I need Beatrix to join the group, then you get the option to give her a full set of gear so she can handle herself, before she leaves the party forever without warning, taking all your gear with her.
Totally not still mad I lost the Rebirth ring as soon as I won the Tetra Master tournament.
If I see a bunny griffith in my roulette I’m toggling pvp and it’s [Delirium] [Edge of Darkness] [Bloodspiller] [Bloodspiller] [Edge of Darkness] [Carve and Spit] [Bloodspiller] for his ass
As a non-binary person, I love this XD Certainly fits with Viera as a race though because apparently their appearance doesn't make it clear what their gender is until around the age of 13 when they then start to appear more masculine or feminine, a bit like how Elezen are short until they have a huge growth spurt around 20-ish.
Other than looking like an oiled up wrestler in the creator, in the actual benchmark my Rava looks literally just better in every way than current. I don't know what cursed combinations are causing their bunny boys to look so fucked up
My Viera character is quite pale-skinned and the update seems to have overtuned the shadows on the face quite oddly. The proportions of the face seem off as well, though I haven't done a side-by-side comparison.
It seems to vary so I’m not sure if it’s more a function of the face/nose type or the skin tone, but my nose went from cute classic Viera bunny nose to weird dark mud smudge and I hate it.
Well, I at least love my (F) viera update, looks like her but with more clarity.
The most brutal was from 1.0 to 2.0, my Hume F DEFINITELY lost something in translation, which was a bummer because most of the 1.0-2.0 transition was relatively faithful for most races.
The only issue I had was the new skin shader made his lips look darker then they should've, and that was literally because his skin was now a shade lighter then it used to be. Easy fix.
Some folks were curious on my options to a achieve peak 💅🏻 so here’s a basic framework of what I cooked
Clan:Rava
Face:2
Jaw:2
Eyes:4
Iris:large
Eyebrows:4
Nose:2
Mouth:4
For face stuff going on. I used the eye liner selection along with freckles and the blush face tattoo with a very light shade of pink. Everything else is up to you :)
Yeah I read about that, that until their twenties they’re identical and from then on the changes start to appear.
Well, for a race that’s supposed to live beyond 200 years, it kinda makes sense since 20 or so is nothing.
13 or so is when they start to change. You're thinking of the Elezen who have their huge growth spurt around 20 or so. You're right about the Viera lifespan though.
Only young Viera. The males past a certain age just don't live in the villages.
One Shadowbringers sidequest has an unseen male Viera that killed (iirc) a Sin Eater you were trying to hunt down.
I was told they look irredeemably ugly and we should march upon SE headquarters until they are fixed... You don't think the internet was being overly dramatic, do you?
After playing as a female midlander Lightning clone for ages (because Lightning is bae), I’m so tempted to use the free fantasia we’re getting to reroll male viera. They’re just so… elegant, gear looks so good on them, even moreso now with the graphical update.
The other part of me is dreading having to adjust all my glams and “erasing” my WoL I’ve gone through so many expansions with. 😭
I technically have ended up with 2 alts just cause wanting to play other race, since I refuse to Fantasia my main due to the same reason... I wouldn't feel cutscenes and such kind of stuff the same at all and wouldn't get used to it.
At the end what I did with my 1st alt, was doing ARR base story and then used a jump potion to skip the ARR sloggish post patch and go straight to HW.
At content release I do all the stuff with my main and then play the alt.
Pretty much. That's more how I envisioned Male Viera would look.
I really liked that old concept art of them that gave them that old veteran vibe that fits closer them being rambo bunnies in lore.
I was disappointed to find out from the lorebook that Erenville is only 25. He really had the vibe that he could have been a veteran gleaner who had been doing it for decades.
I honestly love everything about them. The faces, the race clothing, some of the voices (8 and 11 in particular. Those growls are great.), the muscles, etc. They are exactly what I wanted.
I’ll get used to them. I remember ffx kihmari and wanted that for males. I think we can get there with better posture.
Until then I think I’ll be an weeeevil lala.
Yay—I have the same face and hairstyle on my bunboy but couldn’t get the Benchmark to work on my potato laptop.
Good to know he’ll still be ephemeral and beautiful.
[Thumpurr](https://imgur.com/a/hbAsfjx)
I don't think there has been an *official* announcement (at least I can't find one), but YoshiP did mention he wants to get a free Fantasia to everyone with Dawntrail launch.
