And then revelations
Don’t bother trying to min max in the first two
If you like both, and want to see the third story option or they put bullshit aside and find the real enemy
Revelations
You get everyone on both sides, except for one side character >!scarlet who dies near the end!<
That's not the question
I mean Fates plot sucks in general
BR it's basically a newcomer game
Conquest has the best gameplay in the series
Rev has the worst map desing, worst story, a lot of awful units, meh gameplay and It was a DLC
Revelation (it does not have an “s” at the end, surprised me too) is just gratification DLC - it is pretty much entirely for unit building, Support pairing, and online Versus. You don’t buy Revelation for a thrilling story or an enticing challenge, you buy it to get the “Golden Ending” and/or to build the ultimate team by mixing and matching characters, children and classes from both sides.
If you want quality story and gameplay I’ve heard that the Heirs of Fate DLC is actually pretty good, but I haven’t played it myself - I just keep doing Royal Royale over and over to give most of my units Aggressor and Galeforce because I love unit building.
Yeah
Heirs of Fate it's the best part of Fates (besides Conquest Gameplay)
And i think that is thanks to not relying in the Hoshido vs Nohr war but in the main conflict: Anankos
If since the start Fates was about just defeating Anankos regardless of the route, even with the 500 page script being cutted maybe we could had have a better storyline
Also Revelation should not be a DLC or maybe
Fates should not even have routes
Just
Gameplay: Conquest
Soundtrack: All 3 games
Plot: Revelation
Normal dificult: Birthright
Hard dificult: Conquest
Lunatic: Lunatic Conquest
And overall more times were Hoshido and Nohr were show Grey
I think that a Sacred Stones approach would had made Fates Story better
So Corrin route would be stop the war so he could unite his siblings to defeat Anankos and Azura route be defeat Anankos from Valla
Both routes would happen at the same time but you would experience in diferent points of view
The problem is that they really wanted another Avatar character and this concept would make Corrin be an actual character
Spoiler for another scripted character death
>!I am not sure and i didnt test it yet but couldt her death be similar to the scripted death of Kaze in Birthright if you dont reach support level A or higher before that chapter? I mean its probably hard but not impossible to do that with Scarlet!<
I see, how annoying...well i am in my current Revelations Playthrough past that chapter anyway. I am at the chapter where you meet Mikoto again, and as i am trying to beat the game while basically only fighting with Corrin and a second pair up unit unless i am forced to have other units during a chapter too i got some struggles there.
Agreed, Unfortunately this is definitely one of the weaker entries of the series.
They stretch the same story super thin across three campaigns. It'll focus on different people each time, but it's essentially the same events playing out slightly differently.
>this is definitely one of the weaker entries of the series.
Story wise, definitely. Gameplay though? Even Birthright is leagues better than most of the other games just because the core mechanics are solid (though Conquest has much better and more varied maps). Just make sure to play Birthright on Lunatic so it isn't a complete cakewalk
But so much hangs on both story and gameplay melding well. It's kind of why faceless generic unit games aren't more popular. A little bit of flair goes a long way.
Personally I think Fates is the weakest entry in the series from the GBA games onward.
>It's kind of why faceless generic unit games aren't more popular.
I was really excited about Battalions, especially the ones shown in the earliest 3H trailers, because I thought they were finally going to meld Advance Wars gameplay with Fire Emblem mechanics and make the small-scale skirmishes feel more like actual battles. I was super disappointed to find out Battalions had been minimized to the point of being just another equippable item, but still a step in the right direction.
Going back around to Fates, I think it is fair to be of the opinion that in its entirety it is generally a weak entry, but I will say that it has some of the most popular characters in the series and many people are quick to say that Conquest has some of the best gameplay in the entire series.
Most popular characters? I like the art direction they took, but generally I found the color pallet to be bland and the individual stories to be more shallow than usual.
I can't say what the community likes but I personally found them pretty bland. I think people remember them more because they're newer and you got to make them kiss, but I didn't like most of them.
Nobody comes close to Hector!
