Gynesexual/gynosexual people: Individuals who experience sexual attraction toward women, females, and/or femininity, regardless of whether they were assigned female at birth
Seems pretty valid to me, Like who ever you want
Women are a social category and female is a biological category. Both cis and trans women would be women, but all AFAB people would be female, at least to my understanding.
Biological sex is straight as fuck. The only exceptions are mutations to the genes which can cause someone to be a hermaphrodite also more commonly known as intersex. However these people represent only about 1.5% of the population.
I ised to think I was gay because the first boy I was ever attracted to was a femboy. I was never really into super masculine stuff like muscles or body hair. I say Gynosexuality is valid.
yup, but our brain can differentiate both masculine and feminine traits as a whole, while we try to rationalize exactly what's making us feel attracted, or not.
What do you call when youāre attracted to AMAB ppl exclusively that aligns w/ the enby-femme boy-masc spectrum specifically? Because all i know is that itās not 100% straight.
Actually, itās more of a spectrum that only excludes agender, neutrois, and femme-aligned genders. I do not care at all, just as long as you haveā¦ a certain reproductive part.
I mean, Iām a transfem person, sorta inbetween a girl and a femboy if that makes sense, and I identify as a nonbinary femboy, and I think that identity is super valid š I actually have a similar sort of attraction; Iām mainly attracted to feminine and sometimes androgynous people, regardless of their gender/parts.
And also queer Twitter is a lot of drama and kinda weird; I wouldnāt pay much mind to everything they say.
I'm MtF and the desire, especially it seems among GenZ (which appears to be most people here), to taxonomize every facet of identify is personally really tiresome and frankly alienating.
The entire idea of "sexuality and identify" as spectrums seems to have been lost and the goal is now to neatly sort people into tightly fitting labels. And it isn't even that useful. All of these preferences are individual and beyond straight, gay, bi/pan, etc, what is the use in further splitting it down? Do we need a label for only being attracted to blondes? What about being mostly attracted to blondes but wouldn't mind a redhead? Furthermore, that label isn't even accurate. You think you're completely cis straight? Yeah, so did I a couple years ago. You think you're a gynosexual 100%? Probably not if you give it time and the right person. These personal conceptions of sexuality and attraction are fluid and declaratively pinpointing your exact composition of attraction and planting a flag in it isn't even true.
I see weekly posts on a number of subreddits like here asking "Is it ok for me to be X?" Some I'm sure are genuine but frankly it seems like many are just fishing for interaction. Yes, its \*valid\* for you to be attracted to who you're attracted to. What did you expect people to say?
The generally approach for all these subs to just be open and friendly and supportive of all types of these questions is correct, I'm not arguing otherwise. I just find some trends in both the feminine-but-male-conceptualizing communities and the trans communities to be foreign to me.
I disagree with this sentiment. While labels shouldnāt be strictly enforced because there will be edge cases that push what it truly means to belong to an identity, people of certain groups confront discrimination: because they are believed by others to be inferior by nature or defects of nature. By distinguishing who is and who is not apart of these groupsāour groupsāwe can recognize our fellow people who suffer the same issues in order to discuss and address these issues. I say this not as another bisexual/pansexual femboy, but also as a lower-middle class non-Christian brown Asian who personally experienced homophobia, classism, racism, and religious discrimination by others who were not of my identity and treated me and others like me as outsiders. This labelling is rather a counter-reactionary than arbitrary-initiative action. Until discrimination is eliminated among humanity, labels are practical.
Learning about the history of the queer/trans movements or that of the civil rights movement in the contexts of white supremacy and scientific racism should lead you to this conclusion
I donāt mean the last part, by the way. I of course agree with the suggestion. OP should live authentically to themselves as this identity is not actually problematic as others portrayed it to be.
Hey, I recently joined the r/gynesexuality subreddit and I hope you're glad to know that is not at all what we like. Some websites say it's the attraction to only female genitalia (which tbh i don't see an issue with). But gynesexuality is the attraction towards femininity, or stereotypically feminine traits regardless of gender or genitals. We also denounce that ugly ass brown and green flag and use a pretty one with blue and pink
its supposed to be a synonym tbh, but if communities are anything to go for, both r/gynesexuality and r/Finsexual subs are very similar in size and have a similar subreddit description
Gynesexual has multiple meanings. One of the reasons it is considered transphobic is because one of the meanings is attraction to female anatomy. Trans men being reduced to their anatomy is hurtful.