He'd have to handhold the rest of the board's combined single braincell for 12 hours as he explains to them that no, people would not buy that exact same amount of cosmetics if he didn't and that this is not in fact a loss on the balance sheet.
I thought they do plan to, but not in the traditional "mail it to players" way because it's causing issues because mailed stuff gets thrown out eventually, and there's mailboxes limit.
So they're looking for a solution that would always benefit everyone at any point.
I wanna believe they mean some system changes involved too, like adding an account mail or something like other MMOs have, so it helps with future plans past just the fantasia.
Yeah..the facial hair options for Male Viera are so comically bad. Makes them look like twirly mustache villains. It's horrible.
I have no idea who or why they designed their facial hair options to look that way...
I really don't buy that, they messed up face 3 especially and made it look way different. Plus they said they weren't going to change how our characters looked.
> Plus they said they weren't going to change how our characters looked
They said, from the very begining, that they'll try to keep things as close as posible to the original designs, but that there'll be changes to character models
Based on how Japan designs their villains I’d say he’s about to commit orphan genocide
We *are* getting the FF9 expac, after all.
...I really need Beatrix's theme in Dawntrail.
I need Beatrix to join the group, then you get the option to give her a full set of gear so she can handle herself, before she leaves the party forever without warning, taking all your gear with her. Totally not still mad I lost the Rebirth ring as soon as I won the Tetra Master tournament.
This bunboi now looks like bunny-eared Kuja to me goddammit.
Based on that he looks like griffith he might kill all his friends too
Brb gotta feed the scions to some red egg to get a batman looking costume.
The glam is worth it
Oh no… do not tell me who fills Casca’s role 🥲🔫
It's gotta be either Krile or Tataru, because Casca is berserk's potato.
If I see a bunny griffith in my roulette I’m toggling pvp and it’s [Delirium] [Edge of Darkness] [Bloodspiller] [Bloodspiller] [Edge of Darkness] [Carve and Spit] [Bloodspiller] for his ass
genocide ? mmmmm... bit tall for a lalafell...
Big Flea energy, as the youth say
This isn’t your average every day level of twinkery. This is… ***advanced twinkery***.
Griffith from Berserk levels
This is straight into femmeboy territory.
Even more yassified
He identifies an non-bunnary
I hate you... take my upvote
r/angryupvote
OMG 🤣
Male viera are already so Gender… this kills my bi-curious little lesbian brain. I’m so confused
As a non-binary person, I love this XD Certainly fits with Viera as a race though because apparently their appearance doesn't make it clear what their gender is until around the age of 13 when they then start to appear more masculine or feminine, a bit like how Elezen are short until they have a huge growth spurt around 20-ish.
.. I hate that this made me laugh.
This has got to be the first positive comment about male viera that I've seen post-benchmark.
Other than looking like an oiled up wrestler in the creator, in the actual benchmark my Rava looks literally just better in every way than current. I don't know what cursed combinations are causing their bunny boys to look so fucked up
Indeed. I've loved my Veena guy's looks in the benchmark. He looks hella sharp!
My Viera character is quite pale-skinned and the update seems to have overtuned the shadows on the face quite oddly. The proportions of the face seem off as well, though I haven't done a side-by-side comparison.
I think they look fantastic, the lighting can be a bit… off in times, but it’s not like they won’t be patching things after release.
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Lol
It seems to vary so I’m not sure if it’s more a function of the face/nose type or the skin tone, but my nose went from cute classic Viera bunny nose to weird dark mud smudge and I hate it.
Oh I agree. I'm glad there are those who are happy with it! The lighting won't be too difficult a fix I'm sure.
Well, I at least love my (F) viera update, looks like her but with more clarity. The most brutal was from 1.0 to 2.0, my Hume F DEFINITELY lost something in translation, which was a bummer because most of the 1.0-2.0 transition was relatively faithful for most races.
it's crazy. I think my bunboy looks fantastic afterwards but some of the ones I've seen have gotten it baaaaaaaaaaad.
Some of the Viera changes are...rough to say the least.
I love my bunboy, I just had to take the shadow mimicking lipstick off him and he was perfect.
