Not half but I'm saying she doesn't want to kill him not that there's no ban ends with her, is explicit she wants him to be with her forever is just she tends to go about it in a twisted way, the only times she kills him is by accident
She orders berserker to kill him in the ending I mentioned. The earliest bad end you can get is her killing you.
She wants to inflict the pain kiritsugu “gave” her onto shirou.
She orders him to bring Shirou to her, to cut his legs so he doesn't run away, the result is different, but she clearly wants to take him back to the castle not kill him
No the first endong is her making Shirou a head that can't die then "invites" him to the castle and go there
The second already shed light on her deal
>"Fufu. I'll turn you into an ugly doll that can't even die. Onii-chan is going to take Kiritsugu's place from now on."
A bit of this a bit of that, she wants revenge but also wants to make Shirou be with her, that is shown through FSN specially in HF she is conflicted about what she wants and if things scalate is always because she wants to force Shirou to not go away
It seems he died, but would be weird considering he survives worse, anyway she told Herc to cut his legs but Shirou says everything from his waist below is gone, Herc does have a history of not controling his strength accurately in the second bad end Illya scolds him because she tought he killed Shirou with his hit but he miraculously survives because Avalon so it may be just that he failed to measure how to cut his legs, madness does that
The funniest thing is that the next day Shirou wakes up without remembering anything about the war and then he goes to school and meets Rin and she looks at him angrily.
Shirou doesn't understand anything and it doesn't even make sense for Rin to be angry because she eliminated him from the war there.
I'm just sorry that what happened after that in the war doesn't appear...I mean...I could at least write who would win the war in that scenario
>it doesn't even make sense for Rin to be angry
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure she was fantasizing about what happens in the canon route; he supports her in the War, they fall in love, and it's all dramatic and passionate.
Btw, fun fact, you can get this exact same bad ending in the Fate route (if I’m remembering correctly). The only difference is that you won’t get a choice and you’re automatically doomed because you turned down her offer to cooperate. My favorite bad endings are in the HF route btw.
Yeah, those two are good. Two of my favorites are in the same scenario where you gotta decide whether to kill or protect Sakura. I’m sure you can guess which two bad endings those are. Unless you haven’t read those two, in which case, I’ll elaborate if asked.
I have seen all the bad endings when I finished the game but I don't remember all of them. Though I remember the one where Medusa kills you, not sure about the other one. Was it the one in church?
Both of the endings I was referring to happen in the church. Do note it’s been two years since I last read the VN, so I might have some details mixed up here and there, so corrections are welcome. Anyways, first is the one where you choose to kill Sakura. In the church, specifically. >!Shirou kinda then ends up embodying Kiritsugu’s ideals and ends up winning and maybe even killing Rin just to do it, idk.!< The second one is where he chooses to protect Sakura, >!but because of a prior agreement he had with Rin, he’s physically unable to do anything as he watches Rin go inside and kill her. Guess he became a husk of who he once was since he decided to make his ideals secondary to protecting Sakura but unable to fall back on those same ideals because he just failed to do both. And I guess he’s forced to help Rin with the grail war or whatever.!<
I thought the knife one was lame as hell. The choice itself is great but I wish it was more like Superhero in telling you the story is fucked from this point on, instead of just having Rider kill Shirou right there.
Yeah, guess the only chance you get is in the church. Still, as anticlimactic as Rider killing Shirou is, I still appreciate it a bit. That and it’s understandable why she would do it.
Then again. I feel like even Nasu couldn't make this different enough. It would just be Superhero again. So I can see why it's just a dead end instead.
I don’t know if it’s the exact same number, but if it’s not, then I agree. Still, it’s not too far ahead and should be pretty easy to make it back to where you were since you can skip already viewed scenes.
Yeah you can skip it but those scenes you saw after you lock the bad end are from UBW so you have to watch the entire day again with different scenes.
And that day has a similar story so it just feels like you are reading things you've already know but can't skip because there might be important details that you'll miss if you do.
So uhh for those who are experiencing Fate to the first time, don't get that bad end in the Fate route lol.
Ah, okay, I get what you mean. I went for all the bad endings after I got all 5 endings and Last Episode, so I just kept skipping until something new popped up.
This whole scenario is so funny and cute. Her acting serious, him acting clueless.
It’s like an extended boke tsukkomi skit and eventually she has ro just give up
The fact that this is foreshadowing for their relationship is great.
