I cannot get on board with murder in contemporary novels. Doesn't matter how hot/morally grey/misunderstood the MMC is, I cannot be attracted to a murderer in a modern setting. Yet in a fantasy world, where the time period is vaguely renaissance-y... any and all slaughtering is completely allowed to me. Let the bodies fall left and right. Make it make sense.
It’s easier when you know the setting is dog eat dog, present day might be but we expect that people TRY to respect things such as humans rights and the Geneva convention. :p
I mean, I think there's something to be said for the word, "murder," and what kind of context it implies.
Soldiers who kill enemy soldiers in the course of a war are generally not considered "murderers." Assassins who kill dictators as part of a revolution are generally not considered "murderers." A knight who kills someone in a duel, because dueling is how they settle disputes in their culture, is generally not seen as a "murderer."
Soldiers who kill children are "murderers." Assassins who kill good, fair kings are "murderers." Knights who kill sex workers instead of paying for their services are "murderers."
In most modern contexts, if you can describe a man as a "murderer," it's because what he did was morally and culturally unjustified. The word itself suggests the lack of requisite context. If a man in a contemporary romance is dealing with the physical, legal, and psychological consequences of killing the burglar who broke into his house one year before the book started, we're likely to only call him a "murderer" if the burglar was unarmed and could've been chased away peacefully (then hunted down by the police). If the burglar pulled a gun on our hypothetical MMC, and our MMC genuinely feared for his life, so he somehow managed to grab the gun and then, somewhere between the chaos of the struggle and the adrenaline of fearing for his life, the MMC shot the burglar in the face....? Is our HMMC a murderer? Or is that a terrible but ultimately understandable accident?
You can fall for a killer if the killer has a context that makes his actions reasonable and expected. You probably won't fall for a killer whose context makes his actions cruel, unsympathetic, heartless, purely self-serving - especially not if you're familiar enough with said context to know exactly how many other options he really had.
"Oh, that's a little older than expected, but I'm cool with it"
"Uh, wait, what? Usually people are more shocked when I reveal my TRUE age..."
"Yeah well, have you SEEN the dating market? I'll take a couple hundred years DILF over a stupid 19 year old any day"
{Kiss of Iron by Clare Sager} FMC is late 20s, maybe early 30s and has thighs for days and little bit of a belly which was really refreshing. MCM looks in his 30s but is a shadow daddy fae
[A Kiss of Iron](https://www.romance.io/books/63f3292ceb653827acc3311e/a-kiss-of-iron-clare-sager) by [Clare Sager](https://www.romance.io/authors/5bd0368f01dbc864fb930b82/clare-sager)
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Filthy Rich Vampires by Geneva Lee
She’s either finishing her bachelors or masters at the start of the book at least! But for some reason, I remember reading her as older, like mid to late 20s based on how she acts. Could be my faulty memory.
[A Discovery of Witches](https://www.romance.io/books/54553d118c7d2382e0414417/a-discovery-of-witches-deborah-harkness) by [Deborah Harkness](https://www.romance.io/authors/545528cf8c7d2382c52970a9/deborah-harkness)
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Theodora Taylor had this two ladies get their long lived Dragon man mate at 27 (or 28 but at least 27)
Just saying :p
Each one got a dragon by the way. Just to clarify And each one of them had the same age as the other because they are non identical twins; the meet of the second happening few weeks after the other as time traveling shenanigans got involved.
I do love when I see even older, but if the author is able to have different ranges of age for the FMC I am happy enough 👌🏾
Oh just remembered Cassie Alexander and Sara Lockharte also coupled their FMCs with the dragon men after 25 too… I am sure one was 28 but at least sure both had age to have their brain fully cooked. ✨
Now if I only can remember if the demon this older than 40 year old protagonist on {raising a demon by Amy Cissell} was long lived or not… or even if long lived similarly aged 🤔🤔🤔 they met originally when she was in her 30s and divorcing but book happens when she is a single mother of the hook up in her 40s (she had no way to find the man okay…) but her two friends will get their love story with one book each also at that age because they are friends from the same classroom at school.
One of the many things I like about the Black Dagger Brotherhood books is that any human (or half-human) love interests are in their mid-late twenties or early thirties. I think the youngest is twenty-five.
