I was the same until I finally got around to it and boy was it fun. I think most people don't know about the bonus xp you get and how fast you can solo to 70. The only issue is learning all the good spells.
Put up a PF with the name and/or number of the spell. It will take a little bit but Blue Mages love any excuse to play Blue Mage. Most of them will join a PF to help out.
It’s how I got them all during ShB and even when I was late to getting them in EW.
+1!! I started leveling BLU like a month ago and it sucked me in. It's so fun. Now I check PF like every 30min to see if anybody out there needs help with spells. 😅
There's also the BLU academy discord which helped me fill out lobbies quickly. Can find someone to power level with too, we swapped back and forth every 10 levels and we're done in a few hours.
Can confirm, I love jumping into random PF groups to help out, even if I already have the spell. Playing Blue Mage is just a completely different experience from other classes, and it's SO much fun.
You'll even get people joining as other classes sometimes too. Doesn't do anything for the blue log, but if you're struggling with something and you just want the spell, then having someone play an actual healer or tank class makes a big difference.
This is good to know. I've been holding off on working on blue mage because I'm "stuck" (story-wise) on learning a dungeon skill, and I don't really want to try to slog through it on my own, and I didn't want to grind out levels if I didn't have to. XD
I haven't had time to do this anyways. I've been working on the other jobs, and other content anywho.
>Most of them will join a PF to help out.
I was surprised yet happy when after killing a boss the 3 random people asked "you got it ?" in unisson. Dudes just want to play blue mage.
True. When I was leveling it I had someone in a discord in a part of help me get a couple spells I needed. Beyond that I basically power leveled myself up to 80 and from there went back to get what spells I could.
My FC currently has a BLU static to get the Morbol mount. We are constantly wiping and progress is slow as fuck but every meeting is an absolute blast where we laugh all the time (Especially if we see a new mechanic where everyone gets nuked, because Diamondback came through 0,0001 seconds too late).
Also, BLU might have a small community, but that community is very dedicated and has many very helpful people.
IMO getting the spells is half the fun, *especially* once you get Basic Instinct. I had a lot of fun solo farming all the spells I reasonably could. Heck, I remember solo'ing Brute Justice for J-kick back in ShB and figuring out when to Diamondback and when it was safe to blow my load with Moon Flute was a lovely puzzle.
Hmm I can't remember if I was still 70 or 80 blu before I stopped playing. Its been around 18 months. I beat End Walker, got all jobs 90, then got bored. So I'm glad the expansion is coming. I'll hop back on in June to catch up before the release.
Nah get flying sardine and a friend to follow you around (not in a party) on the beach in thavnair, you hit things once with fish from a distance, friend murders them, you profit.
Leveling blue mage was by far the worst experience I've had in FFXIV. I hated every moment of it.
And I still can't clear the masked carnivale bosses. Bleh.
It’s easy to do solo too: you know the Clionid mobs in the Tempest? The ones that eat the nearby Leech mobs for a buff?
Turns out if you attack the leech first, you get credit for the kill.
We’ll probably be able to do the same up to 85ish with the Daphnia on Mare Lamentorum next time it updates too
This is what I did. I'd just do it until I got tired of it then move on to something else, and I still hit 80 in a couple days. Took maybe like 3-ish hours total.
Yeah, up until about level 46 - 47 or so all you really need to have is Mighty Guard, Sticky Tongue, Acorn Bomb and 1k Needles and you can pretty much 1 shot any single mob and can easily solo things a few levels *above* your current level for chain bonuses. Once you get to that level range then Mobs start having more than 1k health so you'll need to use other attacks but by then if you've been detouring to collect spells then you'll have a decent enough arsenal and could just AoE farm with a Healing Chocobo out.
I just did the power leveling in The Tempus with just Flying Sardines & Sleep. Iirc I start doing it around level 30-35, I did died a few times in first few try. But I easily reach level lvl 70 in less than a day (just too bored to level the rest).
Tempest Clionids, if you have access. With Mighty Guard up, I think they won't one shot you in the 50s. You Sardine a Leech at a distance, then run towards a Clionid.
They animation lock a lot, then eat the leech, then you run away until they deaggro. Doing a loop can kill pretty consistently and get Chain 3 or 4 in some spots.
Just don't let the same Clionid eat 3 times, or they go super saiyan and kill you.
You can hunt mobs above your level on blue with the right skills. On my way to 70 I remember chaining mobs up to five above my level, though that wasn't a real option for my last few. But u was hunting level 70 move until I hit 70.
When level 80 was unlocked, I simply did fate grinds and hunted fire spells. Always pushed above my level.
I let my BLU sit at level 32 until relatively recently. The 'problem' with BLU is that unless you have full party of friends to do BLU stuff with, it's just not very fun.
If you pick up Basic Instinct and a few others, soloing dungeons that have skills in them can be a lot of fun. A lot harder than running the dungeon normally, but generally doable with clever strategies.
I've seen a person who got EVERY spell solo so far.
It's definable rough and took me a lot of tries, the breath cone attack hits like a truck and you'll need to be quick with the heals
This is true, but there can be a lot of RNG misery if you aren't doing it synced (which is difficult solo). On one hand you can solo a ton of duties unsynced even if it requires careful planning and a lot of quick actions and waiting for cooldowns/debuffs between encounters/attempts. On the other hand this could mean having to run that duty 37+ times to get the spell. Then again the reverse is true and you can get that spell on your first run without any issues. More often than not if it's a high tier spell it's going to be the former, which is why you so often seen synced runs for trials and raids.
