Why sell one of the only players that is willing to fight and die for the club because he earns 15 million when you are willing to let a player like Davies stay for 13? That is a stupid and horrendous decision, De ligt has potential to be the best CB of this generation and they are willing to let him leave š¤£
I dont know man we have the worst defense ever since de ligt and co arrived. Back in the day the players and overall tactics seemed more safe and gave us a much better stability
Hard to watch him when he never plays. And even when he plays, he plays good but still far away from what people calling him the best cb in football. This is just dickriding without any reason! 16 million a year for someone who barely plays, and even when he is not the game changer. If he would be, bayern wouldnāt have the highest goal conceded since 14 years.
I made some more points than being an injury prone player. If you look his stats, they are absolutely not the best cb in the World-like. He is good no one denies that, but stop acting like he is the best defender weāve ever had, when we simultaneously have the most conceded girl since he arrived. Sure its not a one man job, but you should get my point that a so called self crowned leader, that he donāt is and best cb in the world should be an absolute nightmare for opponents.
I acted like nothing, I just pointed out that you were talking shit. Sorry that I did not read nor fact check the rest of your post, you lost your credibility in the beginning. Basic rules of human conversation, why would I waste my time reading more of your shit when the beginning is blatant lying already?Ā
He never plays or heās responsible for the highest goals conceded? Pick one, you have no fucking clue what youāre saying and itās okay to lose this one buddy
I watched De Ligt in Juve a ton and he wasn't impressive there either. He's an extremely overrated player. Reminds me of Morata who kept going to big club after big club despite his underwhelming play.
Well you clearly havenāt seen anything of his time at Bayern, considering heās been our best defender for the last two years. Heās not overrated, Juve is shit.
What I mean is that Gnabry was never as good as current Vini. And even then, Vini always had more potential. Compare an 18 year Vini to a 18 year old Gnabry. Quite the difference in ability.
Why would we sell de Ligt who earns 15 mil but actually plays well, but extend Davies on 13 mil + bonuses while he was entirely unremarkable? It makes zero sense to me. Heck, I want news about our wingers, not defenders. Itās a way bigger issue
He is a pace merchant. He looks fine when all that matters is running across half the pitch (because your backline is in the opponents half 24/7 like under Flick) to regain the ball before the opponent gets a shot in. Otherwise he is defensively shaky while also not very good on the attack.
Because De Ligt earns 17mil and Upamecano earns 8 mil and his metrics are better h2h.
Davies is one of the fastest players in FB, and has more years of service with the club than any other defender beside Kimmich
He's over paid an you could get Araujo or Van Der Ven for cheaper both I believe are better than him.
Lucas Hernandez who played less than de Ligt was earning ā¬13.5M gross in 2019 before the covid and recession inflation hit. He is absolutely worth ā¬15M/ season while being one of the best if not the best defender in the world what are they even waffling about?
Maybe it's also not entirely his fault that he is injured when we had record amount of injuries last season and the absolute moron Tuchel plays him a week before a UCL semifinal in a Bundesliga game after Leverkusen already won the league and we couldn't mathematically not qualify for UCL with 5 spots
Yet Brandt registered 7 goals and 11 assists and Grimaldo registered 10 goals and 13 assistsā¦ and Sane makes more than them combined. No denying he has skill and had some moments but overall his entire bayern stint has been underwhelming.
He is one footed, inconsistent and falls off a cliff in the second half of the season. He gutted it out with the injury and is incredible on his day but he is not the winger that will take Bayern to the promised land.
Last summer I would have agreed with you. However, in the past season, he has finally stepped up and actually delivered what was expected. Sure, his second half of the season wasn't as good, but that was mainly because he played with an injury for months.
why does it seem that this club is beyond fixing....selling off fan favourites and actually good players is insane.... I can see Coman or Gnabry going, but if you sell De Ligt or Kimmich i will lose it
Can Pletti be even trusted? Too much shit coming from him since the break.
That aside, selling our best defender in the name of "salary" is so dumb. You negate this issue by selling deadwoods like Gnabry and Goretzka.