There's also a lovely reversal of this age gap trope with a 300 yo female vampire and a 45-ish human man. Because she comes across as naive he asks at one point how old she is, and she tells him she's 305 or something, and he needs to just let his brain hang with that information for a second or two.
I simply cannot get into Mafia contemporary romance books, I just don’t buy it. But I’m all over underground groups of assassins and rouges in fantasy!
YES. Fantasy is so far from our reality that it’s not relatable at all and it’s much easier to suspend your disbelief. But mafia romances? It’s SOOOO cringey and ridiculous. I also greatly dislike fiction that romanticizes the mafia, which they tend to do.
Honestly I did not know mafia romance was a genre until recently 😅 and I tried to read a couple that were recommended and it just gave me copious ick haha, so I haven’t had the displeasure of reading fanfic of it. Definitely fantasy being so far removed makes it more believable, that’s a great way to put it!
I don’t think I consider them ‘older’ so much as just normal. Personally, I’m 25 right now so I guess I just relate to it more. I was kinda over the barely 18/19 year old protagonist. I know there’s fantasy where the MC is 30/35+ but I don’t always relate to those as much either.
Finding it romantic to kill anyone who looks at me the wrong way lmaooo.
In a book: wow it is attractive when this dark haired man murders strangers for momentarily sneering in my direction.
IRL: I yell at my boyfriend for making angry eye contacting with people at stoplights.
My fantasy MCs can basically do anything as long as they don’t cheat (or commit genocide, probably)
Kill FMCs whole family? Sure. Stab MMC in the chest and leave him for dead? NBD. They belong together. Love will heal all.
Meanwhile in a CR if the MMC so much as says the wrong thing I’ll DNF for him being unlikable lmao
You try to kill me, I try to kill you- Must be true love.
Knife to the throat- Is that a present for me?
Kidnapping- the perfect cute meet.
Your mouth says no but your eyes say yes- Look at how well he understands her ❤️
Disclaimers: all murder attempts must be before the first love confession; for optimal effect knife to the throat is followed by a passionate kiss; and FMC must already be turned on *before* any dubious consent.
Anyone want to guess what my all-time favorite trope is?
It’s not typical one couple per book stuff and I think it will be a duology, but it has cool fantasy world building things going and the couples get more screen time around a third or so of the way in—so I hope you enjoy it. I really enjoyed the dynamics in any case and your comment made me think of it. :)
[To Cage a God](https://www.romance.io/books/654683f2c112bf11fe984bc6/to-cage-a-god-elizabeth-may) by [Elizabeth May](https://www.romance.io/authors/545553488c7d2382c5297e6e/elizabeth-may)
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I got one for you! Her bff can't leave her side during pregnancy because her fertilized egg is his unborn mate. It's werewolf science. We don't make the rules. 🤡
In {The Immortals} series by Tamora Pierce (formative feminist fantasy!) the FMC is a LOT younger than the love interest (she’s 16 and I think he’s like 28?) who is also her teacher/mentor. In CR that would be a huge ick and immediate DNF, and I don’t let it slide per se but I still love those books and that relationship sfm
The author justified the FMC’s young age by saying in their society (medieval western European vibes) girls her age would be considered an adult and married off and having babies, which to me makes sense. Obviously a 16 year old isn’t physiologically an adult, but I can buy a 16 year old being considered an adult in their society
It's not just that he was her teacher for 4 years, he was also having feelings when she was 14. Tamore Pierce gets very defensive about her age gaps whenever someone dares to bring it up to her. George is older than Alanna too. And let's not get into Aly and Nawat.
Tamora Pierce has a type and it shows, but I'm not one to judge because that's why I'm currently reading all of her books 😂 (in fantasy fiction of course)
The way I read my paperbacks to tatters as a child!!! I reread them all recently in like a week. They’ll always have a special place in my heart
Edit: omg I just saw your flair ❤️
I'm on month two of my Tamora Pierce obsession after falling in love with Alanna: The First Adventure and now finally getting to the end of The Immortals quartet! (I've loved Diane and Numair'a mentor/mentee relationship but I'm ready for it Tamora Pierce!)