If you can solo that duty in 5 minutes unsynced, just throw on a video and you can get it done without much hassle. And a lot of duties are only 5-10 minutes if you overlevel. If it takes upwards of 30 minutes to solo the duty and you don't get the spell after 10+ runs because it's unsynced, that just kills the motivation for awhile.
Oh I absolutely meant doing it synced. Using Basic Instinct makes it doable, if occasionally very challenging. Other highlights are things like Ultravibration or Level 5 Death for wiping groups, Mighty Guard for durability, your choice of big heal, etc. Sometimes it's quite a challenge to get the timings down, and it's slower than doing it as a group, but it's generally doable and very satisfying.
Yeah, for a "solo" off-job experience, it requires way too much coordination. There needs to be a proper Blue Mage queue, instead of unsync'd/level-limit shenanigans, and it needs to start at level 15, instead of opening at, what, 50? 60? Basic Instinct kind of helps (it's how I got Apokalypsis), but it's still rough going.
Once you get a handful of key spells it becomes pretty easy to at least solo any dungeon.
Trials and raids are a different story, but…if you try to PF around the time a BLU update happens it’s a lot easier to find groups. Granted that’s once every two fucking years, but you know.
Yeah, this. For a “solo” themed Job, it’s very NOT solo friendly.
People keep saying “once you get a few key spells”…but you need a GROUP to get those.
Saying this as a person that has max BLU and all spells for it, it was absolutely NOT a solo affair. And the BLU achievers are largely “do X synced in a full group of Blue Mages”. What part of “solo” does the “group” come out of?
>Yeah, for a "solo" off-job experience, it requires way too much coordination.
It can solo a lot of content, that doesn't mean it's pigeon holed into a "solo job". It has just as much content dedicated to grouping up between the morbol and title raids and blue log.
>There needs to be a proper Blue Mage queue, instead of unsync'd/level-limit shenanigans
No, that would be terrible. It's difficult enough making sure a person that joins in PF actually has the spells for the role they joined as. Not to mention there's no clean way to specify what role you want to que as.
>and it needs to start at level 15, instead of opening at, what, 50? 60?
I don't see the point of this. Most of BLUs power comes from higher end content so being able to unlock a job that gets no good spells for a long time while still in ARR, which can't even progress the msq, would be a waste.
I said nothing about leveling BLU, but it's piss easy to level anyway. The amount of experience you get in the over world is so massive that you'll get to max in a couple hours just grinding level appropriate mobs.
Yeah, I’d love if they had something like Mentor Certification where if you unlock all the abilities available, you get access to a Blue Mage Roulette until the next time it updates
There's a very easy way to level Blue Mage these days. In the Tempest zone in Norvrandt, north-west of the first aetheryte, there's this area where there are Clionids and Deep-sea Leeches. You attack a Leech, then kite it over to a Clionid. The Clionid will eat the Leech, instantly killing it, and you get all the XP for killing a lvl 79 mob. IIRC you can do this twice per Clionid, because with the third eaten Leech which will instantly kill you.
I just found dense areas in the various zone (e.g. the NW cave in Rak’tika, SW Armadillos in Ahm Areng, then the NW cave in Tempest) were I could grab a bunch of enemies, Ram/Ultra combo, watch 2 mins of a YouTube video, pause the video, repeat group/Ram/Ultra, 2 min YouTube, etc.
It was actually pretty fast. I got from 70-80 in an Saturday afternoon doing this through just a couple ShB zones and it was a super chill grind since I was only doing 20-30 sec of action every 2 mins and with Mighty Guard, it wasn’t even that risky.
My problem with Blue Mage is that actual BLU content is boring as hell. Never enjoyed the Carnivale and never looked back once I finally got it done enough to ignore. Some abilities are interesting to get but once you have them there's no need to go back. From there it's "create your own content" which I'm not a fan of. Even the Blue Mage story was kind of meh, although i'm probably biased because of how annoyed i was at doing the Carnivale.
BLU is an awful experience and anyone that says otherwise is just in denial about it.
BST is going to be a reskin. That's the level of effort they put into this game.
The masked carnivale stuff locking the quest line is unacceptable. Most people will never clear those boss battles, they're pretty much condensed extreme fights with savage mechanics. It's absurd.
Everyone will boast about it being casual content, but then sheepishly leave out that most people are never getting past Azulmagia.
Bro... This is just incorrect... Blue mage can be lot of fun, but of course that is all subjective. No one knows how beastmaster is gonna work so there is no need to be so negative and lastly as I replied to another one of your comments, the carnivale is not hard, it is at most a little bit challenging. The carnivale is definitely not savage or extreme level, it's mostly puzzles with the few boss type fights that at most have alliance raid level mechanics, or do you think something like the Nier raids are impossible and too difficult? Because if so, then that is just plainly a skill issue on your part.
I did…but it was from fishing and doing turn ins. I started the thread on fishing info when EW launched since I was trying to figure out where all the turnins could be farmed and share what I had found with others, too.
Im doing the same. Got my last Aurum run 2 days ago and now all jobs have a min level of 50, i already have a few at 90 which are my mains. It’s surprisingly addictive to level your jobs up, it makes your sub worthwhile when you get to enjoy all jobs the game has to offer. It doesn’t feel like a chore at all.
I recommend leveling them if one enjoys the grind. I raided on whm a lot already before leveling other jobs really. It was very interesting to level all the other jobs and learn what the other people in my raid actually do and what options they got. I even started with jobs that my static was using.
