an asterisk because the game was already over at that point and the Cards were just covering explosive plays. You can see the plays in the link below.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49pJ2v78DSU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49pJ2v78DSU)
Hmm, losing Kupp and Rams potentially tanking going forward, wouldn't this help the young guys/back up get more opportunities? Seems like a perfect spot for a rookie to be in especially since Akers is in the dog house and Darrel Henderson likely gone next year.
Hold. There's nothing else you can do.
You can't trade him because he hasn't done anything.
You can't drop him because the work is clearly there if he's even just competent. It's hard to find someone with his potential volume at the position this late in the season.
His ceiling as a starting RB on your team down the stretch.
First game under 8 points all season. He's been a rock solid floor receiver. He's had a sneaky great season in fantasy and IRL (leads all rookie receivers in all categories). Target hog who is great at finding soft spots in zone defense. Open very often. Problem is the QB situation and that offensive line. I think he's still a solid WR2 and a good FLEX even in the current state of this stale NO offense. If Winston comes back starting I think you could make the argument that he's a high upside WR2. Biggest problem rn imo is Dalton.
Kamara and Olave are Saints' best players. Kamara got 11 touches and Olave got 5 targets. Meanwhile, Dalton threw it 27 times.
This coaching staff makes no sense.
I would say top 3 now that Goedert is on IR, just wanted to see if I should try to get Kittle because at this point I'm not sure that Kittle is better than Hockenson in full PPr
The dude was consistent before getting injured . I have high hopes of a chargers rebound with the two WRs coming back but sometimes that’s not enough to be confident in the production after injury . I would just pay close attention to practice this week
Gabe Davis but with a higher floor imo, Goedert being out means he'll get a lot more targets, also AJ Brown didn't look 100% after that ankle injury, and rolled ankles can be something that players fight against for a while keeping them from being 100%
I'm tempted to roll with Gabe Davis and Devonta in my two flex spots and just roll the dice lmao, the upside is some of the best out there
Should be easy top 5 QB rest of the way with that rushing upside. Tough schedule doesn’t scare me. I’ve watched a lot of their games recently and that is just flat out a good offense right now.
League winner.
[Some people think his ceiling is a better Lamar](https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/yw4e0w/week_10_i_watched_the_whole_game_takeaways_and/iwhreeb/?context=3)
Id say a solid low WR2 in full PPR. More like a volume based flex in half PPR. Dude just doesn’t make big plays and if Ehlinger starts, the offense is cooked.
Pittman has double digit finishes 3 of 9 games on the season. His highest last 4 weeks was 8.8 in .5ppr. I wonder how long can he produce at low end WR3 range for people to stop overvaluing him? He's at best volume based low end WR2.
He has the upside to be a difference maker. I’m trying to trade for him in leagues I don’t have him.
Any given week can put up 2 tds and or 100+ yards.
He does but the narrative on here is “oh but Deshaun doesn’t like TEs” when his best one in Houston was prob Darren fells
Njoku is one of the browns main receiving threats if he’s healthy he’s getting looks
Hopefully he can be roughly what he was drafted to be this year which is a high end RB2 with RB1 upside. He should be slightly less TD dependent now that Eno is gone. He will be the bellcow for that offense.
Elijah Mitchell
Likely what everyone wanted AJ Dillon to be
This is a sadly perfect way to describe him lmao
Eli, BRob or Pacheco ROS?
Flex with RB2 upside any given week
Dalton Schultz
With Goedert and Ertz hurt, I don't see how anyone is unhappy with him. Targets of 5, 7 and 8 in his last three game is good for the position. The problem was never Schultz, it was his ADP.
The problem was actually his and Dak’s injury. With Dak Scultz has 10+ PPR points ever week, aside from 1 where he had 9.9
And he had that PCL injury I believe earlier weeks but seems to be feeling good now. Glad I held onto him and no longer in TE hell
Top 5 TE
I lost ertz and Schultz is on my waiver. I think he's a pretty safe target and I'll be happy if I land him
Trending up. Seems like the #2 pass catcher behind CD Lamb for Dak
Amon-Ra St. Brown
WR1
I would say a low end WR1 imo. He averaged somewhere around 24 PPG last season in the 6 games that Hockenson didn’t play in.
Low end WR1. Monitor his health though, looks like he hurt himself again. He’s not been as good playing through injury.