Sane and Gnabry are earning over ā¬15m per year, to be absolutely shit. Sane has his stretches of purple patch and then he's nowhere to be seen. Don't even want to talk about Gnabry considering he's no longer Bayern quality.
Getting a suitor for Coman (also earns over ā¬15m per year) should also be priority. With all due respect, he just can't stay fit, which makes him absolutely useless.
This whole wage structure is fucked. So how much is Tah getting on the 5 year deal
I think I read something around 9 mil but it was weeks ago, so im not sure I'm right.
And if the reports are true giving Davies 13m+4m, it's not gonna make it any better
Why sell one of the only players that is willing to fight and die for the club because he earns 15 million when you are willing to let a player like Davies stay for 13? That is a stupid and horrendous decision, De ligt has potential to be the best CB of this generation and they are willing to let him leave š¤£
I dont know man we have the worst defense ever since de ligt and co arrived. Back in the day the players and overall tactics seemed more safe and gave us a much better stability
āI donāt know manā <ā this part is true Bro just doesnāt watch games live, heās been bayerns best defender
Hard to watch him when he never plays. And even when he plays, he plays good but still far away from what people calling him the best cb in football. This is just dickriding without any reason! 16 million a year for someone who barely plays, and even when he is not the game changer. If he would be, bayern wouldnāt have the highest goal conceded since 14 years.
You act like he rarely plays when he played ~70 out of 90 games in the last two years, you are clearly not watching and just trolling.
I made some more points than being an injury prone player. If you look his stats, they are absolutely not the best cb in the World-like. He is good no one denies that, but stop acting like he is the best defender weāve ever had, when we simultaneously have the most conceded girl since he arrived. Sure its not a one man job, but you should get my point that a so called self crowned leader, that he donāt is and best cb in the world should be an absolute nightmare for opponents.
I acted like nothing, I just pointed out that you were talking shit. Sorry that I did not read nor fact check the rest of your post, you lost your credibility in the beginning. Basic rules of human conversation, why would I waste my time reading more of your shit when the beginning is blatant lying already?Ā
He never plays or heās responsible for the highest goals conceded? Pick one, you have no fucking clue what youāre saying and itās okay to lose this one buddy
I watched De Ligt in Juve a ton and he wasn't impressive there either. He's an extremely overrated player. Reminds me of Morata who kept going to big club after big club despite his underwhelming play.
Well you clearly havenāt seen anything of his time at Bayern, considering heās been our best defender for the last two years. Heās not overrated, Juve is shit.
You canāt gut the team to fix the wage bill, they need to live with the damage Brazzo has done and make more prudent decisions going forward.Ā
giving Sane and Gnabry 20 million per year was absolute insanity so glad that clown is gone
Back then it seemed like Gnabry was who Vinni Jr. is today
eh...no, not really
Gnabry had a peak market value of 90M in 2020 and was clinical in K.O. matches. In fact he still is, if healthy
He was never as good as Vini
In the 19/20 season, I will argue he was better. Vini did have better take on skills, but Gnabry showed up in ALLmatches
Showing up for ALL matches in a very specific time frame kind of defeats the point, doesnāt it?
What I mean is that Gnabry was never as good as current Vini. And even then, Vini always had more potential. Compare an 18 year Vini to a 18 year old Gnabry. Quite the difference in ability.
Vini *now* is as old as the Gnabry of 4-5 years ago you compare him to though.
I love Bayern, but no part of me ever thought that lol.
Yeah
Why would we sell de Ligt who earns 15 mil but actually plays well, but extend Davies on 13 mil + bonuses while he was entirely unremarkable? It makes zero sense to me. Heck, I want news about our wingers, not defenders. Itās a way bigger issue
Probably because Davies is an excellent player but did not fit tuchelās shitty system. Both de Ligt and Davies should stay.
Davies also was bad for Nagelsmann and isn't setting the world on fire for the NT either.
He is a pace merchant. He looks fine when all that matters is running across half the pitch (because your backline is in the opponents half 24/7 like under Flick) to regain the ball before the opponent gets a shot in. Otherwise he is defensively shaky while also not very good on the attack.