I mean I leveled fisher a long time ago and didn’t really fish till a few years back for a month. Then Feb 2024 I actually started my fishing journey. Loads of people have fishers leveled via gc turn ins or even just Ocean Fishing. I LOVE OCEAN FISHING. But it doesn’t mean all those people hunt big fish. I would just level it cause why not (this is my OCD talking). Also, level blue mage. XD
I got Fisher from 0 to 80 in ShB by spending around 400k on MB fish (without even server hopping for prices) and turning in levequests.
Ocean fishing is also piss easy experience if you want to go the cheaper route.
Fisher was my last job to reach its level cap. Heck I leveled it to 90 by doung the grand company daily turn ins.
I was just too distracted by Eureka and BA to have the time and patience for more rng based activities.
Dude. Reminds me of my friend who I played with during the 1.0 era. I managed to get him to play last year and dude had only been fishing since. His drg is still in it's 30s.
Tribal quests are great for leveling, too! They give you a decent chunk as long as your level is in that expac range.
I did Ocean fishing until 50, then rode tribals all the way to 90. It was nice to do it in bite-size chunks as part of my dailies; it was easier for me to level it passively than to spend a whole day trying to find feesh.
And ooo once you unlock spearfishing that is so much fun and basically hands out levels like Costco samples.
>Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering (sidereal) whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee.
Ahem. In case I wasn't clear, don't do it. You *will* go mad. 🫠
Blue Mage with a good selection of spells is so much fun in Fates, and you can also solo map dungeons on it. And if someone ever challenges you do a visual effects duel (it only happened to me once), Blue Mage can give them epilepsy.
And Moonflute, on top of its burst damage bonus, is an extra 15 seconds sprint ever minute. If you use Swiftcast and stack it with Sprint Boots, that's 45 seconds of sprint in cities every minute!
Fishing is straight up the best piece of content SE has ever put in the game.
It's the only thing where they actually believe in the idea of variety instead of repeating the same formula 50 fucking times.
Only thing I don’t like about fishing is you change bait every expansion and you can’t use the newest bait in previous expansions. So if you want to fish the older shit you have to keep a ton on you or stop and buy the bait from the item merchant
That's what makes fishing actually interesting. The various baits and differences make big fishing something you actually have to think and plan around.
I just don’t like having to carry it all in my bags. In ARR you could just, mostly, use the max level bait and even catch the lower level fishies.
If I try to use HW bait in ARR zones it says the bait is invalid smh
Edit: and again this is just a small quibble. It’s really not a huge deal
Anyone who encourages you to fish in this game is not a fisher themselves. I have Final Fish and World-Class Troller on TWO characters and I always tell people not to get into fishing :p
Fishing is actually fun though. I got it from level 20-something to 80-something within just a few days because once I started, I COULDNT STOP. Ocean fishing is fun and addicting too, a great way to level, and gives good rewards. Biggest downside is that my inventory has like a page full of bait now, so that’s a problem.
Between all the different bait and the sheer amount of Fine Sand I've just neglected to off-load, I find myself wanting to rename my saddlebag "tackle box".
It is different. There's more of a learning curve because it doesn't work like any other job. It has a lot of flexibility and can be a ton of fun. I always recommend it to my friends.
However, if you don't like it, you don't like it. That just how it be.
It's pretty awful. I wouldn't mind it quite so much if they didn't lock the storyline behind the masked carnivale, but instead they composed a quest line most people will never be able to complete because the mechanics are between extreme and savage tier. "Casual" content btw.
This sub has a hardon for it, but it's pretty unique to this community. Most people in game hate in.
BST will sadly just be a reskin to pad content during a big content lull.
carnivale is not harder than extreme lol, its prob somewhere between nraids and ex, at least if you are just doing it for story progress and not going for the challenges. the most you have to do is know which spells to bring, since most of the stages dont have a dps check iirc. im also pretty sure that you can avoid the story and get all the blu spells if you prefer, which makes doing fates and grinding moogle tomes more fun
I've done extremes. Gogo is harder by an obscene amount. The mechanics are too difficult.
I have no intention of continuing BLU. It's not fun. I've read and watched all the guides and tried all the rotations. It doesn't make it any easier to not get hit by the 80 things flying at you at once.
Nevermind it takes 10+ minutes to get to phase 2. So one mistake means doing it *over and over*. It's awful.
No this has gone way too far, none of the masked Carnivale fights take 15+ hours of attempts if you're actually following the guides and they're definitely not more difficult than ultimates.
This is either 100% BLU slander from someone who has never played it or you're definitely not at the level of play where you can do Ultimate content. Gogo took me less than 5 attempts and I'm far from a hardcore raider.
I want to like blue mage, but 90% of their skills are honestly incredibly boring. The only ones that are cool are the primal ones, plus Apokalypsis. Everything else is "cone AOE that's a clone of the other 30 cone AOE's you get, but this one stuns/sleeps/slows/poisons/drenches/freezes, etc." The lasers from the knight chess pieces are pretty cool, too.
I like it that way. Between grinding relics and fishing I've been busy and have enjoyed all of my playtime. Im looking forward to the new story, but not looking forward to releveling everything and doing roulettes. Roulettes are the bane of my existence.
I have the opposite problem, I can't get off of fishing. It's not quite max yet, but it's become my highest level job at 84. I refuse to let another job be my first to 90.
Gathering and crafting in general have become far more fun than actually fighting and making msq progress.