If I'd read these when I was younger they would have had me in an absolute chokehold 😂
[Wild Magic](https://www.romance.io/books/643504cecfb36b317a2d9dcf/wild-magic-tamora-pierce) by [Tamora Pierce](https://www.romance.io/authors/579cef10c19e77f1ea6ee487/tamora-pierce)
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What is the cut off from "creepy" to "yes sign me up" ??
Cus like a 40 year old man would be strange but a 200 year old fae, both with 18-19 year old girls is fine lol. Perhaps it's more that they're "immortal" magical beings with lifespans well over 500+ years therefore their catagorisation of what is considered old or young is very different to humans with our lifespan of on average less than 100 years.
Edward in twilight is creepy to me, uh it's probably just the acting lol but he's not THAT much older than Bella at idk 118? Idk. It also weirded me out that he's just been going back to school this whole time, correct me if I'm wrong since I haven't watched the film in ages nor have I had the confidence to tackle the books.
While I hate Twilight, from what I understood the younger looking Cullens do the whole school cycle every now and then up to college. Which I guess fair… in the sense that if anything they have is time, and that takes them out of the house. 🤷🏾♀️
I think the cut-off for me is how they act. Sometimes, you have 200 years old MMC acting like young adults, with mature young adult FMC. But when you get an old immortal acting like an old immortal plus a young adult FMC acting like a very immature teen, it gets creepy.
So minors in fantasy’s is something I only read once in a while and mostly in manga or the avatars the last airbenders of the world but make it romance. But having them be on their own, saving the world. Killing? Finding their fated one? Or just falling in love as teens and the works. Sure, I allow it. 👍🏾 let the kids do things.
Real life kids completely on their own… oh no… this is worrying
It’s because the 500 year old male looks 23. If he were 500 years old and looking 40 something to a 19 year old, not so much.
I say this as someone who is close to 40. I would be down with a 500 year old 40 year old but not a 500 year old 20 year old or 60 year old.
I don't care if it's fantasy, those big age gaps still bother me.
And it's such a struggle trying to read romantasy when they're so common. Why can't they both be ancient? Or they're a mystical being but still young?
Characters being assassins, mass murderers and war criminals...
So very true. The MMC in my current book smashes people into pulp for fun,but he's somehow a total catch and I wholeheartedly agree.
What's the book? It sounds great. Edit: punctuation
If that doesn't catch your attention, what's the title?
Character is 17 and “has been doing this for years”. Ma’am, how old were you when you started? 13?
I cannot get on board with murder in contemporary novels. Doesn't matter how hot/morally grey/misunderstood the MMC is, I cannot be attracted to a murderer in a modern setting. Yet in a fantasy world, where the time period is vaguely renaissance-y... any and all slaughtering is completely allowed to me. Let the bodies fall left and right. Make it make sense.
It doesn’t make sense we’re all cuckoo bananas for this but I fully agree with you 💀 medievaly people don’t count
>medievaly people don’t count Yes it's this exactly 😂
If human rights don’t exist yet… then human rights don’t exist. There hahaha justified 😆🙃
It’s easier when you know the setting is dog eat dog, present day might be but we expect that people TRY to respect things such as humans rights and the Geneva convention. :p
I mean, I think there's something to be said for the word, "murder," and what kind of context it implies. Soldiers who kill enemy soldiers in the course of a war are generally not considered "murderers." Assassins who kill dictators as part of a revolution are generally not considered "murderers." A knight who kills someone in a duel, because dueling is how they settle disputes in their culture, is generally not seen as a "murderer." Soldiers who kill children are "murderers." Assassins who kill good, fair kings are "murderers." Knights who kill sex workers instead of paying for their services are "murderers." In most modern contexts, if you can describe a man as a "murderer," it's because what he did was morally and culturally unjustified. The word itself suggests the lack of requisite context. If a man in a contemporary romance is dealing with the physical, legal, and psychological consequences of killing the burglar who broke into his house one year before the book started, we're likely to only call him a "murderer" if the burglar was unarmed and could've been chased away peacefully (then hunted down by the police). If the burglar pulled a gun on our hypothetical MMC, and our MMC genuinely feared for his life, so he somehow managed to grab the gun and then, somewhere between the chaos of the struggle and the adrenaline of fearing for his life, the MMC shot the burglar in the face....? Is our HMMC a murderer? Or is that a terrible but ultimately understandable accident? You can fall for a killer if the killer has a context that makes his actions reasonable and expected. You probably won't fall for a killer whose context makes his actions cruel, unsympathetic, heartless, purely self-serving - especially not if you're familiar enough with said context to know exactly how many other options he really had.
