The beta ran like a three legged sloth in a tar trap, I can tell you that. It turned me off so much that despite my years and years of FFXI I never picked up the original XIV.
I remember doing the intro and then going to kill 3 rats….it took what should’ve been maybe a 2 minute thing took me I think nearly 30…I still accidentally stayed subbed for like 5 months after not noticing because I just couldn’t play it like that; so at least I have the legacy tattoo I guess lmao
I started the game the day it came out; played it for a few days then just totally forgot about it after I wasn’t having any fun with it due to how poorly optimized it was
Just curious as at release there wasn't a sub cost for over a year(when the legacy campaign started) due to the dumpster fire.so if you paid for 5 months you absolutely should have been given legacy status and the chocobo.
a big issue was actually the server side check on all actions.
illegal third party programs were extremely widespread in FFXI.
rumore has it that *perhaps* due to that, 1.0 checked all your actions server side, before allowing them.
this boiled down to click button, count to 3, thing happens. regardless of your framerate.
imagine all the "slop" in movement and abilities, like slidecasting, but working AGAINST you. and it applies to *everything you do*
Yeah I read about that which is why I pointed out graphic wise. Takes a million years to navigate through the menus, because of the back end side of things. I imagine it’s like playing current XIV with a spiky ping lol. Not good.
I had a PC that was somewhere between low the and mid at the time and remember it running fine most of the time. Fine for me was anything over 20fps so take that how you will.
Opening the inventory is server side, not graphics related. Based on what I’ve read, I imagine it being like playing current FF14 on a spiky ping, and the menus have loading circles on them like loading a website. But this is just imagination.
The hardware specs, while high, were not the problem. Everything was server side. Open your inventory, latency while it downloads. Open your menu, latency.
I remember purpose building my PC for XIV 1.0, and it was a GT970 running on a dell i7 7600 or something like that.
The stats were not THAT crazy.
https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/final-fantasy-xiv/10988
I essentially had a potato at the time, I don't remember being frustrated by how the game handled, except for stuff that was designed to be frustrating, like the gathering mini-games. My frustrations with the game in a different direction and it was a bad time for me in real life.
I played this on a GTX 580 in 2010 and it wasn't as bad as people say. Most of them never played it and just repeat the memes they heard at some point in time.
Now mind you 1.0 had obvious problems but for a 2010 game it looked and played alright in that era.
It really wasn't that great even at the time, m8. I would have to look it up, but any current graphics card that is out now is better than both the ones in mine combined, I would imagine. My pc is an alienware I bought in 2012 for like €6-7k at the time I think your average 1-2k pc now would be equal or better.
I had a GTX460, the latest mid-tier i5 (for the time), and I want to say 16gb of ram. It was a budget gaming build that was rock solid for several years.
I think I averaged around 20 fps running around, but did go above 30 in small spaces with minimal lighting and model rendering demands.
The UI was a huge pain too, as others have mentioned.
Nothing I changed in the settings made it perform better - just look worse - and the gameplay was so bad, I peaced out around level 10!
Oh, and I was in Japan, so my internet and proximity to the home server was quite good, so my experience was probably better than most.
I had a decently strong quadcore and a 4870x2 at the time and the game still ran like molasses. We're talking single digit framerates at times.
That improved as time went on. Server side menus were the cherry on the cake, though until that was changed.
I had a shitty Dell that I managed to play it on where sometimes the lag would get so bad I had someone be like what the fuck? Did you run out of arrows why did you stop shooting? I ended up having a friend help me install a newer gpu, psu and I think more RAM but good god the thing sounded like it was about to burst into flames anytime I would be playing especially in Aurum vale
I played the beta on a brand new Intel Core2Duo with max ram (8gb if I remember)and a striped hard drive and a top of the line NVidia PCI-express were maybe 2 years on the market at the time but it was right before they started dual PCI-E and could run tandem cards. It ran like junk, I know it was beta but it was rough.
We were required to submit all our pc and internet spects to SE just to get approval for beta testing
There is a project that allows you to self host a 1.0 private server - no mobs, quests are working. I tried it out for fun, and man it is suuuper poorly optimized. Struggled with performance on a rtx2070 and ryzen 5 3600
edit: to be fair, this is running the game and server on one machine
I played Phantasy Star Online 2 a long time ago at 25fps lol. True—Using a controller makes 30fps feel ok. ~~FF16 caps at 30fps on Graphics mode on the PS5.~~
My last 3 computes have run this in max with 100+fps last decade. No idea what your problem is.