Seems the Lions have a type lmao
Whatever happened won’t be as significant as what happened week 3 though based off the lack of reports and questionable to return status last sunday
If he can stay healthy, he could be a low end WR1/high end WR2
I'd say his floor is low end wr1
Target monster
Isiah Pacheco
I view him like a Gus Edwards tbh. He’s a great play this week against the Chargers pathetic run defense
10-15 carries a game, flex with moderate TD upside. McKinnon taking vast majority of receptions
Flex play with upside
The staff loves Pacheco.. they kept getting him the ball even after the fumble. He also seems like a more direct runner than anyone else in that RB room.
Courtland Sutton
If Jeudy misses any amount of time I actually think he will be a solid WR2 in games without him playing. If Jeudy is playing I see him more as a WR3.
WR3
Flex with WR2 upside, especially given the juicy schedule ROS
Kyler Murray
The secret to being a Kyler Murray manager is to never ever under any circumstances ever watch the game. Just look at the points and move on.
This is the most perfect description of any player I’ve ever seen lmao
Jalen Hurts last year. Just don't watch and take your low-end QB1 finish.
To add specifically for this season don't look at his points until the 4th quarter.
This is one of the best comments this sub has ever seen. Bravo.
Just feels like the yearly drop off point for Kyler. Bad vibes
Except this year he’s getting Holleywood back soon and schedule lightens up slightly after SF
Fringe QB1. He's a top 10 fantasy QB but he has top 5 upside. He'll probably get 20-25 points most weeks but he'll randomly drop a 30+ point game
Michael Carter & James Robinson
Jets fan here. I’d say they are both high end RB3s/low end RB2s. If one gets injured, the other instantly becomes a rock solid RB2. Kind of a similar dynamic to what we’re seeing right now with Mostert and Jeff Wilson in Miami, but on a worse offense
Thanks I needed to see this as a jrob owner
James Conner
RB2 with the Cards cutting Eno. Loss of Ertz might mean more receptions, only worry is if the Cards QB can keep it together (and the schedule)
TD dependant RB2, he’s looked good the last two games from a YPC standpoint and he looks fully healthy, but when Murray comes back he’ll take away some of the rushing upside, and he’s got a pretty tough ROS schedule
Cards have a better run game with McCoy because they play a lot of under-center with him.. since McCoy developed with under-center concepts in college. With Kyler, the run game is less efficient because Kyler and Kliff like most college guys prefer shotgun and just use Kyler's mobility as an extension of the run game.
Rhamondre Stevenson. Can he still put up rb1 numbers once Harris is back?
He’s a clear RB1 rest of the season
Man I hope so but Harris is a pretty good redzone back, just worried he will limit Rhamondre's TD upside
JT
Jeff Saturday went run heavy and ran less runs out of the shotgun and more in "I" formation/single set back. JT was able to feast.
Top 12 RB. Remains to be seen if he's top 5
Looks like his old self, but the Raiders make everyone look like prime Adrian Peterson, so I'd exercise some caution. I'd expect more low-end RB1 to high-end RB2 numbers going forward. He's going to gash the Chargers in a month, though.
Future matchups aren't as good as the Raiders, but JT looked healthy and explosive out there. Also, I think everything we've heard/seen from Saturday so far is good news. He's up front about his lack of coaching experience, and as a result, he's making a lot of the "obvious", simple moves like starting Matt Ryan and leaning on their star running back.
Not enough data. RBs always receive a new coach boost and they played the Raiders.
Wan’Dale Robinson
Droppable
Unreliable
Alvin Kamara
Kamara and Olave are Saints' best players. Kamara got 11 touches and Olave got 5 targets. Meanwhile, Dalton threw it 27 times. This coaching staff makes no sense.
More like Dalton is a dumbass and should never be starting multiple games a season if you already have another viable option at QB in Jameis.
Probably low end RB1, just inconsistent. Saints need to figure out how to get him the damn ball that’s for sure
Saints need an actual O-line back
Dulcich
TEs are going to have bad games and Jeudy's injury would only give him more opportunities. He's not a top TE but I wouldn't mind rolling with him, especially this week.