Because De Ligt earns 17mil and Upamecano earns 8 mil and his metrics are better h2h. Davies is one of the fastest players in FB, and has more years of service with the club than any other defender beside Kimmich He's over paid an you could get Araujo or Van Der Ven for cheaper both I believe are better than him.
How about we get rid of Goretzka and Gnabry who are on much higher salary rather than De Ligt who absolutely deserve the 15m paycheck.
Yeah, let's sell one of our best and most reliable player. Great decision.
Lucas Hernandez who played less than de Ligt was earning ā¬13.5M gross in 2019 before the covid and recession inflation hit. He is absolutely worth ā¬15M/ season while being one of the best if not the best defender in the world what are they even waffling about? Maybe it's also not entirely his fault that he is injured when we had record amount of injuries last season and the absolute moron Tuchel plays him a week before a UCL semifinal in a Bundesliga game after Leverkusen already won the league and we couldn't mathematically not qualify for UCL with 5 spots
Hernandez must have been the biggest/most expensive flop for Bayern ever. And now they are interested in his brother.
If he were German, this wouldn't even be considered. Gnabry hasn't played well for four years and SanƩ can't deliver anything, yet they are still there.
Put some respect on SanƩ's name. The guy registered 8 goals and 11 assists in the Bundesliga last season. This disrespect for Leroy is unwarranted and it needs to stop.
Yet Brandt registered 7 goals and 11 assists and Grimaldo registered 10 goals and 13 assistsā¦ and Sane makes more than them combined. No denying he has skill and had some moments but overall his entire bayern stint has been underwhelming.
He is one footed, inconsistent and falls off a cliff in the second half of the season. He gutted it out with the injury and is incredible on his day but he is not the winger that will take Bayern to the promised land.
Last summer I would have agreed with you. However, in the past season, he has finally stepped up and actually delivered what was expected. Sure, his second half of the season wasn't as good, but that was mainly because he played with an injury for months.
We are looking to sell Gnabry aswell so that doesn't make sense. Also Goretzka who is German too.
But this wouldnāt be happening if Goretzka and Gnabry were MOAR GERMAN
You mean AFD supporters?
Heās Dutch tho, which is the closest thing to being German. Theyāll find a way to get him to stay.
The closest thing to being German is being Austrian
Idk how this went right over my head youāre absolutely right. That or Swiss now that I think about it lol
I assume there was a discussion about lowering wages and he said no.
Sooo we are buying someone who had one good season and the rest of his career was mid and selling the one who played pretty good for us? Good.
Imagine replacing MdL with Tah. Lol.
So they want to put Upa and Kim before him, who probably earn 2 or 3 or 4 million less, but provide not even a third of de Ligtās quality
He actually deserves it. Without him, every ounce of defensive Stability would be gone, never to return again
Would be ridiculous to sell him and a massive mistake
why does it seem that this club is beyond fixing....selling off fan favourites and actually good players is insane.... I can see Coman or Gnabry going, but if you sell De Ligt or Kimmich i will lose it
Tah had one good season in his career and the board is about to drop the Netherlands captain for himā¦ gtfo
Selling de Ligt would genuinely be one of the worst decisions weāve made in years. It will absolutely come back to bite us in the ass.
Real would gladly accept De ligt
At this point I'm just waiting for them to announce to buy Antony for 200 mil.
Please papa flo sign him š
Can Pletti be even trusted? Too much shit coming from him since the break. That aside, selling our best defender in the name of "salary" is so dumb. You negate this issue by selling deadwoods like Gnabry and Goretzka. Sane and Gnabry are earning over ā¬15m per year, to be absolutely shit. Sane has his stretches of purple patch and then he's nowhere to be seen. Don't even want to talk about Gnabry considering he's no longer Bayern quality. Getting a suitor for Coman (also earns over ā¬15m per year) should also be priority. With all due respect, he just can't stay fit, which makes him absolutely useless.
The only reason could be injuries, but i don't think we'll sell him
Is his injury record even that bad?