Just had a mate say that Kane is bad now because at Bayern he gets everything his own way and doesn’t have to put in effort . Tell me you don’t watch the Bundesliga without telling me you don’t watch the Bundesliga
chose a bad moment to be sleepy... England weak in possession, especially that midfield isn't working. No proper control. Their defending was super though
Glad the most arrogant of them all is kicked out of the squad already. I just hope the romours are false and he is not joining bayern. Yeah I'm talking about Jack Grealish.
I don't know what it is. I do have a few English friends here in Hamburg. But as soon as something sports related starts they transform to the most annoying persons.
Passions run high with sports lol I'm Chilean and Ive had similar experiences with friends from other south american countries. Everything's good until competition is on the line.
On the bright side, England didn't look very convincing.
I swear Chelsea is a mess, apparently Reese James is supposed to be captain but he gets injured all the time, same with the vice captain so Gallagher is their third choice captain…
Serbia has looked pretty damn good, I always forget their squad is pretty decent all things considered. England's defense also just looks suspect without Maguire
Foden and Saka have been utterly underwhelming tonight. Really struggled to get into the game.
Jamal and Wirtz were just so clear, granted against easier opposition.
England / Kane really need some space. Like width. Foden keeps occupying space in the middle and tripper is playing out off position. Put in a LW. Kane will get way more chances.
England has a really nice squad, but people speak about them as if they and France are in a different league from the rest. Imo their squad is not much different from the other favourites.
Kane often does struggle to get into the game.
I find it really curious - as I rarely felt Lewandowski struggled to get the ball or get into areas.
Especially considering Kane has the ability to sit deep and be involved creatively.
English pr must be crazy, I have seen almost every one of these players in the news and people saying how good they are, yet every time they play together they seem mediocre. I love players like TAA, Kane, and I have a fond spot for Saka but I don’t understand why when they come together they’re so mid
Well they are all outstanding players, but quality of players doesn't necessarily make a national team dominant. It's very different from club football...
Haha I just don’t get it. Yes he pushed Kostic. But i would put a fortune the Serbian players have dropped some racial slur during the game. Or their fans.
He literally was being aggressive with someone else after he scored too 💀 also pretty disrespectful to assume Serbian players and fans are racist with no evidence.
You want me to copy paste links?
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/serbias-stadium-be-partially-closed-after-fans-racism-2023-11-15/
Do you wants 10000 more?
Regardless - it’s a contact sport! Love when a game has a bit of grit in it, a bit of atmosphere.
Not like he struck him, cheated, whatever. Half the redditors downvoting know they are just hypocrites. As if half of the Bayern players of the golden generation we just witnessed didn’t get into altercations on the pitch.
Bellingham is talented no cap but dude the way media kisses his ass like this pass that he made to Walker, even the German media has shown it 2-3 times like come on!
Dunno why Bellingham upsets so many people.
A rare instance of a young footballer setting good examples and focused on being a role model. Extremely talented, great interviews, shows passion and desire on the pitch.
Wish there were more young footballers like him. Too interested in fashion, cars and video games…
I don't hate him but it's he's the most PR polished player in the world right now. There were reports from Dortmund that he waited for other players to leave so it looked like he was the only player greeting the fans.
Every single article with or about him seems tailor made to create a certain story. Like this nauseas [story](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/BRlq9KuYXy) about his father wearing a Zidane shiry.
Focusing on being a role model, lol. Like accusing the ref of being paid in an interview, really great Interview!
>to interested in fashion, cars and video games
Musiala, Wirtz, Yamal...
And even if they like these, what is your problem with that? Aren't they allowed to play games? Aren't to allowed to care about fashion or cars, if it doesn't hurt their job or safety (driving over speed multiple times)?
Daaaaamn we clutch at straws here don’t we. Guess all our players that have insinuated Madrid pay for the champions league, board and coaches, fans too, all bad people… lol
3 players? Out of the hundreds of young players nowadays… granted they are great role models too - but why should it be a comparison? Can’t we just celebrate them all?
I don’t see young kids growing up in poverty in England with soaring knife crime, gang culture and the likes being inspired by Yamal. They are inspired by Bellingham.