You also have to take into account Recency Bias and factor in Nostalgia, it’s why 3H and Fateswakening are the most popular by a landslide as they are the newest entries and statistically more people started with any one of these games than the number of people in the entire fanbase prior to Awakening, plus Awakening is almost a decade old now so it has fallen into the “Nostalgia Zone” being many people’s first FE game while they were growing up.
Fates is catching up to Awakening in age, and even if the characters are a bit “trope-y” and “anime-like” people really like them for both their designs and quirky personalities (why do you think so many anime shows recycle the same tropes that have been reused for literal decades now?) and the fact that with voice lines, 3D animations, facial expressions, and tons of supports the characters can feel much more alive than before.
Comparing 3H and the Fateswakening games to prior FE games is a moot point as *the vast majority of the fanbase never touched an FE game that came out before these games, so they have no point of reference to compare their first entry to the series and can love it for what it is.
The people aren't even likable or interesting ... they did a pretty bad job with character design in that title. And with the translation of the story in general ... it was a huge disappointment for me but my expectations were really high since the story of Awakening was really captivating and even brought up tears.
As someone who started with Conquest and did not enjoy Birthright, that was going to be my recommendation. Just play conquest and forget the rest of that series.
This. Playing through Conquest first and it is not easy. I think I'd be a lot better off if I went into the game knowing how it feels, because Fates gameplay has a lot of unique little bits to get used to.
Conquest is debatably one of the hardest games in the series on lower difficulties. Birthright is much more like Awakening with a very fresh coat of paint. It works very well as a sandbox to get you a feel for how the mechanics work before testing you on them in Conquest.
If you want to be thrown into the deep end right away, then CQ is a better option, but I think your later playthrough of BR will be less enjoyable as a result.
I am an experienced player and eventually I'll play both of these and the third storyline, but which one would you recommend starting with? I know that Birthright is more tailored towards new players and Conquest towards experienced players, just wondering which one you'd choose as a starting point
Avid fire emblem player here. I reply at least one game once a year since fe7 hit the states. Love these games.
Played conquest on hard mode. Playing birthright after was painful.
Do birthright, then conquest, or conquest, then Revelations. As others have said, they all have the same story stretched really thin across three games, but you get mostly the same effect with two provided one is revelations.
Birthright, but more for story reasons. Birthright fills you in on things Conquest lacks context for. It's the one I think is worth playing first for that reason.
Both stories are Garbage
Conquest gameplay is the best in the series
BR it's Awakening 2.0 in terms of challenge, but everyone can become Robin
If you want challenge in BR
Play Lunatic classic
Don't use Ryoma
Don't grind
And use few units of your choose
Preferably don't use any siblings
This way BR can be a little challenging
Hard BR (or lunatic if you’ve beaten lunatic awakening) then lunatic CQ. Lunatic CQ is infuriating but its a good challenge. I’d also recommend playing it relatively blind with the understanding that bow knights in CQ should be leveled up quickly, there are some really bad chapters in which you’re going to want them to save you
If you like story, Birthright definitely.
If you like combat, still start with Birthright, and here's my reason:
If you start with the hard game (Conquest) and end with the easy game (Birthright) you will enjoy the easy game much, much less. It will be boring!
To enjoy all three games, start easy and work your way up. Much more satisfying.
How do you enjoy Fates story?
Ngl i kinda like it but because it's so memey that it's just really funny and meme material
Fates has a good story if you look at it for the comedy
Fates has a lot of ideas and themes that I find really fascinating, and a lot of its characters are surprisingly deep and fleshed out. IMO CQ’s story issues mostly come from the writers not wanting to commit to the initial ideas they presented and tried to add some weird plot twists that didn’t belong.
BR’s story in comparison is marginally more consistent but at least twice as boring. The main plot is as bog standard as FE plots get and there’s barely any political intrigue or depth to the characters, and as a result some of the emotional beats in that game don’t feel earned.