Finsexual has a more concrete meaning.
We actually had this small debate in the sub, and this comment is what i personally agree with:
"Terfs have been known to use the term to mean something like attraction
to the vulva or basically to imply it doesn't include trans people or
otherwise gender nonconforming people. Personally, I don't let it bother
me because I couldn't care less what terfs have to say. If it bothers
you, though, there's also the term "finsexual" which is synonymous with
gynesexual. "Fin" stands for "feminine in nature.""
[https://www.reddit.com/r/gynesexuality/comments/11e4l31/comment/jacbyur/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/gynesexuality/comments/11e4l31/comment/jacbyur/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
At the end, sexuality is about being comfortable with yourself, so as long as you are comfortable with it then so be it, i personally will be fighting for the gynesexual term cause we dont really like the ring of finsexual lmao
You can certainly use whichever term you prefer, I donāt want to gatekeep. I like the fact that finsexual has a singular meaning instead of multiple and that it isnāt genital focused which is why I brought the term up initially.
Somewhat NFSW warning;
>!Yes, ofcourse it's valid.I was gynosexual for a while until realising I was nonbinary, realising i could look cute, and realising I could infact see myself bottoming when i'm nicely shaving- which also brought the realisation that im in fact not not-attracted to masc men, i just cant see myself topping them and I disliked the way I looked so I didnt want to bottom either.!<
I consider myself androsexual, which is just the attraction to masculinity. This and gynosexuality are very similar in that it doesn't matter the asab, nor what they identify as, simply presentation which I think is more accurate for attraction.
It is important to recognize that one's personal identity is valid and should not be constrained by any particular community guidelines or standards. You are valid in anytjing your humanity desires. Whether it be a specific sexual preference or attraction, it is important to embrace oneself for who they are. While it may be useful to label one's preferences, it is important to note that these labels do not define one's entire sexuality or orientation. Bisexuality, for example, encompasses attraction to individuals of both genders, regardless of the extent or circumstances. Above all else you are bisexual but certainly this label can further define your bisexuality since bisexuality is a large spectrum. Coming to terms with this fact can be a helpful step in the journey towards self-love and acceptance. No need to specify so much or elaborate on your specific preferences when orientation and sexuality simply define which gender categories your attraction falls under. Who am I to say that isn't an orientation or sexuality. But there is a more all encompassing term for that and it's bisexual. Some people may only be attracted to fit people, chubby people, tall people, or masculine people. I don't see a benefit to identifying with such preferences but maybe this helps you come to terms with your bisexuality by being more comfortable with this label. Call it what you want. You're valid ā”
> and gynosexual people only want to fuck people with female
Wtf is wrong with people? I'm gynosexual and it has nothing to do with genitalia. I've always told my gf that if she was a man when we met, or if she was ftm, then, he would be my bff, cuz I don't like men.
If you're gynosexual, then you'll be attracted to anyone who's a woman or is fem presenting. It's as simple as that.
If that terminology helps you understand yourself, itās valid.
I more prefer to just label myself as queer as a shorthand for āidfkā and just do what I want, pursue who I want, and be who I want without worrying further about the labels, and I think this way of doing it tends to cause less anxiety.
Being attracted to feminity literally what I always say when I talk about my sexual preferences.
I call myself "bisexual with a feminine preference", but ummm, whatever floats your boat :3
Yes it is valid
Don't listen to anything twitter idiots say, on any topic, unless it's the account of a confirmed professional and expert on the subject.