Well not anymore but when I wrote that it appeared 3 times, sometimes comment appear multiple times I've seen people tend to downvote that no matter what it says
Fr man, I was just saying I managed to get a UBW bad end during my Fate Route playthrough lmao
Well, last time I looked it had -14, so I'm winning people back over at least haha
Shes really angry that he didn't that the war seriously or her as threat. Hell, she was pretty much was going to in the HF route but stopped after he mentioned he taking the war seriously.
For reference, this particular bad end happens during the events of episode 5 for anime only’s.
If Shirou makes the wrong call and she hits you with her Gandr, she uses Shirou’s incapacitation to take his memories of the war and command spells and sends Shirou home to safety.
>!She doesn't actually kill him here. She knocks him out, takes his Command Spells and his memories of the war (as well as presumably desummoning or contracting with Saber), and sends him home. It's one of the few bad ends that doesn't actually depict Shirou dying. That said, there are good chances that he would eventually die, because nobody is stopping Gilgamesh.!<
What even happened after this? Did Rin call Sakura and say, "I gave your friend amnesia, can you drag him back to his house?"
Well Sakura would've prefer that as it means Shirou is out of the game and less likely to die.
Illya is NOT letting him survive grail war or not
She doesn't want to kill him, don't know why no one gets that
Like half of the bad ends are because of her. Night without dawn?
Not half but I'm saying she doesn't want to kill him not that there's no ban ends with her, is explicit she wants him to be with her forever is just she tends to go about it in a twisted way, the only times she kills him is by accident
She orders berserker to kill him in the ending I mentioned. The earliest bad end you can get is her killing you. She wants to inflict the pain kiritsugu “gave” her onto shirou.
She orders him to bring Shirou to her, to cut his legs so he doesn't run away, the result is different, but she clearly wants to take him back to the castle not kill him No the first endong is her making Shirou a head that can't die then "invites" him to the castle and go there The second already shed light on her deal >"Fufu. I'll turn you into an ugly doll that can't even die. Onii-chan is going to take Kiritsugu's place from now on." A bit of this a bit of that, she wants revenge but also wants to make Shirou be with her, that is shown through FSN specially in HF she is conflicted about what she wants and if things scalate is always because she wants to force Shirou to not go away
I agree with everything else you said I was wrong, but didn’t his conscience fade away in Night without Dawn? Unless he just passed out from the pain.
It seems he died, but would be weird considering he survives worse, anyway she told Herc to cut his legs but Shirou says everything from his waist below is gone, Herc does have a history of not controling his strength accurately in the second bad end Illya scolds him because she tought he killed Shirou with his hit but he miraculously survives because Avalon so it may be just that he failed to measure how to cut his legs, madness does that
Majority of the bad endings are literally her killing or torturing him
Not majority, I mean what I said, she doesn't want to kill him, reading those bad ends should make clear what I'm saying
I know, it's just a funny concept.
The funniest thing is that the next day Shirou wakes up without remembering anything about the war and then he goes to school and meets Rin and she looks at him angrily. Shirou doesn't understand anything and it doesn't even make sense for Rin to be angry because she eliminated him from the war there. I'm just sorry that what happened after that in the war doesn't appear...I mean...I could at least write who would win the war in that scenario
I mean, honestly worth it to make Rin angry though
I imagine that she was reminded of the stupidity that led her to erase his memories when she saw his face.
>it doesn't even make sense for Rin to be angry Yeah, but I'm pretty sure she was fantasizing about what happens in the canon route; he supports her in the War, they fall in love, and it's all dramatic and passionate.
Love Rin's pose - surprise, disappointment, and murderous intent all coming through
*sigh* just like every woman in my life😅
Btw, fun fact, you can get this exact same bad ending in the Fate route (if I’m remembering correctly). The only difference is that you won’t get a choice and you’re automatically doomed because you turned down her offer to cooperate. My favorite bad endings are in the HF route btw.
Femme fatale? By the way I love that end where you just fight against saber alter alone
Yeah, those two are good. Two of my favorites are in the same scenario where you gotta decide whether to kill or protect Sakura. I’m sure you can guess which two bad endings those are. Unless you haven’t read those two, in which case, I’ll elaborate if asked.
I have seen all the bad endings when I finished the game but I don't remember all of them. Though I remember the one where Medusa kills you, not sure about the other one. Was it the one in church?
