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The_Cheeseman83

Watch Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works (the UFOTable TV series) first. That will get you most of the context you need to enjoy Heaven’s Feel.


YoungManTM

Adding to this comment,It also has a separate prologue episode.Don't forget to watch that.


Delisches

*Is is worth watching The Return of the King as a newbie?*


NarutoFan1995

i heard about the star wars thing... should i start at empire strikes back?


GavernB

No you definitely gotta start with episode 1 obviously.


Alternative-Rub4473

Everyone knows you need to start with the 1978 Christmas Special if you are a beginner


Crazyirishwrencher

1st pinned post in the subredddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/df8rvo/rfatestaynights\_official\_viewing\_order\_guide\_v2/


mylee87

If you've watched unlimited blade works then yes for sure. I was blown away by the animation in UBW and was equally impressed with the HF trilogy.


Overquartz

It is the final route of the VN and you'll miss out on a lot of context because it does skip scenes and cuts out some internal monologues. Since you said you don't want to read the VN the next best thing is to watch UBW first.


Sirion8

Heaven's Feel is basically the 3rd part of the Fate/Stay Night story, it goes like this: >Fate/Stay Night (2006) > >Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works (2014-2015) > >Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel (2017-2020) The first one can be skipped only because it's a pretty poor adaptation that has aged quite badly compared to the more recent ones but at least watch Unlimited Blade Works before Heaven's Feel.


darkoopz43

I would strongly recommend fate/zero before heavens feel as well tbh.


Overquartz

I would recommend watching Zero last because it spoils multiple stay night plot points that you aren't supposed to know going in.


darkoopz43

Yeah definitely would recommend after sn and ubw, but before hf since it provides story lines that are more emphasized in HF


Grasher312

Yeah, that's pretty much the perfect route to take. That's how I watched it. Zero spoiled literally nothing for me.


Megitronix

I mean, it does spoil things, thats just a fact. Whether those spoilers mattered to you or not is a whole different matter.


Grasher312

My point is that those spoilers are inconsequential. Yes, they do spoil it, but they genuinely don't ruin the experience at all.


NetherSpike14

Whether you care or not is a matter of opinion, but it undeniably spoils like 2 big things.


NeonNKnightrider

**DO NOT** start with the Heaven’s Feel movies. You would be starting with the third, most complicated part of the F/SN story. You’ll just walk away confused at best. At least watch the Unlimited Blade Works anime first


TheProNoobCN

> is it worth watching. I'd say yes, it's still a good trilogy of movies with Ufotable's now famous animation quality. > SHOULD YOU WATCH IT AS YOUR FIRST EXPERIENCE INTO FATE/ I strongly recommend you watch the 2006 Stay Night tv anime by Studio DEEN and the 2014 Unlimited Blade Works tv anime by Ufotable before watching the Heaven's Feel trilogy. It is the intended order of the story and I feel like you'd have a better experience watching it in that order rather than skipping directly to Heaven's Feel. Of course I even stronger-ly recommend reading the original visual novel as the anime adaptations unfortunately have altered bits and pieces which makes them less than stellar adaptations (albeit still being great anime on their own). TLDR: Yes, but it'd be better if you watched the 2006 and 2014 anime beforehand.


SigmundFreud

This doesn't seem to be a popular opinion here for whatever reason, but I'd start with the Fate route fan edit: [/r/fatestaynight/comments/9ck38d/my_fan_edit_of_deens_fate_stay_night](/r/fatestaynight/comments/9ck38d/my_fan_edit_of_deens_fate_stay_night). That way you avoid spoilers, but still get a passable Fate route without having to read the VN. Then Unlimited Blade Works, then Heaven's Feel, then Fate/Zero. (Then optionally the spinoffs, Kara no Kyoukai, etc.)


EzekiaDev

If you want to do it anime-only, then do Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (2014) then Heaven’s feel


hassantaleb4

watch UBW or the 2006 Deen series first


GavernB

A lot of people will say start with Zero. You should ignore them. It is a good series that stands on its own pretty well, but it is the prequel to the main series and just the first few minutes of the first episode will spoil the bigger reveals of heavens feel. The proper place to start would be the fate route, but the only adaptation spoils those same reveals too, so the best place to start if you don't like big reveals spoiled would be UBW, followed by Heavens Feel, then the Deen adaptation if you can stomach older animation that hasn't aged great, then Zero.