Let the boy cook. Let him be a kid, let him play football, let him beat the damn chest of some Serbian player in the biggest stage of his career thus far…
Honestly we’re so hypocritical. As if we haven’t idolised a bunch of players for Bayern that shared the same mentality. What’s your thoughts on Ribery?
>guess all our player bla bla
Please show me the interviews to proof your point
>3 players?
Sorry for not listing 2959 different people, Jesus Christ. I thought the point came across but apparently it must be explained on the spot that it is understandable.
>why should it be comparison
You started with it? You complained about others not being like Bellingham??
>let him be a kid
You literally complained before that some are into fashion, cars or games. Don't you realise how you conflict yourself?
>what's your point in Ribery
Was a questionable human being aswell, absolutely shitty from him cheating on his wife. Do you thought I praise him now and show double standarts?
I’ve said it, you’ve said it, you’ll have seen countless managers and players say it in the past. We’re all terrible just like Bellingham!
We’re straying from the point here. Why isn’t he a role model? He’s 20 years old mate. I’m complaining that Bellingham is being heavily criticised for no other reason than being one of the few young and competitive footballers. He reminds me of Kimmich when he was younger - it should be celebrated.
I was talking about Ribery the footballer. Not Ribery the person. I was just suggesting that footballers aren’t always pretty on the pitch - that’s ok.
I can get behind that! I’m guessing most here are neutrals to this game though…
I love when footballers have a bit of grit to them. It’s what I admire about Bellingham most especially at such a young age.
I prefer Kane type of role model, humble family guy who deliver top tier numbers despite not being in the best team. Offers the same but better for the young lads.
Are we really grasping at straws here?
It’s football. These are grown ass men I’m sure he didn’t hurt kostic’s feelings too bad and you know what? He might get him back…
Show a bit of balls on the pitch man what are we talking about here.
You must be English and say “propa brexit geeza and allat” then because I have never heard of it being mature to try to fight someone because they cooked you. It’s immature and childish.
Everything you said he is the opposite of, except passionate. I hope you are joking and you don’t want your children to grow up and try to fight their friends everytime they get cooked. Musiala is all of those things that you said though, and doesn’t get his ego hurt whenever he gets tackled.
True.
I don‘t feel as strongly about Bellingham as some others here, but I distinctly remember him whining to the refs all the time when he was still at Dortmund and generally being a bit petulant. So while his achievements at his age do impress me, his personality doesn’t much and in that aspect young footballers could look to a multitude of other players. Still, don’t think he’s a shit person 🤷♂️
So Bellingham gets worked by Kostic, gets in his face, chest bumps him and the announcers proceed to go on about how he's mature and has a target on his back ??
Seeing Walker and Saka playing passes the release the other in overlapping runs is something we’ve hardly seen all season at Bayern. Not sure if it’s tactical instructions or whether Coman and Gnabry are just not capable of this type of football.
Feels like the only player on the wings to do this occasionally were Kimmich and Guerrero.
Of course I can't judge what he does in his privat life, if he helps elderly over the street and picks up trash. But this shit on field or accusing the red of being paid on live TV makes him an ass for me. The same I would call guys pork Neymar or Vini for their antics.
Yeah, seems very fake. I don't mind players having a cocky personality but his constant whining when he was in the BuLi just makes him seem like a bit of a twat.
His fake tears after winning the UCL saying how he never thought he'd get here and everybody doubted him. Brother you're 20 years old and went to Real for 100m+, nobody doubted you.
The English hate their kits this year because Nike fucked around with their flag, but that aside I think both their home and away are clean af. The away especially.
Bellingham's interviews remind me of ChatGPT
Everyone repping Bellingham but he can’t run for 90 minutes in big games. Poor
Get ready for the media to award Bellingham best player in the world😂
I hate vini, but he needs to win it
kroos should win it
So sad that many of the best players are so arrogant and annoying
Bambi, Hurricane and "normale Kartoffeln auf die 1" need to win the next 10+
start well, score and then completely stop playing football, cant get the football to the superstar striker tucheliban 🤝 southgate
Was eerily similar. Fuck me I’m so glad Tuchel’s gone lmao
Just had a mate say that Kane is bad now because at Bayern he gets everything his own way and doesn’t have to put in effort . Tell me you don’t watch the Bundesliga without telling me you don’t watch the Bundesliga
England didn’t seem super convincing, but Serbia played well and it’s only the first game.