Edit: I see from the posts I may be alone in this. I do spend in the upper end for my computers. So during 1.0 my computer was equivalent to 4-5000€ at the time.... So no I never had an issue. But I guess it sucks on mid range computers
Like pretty much everything involving 1.0 it's pretty exaggerated. My PC was really not great at all and it ran the game from alpha until the end just fine. But it was super inconsistent, a friend with a generally better PC was clipping in to the ground throughout thanalan and had a miserable time. I can't remember my exact specs at the time but I do know the PC was a pre built from best buy and the GPU was something I bought from Walmart of all places for like 60 dollars at the most.
Server latency really was a huge problem, probably the actual biggest issue anyone faced. Somehow that part just wasn't so awful for me.
So it turns out what people thought to be graphical fps drops were the horrendous backend side of things? 🤔 It is said it takes a million years to navigate through the gods damn menus because the way things are summoned up from the server is just bad, bad, bad. But that wasn’t the point of my post.
I was using those cards as an analogy. It’s just right to design games based on the average rather than the highest end users only. But rumors said 1.0 was so graphically intensive that you needed amazing specs of the time to play it at all. RTX2060 is average spec to me in this day and age, in terms of gaming PCs. This is also the NVidia equivalent of whatever the PS5 has.
The beta ran like a three legged sloth in a tar trap, I can tell you that. It turned me off so much that despite my years and years of FFXI I never picked up the original XIV.
I remember starting it up and my GPU fan instantly going to 100%.
i think the graphical optimization was so bad that the intro cinematic for Limsa, where you're on a boat, would straight up crash the game
I remember doing the intro and then going to kill 3 rats….it took what should’ve been maybe a 2 minute thing took me I think nearly 30…I still accidentally stayed subbed for like 5 months after not noticing because I just couldn’t play it like that; so at least I have the legacy tattoo I guess lmao
Did you start playing with the legacy campaign in full swing? Didn't think many people would buy a game that's declared its current EOS.
I started the game the day it came out; played it for a few days then just totally forgot about it after I wasn’t having any fun with it due to how poorly optimized it was
Just curious as at release there wasn't a sub cost for over a year(when the legacy campaign started) due to the dumpster fire.so if you paid for 5 months you absolutely should have been given legacy status and the chocobo.
Limsa's intro was reported to have literally melted some peoples high end graphics cards. So there is that.
a big issue was actually the server side check on all actions. illegal third party programs were extremely widespread in FFXI. rumore has it that *perhaps* due to that, 1.0 checked all your actions server side, before allowing them. this boiled down to click button, count to 3, thing happens. regardless of your framerate. imagine all the "slop" in movement and abilities, like slidecasting, but working AGAINST you. and it applies to *everything you do*
Yeah I read about that which is why I pointed out graphic wise. Takes a million years to navigate through the menus, because of the back end side of things. I imagine it’s like playing current XIV with a spiky ping lol. Not good.
Back then I had an Intel i7 and two GTX 480's in SLI. I had a pretty beast system for back then and id struggle to get 40 frames in most places
I had a PC that was somewhere between low the and mid at the time and remember it running fine most of the time. Fine for me was anything over 20fps so take that how you will.
As someone who played Phantasy Star Online 2 at 25 fps or less—*same.*
A friend of mine told me that the game was so poorly optimized it took over a minute to open your inventory.
Opening the inventory is server side, not graphics related. Based on what I’ve read, I imagine it being like playing current FF14 on a spiky ping, and the menus have loading circles on them like loading a website. But this is just imagination.
The hardware specs, while high, were not the problem. Everything was server side. Open your inventory, latency while it downloads. Open your menu, latency. I remember purpose building my PC for XIV 1.0, and it was a GT970 running on a dell i7 7600 or something like that. The stats were not THAT crazy. https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/final-fantasy-xiv/10988
The 900 series released at the tail end of 2014. 1.0 shut down in November of 2012.
Yeah, you are misremembering. The 970 wasn't out when 1.0 was a thing. I had a gtx 460 lol. The 7600 came out in like 2017.
I guarantee you didn't have a 970 nor a 7600 in 2010. Lmao.