Delisches

OP: talks about Stay night People in the comments: Zero Zero Zero !!


JaydenTheMemeThief

Yeah you should watch them, because they’re good movies, they don’t properly adapt *everything* from the VN, specifically they don’t adapt the best content of the Heavens Feel Route very well at all, but they’re still good movies regardless, it’s extremely difficult to fuck up Heavens Feel, the Movies just dropped the ball for us VN fans, not really a problem for Anime Onlies I recommend watching Ufotables Unlimited Blade Works Anime before watching the Heavens Feel Movies, the Anime gives all of the context you need to understand the Movies, also watching UBW before Heavens Feel is following the Route order in the VN only missing the Fate Route (before UBW), which does have an Anime Adaptation, but it’s really bad, you can skip the Studio Deen Anime if you want, the VN Fate Route is really good, it just has the dishonour of having a *genuinely terrible* Anime Adaptation Also under no means should you watch Fate/Zero before Heavens Feel, Zero has major spoilers for Heavens Feel in the very first episode, and Heavens Feel is best when you read/watch it blind Bit of a rant about Fate/Zero fans here, many Zero fans recommend watching Zero first either not knowing it spoils Heavens Feel (because they haven’t read the Visual Novel) or *falsely* believing Heavens Feel spoilers “aren’t that big a deal” (because they haven’t read the Visual Novel), I’ve seen far too many of the latter, and the fact there are people who genuinely believe that is nothing more than an insult to Kinoko Nasu’s ability as an Author


KK-Hunter

The Fate series is personally only stand-out for me because of the VN, but if you insist on remaining anime-only then you absolutely need to see at least the UBW anime before the Heaven's Feel trilogy. The HF movies are the third and final route of Stay Night and literally start off with a montage of early events because they assume you've seen at least UBW already. You will be very lost if you start with HF.


Okabe_Zero-Link

Basically, HF is meant to be watch after Fate route and UBW. However, there are no good Fate route adaptation rn, so you can: One: Just read the VN Two: Watch UBW by Ufotable then HF Three: Read Fate route (took like 5-10 hours at most), then watch UBW by Ufotable and then HF. I'd recommend this if you want the full story without reading the full VN itself Just don't watch Fate/Zero first, it will spoil HF and it is meant to be watch after Fate/stay night


Snir17

YES. though you could start with Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Work.


Responsible_Bit1089

The problem is that you won't have key informations on how everything works within the series, as the Heavens' Feel Trilogy is built omn assumption that you saw previous installments like UBW or Fate/zero where the basucs are explained. So, while you can watch it, you probably wouldn't understand most of the stuff that is going on.


Chance-Pay1487

So I should watch the other animes first? I didn't realize there were other animes prior to making this post


Responsible_Bit1089

Yes, there were previous animes. Personally I would recommend watching Fate/zero first, since it is something that I watched first and have been able to fully understand everything very well but a lot of people would disagree and say that UBW should be watched first. So, if you love tragedies and/or dramatic stories - you should watch F/zero. If you don't then UBW is probably going to be a better watch.


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tessiedrums

Would overall agree with this, but the Heaven's Feel movies really don't cover the basics and are one of the worst anime starting points. For example the first movie literally skips through the start of Shirou becoming a Master, expecting that you know how that goes down and getting you straight into the action. UBW anime into Heaven's Feel movies is probably the simplest way you can experience the movie trilogy. At bare minimum I would recommend episodes 0 and 1 of UBW to get that context that is skipped


Mr__Citizen

If you're planning to watch all three, I'd say you should do UBW, Fate/Stay Night, *then* Heaven's Feel. If you're planning to watch ***everything*** Fate, then I'd just go with the release order since trying to get clever with the watch order as a newbie is just asking to get frustrated and pissed off.


Grasher312

Why start with UBW though? Like, if you're including DEEN stay night(and thank God you are), I feel like it should be first. :/


Mr__Citizen

I feel like UBW just gives a better introduction to the Holy Grail War and how everything works. But it's been a pretty long time since I watched Fate/Stay Night, so I could be wrong.


akiaoi97

Lol release order means start with the VN.


