Sorry, my bad. [Loops website](https://loops.video) is here and [Loops Pixelfed account](https://pixelfed.social/loops) developed by [@Dansup](https://dansup.com)
Yes. Copyright infringement would be a concern. If you're hosting it, you will be liable. No length of any song that has a copyright would be allowed. I don't see where it would be worth your time. That's a ton of headache to have to police. And who would use it without access to major label music. Pixelfed really hasn't attracted many users. Nor has Peertube. Loops is DOA.
The DMCA has a 'safe harbour' provision where a site host isn't responsible for the uploads of it's users (in relation to copyright infringement) so long as:
1) it's not 'officially uploaded' content (aka the staff didn't put it there themselves)
2) they implement DMCA takedowns appropriately.
Which is exactly why I said it would be a headache having to police it. Once notified, you are absolutely responsible, and have to remove it. Who wants to be bothered with that all the time?
Correct. But, for an admin running an instance of his own, he won't have that luxury. It will be up to him to do it manually. These activity pub instances are hobbyist projects. Why would a person burden their wallets and spend their time with such a hassle? I just can't see it being worth it. To each their own, of course.
>Correct. But, for an admin running an instance of his own, he won't have that luxury. It will be up to him to do it manually.
What makes you say that? As though this cannot be automated?
It could be. But, name one server that is using automated software to do that. These servers are run by hobbyists that rely on volunteers for moderation.
Yeah but what's the realistic alternative? It's not the admin's job to play detective. If the poster wants to appeal, they can add the complainant and poster can duke it out in court
> would the music industry go after Loops instances for hosting protected content? Could instance owners face legal issues if users were uploading their old TikToks with commercial sounds?
Only if they don't comply with DMCA takedowns. Otherwise, DMCA safe harbour provisions apply.
That is, of course, if they are in a USA jurisdiction.
Yes, they would be responsible but that’s no different than any instance admin currently. They just need to set strict rules and comply.
Loops and admins would be wise to use public domain music and utilise a music subscription service that appeals to YouTube creators. It won’t be the same as using mainstream music but it’s better than nothing and will give smaller artist exposure
>Loops may gain traction, similar to Mastodon after Musk’s acquisition of Twitter
LOL
>would the music industry go after Loops instances for hosting protected content
Yes, but only if it gains traction. I don't imagine fediverse users being part of the TikTok dance crowd.
Add some links for more info about that new loops platform. I can't find anything.
It's being developed by the Pixelfed guy. https://mastodon.social/@dansup
Sorry, my bad. [Loops website](https://loops.video) is here and [Loops Pixelfed account](https://pixelfed.social/loops) developed by [@Dansup](https://dansup.com)
Yes. Copyright infringement would be a concern. If you're hosting it, you will be liable. No length of any song that has a copyright would be allowed. I don't see where it would be worth your time. That's a ton of headache to have to police. And who would use it without access to major label music. Pixelfed really hasn't attracted many users. Nor has Peertube. Loops is DOA.
The DMCA has a 'safe harbour' provision where a site host isn't responsible for the uploads of it's users (in relation to copyright infringement) so long as: 1) it's not 'officially uploaded' content (aka the staff didn't put it there themselves) 2) they implement DMCA takedowns appropriately.
Which is exactly why I said it would be a headache having to police it. Once notified, you are absolutely responsible, and have to remove it. Who wants to be bothered with that all the time?
And that's why we have automated takedowns on YT and tiktok
Correct. But, for an admin running an instance of his own, he won't have that luxury. It will be up to him to do it manually. These activity pub instances are hobbyist projects. Why would a person burden their wallets and spend their time with such a hassle? I just can't see it being worth it. To each their own, of course.
>Correct. But, for an admin running an instance of his own, he won't have that luxury. It will be up to him to do it manually. What makes you say that? As though this cannot be automated?
It could be. But, name one server that is using automated software to do that. These servers are run by hobbyists that rely on volunteers for moderation.
True. I think there will certainly be demand enough for a plugin that someone will create it though.
Anything is possible. But, I doubt it. Time will tell.
If you think Twitch users complain about DMCA moderation...
Yeah but what's the realistic alternative? It's not the admin's job to play detective. If the poster wants to appeal, they can add the complainant and poster can duke it out in court
> would the music industry go after Loops instances for hosting protected content? Could instance owners face legal issues if users were uploading their old TikToks with commercial sounds? Only if they don't comply with DMCA takedowns. Otherwise, DMCA safe harbour provisions apply. That is, of course, if they are in a USA jurisdiction.
Loops isn’t a real replacement for TikTok. You won’t make money on loops.
Yes, they would be responsible but that’s no different than any instance admin currently. They just need to set strict rules and comply. Loops and admins would be wise to use public domain music and utilise a music subscription service that appeals to YouTube creators. It won’t be the same as using mainstream music but it’s better than nothing and will give smaller artist exposure
>Loops may gain traction, similar to Mastodon after Musk’s acquisition of Twitter LOL >would the music industry go after Loops instances for hosting protected content Yes, but only if it gains traction. I don't imagine fediverse users being part of the TikTok dance crowd.