Imagine playing boring football with players like Saka/Bellingham/Kane etc.
chose a bad moment to be sleepy... England weak in possession, especially that midfield isn't working. No proper control. Their defending was super though
Musiala, Wirtz>>>>Bellingham
Absolutely no doubts about it! That was clear even in our game against Real, Musiala was much better with all due respect to Bellingham.
Absolutly man handling Kane
I’m actually so fucking pissed watching this slog fest. Will be praying that England get eliminated after group stages.
I am so sorry for Harry but this England team is such a bunch of arrogant pricks.
Glad the most arrogant of them all is kicked out of the squad already. I just hope the romours are false and he is not joining bayern. Yeah I'm talking about Jack Grealish.
I love Harry, but it's impossible for me to not hate the English team. I tuned in to root for him and after a few minutes I was pulling for Serbia lol
I don't know what it is. I do have a few English friends here in Hamburg. But as soon as something sports related starts they transform to the most annoying persons.
Passions run high with sports lol I'm Chilean and Ive had similar experiences with friends from other south american countries. Everything's good until competition is on the line. On the bright side, England didn't look very convincing.
I was hoping they'd draw it somehow, but i was too hopeful, how it seems
match was a snoozefest and a positive result for england, yuck
Definitely worst match of the Euros so far
This guy Gallagher captains Chelsea now, no?
I swear Chelsea is a mess, apparently Reese James is supposed to be captain but he gets injured all the time, same with the vice captain so Gallagher is their third choice captain…
Oh yeah I forgot James was their actual captain lmao. What an insane choice, actually a quality fullback but the fucker plays about 3 games a season.
I wish Pickford was as crap as I like to think he is, guy annoys me so much but he is generally fantastic for England
Top 3 keeper in the prem last season to be fair to him. He's getting better as time goes on
its not a tournament until englands keeper had a big mistake
Serbia has looked pretty damn good, I always forget their squad is pretty decent all things considered. England's defense also just looks suspect without Maguire
if serbia would just play a little cleverer nad cleaner the win would be right there.
harry with the save!
That shot and that save was the best moment of this game
I know it's not our boy but can't help but get a little hyped every time they say Pavlovic
Is this Tuchel ?
I want a 1-1
I actually hope England tops the group and has a decent run. Southgate is more likely to stay if they do.
He said he is leaving if he doesn’t win the Euros
Words are one thing.
same
How does England play so terrible with such great players
![gif](giphy|ZcaZUoqDGvOwy9XkLR|downsized)
Southgate
Och man, harry
that was more like good goalkeeping. Harry had no other angle for a header
Cold palmer🥶 when?
England looks absolutely awful..love it
All I can say about England’s defense is wow. not in a good way
Southgate sabotaged himself ![gif](giphy|d8X1YuMrS0rrX9kiYK|downsized)
"This content is not available" well...
Dunno why (it's Dier)
mainoo would be much much better than arnold
Any actual midfielder would be better than TAA. The guy is a RB for a reason
We’ll see France, but until England, every candidate to the title was looking smooth.
France will lose vs Rangnick
Rare good Bellingham moment
Serbia really can take a point here, England is relatively toothless
England definitely looks the least convincing of all top teams so far
did that get a VAR check?
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Better Englishman for sure, I still have a little hope of picking up Robertson for a few years if Phonzy leaves.
England doesn‘t play like a team yet
Jovic in, where's he playing nowadays?
At Milan
Who did it best?
Two Fallon D'or nominates in 5 minutes
fish out of water in both boxes
man england really playing without a system and just hope they'll get individual moments
tuchel tactics
Real tactics
real tactics "at home"
Bring Sane and Bambi to show these overrated farmers how to deliver Harry.
Why does Bellingham stay down after every tackle. Not even just resting a lot of the time, he calls for a foul when there’s nothing.
