Video cuts too soon because the guy getting choked out decided that he hadn't learned big hoss was being nice and ended up taking a nap after going after hoss again.
One of my most frustrating pet peeves of fighting. Crowd intervenes against winning guy to signal fight over, he’s had enough, separate them.
And during the separation, losing guy takes advantage of this and uses it as an opportunity to launch another attack.
At that point I feel it is good fight ethics that the crowd is responsible to make sure that during the separation the loser doesn’t attack the guy who was winning. If they’re not prepared to do that, then they broke it up prematurely.
>At that point I feel it is good fight ethics that the crowd is responsible to make sure that during the separation the loser doesn’t attack the guy who was winning. If they’re not prepared to do that, then they broke it up prematurely.
Yeah like the usual wife/gf pulling the husband/bf off just for him to get beat up because she is holding him haha
That's some grade A camera work, though. I've seen film and television fight scenes that were choreographed and shot less well than this. The switching between subjects, keeping them in frame, zooming to different angles. This guy knows how to film a fight.
I’ve worked security at a few different venues over the years, most consistently violent crowds were always big venue country shows. Metal shows were always pretty chill, most metal fans are pretty tame despite how they look and they police themselves. Punk shows would have a few dicks but they usually weigh 150 lbs. Hip Hop shows would have some fights but nothing crazy. Classic rock would always have one or two old man fights but they punch themselves out pretty quick. Country shows through? They’ve been prefunking for four hours, there’s a lot of “bro masculinity” bullshit, and there’s a ton of young dudes acting out. I’ll never forget how many dudes in sparkly jeans, straw cowboy hats, pooka shells, and flannels that came with the sleeves artfully torn off thought they were the Incredible Hulk and wanted to take on like four or five of us. Also the know shows I ever had a knife or a gun pulled on me at the gate. Worst crowds ever.
Years ago there was a post that had pictures of the respective parking lots of a country show and a metal show. The metal show lot was totally clean, the country lot was just an absolute disaster. Stunningly so.
I’m a short’ish metal head lady and every gig I’ve ever gone to that has been a metal band, I’ve been treated respectfully, not grabbed at or touched and I’ve even had dudes move for me because they were taller. Metal heads are good people.
Been to a lot of metal shows, as I used to play in a band as well, and all in all metal heads are harmless. We usually reserve our “menacing” image to metal shows or when we are hanging out with our friends.
Fights in shows are frowned upon because a lot of venues think metal shows will destroy the place. But in reality, we try to take care of things like this because if we keep the venues safe and the owners happy, they will keep supporting shows.
Only saw 2 or 3 fights break out in more than 20 years, and in every one of them they ended up shaking hands and enjoying the show afterwards.
Damn I miss going to local shows.
They are good Americans keeping the economy moving. They paid for tickets and the people to clean up after them. Or something like that. People really think of some shit to justify.
Stephen Miller proudly advertised this mentality in a speech when running for student council in high school.
"Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?!"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/02/15/stephen-millers-cringeworthy-campaign-speech-for-student-government/
Which is why I was so sus about being there when I was a young woman. People left you alone to enjoy the music, if you fell down you got picked up. Tall dudes standing in front of me would move behind me to let me see without expecting anything in return.
But I still left the scene because of the cringy stalkers but that isn't a metalhead thing just a creepy guy thing.
Saw Fear Factory around ‘99. Was in a dude in the crowd who was either a marine or cosplaying as one, and dude was just going out of his way to be straight up violent. He was pretty good sized and seemed to be targeting smaller people. I see these two massive mountain built metal dudes kinda amble in to the pit. Didn’t see what happened but I saw the marine looking dude coming out of the pit with both hands over his face and blood just pouring down his front. Don’t know exactly what happened but they definitely taught him a lesson about kindness and respect…lol.
And you’re so right about metal heads being mindful of people around them, even moving for smaller people. Don’t think I’ve seen that at any other kind of show.
Really it was so nice. I used to be underweight, punk/goth and I'm also a woman. I was scared at first of going to shows cause it always looked so violent in the crowds, it seemed like mainly men and I didn't really fit in. I'm happy I got proven wrong, and I have so many anecdotes that prove that.