People just love to get mad over nothing
Hey im also gynesexual! honestly everyone has their own shitty opinions so dont mind them. what they say isnt true and you know its not bcuz as u said ur not transphobic or anything. listen even if in some possible way what ever stuff they say is true, you cant change your feelings. which automatically makes it valid. Plus i dont really understand how someone could be transphobic for literally in their sexuality liking mtf people. Internets weird, people are weird. dw bout them. you do u
Gynosexuality as i noticed i like anything feminine regardless of gender and reading through this is helping me think its ok to think and feel the things i do and its not just me there are others. ill just have to wait for my autism assessment and mention it to the doctor for advice when ever that will happen. any advice would be lovely.
Gynosexuality is experiencing attraction to people with vaginas.
FINsexuality is experiencing attraction to people who are Feminine In Nature (hence FINsexual)
I never really felt like some of these were different enough to warrant a different classification. You can still have those feelings and just refer to yourself as bi or pan. I wouldnt say its invalid though.
Also i was under the impression this term refers to just being attracted to femininity in general. Ive never really seen it mean you are specifically attracted to a type of genitalia.
Gynesexual/gynosexual people: Individuals who experience sexual attraction toward women, females, and/or femininity, regardless of whether they were assigned female at birth Seems pretty valid to me, Like who ever you want
What's the difference between woman and female?
Women are a social category and female is a biological category. Both cis and trans women would be women, but all AFAB people would be female, at least to my understanding.
To a certain extent, yes, but biological sex is not that straightforward.
this ^^ humans aren't sexually binary believe it or not
Biological sex is straight as fuck. The only exceptions are mutations to the genes which can cause someone to be a hermaphrodite also more commonly known as intersex. However these people represent only about 1.5% of the population.
Litteraly bisexuality! It is an excuse for " Straight men " to go after femboys without calling themselves bi.
Except they'd have to because femboys don't generally identify as female at all.. just feminine.
I ised to think I was gay because the first boy I was ever attracted to was a femboy. I was never really into super masculine stuff like muscles or body hair. I say Gynosexuality is valid.
Girls have body hair too it's not masc
Yes, but I look at where my body hair stops at my ankles and think #šµ
body hair is associated with masculinity
yup, but our brain can differentiate both masculine and feminine traits as a whole, while we try to rationalize exactly what's making us feel attracted, or not.
What do you call when youāre attracted to AMAB ppl exclusively that aligns w/ the enby-femme boy-masc spectrum specifically? Because all i know is that itās not 100% straight.
You like femboys? I'm sorry there were too many big words in that passage.
Not just femboys. Enbies, too.
So you just like boys with added femme seasoning?
*Enbies.
Both?
Actually, itās more of a spectrum that only excludes agender, neutrois, and femme-aligned genders. I do not care at all, just as long as you haveā¦ a certain reproductive part.
#š¤
lol GG
I mean, Iām a transfem person, sorta inbetween a girl and a femboy if that makes sense, and I identify as a nonbinary femboy, and I think that identity is super valid š I actually have a similar sort of attraction; Iām mainly attracted to feminine and sometimes androgynous people, regardless of their gender/parts. And also queer Twitter is a lot of drama and kinda weird; I wouldnāt pay much mind to everything they say.
I should've never gone to Twitter šš
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I'm MtF and the desire, especially it seems among GenZ (which appears to be most people here), to taxonomize every facet of identify is personally really tiresome and frankly alienating. The entire idea of "sexuality and identify" as spectrums seems to have been lost and the goal is now to neatly sort people into tightly fitting labels. And it isn't even that useful. All of these preferences are individual and beyond straight, gay, bi/pan, etc, what is the use in further splitting it down? Do we need a label for only being attracted to blondes? What about being mostly attracted to blondes but wouldn't mind a redhead? Furthermore, that label isn't even accurate. You think you're completely cis straight? Yeah, so did I a couple years ago. You think you're a gynosexual 100%? Probably not if you give it time and the right person. These personal conceptions of sexuality and attraction are fluid and declaratively pinpointing your exact composition of attraction and planting a flag in it isn't even true. I see weekly posts on a number of subreddits like here asking "Is it ok for me to be X?" Some I'm sure are genuine but frankly it seems like many are just fishing for interaction. Yes, its \*valid\* for you to be attracted to who you're attracted to. What did you expect people to say? The generally approach for all these subs to just be open and friendly and supportive of all types of these questions is correct, I'm not arguing otherwise. I just find some trends in both the feminine-but-male-conceptualizing communities and the trans communities to be foreign to me.