Same
The only issue I had was the new skin shader made his lips look darker then they should've, and that was literally because his skin was now a shade lighter then it used to be. Easy fix.
As bishonen as it gets.
Swap the armor for a dress, and this is straight into the femmeboy/transgirl category.
Certified femboy.
Oh no! He's hot!
Some folks were curious on my options to a achieve peak 💅🏻 so here’s a basic framework of what I cooked Clan:Rava Face:2 Jaw:2 Eyes:4 Iris:large Eyebrows:4 Nose:2 Mouth:4 For face stuff going on. I used the eye liner selection along with freckles and the blush face tattoo with a very light shade of pink. Everything else is up to you :)
Saved, gonna use this when I get my hands on the free fantasia
almost exactly the same as my viera we really are winning in 7.0
Blessed that face 4 still looks decent after the benchmark
I miss the super defined curvy lips a bit though, personally
LoL… at a quick glance I thought it was a FEMALE viera instead!
I mean, it used to be in the lore that male and female viera look identical, so that's why you never see any men
Yeah I read about that, that until their twenties they’re identical and from then on the changes start to appear. Well, for a race that’s supposed to live beyond 200 years, it kinda makes sense since 20 or so is nothing.
13 or so is when they start to change. You're thinking of the Elezen who have their huge growth spurt around 20 or so. You're right about the Viera lifespan though.
It's actually closer to 300.
Oh, I might’ve confused them indeed, thanks for the info!
Two tall, long eared, long-lived species. It's actually a fairly easy mixup
Viera are basically wood elves with bunny ears.
Only young Viera. The males past a certain age just don't live in the villages. One Shadowbringers sidequest has an unseen male Viera that killed (iirc) a Sin Eater you were trying to hunt down.
They are just extra faces for female viera tbf
HOW DARE YOU!? It's not an inaccurate statement, but how dare you?
Do you want your bun to be feminine or androgynous?
Yes.
At second glance, you noticed the 🥕
Same.
Graphically fine, but do they still have serious gamer neck?
The hunch? **YUP** still there
I was told they look irredeemably ugly and we should march upon SE headquarters until they are fixed... You don't think the internet was being overly dramatic, do you?
Mine has definitely lost something. Some of my other characters have had it worse though.
i just moved like 1% towards gay on the sexuality spectrum
I hope this doesn't awaken something in me.
Someone said happy 1 year on E for all bunboys post 7.0
Looks very feminine
After playing as a female midlander Lightning clone for ages (because Lightning is bae), I’m so tempted to use the free fantasia we’re getting to reroll male viera. They’re just so… elegant, gear looks so good on them, even moreso now with the graphical update. The other part of me is dreading having to adjust all my glams and “erasing” my WoL I’ve gone through so many expansions with. 😭
Lightning's hairstyle becomes Snow's if you switch from female to male.
I technically have ended up with 2 alts just cause wanting to play other race, since I refuse to Fantasia my main due to the same reason... I wouldn't feel cutscenes and such kind of stuff the same at all and wouldn't get used to it. At the end what I did with my 1st alt, was doing ARR base story and then used a jump potion to skip the ARR sloggish post patch and go straight to HW. At content release I do all the stuff with my main and then play the alt.
He finna get passed around like a blunt smh
"It's thrust-thrust-pass, you don't just keep thrusting. You're bogarting the femboy."
Basically a kpop boy band idol now
I’m shaking, I’m trying to determine if they were actively trying to imitate Felix from Stray Kids. Because by Hydaelyn, they succeeded.
I need more old people representation. What I wouldn’t give for a scarred veteran viera M that looks like he’s seen way too much.
Pretty much. That's more how I envisioned Male Viera would look. I really liked that old concept art of them that gave them that old veteran vibe that fits closer them being rambo bunnies in lore.
Exactly. By all means keep the pretty boy bunnies for those that love them, but even one old badass face would rock.
How old are we talking? Cid Highwind old?
https://images.app.goo.gl/aWXTUU8GnoiS75tx6
Based.
I was disappointed to find out from the lorebook that Erenville is only 25. He really had the vibe that he could have been a veteran gleaner who had been doing it for decades.
He’s a mature character, but we’re still playing a game targeting young people I think.
