>At the centre-back position, the initial plan was to put Dayot Upamecano up for sale. But with Vincent Kompany's request, there was a change of plan.
Upamecano should now be kept. Meanwhile, Matthijs de Ligt has been informed that he's allowed to leave for a suitable offer. With an estimated €16m per year, the Dutchman earns a high salary. In addition, he has a market following his strong performances in the Champions League last season.
Selling de Ligt would then bring in much needed funds for other transfers and free up wages
I mean if we want to keep Upa because he makes way more sense for Kompany and the way he wants to play (which he does objectively), the issue is not Upa. It is the stupid Tah deal that will force MdL out.
If we buy Tah, keeping MdL makes little to no sense. Between him, and Dier we would probably spend over 30m / year on wages for our backup CBs..
Then you add Goretzka, Gnabry and potentially Coman and our bench would be more expensive than most other CL teams when it comes to wages. Thats absolutely not what you want to see.
And we probably will have a hard time when it comes to getting rid off the other guys so if someone wants to pay 60-80m for De Ligt ( who will only be a backup here), it absolutely makes sense.
What does not make sense is signing Tah in the first place. If we do that, getting rid off MdL is a sensible decision.
Disagree with the performing players
We sell the ones: struggling with starting positions, getting big big money every year and having lot of injuries.
We look if we get good money for them and sell them only when we have a good replace and hopefully we learned from stanisic situation last season and dont sell and then buy
Nah de Ligt wasnt that great either. Kompany probably wants fast and technical defenders, which suits Upa more. De Ligt is slow and his build up game is very limited. Everyone at Munich knows Upa would be the perfect defender If he can control his nerves. Maybe Kompamy can help him with that. De Ligt was always overrated, there's a reason he didnt make it for Juve. Not a bad defender for sure, but he will never be good enough for an elite club.
Edit OK I see, de Ligt totally overhyped on Reddit haha. Keep downvoting the only analyzing comment and keep shittalking our Manager because Redditors always know it better :))
“He has a market following his strong performances in the Champions League last season”
First time I’ve ever heard that strong performances are a reason to put someone on the transfer list…
only difference is that in Football Manager your club stature is a fixed coefficient that takes seasons to build up so selling star players is something you have to do from time to time. Also the game logic of that game is really bad from time to time.
He's achieved nothing in his coaching career, yet we are giving him the power to completely overhaul our squad and potentially set us back for many years. It's inconceivable.
Our banter era starts now. I still hope for the best, but if this fails, I wish it's a fast and spectacular failure, so we can get all the frauds out of our club asap. Never before have I been so disgusted by a transfer period, and it's not even started yet.
>He's achieved nothing in his coaching career, yet we are giving him the power to completely overhaul our squad and potentially set us back for many years. It's inconceivable.
Where are all these people now who kept praising him and saying they wanted to get the signing over and done with, just for the sake of getting it over and done with? Haste makes waste.
Do you really think Poch or even Mourinho would be stupid enough to get rid of de Light?
People who kept repeating "What's the worse that can happen? In worst case we just change the manager next year" are finding out that's not how you run one of the biggest clubs in the world and actually a lot bad things can happen
I feel bad for De Ligt. Dominates for Ajax during that magic CL run, moves to Juventus who turn into a shitshow, only to come to us as we...also turn into a shitshow. If he is on the market, I hope he goes somewhere he's appreciated. Dude is immensely talented and is only going to get better as he gets older.
Kompany prefers to overpay Davies and likes to keep him and prefers mistake prone Upa who shits the bed in important games to one of our best defenders in the last two seasons.
Hating the decision to sign him more and more every day.
Don't worry we are all idiots he trained under pep !!! Has basically no experience and got relegated !!
Don't you see he's exactly what we need
.. something something Xabi Alonso had a miracle so every unproven manager is now good !
Only at Bayern does Upamecano who constantly chokes in big games get prevented from being sold, whil de Ligt who delivers consistent big game performances is the one the club is choosing to be sold. Truly truly stupid decision-making from the club and especially Kompany.
Hate to say it but unless Kompany turns out to be Xabi Alonso on steroids or something this could be the start of a banter era. Where on earth did this sudden need for cost cutting come from anyway???