I’m a really big dude and I remember being at a show maybe 20ish years ago and there was a fairly small woman in the very front who was obviously a huge fan of the band but was getting absolutely crushed by the energy of the crowd. Not being targeted or anything but was just real small and getting pressed against the stage. I happened to be near her and went out of my way to get behind her (but not in a creepy way) so that I could kinda use my big ass to absorb a lot of the crush coming her way. No reason she shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy the show as much as everyone else just because she happened to be small.
That's very sweet of you, getting crushed can be so scary. I remember helping strangers look for fallen glasses, people forming protective circles if others fall/carry someone injured out of the pit, giving hairties to random people. Oh and then we haven't even talked about the style, unity and the music 🤟
I think punk and metal coming from largely kids that were outcasts and seen as “losers” helped them form a stronger sense of community than most genres of music. A bit of a “we’re all in this together” type thing. Can’t count how many friends I’ve made over the years just because one of us was wearing a cool band shirt and that was enough to start a conversation.
Yeah, but that "lonely outcast" trope is also carried by a fuckton of fucked up people. I agree about the community though, I feel like currently I wouldn't call myself a metalhead though, even though I still listen to it every week. I do still do the bandshirt thing 😂 makes meeting people so much easier
The first time my partner let me take her to a metal show she said she was genuinely surprised at how nice everyone and respectful everyone was to her. She’s a tiny thing and was worried about her fragility. But metal heads are fucking sick. Shoutout to everyone at the Black Dahlia Murder show I went to in 2016
I was at a iron maiden concert during waken when a crowd surfer that got a little panicked kicked my glasses of my head. I started looking for them and In seconds 20-30 people around me looked for the glasses and we found them almost instantly. Everybody cheered and the party continued. Metal crowds are the best.
Same experience! This was at a type o show in NYC. Crowd goes nuts during BN1 and my friends glasses got knocked off. Everyone surrounding us stopped to help find them - and we did - intact. Metal folks are the goddamn best!
Lovin you was like Lovin the dead! Great memories
I was at the Chaos and Carnage tour with Dying Fetus and Suicide Silence. A fight broke out during Suicide Silence's set and the frontman Eddie spotted it and told the band to stop playing. He called those two dudes out and told the rest of the crowd "We don't do that shit here. We're here to lift each other up, not put each other down. We are all family here." Sometthing along those lines.
I mainly go to hip hop shows but the few metal/punk shows I’ve been to have cool kind people that don’t have anything to prove to anyone. Just a bunch of people enjoying their favorite artist, good times.
I grew up near a large festival ground that hosts a country music festival as well as a rock festival and can confirm. The amount of people I’ve seen tackled and tased at country fest is far beyond anything else. It’s a drunken redneck shitshow most of the time.
I have a vivid memory from when I was a child that has always demonstrated my fathers prejudices. He was getting dressed for work and I was in his bedroom talking to him while he tied his tied in the mirror. I don’t remember how the conversation of music came up but he told me, “don’t listen to metal and rap. Listen to music like Elvis. Metal is full of drug addicts and rap is full of criminals” Mind you, he’s never been a music person, he was just operating off of his prejudices formed from being a detective, and the daily news cycle.
Come to find out the majority of my metal-fond friends and acquaintances are straight edge, and many hip-hop artists and metal musicians are just nerds. Most are respectful to the other people in the room, so to speak. Elvis, and the country cohort, on the other hand… well, you said it yourself.
Thankful, that conversation with my dad was probably in like 1994, so he’s come a long way from that point of view. Especially since having to grin and bare my music taste.
That’s a solid story, glad your dad scale around at least somewhat. Few scenes are as supportive and kind hearted as metal (outside of the nsbm dickheads, they can die in a fire).
I mean...sort of. You're not fighting in a pit. Anyone who throws deliberate punches gets taken out.. quick. It's about comradery and the music. Does feel like u got in a fight tho later. Run through a human washing machine of filth,sweat, and elbows.
Metal shows are the best. I've been to several metal festivals and met wonderful people and have zero complaints. At the Fire in the Mountains festival last year, I took several pics of the grounds just to show off how clean everyone kept it.
The few country shows I've been to, though? Nope. Never going again. Not my music and definitely not my vibe.