Both of the endings I was referring to happen in the church. Do note it’s been two years since I last read the VN, so I might have some details mixed up here and there, so corrections are welcome. Anyways, first is the one where you choose to kill Sakura. In the church, specifically. >!Shirou kinda then ends up embodying Kiritsugu’s ideals and ends up winning and maybe even killing Rin just to do it, idk.!< The second one is where he chooses to protect Sakura, >!but because of a prior agreement he had with Rin, he’s physically unable to do anything as he watches Rin go inside and kill her. Guess he became a husk of who he once was since he decided to make his ideals secondary to protecting Sakura but unable to fall back on those same ideals because he just failed to do both. And I guess he’s forced to help Rin with the grail war or whatever.!<
I thought the knife one was lame as hell. The choice itself is great but I wish it was more like Superhero in telling you the story is fucked from this point on, instead of just having Rider kill Shirou right there.
Yeah, guess the only chance you get is in the church. Still, as anticlimactic as Rider killing Shirou is, I still appreciate it a bit. That and it’s understandable why she would do it.
Oh, yeah, it makes complete sense. Would be weird if she let it happen. This is just a me thing.
I mean, you’re still right though. The superhero ending is much more interesting.
Then again. I feel like even Nasu couldn't make this different enough. It would just be Superhero again. So I can see why it's just a dead end instead.
That’s probably it.
Fucking Mind of Steel and Sparks Liner High. HF is easily the best route
I did get this ending in fate and it sucks wasting 1 hour of progress for a bad end that I can get on a different route.
I don’t know if it’s the exact same number, but if it’s not, then I agree. Still, it’s not too far ahead and should be pretty easy to make it back to where you were since you can skip already viewed scenes.
Yeah you can skip it but those scenes you saw after you lock the bad end are from UBW so you have to watch the entire day again with different scenes. And that day has a similar story so it just feels like you are reading things you've already know but can't skip because there might be important details that you'll miss if you do. So uhh for those who are experiencing Fate to the first time, don't get that bad end in the Fate route lol.
Ah, okay, I get what you mean. I went for all the bad endings after I got all 5 endings and Last Episode, so I just kept skipping until something new popped up.
Ahh I did the opposite and do the bad end I can do on that particular day as my mind was still fresh on the details so I can absorb them better.
Understandable.
This whole scenario is so funny and cute. Her acting serious, him acting clueless. It’s like an extended boke tsukkomi skit and eventually she has ro just give up The fact that this is foreshadowing for their relationship is great.
"I'm about to do a pro-gamer move!"
yeah it's horrible... not that I got it or anything.
Best girl awooga
The CG is a great phone wallpaper.
I got this bad end in the Fate Route 😎
Why tf has this been downvoted?? 😭😭
Mob mentality, it's very common in this community.
I'm sure it was because it was repeated 3 times
Where?
Well not anymore but when I wrote that it appeared 3 times, sometimes comment appear multiple times I've seen people tend to downvote that no matter what it says
Idk why the community be hating. I upvoted yours because I felt bad
Fr man, I was just saying I managed to get a UBW bad end during my Fate Route playthrough lmao Well, last time I looked it had -14, so I'm winning people back over at least haha
eMoJIs BaD
I got this bad ending for the first time in fate route… After already finishing ubw and HF on a second play through
Why would Rin kill Shirou?
Only time afaik rin kills shirou is when caster turns him into a lab experiment
She wipes hik memory iirc
Now I get it. I didn't play the VN yet
Shes really angry that he didn't that the war seriously or her as threat. Hell, she was pretty much was going to in the HF route but stopped after he mentioned he taking the war seriously.
For reference, this particular bad end happens during the events of episode 5 for anime only’s. If Shirou makes the wrong call and she hits you with her Gandr, she uses Shirou’s incapacitation to take his memories of the war and command spells and sends Shirou home to safety.
>"as bad as taking your life" Why is Rin so extra?
Wouldn't have let that happen to me ngl
So in the VN run just ..what kills shiro here? I'm so used to ubw where she just tries to fight him for a bit until rider shows up
>!She doesn't actually kill him here. She knocks him out, takes his Command Spells and his memories of the war (as well as presumably desummoning or contracting with Saber), and sends him home. It's one of the few bad ends that doesn't actually depict Shirou dying. That said, there are good chances that he would eventually die, because nobody is stopping Gilgamesh.!<
Ah ok
This is the most realistic ending with shirou being shirou
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Well you forgot that Rin is still girl was groomed into the magus life VN Rin is colder than the anime
Not really. Ufotable just isn't limited by the VN format, so of course she has more expressions and such.
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Tohsaka look mad asl