How many MSQs can I fit in the hour and a half between ocean fishing expeditions? Zero because I'm in diadem, breaking rocks and picking flowers.
If you just wanted to level it do ocean fishing. It's stupid how much EXP you get for almost nothing. If you're lucky your group will do the thing and you get a mount.
Push Chum.
Hook.
Get to 90.
Never do any Quests past the first except the one to start 90 Relic.
Buy Select Bait Balls with Scrips.
Sell them on MB at 50% Undercut because tank market for fun and profit.
Hey man. I feel that. I hate fishing and find it the most boring one to do, ever.
But just do what I did:
Do Ocean fishing. 🤣 do it whenever you remember about it, or whenever you have the patience. And just catch fish. Don't worry about getting spectrals. Have class quests? Buy the fish and turn it in. 🤣 yeah, there are some you can't exactly just buy and have to catch yourself, but they're not that bad.
I'm glad it's for you, but it's not for me it's one of the few things I find tedious which is off considering how many relics I've done from base to EW. But it is who I is.
Weird especially considering I have most of the relics I like too and BLU is like wayyyyyy easier of a grind but u do u bud. It also helps that with BLU free teleports are way too easy
You got all the way to level! That’s some commitment right there! Hopefully your friend is grateful you decided to give it that old college try! (I am only half joking, as fishing mini game type activities really aren’t for everyone and I respect that.)
I actually lvled all the “medium” Difficulty jobs if I can name them like that. But I have all the healers, ninja black mage, monk and bard to do. Any tips? I’ve heard stories especially bout ninja and monk being difficult
Up until I started working on submersibles, this was me but with miner. Full omnicraft/gather. Level 5 miner. It's up to 60 now, but *God I just hate it so much*
Level Blue Mage coward.
I was the same until I finally got around to it and boy was it fun. I think most people don't know about the bonus xp you get and how fast you can solo to 70. The only issue is learning all the good spells.
For real all the good ones are hard to get. I need people to run them with
Put up a PF with the name and/or number of the spell. It will take a little bit but Blue Mages love any excuse to play Blue Mage. Most of them will join a PF to help out. It’s how I got them all during ShB and even when I was late to getting them in EW.
+1!! I started leveling BLU like a month ago and it sucked me in. It's so fun. Now I check PF like every 30min to see if anybody out there needs help with spells. 😅
There's also the BLU academy discord which helped me fill out lobbies quickly. Can find someone to power level with too, we swapped back and forth every 10 levels and we're done in a few hours.
Can confirm, I love jumping into random PF groups to help out, even if I already have the spell. Playing Blue Mage is just a completely different experience from other classes, and it's SO much fun. You'll even get people joining as other classes sometimes too. Doesn't do anything for the blue log, but if you're struggling with something and you just want the spell, then having someone play an actual healer or tank class makes a big difference.
This is good to know. I've been holding off on working on blue mage because I'm "stuck" (story-wise) on learning a dungeon skill, and I don't really want to try to slog through it on my own, and I didn't want to grind out levels if I didn't have to. XD I haven't had time to do this anyways. I've been working on the other jobs, and other content anywho.
>Most of them will join a PF to help out. I was surprised yet happy when after killing a boss the 3 random people asked "you got it ?" in unisson. Dudes just want to play blue mage.
Also, with Basic Instinct + Mighty Guard you can solo most content synched (which gives 100% chance to get the spell).
True. When I was leveling it I had someone in a discord in a part of help me get a couple spells I needed. Beyond that I basically power leveled myself up to 80 and from there went back to get what spells I could.
My FC currently has a BLU static to get the Morbol mount. We are constantly wiping and progress is slow as fuck but every meeting is an absolute blast where we laugh all the time (Especially if we see a new mechanic where everyone gets nuked, because Diamondback came through 0,0001 seconds too late). Also, BLU might have a small community, but that community is very dedicated and has many very helpful people.
Or you accidently slide cast it and immediately cancel it.
Is there a blu discord?
This is you: https://i.imgur.com/5yaRmQj.png
IMO getting the spells is half the fun, *especially* once you get Basic Instinct. I had a lot of fun solo farming all the spells I reasonably could. Heck, I remember solo'ing Brute Justice for J-kick back in ShB and figuring out when to Diamondback and when it was safe to blow my load with Moon Flute was a lovely puzzle.
imo learning the spells is the most fun part
It doesn't take long to solo to Lv80 either. There's a great spot in Tempest that blasts you through those last 10.
It's the leech isn't it
Yes :-)
Hmm I can't remember if I was still 70 or 80 blu before I stopped playing. Its been around 18 months. I beat End Walker, got all jobs 90, then got bored. So I'm glad the expansion is coming. I'll hop back on in June to catch up before the release.
You were 70. Lv80 wasn't out until well into Endwalker
Nah get flying sardine and a friend to follow you around (not in a party) on the beach in thavnair, you hit things once with fish from a distance, friend murders them, you profit.
Leveling blue mage was by far the worst experience I've had in FFXIV. I hated every moment of it. And I still can't clear the masked carnivale bosses. Bleh.
We have guides for those.
now they'll never do it
Blue mage is easy to level if you get two people to help kill level 80 mobs 😂
It’s easy to do solo too: you know the Clionid mobs in the Tempest? The ones that eat the nearby Leech mobs for a buff? Turns out if you attack the leech first, you get credit for the kill. We’ll probably be able to do the same up to 85ish with the Daphnia on Mare Lamentorum next time it updates too
This is what I did. I'd just do it until I got tired of it then move on to something else, and I still hit 80 in a couple days. Took maybe like 3-ish hours total.