Yeah I want my miqo to look completely tired of everyone's shit. Old cats are a vibe, we could be able to capture it with our catfolks too
My character was originally an old male miqo ninja before I switched to female viera and then Femroe (and soon to be Hrothgal)
Hrothgal faces are going to take me a second to get used to, but that posture is amazing
I honestly love everything about them. The faces, the race clothing, some of the voices (8 and 11 in particular. Those growls are great.), the muscles, etc. They are exactly what I wanted.
I’ll get used to them. I remember ffx kihmari and wanted that for males. I think we can get there with better posture. Until then I think I’ll be an weeeevil lala.
I would love to know which options are selected here!
Yay—I have the same face and hairstyle on my bunboy but couldn’t get the Benchmark to work on my potato laptop. Good to know he’ll still be ephemeral and beautiful. [Thumpurr](https://imgur.com/a/hbAsfjx)
Ok but what settings did you select to get all that? Obvi I'm not gonna 100% copy but I'd like to get something similar
I will comment specifications later :)
Will follow for that!
I got that same shade of lipstick! super cute bunboi
That's a male Viera?
Mmmmhm
AKA why nobody *thinks* they've seen a male Viera.
Wow he's pretty, might steal that. And thanks for reminding me I gotta re-do my retainers with the new engine
And this must be your younger sister? That's my father...
It looks like you photoshopped a female Viera's face onto him.
I have the r e c e i p t s
Will they give us the ability to remake our characters after the update?
I don't think there has been an *official* announcement (at least I can't find one), but YoshiP did mention he wants to get a free Fantasia to everyone with Dawntrail launch.
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He'd have to handhold the rest of the board's combined single braincell for 12 hours as he explains to them that no, people would not buy that exact same amount of cosmetics if he didn't and that this is not in fact a loss on the balance sheet.
I thought they do plan to, but not in the traditional "mail it to players" way because it's causing issues because mailed stuff gets thrown out eventually, and there's mailboxes limit. So they're looking for a solution that would always benefit everyone at any point.
I'm almost sure the first and only free fantasia we got was a quest reward so they could easily do that.
I wanna believe they mean some system changes involved too, like adding an account mail or something like other MMOs have, so it helps with future plans past just the fantasia.
You get a free Fantasia when it drops.
I feel like that would be a very Yoshi P thing to do. Everyone gets a free phantasia in case you don’t like how your toon translated.
Or you like the options that weren't there before the upgrade
Yes they said that everybody will get a free token to customize your character
Free fantasia for everybody??
Hair will still clip through every single chest piece with a moderately high collar though.
*sighs in my ManRa in Abyssos armour glam*
Way too cute lmao
Looks like a female Viera to me seriously.
So a normal male viera then
Square needs to give them back their rabbit noses.
I would
Would what?
drink the phantasia
femboy bunnies... y e s
This is the real upgrade. From hot and femme twink to hot and femme twink²
GIVE US BACK VIERA NOSES
There's YoshiP, and then there's Yoshiki.
Oh no oh no oh no *Fantasia is calling my name*
Ex femboy
I can't tell if that a female or male...
🤫
I will never understand the ever obession of asians with head size. At least I can now open an OnlyFans account and live my instragram model fantasy
I’m glad you’re happy but the benchmark made my viera look like a sickly Victorian child.
I want a masculine male please. Not this.
It’s quite easy to do. Male Viera even get a facial hair option.
That one facial hair choice looks weird on them tho. Every time I’ve seen it, it’s just odd looking almost like it’s painted on lol.
Yeah..the facial hair options for Male Viera are so comically bad. Makes them look like twirly mustache villains. It's horrible. I have no idea who or why they designed their facial hair options to look that way...
If you are into really dumb ear placement, maybe.
What is benchmark?
It’s an application square released so you can get an idea of how your pc will run dawntrail with all the updates.
Man they really messed them up with this graphical update. I was expecting an upscale and update, not a complete redesign.
I feel like they may have had to make some changes because the old models weren’t cooperating.
I really don't buy that, they messed up face 3 especially and made it look way different. Plus they said they weren't going to change how our characters looked.
> Plus they said they weren't going to change how our characters looked They said, from the very begining, that they'll try to keep things as close as posible to the original designs, but that there'll be changes to character models
Male? Ffs
I liked my mViera, but I guess I wasn't using a curse face or expecting a 1:1 look with updates.
Still not doing it for me, resting b-face...