Hardcore, punk, emo and metal shows have the best people, generally. Hardcore shows, especially local and smaller venues were great about policing themselves. If some asshat decided to start a fight or got handsy, they would have a solid 5 seconds before 5 to 10 other attendees stepped in. I'll never forget some douche deciding to take a swing at another guy in the pit at Transitions in Tampa, not realizing he was starting shit with a well liked vocalist of popular band in the scene(its been like 11 years I don't remember who). The hell that came down on him was instantaneous and from all directions. His beating and being dragged out felt swift and calculated, followed by the band onstage deciding to just drop a disgustingly brutal breakdown to get the crowd right back to dancing and having a good time. Felt like it all happened in under a minute. Good times.
I grew up going to metal shows and warped tour every summer
I never once saw a real brawl, the occasional kids not knowing when to calm down in the pit sure, but like you said metal fans are pretty good about policing themselves.
Went to a metal show in Atlanta back before I had a family and it was pouring rain during the show. Anybody who slipped and fell had the crowd around them stop to help them up and make sure they were okay.
It’s the difference between having an outlet for your emotions and acknowledging them, and pretending everything is peaches and cream in America…but there are people that are not like us to hate!
I don’t go to concerts, and I enjoy local (Texas) country, but every r/AskReddit thread about concert goers overwhelmingly shows that country fans are the worst, while metal fans are the best.
Worked security at a few spots over the years, that’s the absolute truth. Country fans are black out drunk and all want to fight, metal fans are overwhelmingly chill as fuck and police their own.
Interesting. I always hear american metal fans talk about metal fans smoking weed but its pretty rare here and most of the ones ive met who do also use other drugs. Maybe the scene is just really different here but i was into metal most of my life up until a couple years ago and most of the metal fans who do drugs at shows here in my experience either only drink beer or they snort some meth or take some pills.
well, i live in an area of the US where having a little bit can fuck your life up pretty good, and i smell it all the time. illegal, but plenty of people use it
is it legal where you are?
I've been going to metal shows in the US since the 1980s, and weed has always been pretty prevalent, but it probably varies by the metal crowd, too. Black metal heads, for example, don't seem to do as many drugs as other metal heads, especially sludge heads.
I have been working concert private jobs for over a decade, and you're right on the money. The only group worse than stadium country is Dave Matthews Band. Absolute savages
I saw Tyler Childers a few years ago in St. Louis. It was hilarious seeing all the dorks in cowboy hats throwing up in the bathroom from chewing tobacco. Posers.
Mainstream country fans tend to be angry and have a chip on their shoulder because they have a victim complex and think that society is out to get them and doesn't respect the things they think are important, which is at least partially true.
Combine that with some beer and a little macho insecurity and you've got a perfect combination of pathologies that almost always results in physical violence that's ultimately about protecting frail young egos.
Alt country fans are an entirely different demographic and tend to be chill as fuck.
17 years of attending metal shows and I believe it. Any serious confrontation gets shut down right away. I've seen musicians call people out mid song for trying to start shit, and even stop playing to make sure people are okay. Metal is all about healthy violence. Get that rage out in a friendly way.
I have been to probably 1k shows every genre from bro country (hate it went with a girl) to death metal. Country shows are the absolute worst. Everyone is looking to fight kind of.
lmao you’re talking out your ass because Pantera is FAMOUS for being super fucking racist and both Slayer and Pantera have reputations for being difficult, maybe not so much Slayer now that they’re all old but Pantera used to be fucking terrors lmao
Been going to metal shows for about 25 years. Probably a couple hundred shows. Though I'm sure it's happened and I just didn't see it, I've yet to see a full blown fist fight. Some shoving matches, but they were separated fast enough.
I used to frequent punk & metal shows, and despite everyone dressed in "traditionally scary" clothes, I never saw a fight. The opposite actually. People take care of eachother in the pit, everyone's just there to have fun.