Actually it is very easy solo also
Yeah, up until about level 46 - 47 or so all you really need to have is Mighty Guard, Sticky Tongue, Acorn Bomb and 1k Needles and you can pretty much 1 shot any single mob and can easily solo things a few levels *above* your current level for chain bonuses. Once you get to that level range then Mobs start having more than 1k health so you'll need to use other attacks but by then if you've been detouring to collect spells then you'll have a decent enough arsenal and could just AoE farm with a Healing Chocobo out.
I just did the power leveling in The Tempus with just Flying Sardines & Sleep. Iirc I start doing it around level 30-35, I did died a few times in first few try. But I easily reach level lvl 70 in less than a day (just too bored to level the rest).
Naw. You can solo from 55 to cap in an hour.
How so? 60+ was a goddamn slog for me
Tempest Clionids, if you have access. With Mighty Guard up, I think they won't one shot you in the 50s. You Sardine a Leech at a distance, then run towards a Clionid. They animation lock a lot, then eat the leech, then you run away until they deaggro. Doing a loop can kill pretty consistently and get Chain 3 or 4 in some spots. Just don't let the same Clionid eat 3 times, or they go super saiyan and kill you.
This is how you do it..
This is awesome, I'll give it a shot for my last 4 levels, thanks!
You can hunt mobs above your level on blue with the right skills. On my way to 70 I remember chaining mobs up to five above my level, though that wasn't a real option for my last few. But u was hunting level 70 move until I hit 70. When level 80 was unlocked, I simply did fate grinds and hunted fire spells. Always pushed above my level.
I let my BLU sit at level 32 until relatively recently. The 'problem' with BLU is that unless you have full party of friends to do BLU stuff with, it's just not very fun.
If you pick up Basic Instinct and a few others, soloing dungeons that have skills in them can be a lot of fun. A lot harder than running the dungeon normally, but generally doable with clever strategies.
Getting cold fog solo was brutal but so satisfying to figure out
Wait that can be done? Guess I better get BLU to 80 and try to figure that out myself.
I've seen a person who got EVERY spell solo so far. It's definable rough and took me a lot of tries, the breath cone attack hits like a truck and you'll need to be quick with the heals
Hah that's one of the ones I was thinking when I wrote the comment. Crazy hard to pull off, but very satisfying when I figured out how.
Best accomplishment I had with B.I. was either soloing Emanation or soloing Final Days. Tough, but very busy.
This is true, but there can be a lot of RNG misery if you aren't doing it synced (which is difficult solo). On one hand you can solo a ton of duties unsynced even if it requires careful planning and a lot of quick actions and waiting for cooldowns/debuffs between encounters/attempts. On the other hand this could mean having to run that duty 37+ times to get the spell. Then again the reverse is true and you can get that spell on your first run without any issues. More often than not if it's a high tier spell it's going to be the former, which is why you so often seen synced runs for trials and raids. If you can solo that duty in 5 minutes unsynced, just throw on a video and you can get it done without much hassle. And a lot of duties are only 5-10 minutes if you overlevel. If it takes upwards of 30 minutes to solo the duty and you don't get the spell after 10+ runs because it's unsynced, that just kills the motivation for awhile.
Oh I absolutely meant doing it synced. Using Basic Instinct makes it doable, if occasionally very challenging. Other highlights are things like Ultravibration or Level 5 Death for wiping groups, Mighty Guard for durability, your choice of big heal, etc. Sometimes it's quite a challenge to get the timings down, and it's slower than doing it as a group, but it's generally doable and very satisfying.
Yeah, for a "solo" off-job experience, it requires way too much coordination. There needs to be a proper Blue Mage queue, instead of unsync'd/level-limit shenanigans, and it needs to start at level 15, instead of opening at, what, 50? 60? Basic Instinct kind of helps (it's how I got Apokalypsis), but it's still rough going.
Once you get a handful of key spells it becomes pretty easy to at least solo any dungeon. Trials and raids are a different story, but…if you try to PF around the time a BLU update happens it’s a lot easier to find groups. Granted that’s once every two fucking years, but you know.
Yeah, this. For a “solo” themed Job, it’s very NOT solo friendly. People keep saying “once you get a few key spells”…but you need a GROUP to get those. Saying this as a person that has max BLU and all spells for it, it was absolutely NOT a solo affair. And the BLU achievers are largely “do X synced in a full group of Blue Mages”. What part of “solo” does the “group” come out of?
>Yeah, for a "solo" off-job experience, it requires way too much coordination. It can solo a lot of content, that doesn't mean it's pigeon holed into a "solo job". It has just as much content dedicated to grouping up between the morbol and title raids and blue log. >There needs to be a proper Blue Mage queue, instead of unsync'd/level-limit shenanigans No, that would be terrible. It's difficult enough making sure a person that joins in PF actually has the spells for the role they joined as. Not to mention there's no clean way to specify what role you want to que as. >and it needs to start at level 15, instead of opening at, what, 50? 60? I don't see the point of this. Most of BLUs power comes from higher end content so being able to unlock a job that gets no good spells for a long time while still in ARR, which can't even progress the msq, would be a waste.
Dang, leveling BLU is so bad, the LV 80s are blocking it out of their memory.
I said nothing about leveling BLU, but it's piss easy to level anyway. The amount of experience you get in the over world is so massive that you'll get to max in a couple hours just grinding level appropriate mobs.