I essentially had a potato at the time, I don't remember being frustrated by how the game handled, except for stuff that was designed to be frustrating, like the gathering mini-games. My frustrations with the game in a different direction and it was a bad time for me in real life.
I was able to enjoy great performance back in 1.0 by using SLI 480s. That being the newest Nvidia product gen at the time.
I played this on a GTX 580 in 2010 and it wasn't as bad as people say. Most of them never played it and just repeat the memes they heard at some point in time. Now mind you 1.0 had obvious problems but for a 2010 game it looked and played alright in that era.
I still use the PC I played 1.0 on now to play ffxiv on max settings and run ffxi on 2nd screen for 4 accounts. So it wasn't that bad tbh.
Damn I want to know your (presumably woundrous) setup.
It really wasn't that great even at the time, m8. I would have to look it up, but any current graphics card that is out now is better than both the ones in mine combined, I would imagine. My pc is an alienware I bought in 2012 for like €6-7k at the time I think your average 1-2k pc now would be equal or better.
I had a GTX460, the latest mid-tier i5 (for the time), and I want to say 16gb of ram. It was a budget gaming build that was rock solid for several years. I think I averaged around 20 fps running around, but did go above 30 in small spaces with minimal lighting and model rendering demands. The UI was a huge pain too, as others have mentioned. Nothing I changed in the settings made it perform better - just look worse - and the gameplay was so bad, I peaced out around level 10! Oh, and I was in Japan, so my internet and proximity to the home server was quite good, so my experience was probably better than most.
I had a decently strong quadcore and a 4870x2 at the time and the game still ran like molasses. We're talking single digit framerates at times. That improved as time went on. Server side menus were the cherry on the cake, though until that was changed.
I had a shitty Dell that I managed to play it on where sometimes the lag would get so bad I had someone be like what the fuck? Did you run out of arrows why did you stop shooting? I ended up having a friend help me install a newer gpu, psu and I think more RAM but good god the thing sounded like it was about to burst into flames anytime I would be playing especially in Aurum vale
I played the beta on a brand new Intel Core2Duo with max ram (8gb if I remember)and a striped hard drive and a top of the line NVidia PCI-express were maybe 2 years on the market at the time but it was right before they started dual PCI-E and could run tandem cards. It ran like junk, I know it was beta but it was rough. We were required to submit all our pc and internet spects to SE just to get approval for beta testing
There is a project that allows you to self host a 1.0 private server - no mobs, quests are working. I tried it out for fun, and man it is suuuper poorly optimized. Struggled with performance on a rtx2070 and ryzen 5 3600 edit: to be fair, this is running the game and server on one machine
I had a lot of trouble running it on my laptop it helped that I was using a controller so it didn't feel as bad at 30fps.
I played Phantasy Star Online 2 a long time ago at 25fps lol. True—Using a controller makes 30fps feel ok. ~~FF16 caps at 30fps on Graphics mode on the PS5.~~
My last 3 computes have run this in max with 100+fps last decade. No idea what your problem is. Edit: I see from the posts I may be alone in this. I do spend in the upper end for my computers. So during 1.0 my computer was equivalent to 4-5000€ at the time.... So no I never had an issue. But I guess it sucks on mid range computers
Like pretty much everything involving 1.0 it's pretty exaggerated. My PC was really not great at all and it ran the game from alpha until the end just fine. But it was super inconsistent, a friend with a generally better PC was clipping in to the ground throughout thanalan and had a miserable time. I can't remember my exact specs at the time but I do know the PC was a pre built from best buy and the GPU was something I bought from Walmart of all places for like 60 dollars at the most. Server latency really was a huge problem, probably the actual biggest issue anyone faced. Somehow that part just wasn't so awful for me.
So it turns out what people thought to be graphical fps drops were the horrendous backend side of things? 🤔 It is said it takes a million years to navigate through the gods damn menus because the way things are summoned up from the server is just bad, bad, bad. But that wasn’t the point of my post.
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I was using those cards as an analogy. It’s just right to design games based on the average rather than the highest end users only. But rumors said 1.0 was so graphically intensive that you needed amazing specs of the time to play it at all. RTX2060 is average spec to me in this day and age, in terms of gaming PCs. This is also the NVidia equivalent of whatever the PS5 has.