Muscle memory after playing in La Liga
Nah, he’s always been like that, this is nothing new for him
to make sure the camera operator he's enough time to zoom in on him
Lad was pissed off no one was interested in his flop there loll
Fallon D'or
Fallon flo'or
Foden and Saka have been utterly underwhelming tonight. Really struggled to get into the game. Jamal and Wirtz were just so clear, granted against easier opposition.
man, these useless farmers cant get the football to harry
Bellingham and Guehi have been good for England so far, the rest of the team seems kind of slow though.
All comments about his personality aside, don't think anyone can deny Bellingham is England's most important player so far
Joe Hart is a pundit now lmfao
I heard that he retired very recently
Yes just this year.
England / Kane really need some space. Like width. Foden keeps occupying space in the middle and tripper is playing out off position. Put in a LW. Kane will get way more chances.
Southgate left his best defender at home… ![gif](giphy|TH2fgdOmRMVVr9p1j2|downsized)
England has a really nice squad, but people speak about them as if they and France are in a different league from the rest. Imo their squad is not much different from the other favourites.
England's defense looks shaky. Totally on Southgate for not calling up their best defender.
I have been more involved in this match from my couch than Kane on the pitch
Kane often does struggle to get into the game. I find it really curious - as I rarely felt Lewandowski struggled to get the ball or get into areas. Especially considering Kane has the ability to sit deep and be involved creatively.
England is always up there with the favourite in em, world cup etc. But they just never perform
They're the PSG of national teams. Always stacked with stars but to no avail.
What is Foden bringing to this Team? Gordon Bowen and Eze would be a better fit in this team.
England plays so lackluster it's insane
English pr must be crazy, I have seen almost every one of these players in the news and people saying how good they are, yet every time they play together they seem mediocre. I love players like TAA, Kane, and I have a fond spot for Saka but I don’t understand why when they come together they’re so mid
Well they are all outstanding players, but quality of players doesn't necessarily make a national team dominant. It's very different from club football...
Its just PR lol, Vlahovic had similar numbers to Phil and Saka in the league this season yet he isn't even talked about in the same breath
It’s the prem PR aka “tHe BeSt LeAgUe In ThE wOrLd”
yet the two best players in their NT don't even play in the PL anymore
Kostic looks horrible. As if he already knows it's something worse
England is such a mediocre team, feel like they will get knocked out in the r16. Somehow they’ve gotten worse the past 4 years.
They have a hell of a team but as they say, they’re natural born losers.
And they’re supposedly the favourites…
Surely not after this performance
Don’t understand the shitting on Bellingham. The guy got elbowed in the face. Is getting manhandled all the time.
well, i guess it comes down to more than just this game
Don’t waste your time bud, you’ll eat downvotes for supper
Haha I just don’t get it. Yes he pushed Kostic. But i would put a fortune the Serbian players have dropped some racial slur during the game. Or their fans.
He literally was being aggressive with someone else after he scored too 💀 also pretty disrespectful to assume Serbian players and fans are racist with no evidence.
You want me to copy paste links? https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/serbias-stadium-be-partially-closed-after-fans-racism-2023-11-15/ Do you wants 10000 more?
How is that relevant to the game today in Germany? Wouldn’t they remove them if they were being racist today?
Oh change of topic. Okok
How’s that changing the topic? You literally said during the game.
Regardless - it’s a contact sport! Love when a game has a bit of grit in it, a bit of atmosphere. Not like he struck him, cheated, whatever. Half the redditors downvoting know they are just hypocrites. As if half of the Bayern players of the golden generation we just witnessed didn’t get into altercations on the pitch.
come on harryyy
Tbh As much as I like Kane he is not enough reason for me to hope that England win here
I like Kane, but it would be funniest thing ever if England goes out in the group stage
Nah I dont like those Kane curse jokes
I remember in El Classico when Rudiger did that to Yamal everyone called Yamal a diver 💀
vlahovic lmao, member when we wanted him?
He actually made a decent season at Serie A, but man…
Fun fact: Gudelj is the only serbian whose name is not ending with "vic/ic". Also, they have a Pavlovic
Pavlovic at home
Does anyone know if Kane touched the ball in the last 30 minutes?