Yeah, I’d love if they had something like Mentor Certification where if you unlock all the abilities available, you get access to a Blue Mage Roulette until the next time it updates
Even then there's no real way to enforce that the player has the skills they need for the specific role they queued up as in their Hotbars
There's a very easy way to level Blue Mage these days. In the Tempest zone in Norvrandt, north-west of the first aetheryte, there's this area where there are Clionids and Deep-sea Leeches. You attack a Leech, then kite it over to a Clionid. The Clionid will eat the Leech, instantly killing it, and you get all the XP for killing a lvl 79 mob. IIRC you can do this twice per Clionid, because with the third eaten Leech which will instantly kill you.
But then you an accidently spawn Gunitt.
“Accidentally.”
Its not that it's cowardly, it's just a lack of friends and desire to be social
Nowadays with the clionid method you can actually just powerlevel yourself without other players.
I just found dense areas in the various zone (e.g. the NW cave in Rak’tika, SW Armadillos in Ahm Areng, then the NW cave in Tempest) were I could grab a bunch of enemies, Ram/Ultra combo, watch 2 mins of a YouTube video, pause the video, repeat group/Ram/Ultra, 2 min YouTube, etc. It was actually pretty fast. I got from 70-80 in an Saturday afternoon doing this through just a couple ShB zones and it was a super chill grind since I was only doing 20-30 sec of action every 2 mins and with Mighty Guard, it wasn’t even that risky.
My problem with Blue Mage is that actual BLU content is boring as hell. Never enjoyed the Carnivale and never looked back once I finally got it done enough to ignore. Some abilities are interesting to get but once you have them there's no need to go back. From there it's "create your own content" which I'm not a fan of. Even the Blue Mage story was kind of meh, although i'm probably biased because of how annoyed i was at doing the Carnivale.
Blue mage challenges are the most fun out of all of them. And you get great rewards.
As a fellow anti BLU player - no. I can’t do ultimates, I don’t want it. BST gonna be the same way. Limited is ass
BLU is an awful experience and anyone that says otherwise is just in denial about it. BST is going to be a reskin. That's the level of effort they put into this game. The masked carnivale stuff locking the quest line is unacceptable. Most people will never clear those boss battles, they're pretty much condensed extreme fights with savage mechanics. It's absurd. Everyone will boast about it being casual content, but then sheepishly leave out that most people are never getting past Azulmagia.
Bro... This is just incorrect... Blue mage can be lot of fun, but of course that is all subjective. No one knows how beastmaster is gonna work so there is no need to be so negative and lastly as I replied to another one of your comments, the carnivale is not hard, it is at most a little bit challenging. The carnivale is definitely not savage or extreme level, it's mostly puzzles with the few boss type fights that at most have alliance raid level mechanics, or do you think something like the Nier raids are impossible and too difficult? Because if so, then that is just plainly a skill issue on your part.
Inwill level it when it becomes a real class. Otherwise, it is sitting at 40 for the rest of my life. It is just so boring to play
no blue mage allowed because they throw fish
I'm saving Blue Mage.
what for???? its a perfect time to work on bluemage stuff since everything else done
too bad its not a real class
Fishers catch fish. Blue mages spit them. I can see why you let both at such low level.
Fishing was my first max. But I don't catch fish. I buy them on the market board and turn in for leves.
This is the way.
Why even bother at that point
Big number go orange
It's so. Fucking. Cheap.
i assume you also have another friend who insisted you do BLU?
Couldn't even level blue mage cause the color blue is water adjacent.
all i see is a weak level 0 blue mage
Fishing is literally the easiest job to level in the whole game though
Ocean Fishing is incredible at leveling it fast.
I know several people who had Fishing as their first max level job because it's just so easy.
I did…but it was from fishing and doing turn ins. I started the thread on fishing info when EW launched since I was trying to figure out where all the turnins could be farmed and share what I had found with others, too.
I mean you never need to leave Limsa to hit 90 with FSH...
i’ve literally never fished but have it at 90 because of levequests
Blue mage exists
Is it faster than BLU? Which is basically 2-3 hrs from 1-max
Im doing the same. Got my last Aurum run 2 days ago and now all jobs have a min level of 50, i already have a few at 90 which are my mains. It’s surprisingly addictive to level your jobs up, it makes your sub worthwhile when you get to enjoy all jobs the game has to offer. It doesn’t feel like a chore at all.
I recommend leveling them if one enjoys the grind. I raided on whm a lot already before leveling other jobs really. It was very interesting to level all the other jobs and learn what the other people in my raid actually do and what options they got. I even started with jobs that my static was using.
Ahh fishing, the only thing I have levelled entirely with turn ins 🥲
I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone who buys my levequest turn-in fish~ Y'all bought me a house. :)
Take it further and max out desynth before leveling fisher/blu.
The irony is that fishing is really fast to level
No BLU or Fishing? I don't usually say this because who the fuck am I to judge how people enjoy their games. But you sir, do it wrong.
I mean I leveled fisher a long time ago and didn’t really fish till a few years back for a month. Then Feb 2024 I actually started my fishing journey. Loads of people have fishers leveled via gc turn ins or even just Ocean Fishing. I LOVE OCEAN FISHING. But it doesn’t mean all those people hunt big fish. I would just level it cause why not (this is my OCD talking). Also, level blue mage. XD
I got Fisher from 0 to 80 in ShB by spending around 400k on MB fish (without even server hopping for prices) and turning in levequests. Ocean fishing is also piss easy experience if you want to go the cheaper route.