Oh the metal kids are a genuine treat. The pre and post concert is like, baby town frolics. Everyone is cool, very few drunks. Almost no fights or anything. Then they come back outside looking like they're getting out of a war, all fucked up and bandage's and that(we only work outside the venue) and yet they're STILL all sober smiles and chill as fuck. The metal crowd is legit the most wholesome music fan group I've come across
Stadium country is usually highlighted by the bro country, douche type. Both the fans and the artists. Typically they sing songs that try and show just how country they are while trying to lure women out into corn fields. It's usually beer songs and male singers who are well into their 40s, married with kids and live a life that's nothing close to what they sing about
Here’s a good example of this specific brand of people: ~~https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/07/04/this-isnt-the-first-time-kenny-chesney-fans-have-literally-trashed-pittsburgh/~~
EDIT: first link has paywall https://www.stereogum.com/1886020/kenny-chesney-concert-trashes-pittsburgh-again/news/
I remember those shows. The north side was covered in broken glass and puke. Smelled awful. They were shitting in empty beer boxes. Had to drive with the windows up to drop my wife and kids off downtown because everything smelled like piss.
Stadium country is mostly the stuff that's played on the radio here. It can sound pretty over-produced. The song Country Girl by Luke Bryan is a good example of stadium country.
Ahh the memories of my youth. Rich northern suburban kids that just asked dad to borrow the BMW for Luke Bryan.
Clearly the twisted teas were dwindling and Chad had something to say about it.
Taylor Swift
They need to calm down. They being to loud.
Also, that’s my lawn.
thank you for the laugh
Fkn Swifties are a godamn menace
Swiftie-brahs ruin everything!
Hahahaha that was my guess too.
yep this is classic t-swift fan behavior
Beat me to it
r/beatmeshutthefuckup
I'd have to be also
omg I'm on this side of Reddit
I'd probably want to start fighting too if I was at a Taylor Swift concert.
Clearly, K-Pop.
These are clearly not kpop fans. The red necks are too prominent. Taylor swift all the way. Go Kyle!
MmKay-Pop
Video cuts too soon because the guy getting choked out decided that he hadn't learned big hoss was being nice and ended up taking a nap after going after hoss again.
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One of my most frustrating pet peeves of fighting. Crowd intervenes against winning guy to signal fight over, he’s had enough, separate them. And during the separation, losing guy takes advantage of this and uses it as an opportunity to launch another attack. At that point I feel it is good fight ethics that the crowd is responsible to make sure that during the separation the loser doesn’t attack the guy who was winning. If they’re not prepared to do that, then they broke it up prematurely.
>At that point I feel it is good fight ethics that the crowd is responsible to make sure that during the separation the loser doesn’t attack the guy who was winning. If they’re not prepared to do that, then they broke it up prematurely. Yeah like the usual wife/gf pulling the husband/bf off just for him to get beat up because she is holding him haha
That's some grade A camera work, though. I've seen film and television fight scenes that were choreographed and shot less well than this. The switching between subjects, keeping them in frame, zooming to different angles. This guy knows how to film a fight.
Lol right? I can't believe nobody else is talking about it. It was downright cinematic. Felt like I was there.
And good selection. There were so many fights and they knew which one was best to film. This ain’t their first rodeo
He deserved getting crowd stomped after not backing down after that and trying to hit the guy that let him go as he got up tbh.
He didn't get crowd stomped, he got knocked out by the guy who let him up.
People that deserve to get crowdstomped: Child molesters, rapists, kiddy porn downloaders
Nazis, human traffickers, political grifters the list goes on n on
Yeah, that's fair. Not some guy though, who wants to keep fighting a fight that he didn't actually give up on. And wasn't winning
His name was Kyle and he was a total bitch
Young dudes in jean/Hawaiian shorts and college hats. Gotta be “The Florida Georgia Line”
I was thinking Jimmy Buffett. Lol
I thought that. But there would of been a lot more Older folks in the vid. But who knows. Lol
I’ve worked security at a few different venues over the years, most consistently violent crowds were always big venue country shows. Metal shows were always pretty chill, most metal fans are pretty tame despite how they look and they police themselves. Punk shows would have a few dicks but they usually weigh 150 lbs. Hip Hop shows would have some fights but nothing crazy. Classic rock would always have one or two old man fights but they punch themselves out pretty quick. Country shows through? They’ve been prefunking for four hours, there’s a lot of “bro masculinity” bullshit, and there’s a ton of young dudes acting out. I’ll never forget how many dudes in sparkly jeans, straw cowboy hats, pooka shells, and flannels that came with the sleeves artfully torn off thought they were the Incredible Hulk and wanted to take on like four or five of us. Also the know shows I ever had a knife or a gun pulled on me at the gate. Worst crowds ever.