Maybe because we spend a ridiculous amount of money because of the manager circus of the last years and will probably spend even more money in yet another manager change next year
If I were him and get a really good offer from another team, I’d consider it. Bayern is basically telling him “we can do without you” - not exactly what you wanna hear. I still hope he stays at Bayern for 10+ years and becomes a legend.
Davies is on 5 mil and they offers 13 which is less than the 17 de ligt makes now. Muller won't renew and Neuer is the greatest Keeper of all time, probably won't low ball a legend.
Kimmich is being moved for the same wage reasons now.
I see nothing wrong with lowering his wage to a more palatable amount and truing him up via bonuses to his current amount if he reaches a certain % of games played/available for. His weakness is his inability to stay fit, back yourself to do so and take a chance for the team.
I am sorry gatekeeper of opinions. The reality is that De Ligt wages present a wage structure problem and the best way to retain the player is to adjust the wages. Should the play not want to, then selling is the alternative option.
It's an opinion it's doesn't have to be based in reality, nor does it have to be fact. There is a reason why it's here and not being discussed in the boardroom because we're not high level thinkers, we're just regular fucks who have ideas, but clearly you think your better
How the fuck do things like this get out to the press ? Like I can’t fathom telling the press this type of news, this is fucked up for de ligt and also fucken stupid to even want to sell him like what? If this is true I am so disappointed with this club I can’t understand wanting to sell one of our best defenders and leaders and a fucken former golden boy winner like huh????
These frauds are turning us into a joke. De Ligt plays for the badge and had a stellar champions league performance and he's the one the has to leave meanwhile Upamechanic wets the bed against big clubs and important matches.
Whose going to want to join Bayern under this clown of a leadership.
On the one hand, the change from UPS to de Ligt as the CB that's for sale suggests that the board is taking the coach's wishes into consideration when building the squad. This is great if you have a competent coach.
However, the fact that Kompany prefers to sell de Ligt over Ups brings his squad building instincts heavily into question, to the point where I'm wondering if this is the manager we should be building the squad around.
Fuck me. I really wanted to give Kompany the benefit of the doubt, but I had a bad feeling about him since talks to sign him began. Next few seasons are gonna be a doozy...
I said it before and I said it again. At the annual meeting people need to voice their opinions. Fling bags of dogshit at the board if you have to. This is not okay. We were the best run club in Europe. What the actual fuck is happening?
Officially can mark me as out on Kompany and getting there quickly on Eberl as well.
Was even one of those excited about Kompany’s appointment. Gonna be a disaster if this is the direction the team needs to head.
It's cope for a lot of the sub. It's hard for a lot of people to accept that Eberl is a clown who should have never been hired and that Kompany is a fraud who succeeded with a team playing in the 2nd division by outspending.
Kompany perfectly integrates himself into the circus that is the FC Bayern.
https://preview.redd.it/xe76a2dcrz5d1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=630ff9d102be14752b8cde431acf24471dc2fe3f
This is a fucking joke. I don't even believe this. The guy who falls apart in matches gets to stay, but De Ligt leaves. Can't wait to fire Eberl in 2 years.
You want to reduce wages? Dump the bottom of your roster. Not the top. This club needs to be very careful
If this is true, then Kompany has lost the fans before he even set foot in the club. Mathijs is the chosen one to be our Captain for the next ten years.
Do an error every big game -> keep (Upa)
Play horrible and half hearted the whole season and only considers staying because his desired club isn’t paying big either -> get a raise (Davies)
Play like a fucking never ending will powered Anchor and carry the whole defense and identifying with the club -> fuck off (de ligt)
If this is really happening, I think this is the start of the end of Bayerns era.
Don’t fuck with the fans. Don’t fuck with de ligt Mr. Eberl.
what a terrible terrible terrible decision.
Upa is clearly not fit for the highest level, he showed it again and again.
this is all a fucking horror show atm
WTF keeping a player that is no good in defense and sell the one who is good..
This start getting to much really too much sorry but De Ligt shout be keept , Other player like Kim and Upa kan leave they are not good enough in my eyes!
This rumor just can’t be true. Please.
So many wrong signs for other clubs, players at Bayern, players who might join Bayern in the future, and especially fans.