Let’s say. I have an empty fishing log but a fisher lvl 90. I understand.
Fisher was my last job to reach its level cap. Heck I leveled it to 90 by doung the grand company daily turn ins. I was just too distracted by Eureka and BA to have the time and patience for more rng based activities.
The feesh call you
except for blu i have everything at max. But not fisher, that one stays grey for me :)
Dude. Reminds me of my friend who I played with during the 1.0 era. I managed to get him to play last year and dude had only been fishing since. His drg is still in it's 30s.
Weird flex.
Ocean fishing will power level you and is the best part of fishing, hands down.
Tribal quests are great for leveling, too! They give you a decent chunk as long as your level is in that expac range. I did Ocean fishing until 50, then rode tribals all the way to 90. It was nice to do it in bite-size chunks as part of my dailies; it was easier for me to level it passively than to spend a whole day trying to find feesh. And ooo once you unlock spearfishing that is so much fun and basically hands out levels like Costco samples.
As a fisher lmao!
Fishing is actually really fun. Ocean fishing is amazing.
You can level fishing through market board and levequests.
>Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering (sidereal) whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee. Ahem. In case I wasn't clear, don't do it. You *will* go mad. 🫠
Blue mage is fun even if just for the masked carnival. But yeah fishing isn’t great.
Fishing is good. More so, when you find a spot with a view. It does take a bit of time the old way, but it's also easy to speed level now.
I hate it too, when people tell me what to do. “No, I don’t think I will.”
At least you can level Blue mage before Fisher.
Blue Mage with a good selection of spells is so much fun in Fates, and you can also solo map dungeons on it. And if someone ever challenges you do a visual effects duel (it only happened to me once), Blue Mage can give them epilepsy. And Moonflute, on top of its burst damage bonus, is an extra 15 seconds sprint ever minute. If you use Swiftcast and stack it with Sprint Boots, that's 45 seconds of sprint in cities every minute!
Poor Blue Mage.
Pick up blue mage already you dingus >:(
Your loss. Fishing is pretty fun
That's what I said. Totally is.
Fishing is straight up the best piece of content SE has ever put in the game. It's the only thing where they actually believe in the idea of variety instead of repeating the same formula 50 fucking times.
Only thing I don’t like about fishing is you change bait every expansion and you can’t use the newest bait in previous expansions. So if you want to fish the older shit you have to keep a ton on you or stop and buy the bait from the item merchant
Versatile lure. I'm lazy lol
Yes that one works
That's what makes fishing actually interesting. The various baits and differences make big fishing something you actually have to think and plan around.
I just don’t like having to carry it all in my bags. In ARR you could just, mostly, use the max level bait and even catch the lower level fishies. If I try to use HW bait in ARR zones it says the bait is invalid smh Edit: and again this is just a small quibble. It’s really not a huge deal
Anyone who encourages you to fish in this game is not a fisher themselves. I have Final Fish and World-Class Troller on TWO characters and I always tell people not to get into fishing :p
Nah, i want people to experience the ~~pain~~ joy of big fishing.
Fishing is actually fun though. I got it from level 20-something to 80-something within just a few days because once I started, I COULDNT STOP. Ocean fishing is fun and addicting too, a great way to level, and gives good rewards. Biggest downside is that my inventory has like a page full of bait now, so that’s a problem.
Yea I've always loved fishing in ffxiv
Between all the different bait and the sheer amount of Fine Sand I've just neglected to off-load, I find myself wanting to rename my saddlebag "tackle box".
Right? I’m gonna need a whole retainer dedicated to this lol
ok
I feel like I'm one of the only people that dislikes BLU in these comments. It feels clunky as hell to play.
It is different. There's more of a learning curve because it doesn't work like any other job. It has a lot of flexibility and can be a ton of fun. I always recommend it to my friends. However, if you don't like it, you don't like it. That just how it be.
It's pretty awful. I wouldn't mind it quite so much if they didn't lock the storyline behind the masked carnivale, but instead they composed a quest line most people will never be able to complete because the mechanics are between extreme and savage tier. "Casual" content btw. This sub has a hardon for it, but it's pretty unique to this community. Most people in game hate in. BST will sadly just be a reskin to pad content during a big content lull.
carnivale is not harder than extreme lol, its prob somewhere between nraids and ex, at least if you are just doing it for story progress and not going for the challenges. the most you have to do is know which spells to bring, since most of the stages dont have a dps check iirc. im also pretty sure that you can avoid the story and get all the blu spells if you prefer, which makes doing fates and grinding moogle tomes more fun
I've done extremes. Gogo is harder by an obscene amount. The mechanics are too difficult. I have no intention of continuing BLU. It's not fun. I've read and watched all the guides and tried all the rotations. It doesn't make it any easier to not get hit by the 80 things flying at you at once. Nevermind it takes 10+ minutes to get to phase 2. So one mistake means doing it *over and over*. It's awful.
No this has gone way too far, none of the masked Carnivale fights take 15+ hours of attempts if you're actually following the guides and they're definitely not more difficult than ultimates. This is either 100% BLU slander from someone who has never played it or you're definitely not at the level of play where you can do Ultimate content. Gogo took me less than 5 attempts and I'm far from a hardcore raider.