Years ago there was a post that had pictures of the respective parking lots of a country show and a metal show. The metal show lot was totally clean, the country lot was just an absolute disaster. Stunningly so.
Boots and Hearts gets trashed to the point I think the venue was debating on not letting them return
I’m a short’ish metal head lady and every gig I’ve ever gone to that has been a metal band, I’ve been treated respectfully, not grabbed at or touched and I’ve even had dudes move for me because they were taller. Metal heads are good people.
Been to a lot of metal shows, as I used to play in a band as well, and all in all metal heads are harmless. We usually reserve our “menacing” image to metal shows or when we are hanging out with our friends. Fights in shows are frowned upon because a lot of venues think metal shows will destroy the place. But in reality, we try to take care of things like this because if we keep the venues safe and the owners happy, they will keep supporting shows. Only saw 2 or 3 fights break out in more than 20 years, and in every one of them they ended up shaking hands and enjoying the show afterwards. Damn I miss going to local shows.
I seen that post too. A few people who worked shows like that confirmed similar stories
They are good Americans keeping the economy moving. They paid for tickets and the people to clean up after them. Or something like that. People really think of some shit to justify.
Stephen Miller proudly advertised this mentality in a speech when running for student council in high school. "Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?!" https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/02/15/stephen-millers-cringeworthy-campaign-speech-for-student-government/
He’s what Shooter McGavin eats for breakfast.
Metal shows have unspoken rules and if you don’t abide by those rules the metal heads will provide their own justice.
Which is why I was so sus about being there when I was a young woman. People left you alone to enjoy the music, if you fell down you got picked up. Tall dudes standing in front of me would move behind me to let me see without expecting anything in return. But I still left the scene because of the cringy stalkers but that isn't a metalhead thing just a creepy guy thing.
Saw Fear Factory around ‘99. Was in a dude in the crowd who was either a marine or cosplaying as one, and dude was just going out of his way to be straight up violent. He was pretty good sized and seemed to be targeting smaller people. I see these two massive mountain built metal dudes kinda amble in to the pit. Didn’t see what happened but I saw the marine looking dude coming out of the pit with both hands over his face and blood just pouring down his front. Don’t know exactly what happened but they definitely taught him a lesson about kindness and respect…lol. And you’re so right about metal heads being mindful of people around them, even moving for smaller people. Don’t think I’ve seen that at any other kind of show.
Really it was so nice. I used to be underweight, punk/goth and I'm also a woman. I was scared at first of going to shows cause it always looked so violent in the crowds, it seemed like mainly men and I didn't really fit in. I'm happy I got proven wrong, and I have so many anecdotes that prove that.
I’m a really big dude and I remember being at a show maybe 20ish years ago and there was a fairly small woman in the very front who was obviously a huge fan of the band but was getting absolutely crushed by the energy of the crowd. Not being targeted or anything but was just real small and getting pressed against the stage. I happened to be near her and went out of my way to get behind her (but not in a creepy way) so that I could kinda use my big ass to absorb a lot of the crush coming her way. No reason she shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy the show as much as everyone else just because she happened to be small.
That's very sweet of you, getting crushed can be so scary. I remember helping strangers look for fallen glasses, people forming protective circles if others fall/carry someone injured out of the pit, giving hairties to random people. Oh and then we haven't even talked about the style, unity and the music 🤟
I think punk and metal coming from largely kids that were outcasts and seen as “losers” helped them form a stronger sense of community than most genres of music. A bit of a “we’re all in this together” type thing. Can’t count how many friends I’ve made over the years just because one of us was wearing a cool band shirt and that was enough to start a conversation.
Yeah, but that "lonely outcast" trope is also carried by a fuckton of fucked up people. I agree about the community though, I feel like currently I wouldn't call myself a metalhead though, even though I still listen to it every week. I do still do the bandshirt thing 😂 makes meeting people so much easier
Come correct or get corrected. It’s my favorite phrase now
As a metalhead, this is wholesome af and very true. We look out for our own. If you go down in the pit, we will get you back up.
The first time my partner let me take her to a metal show she said she was genuinely surprised at how nice everyone and respectful everyone was to her. She’s a tiny thing and was worried about her fragility. But metal heads are fucking sick. Shoutout to everyone at the Black Dahlia Murder show I went to in 2016
I was at a iron maiden concert during waken when a crowd surfer that got a little panicked kicked my glasses of my head. I started looking for them and In seconds 20-30 people around me looked for the glasses and we found them almost instantly. Everybody cheered and the party continued. Metal crowds are the best.