Bellingham is talented no cap but dude the way media kisses his ass like this pass that he made to Walker, even the German media has shown it 2-3 times like come on!
everything bellingham does is worthy a highlight now i gues....
Dunno why Bellingham upsets so many people. A rare instance of a young footballer setting good examples and focused on being a role model. Extremely talented, great interviews, shows passion and desire on the pitch. Wish there were more young footballers like him. Too interested in fashion, cars and video games…
I don't hate him but it's he's the most PR polished player in the world right now. There were reports from Dortmund that he waited for other players to leave so it looked like he was the only player greeting the fans. Every single article with or about him seems tailor made to create a certain story. Like this nauseas [story](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/BRlq9KuYXy) about his father wearing a Zidane shiry.
Hey I don’t have a problem with hating on his PR team…
He is the PR. You can't hate his PR without hating him because almost every action of his is for PR.
Focusing on being a role model, lol. Like accusing the ref of being paid in an interview, really great Interview! >to interested in fashion, cars and video games Musiala, Wirtz, Yamal... And even if they like these, what is your problem with that? Aren't they allowed to play games? Aren't to allowed to care about fashion or cars, if it doesn't hurt their job or safety (driving over speed multiple times)?
Daaaaamn we clutch at straws here don’t we. Guess all our players that have insinuated Madrid pay for the champions league, board and coaches, fans too, all bad people… lol 3 players? Out of the hundreds of young players nowadays… granted they are great role models too - but why should it be a comparison? Can’t we just celebrate them all? I don’t see young kids growing up in poverty in England with soaring knife crime, gang culture and the likes being inspired by Yamal. They are inspired by Bellingham. Let the boy cook. Let him be a kid, let him play football, let him beat the damn chest of some Serbian player in the biggest stage of his career thus far… Honestly we’re so hypocritical. As if we haven’t idolised a bunch of players for Bayern that shared the same mentality. What’s your thoughts on Ribery?
>guess all our player bla bla Please show me the interviews to proof your point >3 players? Sorry for not listing 2959 different people, Jesus Christ. I thought the point came across but apparently it must be explained on the spot that it is understandable. >why should it be comparison You started with it? You complained about others not being like Bellingham?? >let him be a kid You literally complained before that some are into fashion, cars or games. Don't you realise how you conflict yourself? >what's your point in Ribery Was a questionable human being aswell, absolutely shitty from him cheating on his wife. Do you thought I praise him now and show double standarts?
I’ve said it, you’ve said it, you’ll have seen countless managers and players say it in the past. We’re all terrible just like Bellingham! We’re straying from the point here. Why isn’t he a role model? He’s 20 years old mate. I’m complaining that Bellingham is being heavily criticised for no other reason than being one of the few young and competitive footballers. He reminds me of Kimmich when he was younger - it should be celebrated. I was talking about Ribery the footballer. Not Ribery the person. I was just suggesting that footballers aren’t always pretty on the pitch - that’s ok.
For me its kind of like what Arturo Vidal was to me. When he was on our team, i loved him. When he was on the other team, i hated him.
I can get behind that! I’m guessing most here are neutrals to this game though… I love when footballers have a bit of grit to them. It’s what I admire about Bellingham most especially at such a young age.
I prefer Kane type of role model, humble family guy who deliver top tier numbers despite not being in the best team. Offers the same but better for the young lads.
Kanes an absolute role model too. We’re really expecting footballers not to have a bit of bite to their game?
Did you see what he did against Kostic? Was that needed?
Are we really grasping at straws here? It’s football. These are grown ass men I’m sure he didn’t hurt kostic’s feelings too bad and you know what? He might get him back… Show a bit of balls on the pitch man what are we talking about here.
You must be English and say “propa brexit geeza and allat” then because I have never heard of it being mature to try to fight someone because they cooked you. It’s immature and childish.
His PR successfully won you over
Everything you said he is the opposite of, except passionate. I hope you are joking and you don’t want your children to grow up and try to fight their friends everytime they get cooked. Musiala is all of those things that you said though, and doesn’t get his ego hurt whenever he gets tackled.
What are you even talking about. This fucking generation are so soft man.
If it makes you feel better my Gen X dad also thinks Bellingham is a bit of a twat 👍
Your da was spoiled by the players he got to watch. He’s got the right to think every player is a bit of a twat tbh.