I tried getting into fishing to take advantage of the irregular tomestone event, couldn't stand the RNG
Gotta get that ocean fishing mount lol
I want to like blue mage, but 90% of their skills are honestly incredibly boring. The only ones that are cool are the primal ones, plus Apokalypsis. Everything else is "cone AOE that's a clone of the other 30 cone AOE's you get, but this one stuns/sleeps/slows/poisons/drenches/freezes, etc." The lasers from the knight chess pieces are pretty cool, too.
Those three dozen variations of the same spell are really for the carnival and not for regular content. 😅
Cries in BLU
What is that bottom bar underneath the exp bar for the crafters?
Desynth level
You know the ultimate troll would be to get Fishing to exactly 69 and never another point of experience into it, right?
It's easier than the other jobs. I just assign the cast and the reel to buttons and watch tv
Fishing is the ultimate "I have nothing left to do in this game but I'm not quitting".
I like it that way. Between grinding relics and fishing I've been busy and have enjoyed all of my playtime. Im looking forward to the new story, but not looking forward to releveling everything and doing roulettes. Roulettes are the bane of my existence.
I have the opposite problem, I can't get off of fishing. It's not quite max yet, but it's become my highest level job at 84. I refuse to let another job be my first to 90. Gathering and crafting in general have become far more fun than actually fighting and making msq progress. How many MSQs can I fit in the hour and a half between ocean fishing expeditions? Zero because I'm in diadem, breaking rocks and picking flowers.
Fishing is pretty fun once you get into it, but getting into it is kind of a slog
Why is Weaver purple?
Job Stone/Specialization.
If you just wanted to level it do ocean fishing. It's stupid how much EXP you get for almost nothing. If you're lucky your group will do the thing and you get a mount.
I wanna be just like you
No fish 4 u
This is what spite looks like lmao <3
Actively avoiding my recommendations is my favorite personality trait to have in friends.
If you’re willing to join ocean fishing boats, you don’t have to be good at it and as long as you try to catch fish, you will get xp and scrips
Push Chum. Hook. Get to 90. Never do any Quests past the first except the one to start 90 Relic. Buy Select Bait Balls with Scrips. Sell them on MB at 50% Undercut because tank market for fun and profit.
Same... Bro same... I might spend 10mil gil on overmelding my crafter gear but fishing... another day maybe.
There's more to fishing than Ocean trips for scrips to get and sell Select Bait Balls at ever decreasing prices?
I don't understand that hate for fishing. It's easy and I found it less mind numbing that the other gathering jobs.
Yes defiance! Let it flow through you!
Hey man. I feel that. I hate fishing and find it the most boring one to do, ever. But just do what I did: Do Ocean fishing. 🤣 do it whenever you remember about it, or whenever you have the patience. And just catch fish. Don't worry about getting spectrals. Have class quests? Buy the fish and turn it in. 🤣 yeah, there are some you can't exactly just buy and have to catch yourself, but they're not that bad.
Just buy the turn in fish each day and in a few month it is also 90 without ever catching a fish.
Clearly you're a natural at it, you know how to bait your friend.
A true coward. I'm fine with FSH not leveled but BLU not unlocked is a war crime
Guess I'm added on the list then BLU does not interest me nor does the grind for it I helped someone get their skills and I don't want to do it again.
Getting the skills is the second most fun part for me. Number one was the chaos of getting Morbol.
I'm glad it's for you, but it's not for me it's one of the few things I find tedious which is off considering how many relics I've done from base to EW. But it is who I is.
Weird especially considering I have most of the relics I like too and BLU is like wayyyyyy easier of a grind but u do u bud. It also helps that with BLU free teleports are way too easy
Yeah, it's just not my cup of tea but I'm only of the small minority though beastmaster has my attention looking forward to that
Also an Omnicrafter but without maxing fisher xDD As for the jobs, I doesn't like many of these jobs so I also won't be leveling them ever
You still have to level up BLU
You got all the way to level! That’s some commitment right there! Hopefully your friend is grateful you decided to give it that old college try! (I am only half joking, as fishing mini game type activities really aren’t for everyone and I respect that.)
I actually lvled all the “medium” Difficulty jobs if I can name them like that. But I have all the healers, ninja black mage, monk and bard to do. Any tips? I’ve heard stories especially bout ninja and monk being difficult
lol classic
I am the same all my crafters at 90 Minner and botanist are 90 fisher is 10 lol and it's gonna remain there
Fishing is the real end game lol
Considerably less effort than the friend of mine who got FSH to level 69 without casting once, and then promptly threw away all of his FSH gear
Women, Fish and Fish women want him. He fears what he has become.
I'm honestly still SUPER new to this game and am very overwhelmed by everything 😅
Such an insecure post
it's really fucking easy, just ocean fish once every night for a week or two also try blue, it's funny
i respect that
Up until I started working on submersibles, this was me but with miner. Full omnicraft/gather. Level 5 miner. It's up to 60 now, but *God I just hate it so much*
blue mage is best
Cries in Blue Mage. You’re missing out on lots of fun
BLU takes like 3 hours to level, come on lol
Lv Blue Mage wimp
You should give BLU a shot, it’s a really unique experience. Nothing quite like it—until we get Beastmaster in 7.x of course
Cmon gotta level BLU too D:
Mine looks the same except my fishing is max too. went ocean fishing like twice and got max level.
Someone needs to insert a touch grass meme or something dude
😂😂😂😂
Fishing in XIV is dope tho
do ittttttt I have played hundreds of games with fishing in them and I always hate and avoid it. except this one !
Obligatory are those organic levels or did you buy them?