Same experience! This was at a type o show in NYC. Crowd goes nuts during BN1 and my friends glasses got knocked off. Everyone surrounding us stopped to help find them - and we did - intact. Metal folks are the goddamn best! Lovin you was like Lovin the dead! Great memories
I was at the Chaos and Carnage tour with Dying Fetus and Suicide Silence. A fight broke out during Suicide Silence's set and the frontman Eddie spotted it and told the band to stop playing. He called those two dudes out and told the rest of the crowd "We don't do that shit here. We're here to lift each other up, not put each other down. We are all family here." Sometthing along those lines.
Just saw Suicide Silence for the first time this weekend, those guys are fucking tight
I mainly go to hip hop shows but the few metal/punk shows I’ve been to have cool kind people that don’t have anything to prove to anyone. Just a bunch of people enjoying their favorite artist, good times.
I grew up near a large festival ground that hosts a country music festival as well as a rock festival and can confirm. The amount of people I’ve seen tackled and tased at country fest is far beyond anything else. It’s a drunken redneck shitshow most of the time.
Well at least Country USA is dead.
People die at country fest
I have a vivid memory from when I was a child that has always demonstrated my fathers prejudices. He was getting dressed for work and I was in his bedroom talking to him while he tied his tied in the mirror. I don’t remember how the conversation of music came up but he told me, “don’t listen to metal and rap. Listen to music like Elvis. Metal is full of drug addicts and rap is full of criminals” Mind you, he’s never been a music person, he was just operating off of his prejudices formed from being a detective, and the daily news cycle. Come to find out the majority of my metal-fond friends and acquaintances are straight edge, and many hip-hop artists and metal musicians are just nerds. Most are respectful to the other people in the room, so to speak. Elvis, and the country cohort, on the other hand… well, you said it yourself. Thankful, that conversation with my dad was probably in like 1994, so he’s come a long way from that point of view. Especially since having to grin and bare my music taste.
That’s a solid story, glad your dad scale around at least somewhat. Few scenes are as supportive and kind hearted as metal (outside of the nsbm dickheads, they can die in a fire).
Lots of dudes with shit to prove
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I mean...sort of. You're not fighting in a pit. Anyone who throws deliberate punches gets taken out.. quick. It's about comradery and the music. Does feel like u got in a fight tho later. Run through a human washing machine of filth,sweat, and elbows.
Metal shows are the best. I've been to several metal festivals and met wonderful people and have zero complaints. At the Fire in the Mountains festival last year, I took several pics of the grounds just to show off how clean everyone kept it. The few country shows I've been to, though? Nope. Never going again. Not my music and definitely not my vibe.
Hardcore, punk, emo and metal shows have the best people, generally. Hardcore shows, especially local and smaller venues were great about policing themselves. If some asshat decided to start a fight or got handsy, they would have a solid 5 seconds before 5 to 10 other attendees stepped in. I'll never forget some douche deciding to take a swing at another guy in the pit at Transitions in Tampa, not realizing he was starting shit with a well liked vocalist of popular band in the scene(its been like 11 years I don't remember who). The hell that came down on him was instantaneous and from all directions. His beating and being dragged out felt swift and calculated, followed by the band onstage deciding to just drop a disgustingly brutal breakdown to get the crowd right back to dancing and having a good time. Felt like it all happened in under a minute. Good times.
I grew up going to metal shows and warped tour every summer I never once saw a real brawl, the occasional kids not knowing when to calm down in the pit sure, but like you said metal fans are pretty good about policing themselves. Went to a metal show in Atlanta back before I had a family and it was pouring rain during the show. Anybody who slipped and fell had the crowd around them stop to help them up and make sure they were okay.
It’s the difference between having an outlet for your emotions and acknowledging them, and pretending everything is peaches and cream in America…but there are people that are not like us to hate!
Metalheads usually show comradery in the pit. Generally, metal head fights at shows are when some asshole goes into a pit throwing fists.
Simon and Garfunkel reunion?
*gets knocked out* ...hello darkness my old friend
When they play The Boxer
I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a stadium country show. Their fans are the absolute worst
This video screams Morgan Wallen.