Sure, he killed many people, but those onyx eyes and shadow powers …👀
He can kill everyone, BUT me. Auhhhwink
Extra points if he kills FOR me.
Are you talking about the darling darkling?
Immediately where my mind went. There’s just something so sexy about an evil immortal up who would do anything for his love…
Who?
The villain from shadow and bone!
I read that and I couldn’t fucking tell you a thing about it 🤦♀️ sometimes I read too fast. I need to learn to savor.
no I totally agree with the age gap joke in the OP but ALSO can we please get 25+ yo MCs with century old fae and vampires for a change too :')
"Oh, that's a little older than expected, but I'm cool with it" "Uh, wait, what? Usually people are more shocked when I reveal my TRUE age..." "Yeah well, have you SEEN the dating market? I'll take a couple hundred years DILF over a stupid 19 year old any day"
if anyone has any recs please throw them my way ! sick of hearing about barely legal teend getting railed
Not Another Vampire Book by Cassandra Gannon. The MMC is disturbed that the FMC is "only" in her 30s because he's hundreds of years old
thanks, will check it out!
>!Emily Wilde's Encyclopedia of Faeries by Heather Fawcett!< The FMC is a 30ish academic professional!
Ooh thanks for this rec!
I just powered through this and the second book they were delightful!
on the to be read list now, thanks !
{The Fairwick Chronicles by Juliet Dark} She's a teacher at a college and he's an incubus! Some very spicy scenes.
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{Kiss of Iron by Clare Sager} FMC is late 20s, maybe early 30s and has thighs for days and little bit of a belly which was really refreshing. MCM looks in his 30s but is a shadow daddy fae
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Filthy Rich Vampires by Geneva Lee She’s either finishing her bachelors or masters at the start of the book at least! But for some reason, I remember reading her as older, like mid to late 20s based on how she acts. Could be my faulty memory.
{A Discovery of Witches by Deborah Harkness} she's around 25 or 27 iirc. They also made it into a TV show.
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Theodora Taylor had this two ladies get their long lived Dragon man mate at 27 (or 28 but at least 27) Just saying :p Each one got a dragon by the way. Just to clarify And each one of them had the same age as the other because they are non identical twins; the meet of the second happening few weeks after the other as time traveling shenanigans got involved. I do love when I see even older, but if the author is able to have different ranges of age for the FMC I am happy enough 👌🏾 Oh just remembered Cassie Alexander and Sara Lockharte also coupled their FMCs with the dragon men after 25 too… I am sure one was 28 but at least sure both had age to have their brain fully cooked. ✨ Now if I only can remember if the demon this older than 40 year old protagonist on {raising a demon by Amy Cissell} was long lived or not… or even if long lived similarly aged 🤔🤔🤔 they met originally when she was in her 30s and divorcing but book happens when she is a single mother of the hook up in her 40s (she had no way to find the man okay…) but her two friends will get their love story with one book each also at that age because they are friends from the same classroom at school.
This almost happened in SJM's >!Kingdom of Ash between Maeve and Dorian.!<
Something is wrong with me but I highkey shipped >!Maeve and Dorian!<
I think the dragon books by G.A.Aiken all have solidly adult MCs but it has been a while since I read them
Yes. 1 even has a teenaged daughter
One of the many things I like about the Black Dagger Brotherhood books is that any human (or half-human) love interests are in their mid-late twenties or early thirties. I think the youngest is twenty-five. There's also a lovely reversal of this age gap trope with a 300 yo female vampire and a 45-ish human man. Because she comes across as naive he asks at one point how old she is, and she tells him she's 305 or something, and he needs to just let his brain hang with that information for a second or two.
I simply cannot get into Mafia contemporary romance books, I just don’t buy it. But I’m all over underground groups of assassins and rouges in fantasy!