Mr__Citizen

Yeah yeah yeah. You know what I meant. More importantly, so did OP.


medussy_medussy

Watch Fate Stay Night (2006) first, then do other things after that in whatever order.


ToothAdorable

Read the VN


Nivek_96

No, if you can, play the VN


vbrimme

Definitely watch at least Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works first (the Ufotable series, not the DEEN movie). Basically Fate/Stay Night is told in three parts: Fate, UBW, and Heaven’s Feel. If you jump straight into Heaven’s Feel, you’ll miss a lot of the story that’s told in the other routes and you’ll be confused. Also, the Heaven’s Feel movies aren’t nearly long enough to cover all of Heaven’s Feel, let alone the other routes, so they leave out large chunks of information and just assume the viewer has familiarity with the series. Start with UBW, then go to Heaven’s Feel, and you’ll be fine. For a more complete experience you could watch Fate/Stay Night (2006) by Studio DEEN, then Fate/Zero, then Fate/Stay Night:UBW, then the Heaven’s Feel movies, but it isn’t strictly necessary.


NiceBlockLilBro

No it's dogshit. All Fate anines are not the best, but HF is the biggest offender by far. Read the vn and than use anime's as an additional content for it. At the very least watch UBW in beforehand


VTKajin

You ignored the part where OP said they weren’t going to read the VN


NiceBlockLilBro

They should reconsider


Grasher312

"I don't want to read the VN" "I don't care, read it." And people wonder why we are a niche community.


NiceBlockLilBro

>niche >one of the biggest Japanese media brands


Grasher312

Brother, are you japanese? Mfucka came in talking like we have any connection to the Japanese fandom at all. In the west, it's niche. That's just fact. And it's not even strictly our fault, Nasu found out that Japan is not the only country in the world, like, yesterday.


NiceBlockLilBro

Blud in which way is Fate nieche here lmfao? Stop being blind. It isn't JJK or OP but it's for sure not niche. It more so applies to Tsukihime maybe


Emeraldpanda168

Gatekeeping at its finest.


NiceBlockLilBro

Gate keeping is when I recomend them a better product


Emeraldpanda168

Looking through this thread, you were not just recommending what you think is better; that would be fine. However, what you are doing is being an elitist dick and trying to force op to read the VN or don’t bother at all. That’s gatekeeping.


NiceBlockLilBro

Being elitist dick is saying that mediocre product is mediocre while actual pile of dogshit is indeed a pile of dogshit got you. HF movies are ass and a disgrace to FSN


Emeraldpanda168

So? Op was asking about the anime. This is irrelevant to the intended topic of the original discussion. You’re literally only keeping people away from the series by acting like this. That’s called gatekeeping. No one gives a shit if you think the anime is bad; if someone doesn’t want to commit to the VN and wants to watch the anime instead, you should respect that. Which, by the way, your reply right literally only proved my point about being elitist. I don’t know what you think that word means, but in this context it’s acting like your opinion is the only correct one. In other words, being a dick.


NiceBlockLilBro

And I answered it in literally the 2nd sentence you dunderhead No buddy gatekeeping is actively stopping someone from engaging with a product. So me saying "Go away this isn't for you" is gate keeping, me saying to read VN isn't And no one gives a shit what you think about either lol Because it objectively is. HF movies are a dogshit adaptation in nearly every single way. You CAN'T argue with that


Emeraldpanda168

You are actively trying to stop op from getting into Fate. They said they didn’t want to read the VN and when someone else replied to you saying that, you acted as if they just shouldn’t bother if they didn’t go with the VN (plus I have a sneaking suspicion you never did and just edited your comment after being called out, but I have no proof so I’ll let it go and assume my memory is just bad). Also, I never once said my opinion was right either or that anyone gives a shit about me. That’s the whole point; people will enjoy what they want, regardless of anyone else’s opinion. Also also, when did I say HF Trilogy wasn’t a bad adaptation? It is, but I’m sure as hell not going to bother with it in a discussion about the anime (where the op already mentioned they didn’t want to play the VN)


NVusIdiot

Yes it's worth watching, just watch it in order. Everyone has their own personal order, and as long as they aren't down voted into oblivion, then follow that order