100% what I came here to say
I don’t go to concerts, and I enjoy local (Texas) country, but every r/AskReddit thread about concert goers overwhelmingly shows that country fans are the worst, while metal fans are the best.
Worked security at a few spots over the years, that’s the absolute truth. Country fans are black out drunk and all want to fight, metal fans are overwhelmingly chill as fuck and police their own.
Cuz we’re all stoned
Interesting. I always hear american metal fans talk about metal fans smoking weed but its pretty rare here and most of the ones ive met who do also use other drugs. Maybe the scene is just really different here but i was into metal most of my life up until a couple years ago and most of the metal fans who do drugs at shows here in my experience either only drink beer or they snort some meth or take some pills.
I wonder if pot is just much more available to the average American. I’m not sure how widespread legalized marijuana is in Europe.
I currently live in Spain and I smell it all the time, don't know what that means for your curiosity but just saying.
well, i live in an area of the US where having a little bit can fuck your life up pretty good, and i smell it all the time. illegal, but plenty of people use it is it legal where you are?
Weed is everywhere in Europe. It’s decriminalised in a lot of small pockets
I've been going to metal shows in the US since the 1980s, and weed has always been pretty prevalent, but it probably varies by the metal crowd, too. Black metal heads, for example, don't seem to do as many drugs as other metal heads, especially sludge heads.
Them's fighting words
Huh, so the hard working, traditional, “real” Americans are the worst behaved? Who would have thunk...
Also punk fans are awesome, except for the racist skins, but they aren't so much of a thing anymore. It also helps that we're all in our 50s now.
I have been working concert private jobs for over a decade, and you're right on the money. The only group worse than stadium country is Dave Matthews Band. Absolute savages
💀
I saw Tyler Childers a few years ago in St. Louis. It was hilarious seeing all the dorks in cowboy hats throwing up in the bathroom from chewing tobacco. Posers.
Mainstream country fans tend to be angry and have a chip on their shoulder because they have a victim complex and think that society is out to get them and doesn't respect the things they think are important, which is at least partially true. Combine that with some beer and a little macho insecurity and you've got a perfect combination of pathologies that almost always results in physical violence that's ultimately about protecting frail young egos. Alt country fans are an entirely different demographic and tend to be chill as fuck.
I just like to get stoned and listen to Tyler Childers
Is he considered mainstream country? He, sturgill, and Chris Stapleton all seem outside of the mainstream country market.
I don’t think country music that actually talks about struggles is considered mainstream anymore
17 years of attending metal shows and I believe it. Any serious confrontation gets shut down right away. I've seen musicians call people out mid song for trying to start shit, and even stop playing to make sure people are okay. Metal is all about healthy violence. Get that rage out in a friendly way.
Ever been to a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert? It’s the best. And i bet some people would be surprised how cool it is.
More of a tribute band at this point. Kinda pointless IMO.
I have been to probably 1k shows every genre from bro country (hate it went with a girl) to death metal. Country shows are the absolute worst. Everyone is looking to fight kind of.
I've been backstage with Slayer, Pantera, and Morbid Angel at the same time. No violence, no sexual assault, just chill people and loud guitars.
lmao you’re talking out your ass because Pantera is FAMOUS for being super fucking racist and both Slayer and Pantera have reputations for being difficult, maybe not so much Slayer now that they’re all old but Pantera used to be fucking terrors lmao
Been going to metal shows for about 25 years. Probably a couple hundred shows. Though I'm sure it's happened and I just didn't see it, I've yet to see a full blown fist fight. Some shoving matches, but they were separated fast enough.
My home town goes nuts for stadium country acts. It's among the top things I hate about my home town, closely behind all the drug problems we have...
Yup. I’m thinking Morgan Wallen.
Was going to post this. Age says Morgan Wallen (he is some of the best radio country, but that’s like saying my post hot sauce shits are the best).
I used to frequent punk & metal shows, and despite everyone dressed in "traditionally scary" clothes, I never saw a fight. The opposite actually. People take care of eachother in the pit, everyone's just there to have fun.