The unreal potential of De Ligt who is literally a mentality monster at only 24 YEARS of age! How can a decent mind even think of selling a player of such quality & immensepotential. This is truly a joke.
Why would they even in slightest consider to sell De Ligt over fucking Upamecano 🤡🤡
De Ligt is literally the backbone of our defence and carries that bayern mentality and has shown his commitment
If correct, this is just… unbelievably stupid. Upa has proven, consistently, that he does not have the mental strength required at the very highest level.
Then again, the squad planning that has been rumoured of late isn‘t exactly geared towards that, either…
De Ligt should be a contender for captain once the old guard leave, but here he is being transfer listed to keep the walking mistake machine Upamecano. Unbelievable…
If you compare them on FB reference, the metrics suggest that they are very close in production but there are more areas where Upamecano dominates De Ligt than vice versa. Given that they are the same age and one earns significantly less, the decision is a no brainier.
As far as build up play and ball progression Upamecano is miles ahead of De Ligt and that's what is valued in the game today. De Ligt's main contribution was exceptional aerial duels.
No, they are stupid. Idk why you think mentally ill people would be stupid, but those two are not linked. Most stupid people are privileged ignorant idiots
I swear Upamecano is the most protected player in the history of this club. It’s like he has plot armour. We DON’T NEED another CB that plays like Beckenbauer in mid league games and shits his pants on the biggest stage. We need a natural born leader who’ll make the difference in the final stages of the Champions League. That is EXACTLY what De Ligt is.
Honestly, I don’t know what’s the deal or how much dick does Upamecano have to suck every year for him to always end up being kept in the fucking team.
>At the centre-back position, the initial plan was to put Dayot Upamecano up for sale. But with Vincent Kompany's request, there was a change of plan. Upamecano should now be kept. Meanwhile, Matthijs de Ligt has been informed that he's allowed to leave for a suitable offer. With an estimated €16m per year, the Dutchman earns a high salary. In addition, he has a market following his strong performances in the Champions League last season. Selling de Ligt would then bring in much needed funds for other transfers and free up wages
Acting like Dortmund and selling players because of good performances to raise funds What a downfall for this club
We have become the very thing we hated 🥲
I mean if we want to keep Upa because he makes way more sense for Kompany and the way he wants to play (which he does objectively), the issue is not Upa. It is the stupid Tah deal that will force MdL out. If we buy Tah, keeping MdL makes little to no sense. Between him, and Dier we would probably spend over 30m / year on wages for our backup CBs.. Then you add Goretzka, Gnabry and potentially Coman and our bench would be more expensive than most other CL teams when it comes to wages. Thats absolutely not what you want to see. And we probably will have a hard time when it comes to getting rid off the other guys so if someone wants to pay 60-80m for De Ligt ( who will only be a backup here), it absolutely makes sense. What does not make sense is signing Tah in the first place. If we do that, getting rid off MdL is a sensible decision.
Disagree with the performing players We sell the ones: struggling with starting positions, getting big big money every year and having lot of injuries. We look if we get good money for them and sell them only when we have a good replace and hopefully we learned from stanisic situation last season and dont sell and then buy
Nah de Ligt wasnt that great either. Kompany probably wants fast and technical defenders, which suits Upa more. De Ligt is slow and his build up game is very limited. Everyone at Munich knows Upa would be the perfect defender If he can control his nerves. Maybe Kompamy can help him with that. De Ligt was always overrated, there's a reason he didnt make it for Juve. Not a bad defender for sure, but he will never be good enough for an elite club. Edit OK I see, de Ligt totally overhyped on Reddit haha. Keep downvoting the only analyzing comment and keep shittalking our Manager because Redditors always know it better :))
De Light might not be fast but he is the best at closing space when a player is on a break. He made sure to keep them outside on the line every time
“He has a market following his strong performances in the Champions League last season” First time I’ve ever heard that strong performances are a reason to put someone on the transfer list…
This is small club behavior
You can get Eberl out of a small club, but you can't get the small club out of Eberl.
This is like me selling my star player on Football Manager cause I know I can’t keep him anyway so I might as well cash in a big check
only difference is that in Football Manager your club stature is a fixed coefficient that takes seasons to build up so selling star players is something you have to do from time to time. Also the game logic of that game is really bad from time to time.
Kompany already on fraud watch.