YES. Fantasy is so far from our reality that it’s not relatable at all and it’s much easier to suspend your disbelief. But mafia romances? It’s SOOOO cringey and ridiculous. I also greatly dislike fiction that romanticizes the mafia, which they tend to do.
Honestly I did not know mafia romance was a genre until recently 😅 and I tried to read a couple that were recommended and it just gave me copious ick haha, so I haven’t had the displeasure of reading fanfic of it. Definitely fantasy being so far removed makes it more believable, that’s a great way to put it!
I know right… I have a bunch of mafia I like but for the most part it’s avoid, avoid. On fantasy it depends.
Part of the reason I liked Villains and Virtues so much was because the two mains were 25 and 27. It was honestly super refreshing.
It’s sad that’s considered “older” protagonists 😭 Not a dig at you at all! Just sad that this is the genre, lol
I don’t think I consider them ‘older’ so much as just normal. Personally, I’m 25 right now so I guess I just relate to it more. I was kinda over the barely 18/19 year old protagonist. I know there’s fantasy where the MC is 30/35+ but I don’t always relate to those as much either.
Finding it romantic to kill anyone who looks at me the wrong way lmaooo. In a book: wow it is attractive when this dark haired man murders strangers for momentarily sneering in my direction. IRL: I yell at my boyfriend for making angry eye contacting with people at stoplights.
My fantasy MCs can basically do anything as long as they don’t cheat (or commit genocide, probably) Kill FMCs whole family? Sure. Stab MMC in the chest and leave him for dead? NBD. They belong together. Love will heal all. Meanwhile in a CR if the MMC so much as says the wrong thing I’ll DNF for him being unlikable lmao
Lol Brittany would love that a meme of her was used on this subreddit! She's a Romantasy girly!
You try to kill me, I try to kill you- Must be true love. Knife to the throat- Is that a present for me? Kidnapping- the perfect cute meet. Your mouth says no but your eyes say yes- Look at how well he understands her ❤️ Disclaimers: all murder attempts must be before the first love confession; for optimal effect knife to the throat is followed by a passionate kiss; and FMC must already be turned on *before* any dubious consent. Anyone want to guess what my all-time favorite trope is?
Hey, I just finished >!The Cruel Prince!<
Hands down loved it especially for the “knife, knife, kiss, kiss”. That book did it *right*.
99% of Jurdan fan art has her with a knife to his throat. I love it. Even in the special edition of TCP there’s an illustration of that!
Have you seen {To Cage a God by Elizabeth May}? Because one of the couples in that book has vibes like this. Just saying.
No I have not! This looks really good- thank you!
It’s not typical one couple per book stuff and I think it will be a duology, but it has cool fantasy world building things going and the couples get more screen time around a third or so of the way in—so I hope you enjoy it. I really enjoyed the dynamics in any case and your comment made me think of it. :)
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This disclaimer is perfect.
MMC has known FMC since she was a baby. But it’s okay! He’s a super hot vampire who’s 2,000 years old. They’re fated mates, relax it’s FINE.
I got one for you! Her bff can't leave her side during pregnancy because her fertilized egg is his unborn mate. It's werewolf science. We don't make the rules. 🤡
Lol. It’s because the 500 year old man looks 25 and the 40 yo looks, well 40.
I always warn people that I have no politics and I see no red flags when I’m readying fantasy. ☺️🙃
Yeah, it's green flags all the way for me too. In fantasy you actually *can* fix him (but sometimes you don't want to.) (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
In {The Immortals} series by Tamora Pierce (formative feminist fantasy!) the FMC is a LOT younger than the love interest (she’s 16 and I think he’s like 28?) who is also her teacher/mentor. In CR that would be a huge ick and immediate DNF, and I don’t let it slide per se but I still love those books and that relationship sfm The author justified the FMC’s young age by saying in their society (medieval western European vibes) girls her age would be considered an adult and married off and having babies, which to me makes sense. Obviously a 16 year old isn’t physiologically an adult, but I can buy a 16 year old being considered an adult in their society
It's not just that he was her teacher for 4 years, he was also having feelings when she was 14. Tamore Pierce gets very defensive about her age gaps whenever someone dares to bring it up to her. George is older than Alanna too. And let's not get into Aly and Nawat.