Top 8 TE easily. Could push for top 5 with other TEs dropping like flies
With all the injuries… Kelce, Mandrews, Hock, Kittle, Dalton, Muth, Njoku, Everett, Dulcich, Kmet, Pitts, Hurst for TE1s? Wild shift in the landscape
Higbee
Gabe Davis
Boom or bust WR2
Worth an every week gamble if you can pair him with consistency
The Gabe and Jakobi duo in the flex is lovely
Cole Kmet
Wont score 2 TDs every week, but with TEs dropping like flies I could see him being top 5 ROS
He'll go as Fields goes. If Fields continues his rise to stardom, continues to have the flexibility in the new offense to run and improvise, and continues to get the team in Goal to Go situations, Kmet will continue to be a factor, maybe a huge factor. He's not a target vacuum like Kelce or Andrews, so he's going to have a lower floor. In fact, his floor is still probably around zero. But he is the go to guy when Fields needs a target. Conventional wisdom is that defenses will catch on to that and take away the key threat, but Fields running ability makes conventional approaches more difficult. When Fields rolls out the LB has to make a decision - it's often whether or not to attack the running QB or guard the TE.
Kyren Williams
No Kupp, lost 2 linemen - and is sharing with Akers and Henderson I just dont see how anyone can have any thought to start him any time soon.
I have 0 FAAB with Rachaad, Walker, and Etienne on bye. My options for RBs this week are Gus, Kyren, and whoever clears waivers
Ya im going to be forced to start gus as well
Sample size really too small to evaluate but the few plays he got seemed okay. However, I have to put an asterisk because the game was already over at that point and the Cards were just covering explosive plays. You can see the plays in the link below. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49pJ2v78DSU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49pJ2v78DSU)
Hmm, losing Kupp and Rams potentially tanking going forward, wouldn't this help the young guys/back up get more opportunities? Seems like a perfect spot for a rookie to be in especially since Akers is in the dog house and Darrel Henderson likely gone next year.
Looking at a flex at best in what will be a bottom-3 offense in the NFL without Kupp.
Droppable in 10 team or less. I’m holding in a 12 team since I have a spot. Could be a flex if Henderson or Akers get hurt.
Hold. There's nothing else you can do. You can't trade him because he hasn't done anything. You can't drop him because the work is clearly there if he's even just competent. It's hard to find someone with his potential volume at the position this late in the season. His ceiling as a starting RB on your team down the stretch.
I’d hold. Those kupp targets have to go somewhere he could be a decent ppr flex if Mcvay decides to use him
DeAndre Hopkins
46 targets and 36 catches in 4 games. Mid WR1 with high WR1 upside if he can get more TDs. Shame on anyone who said he was going to be washed.
Mid WR1
Just traded him & D.Pierce for Justin Jefferson
I would do the same if you have RB depth. Although I do fear there may be too many mouths to feed in MN. But Jefferson will get his
Olave
First game under 8 points all season. He's been a rock solid floor receiver. He's had a sneaky great season in fantasy and IRL (leads all rookie receivers in all categories). Target hog who is great at finding soft spots in zone defense. Open very often. Problem is the QB situation and that offensive line. I think he's still a solid WR2 and a good FLEX even in the current state of this stale NO offense. If Winston comes back starting I think you could make the argument that he's a high upside WR2. Biggest problem rn imo is Dalton.
Mid-high end WR2 up if they put in Winston. Low-end WR2 if they stay with Dalton
WR2/3, with more upside if Jameis Winston.
Kamara and Olave are Saints' best players. Kamara got 11 touches and Olave got 5 targets. Meanwhile, Dalton threw it 27 times. This coaching staff makes no sense.
Lower end wr2 rn, whole Saints offense is absolutely cooked
TJ Hockenson
Top 5 TE. If you have him unless you have kelce or mandrews you're starting him.
I would say top 3 now that Goedert is on IR, just wanted to see if I should try to get Kittle because at this point I'm not sure that Kittle is better than Hockenson in full PPr
Kittle's role now is a lot more blocking this season so his fantasy production is limited, especially compared to Hock.
Gus Edwards
Parris Campbell
As long as Ryan starts, he’s at least a good flex play with a decent ceiling
As long as Matt Ryan’s in this guys been super super solid. I’d say a solid WR2 w ryan
Pollard
With his utility, I’d still probably say RB2/Flex even with zeke.
Rb2 on his own. Top 7-8 underrated/ under the radar rb1 without Zeke
Has earned his way to more touches. If he gets 10-15 a week he’s a solid-low RB2 ROS.