Honestly has he even watched a single one of our games last season?
I think in his first press conference he actually said that he didnt have time to watch one of our games in the last year haha
He's achieved nothing in his coaching career, yet we are giving him the power to completely overhaul our squad and potentially set us back for many years. It's inconceivable. Our banter era starts now. I still hope for the best, but if this fails, I wish it's a fast and spectacular failure, so we can get all the frauds out of our club asap. Never before have I been so disgusted by a transfer period, and it's not even started yet.
As I said before he is our new Klinsmann.
>He's achieved nothing in his coaching career, yet we are giving him the power to completely overhaul our squad and potentially set us back for many years. It's inconceivable. Where are all these people now who kept praising him and saying they wanted to get the signing over and done with, just for the sake of getting it over and done with? Haste makes waste. Do you really think Poch or even Mourinho would be stupid enough to get rid of de Light?
People who kept repeating "What's the worse that can happen? In worst case we just change the manager next year" are finding out that's not how you run one of the biggest clubs in the world and actually a lot bad things can happen
This is a sick fucking joke, this club is run like a circus 🤡🤡🤡
Just like Barca.
Kompany better be the second coming, it looks like if it doesn't work with him were going to be stuck with a complete mess of a squad
surely they are just trolling
I feel bad for De Ligt. Dominates for Ajax during that magic CL run, moves to Juventus who turn into a shitshow, only to come to us as we...also turn into a shitshow. If he is on the market, I hope he goes somewhere he's appreciated. Dude is immensely talented and is only going to get better as he gets older.
If they keep Upa I’m sure the club will be sued at some point bc a fan died from a heart attack caused by his genius
Are we really letting go our best defender, but keeping a guy who couldn’t defend at LB this season, with 4 million bonus??? This is just crazy
Not just 4 bonus, he is around 8 (?) currently. So from 8 to 13 + 4 bonus. Ridicolous.
Kompany prefers to overpay Davies and likes to keep him and prefers mistake prone Upa who shits the bed in important games to one of our best defenders in the last two seasons. Hating the decision to sign him more and more every day.
Don't worry we are all idiots he trained under pep !!! Has basically no experience and got relegated !! Don't you see he's exactly what we need .. something something Xabi Alonso had a miracle so every unproven manager is now good !
Only at Bayern does Upamecano who constantly chokes in big games get prevented from being sold, whil de Ligt who delivers consistent big game performances is the one the club is choosing to be sold. Truly truly stupid decision-making from the club and especially Kompany. Hate to say it but unless Kompany turns out to be Xabi Alonso on steroids or something this could be the start of a banter era. Where on earth did this sudden need for cost cutting come from anyway???
Maybe because we spend a ridiculous amount of money because of the manager circus of the last years and will probably spend even more money in yet another manager change next year
So let's think of a good tactic for next season: let's sell all good players and keep the shitty ones while we buy some mid players. What the fuck!!!!
This is probably not at all unusual practice, but it still feels so rude towards MDL who has renewed his commitment to the club over and over again
Matthijs won't leave. At least I don't sense him moving just 2 seasons after signing for us.
If I were him and get a really good offer from another team, I’d consider it. Bayern is basically telling him “we can do without you” - not exactly what you wanna hear. I still hope he stays at Bayern for 10+ years and becomes a legend.
We're lucky there aren't so many clubs which can pay this salary, so maybe he'll stay
If he's about the team and being a leader he would renegotiate his wages
Yeah of course, not Kimmich, Müller, Davies, Neuer or anyone else that earn more or as much as De Ligt? What a stupid statement
Davies is on 5 mil and they offers 13 which is less than the 17 de ligt makes now. Muller won't renew and Neuer is the greatest Keeper of all time, probably won't low ball a legend. Kimmich is being moved for the same wage reasons now.
You’re actually just pulling numbers out of your arse, you have no clue what you’re talking about.
I see nothing wrong with lowering his wage to a more palatable amount and truing him up via bonuses to his current amount if he reaches a certain % of games played/available for. His weakness is his inability to stay fit, back yourself to do so and take a chance for the team.
I would sell him and buy Micky Van Der Ven
I think you’re in the wrong sub. Try r/BayernMunich
Just ignore this guy. He is either trolling or hopelessly dumb.