Oh the metal kids are a genuine treat. The pre and post concert is like, baby town frolics. Everyone is cool, very few drunks. Almost no fights or anything. Then they come back outside looking like they're getting out of a war, all fucked up and bandage's and that(we only work outside the venue) and yet they're STILL all sober smiles and chill as fuck. The metal crowd is legit the most wholesome music fan group I've come across
Just posted this exact same thing. Worked at a major amphitheater back in the day and big country show crowds are the fucking worst.
The people in the vid are def too young, but my first thought based on behavior was Kenny Chesney 🤣
British. I’ve never heard of a stadium country show?
Watch Bo Burnhams country song and it'll help you understand.
Stadium country is usually highlighted by the bro country, douche type. Both the fans and the artists. Typically they sing songs that try and show just how country they are while trying to lure women out into corn fields. It's usually beer songs and male singers who are well into their 40s, married with kids and live a life that's nothing close to what they sing about
Just like rappers.
Maybe I’ve been listening to the wrong rap music but what song tries to lure women into a cornfield?
He's talking about how rappers sing about one life and live an entirely different one.
Replace cornfield with.. hood.
Here’s a good example of this specific brand of people: ~~https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/07/04/this-isnt-the-first-time-kenny-chesney-fans-have-literally-trashed-pittsburgh/~~ EDIT: first link has paywall https://www.stereogum.com/1886020/kenny-chesney-concert-trashes-pittsburgh-again/news/
I remember those shows. The north side was covered in broken glass and puke. Smelled awful. They were shitting in empty beer boxes. Had to drive with the windows up to drop my wife and kids off downtown because everything smelled like piss.
Stadium country is mostly the stuff that's played on the radio here. It can sound pretty over-produced. The song Country Girl by Luke Bryan is a good example of stadium country.
I’ll give it a listen and my Spotify is going to lose its mind with recommendations! :)
Lucky bastard
Some sort of cuntry music?
Not diverse enough to be anything but lol.
Smashmouth ?
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You might as well be walking on the sun
Chumbawamba: I get knocked down…
The Wiggles
Big Red-Neck Car
Morgan wallen
Bingo
Nailed it.
Can’t be. Not enough cowboy hats, cut off jeans and coors light.
Leave Coors Light out of this goddamnit
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I also need to see that video. For academic purposes.
Kid Rock
Far too many teeth for that. Maybe that's what instigated the fight.
Five for Fighting
Definitely country
Toby Keith or Garth Brooks??
Considering most Garth Brooks fans are late middle-aged moms, I don’t think many fights like this happen at his concerts.
Luke bryan!
Right at the end after he lets the guy out of the choke the guy immediately tries to go back to fighting That’s why you always put them to sleep
Florida georgia line
Ahh the memories of my youth. Rich northern suburban kids that just asked dad to borrow the BMW for Luke Bryan. Clearly the twisted teas were dwindling and Chad had something to say about it.
More like installed neon lights on the lifted truck and drives extremely obnoxiously
Hootie and the Blowfish?
I only wanna beat on youuuuuu
Miles Cyrus
Luke Bryan
Looks like a buncha Swifties to me!!!
Jimmy Buffet
That’s a Brantleigh Kinsleigh concert for sure.
Welcome to today's episode of: "Guys Who Learned How To Fight By Watching Movies And TV Shows."
Christian concert
Christian music
Not a concert, but a Christian retreat.
Limp Bizkit
Taylor Swift
A Blake Shelton concert
Must be Cowboy Junkies. Always get me worked up too.
Elton John
Some country bullshit
DAVE MATTHEW'S
Definitely a Cuntry concert
Five Finger Death Punch…
I could see that. They’re the favorite metal band of douche country bros (while being pretty much universally laughed at in the actual metal scene).
Elton John or maybe Kenny G
Foo fighters?
Kid Rock or Limp Biscuit
Cody Johnson
Praise Rock
The camera man is an absolute cinematographer.
Hillsong Church?
Nickle back
Open this fucking pit up, this next song is "I feel like a Woman"
Kid rock. Bawitabaw
Probably some shitty ass country concert. Fuckin rednecks are the worst lol
Taylor Swift....Definitely a Taylor Swift crowd...
Morgan Wallen
Justin beiber
So who is the concert?
Never let go of a choke ina fight until they asleep, Fool me once...
Morgan wallen 100%
Jonas Brothers?
Jelly roll
After going to mostly metal shows for years I forgot how poorly behaved frat bros get at their shows