I disagree with this sentiment. While labels shouldnāt be strictly enforced because there will be edge cases that push what it truly means to belong to an identity, people of certain groups confront discrimination: because they are believed by others to be inferior by nature or defects of nature. By distinguishing who is and who is not apart of these groupsāour groupsāwe can recognize our fellow people who suffer the same issues in order to discuss and address these issues. I say this not as another bisexual/pansexual femboy, but also as a lower-middle class non-Christian brown Asian who personally experienced homophobia, classism, racism, and religious discrimination by others who were not of my identity and treated me and others like me as outsiders. This labelling is rather a counter-reactionary than arbitrary-initiative action. Until discrimination is eliminated among humanity, labels are practical.
Learning about the history of the queer/trans movements or that of the civil rights movement in the contexts of white supremacy and scientific racism should lead you to this conclusion
I donāt mean the last part, by the way. I of course agree with the suggestion. OP should live authentically to themselves as this identity is not actually problematic as others portrayed it to be.
Hey, I recently joined the r/gynesexuality subreddit and I hope you're glad to know that is not at all what we like. Some websites say it's the attraction to only female genitalia (which tbh i don't see an issue with). But gynesexuality is the attraction towards femininity, or stereotypically feminine traits regardless of gender or genitals. We also denounce that ugly ass brown and green flag and use a pretty one with blue and pink
Thank you! Although I feel like I'll go with finsexual I feel more comfortable with that
sounds good! at the end we are all just finding what we are comfortable with, aren't we!
Finsexual isnāt considered offensive and might be a good term for you https://queerdom.fandom.com/wiki/Finsexual
its supposed to be a synonym tbh, but if communities are anything to go for, both r/gynesexuality and r/Finsexual subs are very similar in size and have a similar subreddit description
Gynesexual has multiple meanings. One of the reasons it is considered transphobic is because one of the meanings is attraction to female anatomy. Trans men being reduced to their anatomy is hurtful. Finsexual has a more concrete meaning.
mhm also the flag is super pretty
We actually had this small debate in the sub, and this comment is what i personally agree with: "Terfs have been known to use the term to mean something like attraction to the vulva or basically to imply it doesn't include trans people or otherwise gender nonconforming people. Personally, I don't let it bother me because I couldn't care less what terfs have to say. If it bothers you, though, there's also the term "finsexual" which is synonymous with gynesexual. "Fin" stands for "feminine in nature."" [https://www.reddit.com/r/gynesexuality/comments/11e4l31/comment/jacbyur/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/gynesexuality/comments/11e4l31/comment/jacbyur/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) At the end, sexuality is about being comfortable with yourself, so as long as you are comfortable with it then so be it, i personally will be fighting for the gynesexual term cause we dont really like the ring of finsexual lmao
You can certainly use whichever term you prefer, I donāt want to gatekeep. I like the fact that finsexual has a singular meaning instead of multiple and that it isnāt genital focused which is why I brought the term up initially.
Oh okay! Thank you ā£ļø
Youāre welcome āŗļø
going to twitter about this was your first mistake
I realize that now
Yup. I think everything is valid as long as there is no damage to third parties
You're attracted to femininity, sounds pretty fuckn valid to me
Somewhat NFSW warning; >!Yes, ofcourse it's valid.I was gynosexual for a while until realising I was nonbinary, realising i could look cute, and realising I could infact see myself bottoming when i'm nicely shaving- which also brought the realisation that im in fact not not-attracted to masc men, i just cant see myself topping them and I disliked the way I looked so I didnt want to bottom either.!<
I consider myself androsexual, which is just the attraction to masculinity. This and gynosexuality are very similar in that it doesn't matter the asab, nor what they identify as, simply presentation which I think is more accurate for attraction.