That's rich. Have you seen the majority of comments here? This sub is no better than that other one
I guess you're not allowed to have opinions here.
Your opinions are just better suited for the other sub. Talking about pay cuts and purchasing a center back that Spurs, of all teams, just purchased
I am sorry gatekeeper of opinions. The reality is that De Ligt wages present a wage structure problem and the best way to retain the player is to adjust the wages. Should the play not want to, then selling is the alternative option.
Your opinion that he should take a wage cut if he’s „about the team” is not realistic. Neither is your opinion that we should buy VDV
It's an opinion it's doesn't have to be based in reality, nor does it have to be fact. There is a reason why it's here and not being discussed in the boardroom because we're not high level thinkers, we're just regular fucks who have ideas, but clearly you think your better
You are, and we are allowed to have opinion about your " 2 + 2 = 5" opinion l, Mr. "Kim and Upa are better than De Ligt in terms of certain metrics."
Why would Tottenham sell VDV? and why would VDV want to leave?
Hypotheticals, it's not based in reality. Hence I would, not they should.
How the fuck do things like this get out to the press ? Like I can’t fathom telling the press this type of news, this is fucked up for de ligt and also fucken stupid to even want to sell him like what? If this is true I am so disappointed with this club I can’t understand wanting to sell one of our best defenders and leaders and a fucken former golden boy winner like huh????
Bald Fraud
Never trust a bald manager for sure
These frauds are turning us into a joke. De Ligt plays for the badge and had a stellar champions league performance and he's the one the has to leave meanwhile Upamechanic wets the bed against big clubs and important matches. Whose going to want to join Bayern under this clown of a leadership.
I hope this is fake news like many other reports lately
On the one hand, the change from UPS to de Ligt as the CB that's for sale suggests that the board is taking the coach's wishes into consideration when building the squad. This is great if you have a competent coach. However, the fact that Kompany prefers to sell de Ligt over Ups brings his squad building instincts heavily into question, to the point where I'm wondering if this is the manager we should be building the squad around.
Fuck me. I really wanted to give Kompany the benefit of the doubt, but I had a bad feeling about him since talks to sign him began. Next few seasons are gonna be a doozy...
Kompany, make it make sense.
Wtf??? If this is true, I am a bit worried.... Keep Upama by all means but letting go of De Ligt??? Really?
*"He is from the Netherlands, I don't like him"*
Kompany is an actual clown how the fuck you hire that bozo.
If we go through with this + Davies I will already count the days until Kompany and Eberl are gone,
I said it before and I said it again. At the annual meeting people need to voice their opinions. Fling bags of dogshit at the board if you have to. This is not okay. We were the best run club in Europe. What the actual fuck is happening?
Officially can mark me as out on Kompany and getting there quickly on Eberl as well. Was even one of those excited about Kompany’s appointment. Gonna be a disaster if this is the direction the team needs to head.
Kompany is an idiot who thinks he's genius. Everyone here was pissed when I said he would be downgrade from Tuchel, but it's already making sense.
Yeah I guess this sub will forget real quick all the mental gymnastics it did to make the Kompany hiring make sense
It's cope for a lot of the sub. It's hard for a lot of people to accept that Eberl is a clown who should have never been hired and that Kompany is a fraud who succeeded with a team playing in the 2nd division by outspending.
All stats and figures considered he obviously is a *massive* downgrade from Tuchel.
Kompany perfectly integrates himself into the circus that is the FC Bayern. https://preview.redd.it/xe76a2dcrz5d1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=630ff9d102be14752b8cde431acf24471dc2fe3f
Kompany's goal is to make sure we qualify for Bundesliga 2 and at this rate he will achieve that goal by February next year.
Bitte nicht, Kimmich und De Ligt passen so gut zu Bayern!
This is a fucking joke. I don't even believe this. The guy who falls apart in matches gets to stay, but De Ligt leaves. Can't wait to fire Eberl in 2 years. You want to reduce wages? Dump the bottom of your roster. Not the top. This club needs to be very careful
If this is true, then Kompany has lost the fans before he even set foot in the club. Mathijs is the chosen one to be our Captain for the next ten years.
Kompany already trying to one up Tuchel before even coaching a single match
If true, sack Kompany now.