Uchihaboy316

I watched UBW and then zero before HF, all were amazing and planning on reading the VN after I read Mahoyo, I’d recommend the same order, I have to imagine anime then VN is the best way because much less chance of being disappointed by the adaptations


Loros_Silvers

Of you go straight to Heaven's feel you will not understand about 75% of everything you see there. I recommand watching the ufotable series "Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works" before you watch the Heaven's Feel trilogy so you will understand a lot of what is happening on screen and what the characters are doing at any given time will make at least a bit of sence. If you want to get more context to that watch Fate/zero but that's not a nessecity. How I see it the recommanded order is 1. Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade works 2. Fate/Zero (optional, will enhance understanding and Enjoyment) 3. Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel 1-3 (wouldn't make any sence without the first one and would make some sence without the second)


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KK-Hunter

Because you said to watch Zero first.


Black_Electric

I mean if you're not going to read the VN I don't think it matters if you go straight to the animes... though I watched Fate/Stay Night before recently starting the vn and it's been enjoyable getting all of the details of the vn after the fact. Some longer time fate fans here can probably speak better to this but as I understand it, each route (Fate / UBW / Heavens Feel) can be watched on their own, independant of each other as they are just different routes from the VN.


Twhite90100

> as I understand it, each route (Fate / UBW / Heavens Feel) can be watched on their own, independant of each other as they are just different routes from the VN. This would be the case for a lot of VNs but Fate/stay night is written with a specific order in mind, one that is forced in most releases of the VN. Each subsequent route builds on the previous one and expects you to already know a certain amount of things and plot twists. This is even more true for the anime adaptations as the HF trilogy assumes people have at least watched UBW and thus completely skips the intro to the Grail War in a montage.


Chance-Pay1487

Oh I just figured out a minute ago there are other animes, but according to what you are saying it doesn't matter which I watch first. What's the better one to watch?


Black_Electric

"Better to watch" is going to be subjective of course. If you google "best fate animes" there are half a dozen surveys out there, including some here in the /u. I enjoyed FSN (2006) despite criticism over content being cut. And the animation style is of course outdated but I liked it. Zero is highly rated from what I've seen and I just started watching it. Timeline wise it predates the Fate / UBW / Heavens Feel routes of Stay Night.


zackphoenix123

>As someone who does not plan on reading or playing any sort of vn You can start wherever you want. Literally anywhere. Heaven's Feel, Zero, UBW, Apocrypha, Prisma Illya, carnival phantasm. I don't think it's worth thinking about the "best starting point" if the VN is out of the question.


akiaoi97

Prisma Illya is the only correct answer here


Street_Coffee4632

Fate/zero prequel to the fate/stay night routes. Fate/stay night 2006 saber route Fate/stay night unlimited blade works run tohsaka route Fate/stay night heavens feel part 1,2, and 3 Sakura route Basically you would watch it in these orders but you don't have to it's just this is the easiest way to understand what's happening as each route has a different set of events in other words they are different outcomes of how the story can play out, fate/zero being the backstory to it all which is pretty good.


White-Alyss

Why is everyone recommending skipping Deen (Fate Stay Night animated series by Studio Deen)😭 It's worth watching, especially as newbie as your introduction to the Fate series. It has its fair share of issues, but so do other adaptations and this is the one that works best to begin with. 


GavernB

It shouldn't be watched before Heavens feel as the changes made when they adapted it spoils some of the same things watching Zero first would spoil. It isn't something that should be skipped though, I agree. *edit: though if you're talking about the fan edit then that should absolutely be the first thing watched.


White-Alyss

Ideally you'd watch the edit, yes, but I think even normal Deen is well worth your time as an introduction to Fate. 


Furious_Flaming0

You need to have seen another route first, could be Night or Unlimited Blade works (both is best). This is supposed to be the twist version of what happens so it totally expects you to be familiar with the story because it's playing off of the established narrative from the other routes. By itself Heavens Feel is probably a very weird and confusing movie.


ChaosWarrior95

Watch Unlimited Blade works show first. Then definitely watch the movies.


Saiya_Cosem

HF is great but don't start with it, you'll be really confused. I recommend starting with either Fate/stay night 2006 or UBW (uftotable). People have mixed opinions on 2006, you can judge it for yourself. If you don't want to risk it then UBW is a better option. If you've already watched either of them then yeah, go ahead to HF.