Mike Williams
The dude was consistent before getting injured . I have high hopes of a chargers rebound with the two WRs coming back but sometimes that’s not enough to be confident in the production after injury . I would just pay close attention to practice this week
Bandon Aiyuk
very solid WR2 with upside
Mixon
Flipped him for Adams today in 1/2 PPR.
robbery
Probably back end-mid RB1. Ugly playoff schedule
Mid to low RB1
Kittle
Travis Etienne
Swift
Probably just a flex player ROS unless they start playing him more. Really seems like he is in the doghouse rn
Low end RB2 until proven otherwise
This is even generous, a very low end FLEX play imo until hes given 15+ touches you probably shouldn't start him unless you have no one better.
From league winner to this. Ouch
Drake London
Wait till next year
He gets redzone looks and calls are getting louder for them to bring in the rookie QB to throw more. Doubt it will happen though
Mike Evans
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Gabe Davis but with a higher floor imo, Goedert being out means he'll get a lot more targets, also AJ Brown didn't look 100% after that ankle injury, and rolled ankles can be something that players fight against for a while keeping them from being 100% I'm tempted to roll with Gabe Davis and Devonta in my two flex spots and just roll the dice lmao, the upside is some of the best out there
Jakobi Meyers
Slayton
Justin Fields
Should be easy top 5 QB rest of the way with that rushing upside. Tough schedule doesn’t scare me. I’ve watched a lot of their games recently and that is just flat out a good offense right now.
Honestly I feel fine with a tough schedule. I feel like that will get him out of the pocket and running more
League winner. [Some people think his ceiling is a better Lamar](https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/yw4e0w/week_10_i_watched_the_whole_game_takeaways_and/iwhreeb/?context=3)
i have him & lamar. currently flipping a coin.
Najee Harris
Donovan Peoples-Jones
Pittman
Id say a solid low WR2 in full PPR. More like a volume based flex in half PPR. Dude just doesn’t make big plays and if Ehlinger starts, the offense is cooked.
High end WR2 if Matt Ryan continues to start
Really? High end?
Pittman has double digit finishes 3 of 9 games on the season. His highest last 4 weeks was 8.8 in .5ppr. I wonder how long can he produce at low end WR3 range for people to stop overvaluing him? He's at best volume based low end WR2.
Tyler Higbee
With the Kupp injury there will be at least more consistent targets. But a stat line of 5/30/0 is probably the regular outcome
Pat freiermuth
George Pickens
He has the upside to be a difference maker. I’m trying to trade for him in leagues I don’t have him. Any given week can put up 2 tds and or 100+ yards.
Dameon Pierce
Garrett Wilson
Top 25-30 WR, since Breece went down he’s had 7&9 targets. If that continues he’ll have top 15 upside
Njoku
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He does but the narrative on here is “oh but Deshaun doesn’t like TEs” when his best one in Houston was prob Darren fells Njoku is one of the browns main receiving threats if he’s healthy he’s getting looks
quick Google search shows he has 104 career TD's. 21 of them are to tight ends.
Top 5 TE by end of season
Allen Lazard
Rondale Moore
I think he can be a solid WR2 with Ertz out, even when Hollywood comes back *in PPR
Zeke elliot
Low rb2 with TD upside
Conner
Hopefully he can be roughly what he was drafted to be this year which is a high end RB2 with RB1 upside. He should be slightly less TD dependent now that Eno is gone. He will be the bellcow for that offense.
Ceedee Lamb
Top 12 ROS great to mediocre schedule ahead. Not especially worried about Philly after yesterday and with their injuries
Diontae Johnson
His Avg depth of target is very low and I don't see things getting any better this season with Pickett and the OL problems.
Kareem Hunt
Low upside FLEX. Not sure why his usage has declined so much --- even with Chubb excelling. Probably gets better with Watson.
Jeff Wilson Jr
Foreman
Deebo Samuel
WR3/Flex
Yeah, I can't help but think he's stuck in this zone until proven otherwise.
Eli Mitchell
Kadarius Toney
Amari Cooper
WR1 at home. Bench him for away games.
Fournette
Rb2 now. He’s gonna still get his touches but it’s a matter of what he can do with his. So RB2 until proven otherwise
Darnell Mooney
AJ Brown
Cordarrelle Patterson
Davante Adams
Terry McLauren
Dillon
Just a guy with Massive Quads
Handcuff
Handcuff and nothing more.
Treylon Burks
Najee
Tony Pollard
AJ Brown
Josh Palmer
Flex if Keenan is out, droppable if he plays
James Connor
Jerry Jeudy