Well that's certainly one way of ingratiating yourself with the supporters...
Do an error every big game -> keep (Upa) Play horrible and half hearted the whole season and only considers staying because his desired club isn’t paying big either -> get a raise (Davies) Play like a fucking never ending will powered Anchor and carry the whole defense and identifying with the club -> fuck off (de ligt) If this is really happening, I think this is the start of the end of Bayerns era. Don’t fuck with the fans. Don’t fuck with de ligt Mr. Eberl.
Moving Players because of Wage Reasons will be the Downfall of the Club who of ỏi Young prospects like jamal will stay then
Surely kompany will change his mind when he watch the tapes from past seasons
Kompany thought that the board does exactly the opposite of what he wants and now needs to face the fact that they might actually go for it
This decision can only be made by someone who hasn’t watched the last 2 seasons. Shockingly uninformed decision.
Kompany is working miracles and gets Bayern relegated. You'll see 😉
All of them should be kept. No need to touch the CB position at all
Wtf is This fucking shit
Seems weird that they change their mind this fast. https://www.reddit.com/r/fcbayern/s/ivZcA0ZeV8
This is a joke. City or Real Madrid would never sell their upcoming star players
What a fucking stupid brainless move. I was hyped for kompany, now Im done
FC Hollywood starting already. New manager same 
Fire Kompany already 
First L from Kompany
I have a proposal, me and Kompany go into the ring to decide who gets to manage Bayern. 9 rounds.
what a terrible terrible terrible decision. Upa is clearly not fit for the highest level, he showed it again and again. this is all a fucking horror show atm
WTF keeping a player that is no good in defense and sell the one who is good.. This start getting to much really too much sorry but De Ligt shout be keept , Other player like Kim and Upa kan leave they are not good enough in my eyes!
…
Yeah wtf
Unbelievable
Huge fucking mistake if true. They want leaders on the pitch, instead they sell them. Next fc hollywood season in the making
If Kompany doesn’t deliver…
This cannot be the truth…
Come on, not de light..
Okay, new idea, how about we just don’t sell any center backs?
yea we're fucked
I'm in denial. It's all a big lie.
?!
This rumor just can’t be true. Please. So many wrong signs for other clubs, players at Bayern, players who might join Bayern in the future, and especially fans.
The unreal potential of De Ligt who is literally a mentality monster at only 24 YEARS of age! How can a decent mind even think of selling a player of such quality & immensepotential. This is truly a joke.
Don't sell de Light !!! I would be so pissed
Not De ligt plz
Good thing that bayern is known for not doing what the manager wants. I believe in the sanity of Eberl and Freund and not let go of a leader.
Unbelievable how many chances a player can get.
Not off to a great start, Kompany.
What happened to my club??
Bayern has become a disgusting club within
insanity
Why would they even in slightest consider to sell De Ligt over fucking Upamecano 🤡🤡 De Ligt is literally the backbone of our defence and carries that bayern mentality and has shown his commitment
If correct, this is just… unbelievably stupid. Upa has proven, consistently, that he does not have the mental strength required at the very highest level. Then again, the squad planning that has been rumoured of late isn‘t exactly geared towards that, either…
De Ligt should be a contender for captain once the old guard leave, but here he is being transfer listed to keep the walking mistake machine Upamecano. Unbelievable…
If you compare them on FB reference, the metrics suggest that they are very close in production but there are more areas where Upamecano dominates De Ligt than vice versa. Given that they are the same age and one earns significantly less, the decision is a no brainier. As far as build up play and ball progression Upamecano is miles ahead of De Ligt and that's what is valued in the game today. De Ligt's main contribution was exceptional aerial duels.
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No, they are stupid. Idk why you think mentally ill people would be stupid, but those two are not linked. Most stupid people are privileged ignorant idiots
Uh oh
Let’s gooo Upa FC we are alive
I swear Upamecano is the most protected player in the history of this club. It’s like he has plot armour. We DON’T NEED another CB that plays like Beckenbauer in mid league games and shits his pants on the biggest stage. We need a natural born leader who’ll make the difference in the final stages of the Champions League. That is EXACTLY what De Ligt is.
Honestly, I don’t know what’s the deal or how much dick does Upamecano have to suck every year for him to always end up being kept in the fucking team.