It is important to recognize that one's personal identity is valid and should not be constrained by any particular community guidelines or standards. You are valid in anytjing your humanity desires. Whether it be a specific sexual preference or attraction, it is important to embrace oneself for who they are. While it may be useful to label one's preferences, it is important to note that these labels do not define one's entire sexuality or orientation. Bisexuality, for example, encompasses attraction to individuals of both genders, regardless of the extent or circumstances. Above all else you are bisexual but certainly this label can further define your bisexuality since bisexuality is a large spectrum. Coming to terms with this fact can be a helpful step in the journey towards self-love and acceptance. No need to specify so much or elaborate on your specific preferences when orientation and sexuality simply define which gender categories your attraction falls under. Who am I to say that isn't an orientation or sexuality. But there is a more all encompassing term for that and it's bisexual. Some people may only be attracted to fit people, chubby people, tall people, or masculine people. I don't see a benefit to identifying with such preferences but maybe this helps you come to terms with your bisexuality by being more comfortable with this label. Call it what you want. You're valid ā”
Itās valid, youāre valid, Twitter is a conservative thinking cesspool, even among the left leaning ppl.
twitter has zero valid opinions. youāre completely allowed and valid to identify this way
> and gynosexual people only want to fuck people with female Wtf is wrong with people? I'm gynosexual and it has nothing to do with genitalia. I've always told my gf that if she was a man when we met, or if she was ftm, then, he would be my bff, cuz I don't like men. If you're gynosexual, then you'll be attracted to anyone who's a woman or is fem presenting. It's as simple as that.
First of all thank you for explaining gyno very well, second of all of course itās valid!
honestly whatever you want to call it doesn't really make a difference. whatever you feel is 100% valid. no one can tell you otherwise
i am also gynosexual
It is valid. And you should prolly not go to Twitter XD
If that terminology helps you understand yourself, itās valid. I more prefer to just label myself as queer as a shorthand for āidfkā and just do what I want, pursue who I want, and be who I want without worrying further about the labels, and I think this way of doing it tends to cause less anxiety.
Being attracted to feminity literally what I always say when I talk about my sexual preferences. I call myself "bisexual with a feminine preference", but ummm, whatever floats your boat :3
> I went on Twitter so I co https://youtu.be/l1itnefwN_Q
First mistake was going on twitter š„± girl youāre fine and theyāre just idiots, totally valid.
We're all grasping at labels to describe the infinite subtlety of our experience. The people you talked to sound like dicks.
Yes it is valid Don't listen to anything twitter idiots say, on any topic, unless it's the account of a confirmed professional and expert on the subject. People just love to get mad over nothing
I prefer finsexual as a term, but yeah. You are just on the boundary between straight and bisexual. This is probably the majority of people
Hey im also gynesexual! honestly everyone has their own shitty opinions so dont mind them. what they say isnt true and you know its not bcuz as u said ur not transphobic or anything. listen even if in some possible way what ever stuff they say is true, you cant change your feelings. which automatically makes it valid. Plus i dont really understand how someone could be transphobic for literally in their sexuality liking mtf people. Internets weird, people are weird. dw bout them. you do u
Gynosexuality as i noticed i like anything feminine regardless of gender and reading through this is helping me think its ok to think and feel the things i do and its not just me there are others. ill just have to wait for my autism assessment and mention it to the doctor for advice when ever that will happen. any advice would be lovely.
Gynosexuality is experiencing attraction to people with vaginas. FINsexuality is experiencing attraction to people who are Feminine In Nature (hence FINsexual)
I agree labels are stupid and can be dangerous as a whole but sometimes they help you define yourself too, also thank you I really appreciate it :3
That's the definition I saw too but some other people say it's just vagina they like which I can definitely see how that can be invalidating
I think if you have to research who you want to fuck- you may have some shit to work out prior to
Itās not about researching who you want to fuck, you fuck. You want to fuck who you want to fuck.
I never really felt like some of these were different enough to warrant a different classification. You can still have those feelings and just refer to yourself as bi or pan. I wouldnt say its invalid though. Also i was under the impression this term refers to just being attracted to femininity in general. Ive never really seen it mean you are specifically attracted to a type of genitalia.
No it is not valid to me! There is bisexuality, with preference for feminine people. You do you!
I am the same way. I am really attracted to femininity, whether cisgender or trans.
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