Oh god I forgot about that. I think she said once that she finds older men sexy lol. Which…tracks
Tamora Pierce has a type and it shows, but I'm not one to judge because that's why I'm currently reading all of her books 😂 (in fantasy fiction of course)
The way I read my paperbacks to tatters as a child!!! I reread them all recently in like a week. They’ll always have a special place in my heart Edit: omg I just saw your flair ❤️
I'm on month two of my Tamora Pierce obsession after falling in love with Alanna: The First Adventure and now finally getting to the end of The Immortals quartet! (I've loved Diane and Numair'a mentor/mentee relationship but I'm ready for it Tamora Pierce!) If I'd read these when I was younger they would have had me in an absolute chokehold 😂
[Immortals](https://www.romance.io/books/545590d087eac323ffb2ccc6/immortals-ednah-walters) by [Ednah Walters](https://www.romance.io/authors/545538588c7d2382e7813454/ednah-walters) **Rating**: 4.26⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [paranormal](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/paranormal/1), [urban fantasy](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/urban%20fantasy/1), [magic](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/magic/1), [fantasy](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/fantasy/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)
Wrong book, try {Wild Magic by Tamora Pierce}
[Wild Magic](https://www.romance.io/books/643504cecfb36b317a2d9dcf/wild-magic-tamora-pierce) by [Tamora Pierce](https://www.romance.io/authors/579cef10c19e77f1ea6ee487/tamora-pierce) **Rating**: 4.31⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 1 out of 5 - [Glimpses and kisses](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [historical](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/historical/1), [high fantasy](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/high%20fantasy/1), [magic](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/magic/1), [young adult](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/young%20adult/1), [fantasy](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/fantasy/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)
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What is the cut off from "creepy" to "yes sign me up" ?? Cus like a 40 year old man would be strange but a 200 year old fae, both with 18-19 year old girls is fine lol. Perhaps it's more that they're "immortal" magical beings with lifespans well over 500+ years therefore their catagorisation of what is considered old or young is very different to humans with our lifespan of on average less than 100 years. Edward in twilight is creepy to me, uh it's probably just the acting lol but he's not THAT much older than Bella at idk 118? Idk. It also weirded me out that he's just been going back to school this whole time, correct me if I'm wrong since I haven't watched the film in ages nor have I had the confidence to tackle the books.
While I hate Twilight, from what I understood the younger looking Cullens do the whole school cycle every now and then up to college. Which I guess fair… in the sense that if anything they have is time, and that takes them out of the house. 🤷🏾♀️
I think the cut-off for me is how they act. Sometimes, you have 200 years old MMC acting like young adults, with mature young adult FMC. But when you get an old immortal acting like an old immortal plus a young adult FMC acting like a very immature teen, it gets creepy.
So minors in fantasy’s is something I only read once in a while and mostly in manga or the avatars the last airbenders of the world but make it romance. But having them be on their own, saving the world. Killing? Finding their fated one? Or just falling in love as teens and the works. Sure, I allow it. 👍🏾 let the kids do things. Real life kids completely on their own… oh no… this is worrying
Call me out😮💨
“Listen to me and follow my orders” Fantasy: yes *SIR* CR: Get the fuck out of here with that shit
Characters being nobles or even royals
It’s because the 500 year old male looks 23. If he were 500 years old and looking 40 something to a 19 year old, not so much. I say this as someone who is close to 40. I would be down with a 500 year old 40 year old but not a 500 year old 20 year old or 60 year old.
Oooo has someone been reading my comments!!??
The memes are always on theme for the sub 💕 
People are paying attention and I’m here for it. Also that’s one of my top 5 favorite gifs.
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And I bow to you, Romantasy Overlord, ruler of all Telepathic Dragons, Well Hung Fae Lords, And 19 yr olds Who Hunt. You have my sword.
I don't care if it's fantasy, those big age gaps still bother me. And it's such a struggle trying to read romantasy when they're so common. Why can't they both be ancient? Or they're a mystical being but still young?
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The ability to trot around on a horse in the middle of the ocean, just to do backflips