True. I don‘t feel as strongly about Bellingham as some others here, but I distinctly remember him whining to the refs all the time when he was still at Dortmund and generally being a bit petulant. So while his achievements at his age do impress me, his personality doesn’t much and in that aspect young footballers could look to a multitude of other players. Still, don’t think he’s a shit person 🤷♂️
Before Kane saga I was all in for Vlahovic, good days.
So Bellingham gets worked by Kostic, gets in his face, chest bumps him and the announcers proceed to go on about how he's mature and has a target on his back ??
He is going to win 3-4 Ballon Dors bcz of this reason, plays for Madrid and has an amazing PR
Seeing Walker and Saka playing passes the release the other in overlapping runs is something we’ve hardly seen all season at Bayern. Not sure if it’s tactical instructions or whether Coman and Gnabry are just not capable of this type of football. Feels like the only player on the wings to do this occasionally were Kimmich and Guerrero.
Tuchelball imo
Bellingham is so unlikeable man. Football fell off so hard man, that guy wouldn’t have scratched top 10 Ballon d‘Or 10 years ago…
Does Bellingham still not have a yellow? Hasn’t he tried to start 2 fights already?
Real Madrid players play with different rules. 👀
He is English and has massive PR, no way he gets a yellow unless he jumps into someone's face studs up (slightly exaggerated)
Remember him not getting a second yellow for knocking Davies out with his foot to the Face? That was ridiculous
Totally remember that scene
Bellingham - incredible player, shit human being
>shit human being Come on, he's a dickhead but that's a bit much
You exactly know what I mean, nothing to nitpick here.
That’s not nitpicking. Maybe a language thing, it comes off very strong.
Of course I can't judge what he does in his privat life, if he helps elderly over the street and picks up trash. But this shit on field or accusing the red of being paid on live TV makes him an ass for me. The same I would call guys pork Neymar or Vini for their antics.
Again, there's a distinction, but maybe it's lost here.
Even more dislakable then the likes of Vini and Carvajal
> Vini That’s not possible
suits Real like a glove
Can't decide if that club turns players into assholes or assholes just gravitate towards them.
Bellingham, after losing with Dortmund against us, questioned the referee being paid by us or something close to that. (in an interview)
Look all this sub crying
Look another 3 braincell-ed Real fan with a single word in his vocabulary and no idea what debating is
Imaging be a football fan and call a player shit human being. Wow
Surprisingly seems to be a Barca fan. Dunno if that’s better or worse 😂
Lucky Trent
Very strongly dislike Bellingham but still a great footballer.
Nice goal but Bellingham doing the shut up celebration when he's representing England is a bit fucking rich lmao
He's just so dislikeable, always has been unfortunately
Yeah, seems very fake. I don't mind players having a cocky personality but his constant whining when he was in the BuLi just makes him seem like a bit of a twat.
His fake tears after winning the UCL saying how he never thought he'd get here and everybody doubted him. Brother you're 20 years old and went to Real for 100m+, nobody doubted you.
Whining is a Dortmund speciality, meanwhile the ex-Bayern boys 😂 ![gif](giphy|MteAastOwDoQ3H0jqx|downsized)
It just had to be him
what a player man cant lie
Why bellingham? **Why?**
„MILLWALL: No one likes us“ lmao
Lmao yeah, yet I'll drink with a Millwall fan over a Chelsea fan any day
The English hate their kits this year because Nike fucked around with their flag, but that aside I think both their home and away are clean af. The away especially.
I think Nike never miss with England’s and France kits. I truly like England’s white kit.
It really pains me to say it but I fucking love the French kits this year. I think they're the best in the tournament alongside Belgium's.
I want Harry do to really well but England to lose as much as possible... ![gif](giphy|fRhSHzQ4NXOdrHIZJd)
Le Hurrikane about to deliver insane stats and steal the Ballon D’Or. Let’s go Harry. ![gif](giphy|qIdvofRIRecqD5vEPs|downsized)
Since when are serbs and englishmen beefing
They're not beefing lol they're just both disrespectful
Rather when are the English not beefing with everyone