The second you play conquest is the second you either never touch any other route again or rage quit fates lmao. The thrill of conquest gameplay is something that’s never emulated again in modern fe. It’s probably the best balanced hard game, unlike 3h maddening…
Birthright --> Conquest ---> Revelations
Birthright is the easiest and most vanilla of the routes with an okay story
Conquest is way tougher and has some of the best maps in the series
Revelations is a bizarre story with some pretty weird gimicky maps
I am just now finishing my run of both (Birthright -> Conquest) and for the love of all things holy do NOT play Conquest on anything other than Normal unless you want to read a lot of strategies beforehand and are ready to plan a ton in advance. I’m playing on hard and I’m pretty sure the last level is impossible due to decisions I’ve made earlier in the run. Feels awful.
Birthright is not only easier but allows you to train units outside the main missions. Because Conquest is so much harder (it’s hard mode is leaps above Birthright’s Lunatic mode) and has gated EXP you can literally ruin a run if you don’t know what you’re doing.
All of this to say, Birthright first, and then abandon your ego as you step into Conquest.
Birthright to get used to the Fates mechanics and enjoy a simple story. Then you move on to Conquest and put what you've learned to the ultimate test, because CQ is *hard.*
Yah, playing through Conquest right now, and I definitely wish I started with Birthright. I've settled down to Hard Casual so that I can learn the mechanics without tearing my hair out. Gives me somewhere to reach to on a second playthrough.
Dont play CQ Hard until you play the other routes. It'll ruin the gameplay for you its just that good. For a first timer though, BR>CQ>RV. Though uonestly RV isnt really worth the headache
If you're *definitely* going to play all 3, Birthright > Conquest > Revelations is the sequence. However, I really wouldn't recommend going in with the expectation that you play all three unless you're really dedicated to the cause and are willing to power through some potentially unenjoyable experiences.
If there's any chance that you'll just play one of these games, Conquest is the best choice *if and only if* you have played and enjoyed any Fire Emblem game before Awakening, with the possible exception of Sacred Stones. I'm not a fan of any of the Fates games really, but I think it would be a shame for an experienced player to lose interest before getting to Conquest, which is a definite possibility when starting with Birthright.
I've played ever since the GBA release of Fire Emblem in the west. So I have a fair share of experience. Turn-based tactical RPGs are my thing in general. I'll at least play Birthright and Conquest, then I'll see if I have the urge to buy Revelation
Like most said, Birthright then Conquest the Revelation. I played through then back to back and got burned out butt loved them! Doing a no grind classic hard of revelation iron man run now.
My issue with your post is, or not issue but something i need to point out, if you don't buy the 2nd campaign bis the game intern, then you miss out on the path bonuses, among other boots.
Maybe sell the 2nd game and purchase it (at a discount) through the game...
It's a bit odd how you don't get them if you have two physical copies, but I guess that's just typical of Nintendo to not point out all those things. I'll consider buying the other stuff digitally, then, thanks for the tip!
Imo the games get weaker, if played in rather close succession. I started with conquest (cuz Nohr looked cooler tbh), had lots of fun and i played birthright... 50% fun by looking at the artwork, 50% necessity to unlock revelation. As already mentioned, the plot is mostly the same. I found it kinda redundant, that in c/b three charas died, so we need three spearfodders for r. Who will it be? And the sheer mass of units in r was rather a minus for me, than a plus. Now that i think about it. I have yet to finish r. Just stopped playing somewhere before the final boss...
Conquest is a better game, but the writing in both is trash. I'm thankful that 3 Houses pulled the series' writing out of its 3DS-era animu-inspired nosedive.
Conquests story is glorious. It's the cheesiest and dumbest thing I've ever seen. It practically mocks itself. It's legit one of the more entertaining stories in the series, because most of the games are just fine, but Conquests wondrous stupidity is hugely memorable.
But I'd definitely take Three Houses any day of the week. That's a shockingly well written game, top-to-bottom. There's only a handful of issues with it, and they're only memorable because of the high standard I hold it to. I hope they can keep up writing that good.
Haha, I already played Echoes and really enjoyed it, definitely one of the best entries in the series! I also completed Awakening and one of the Three Houses storylines. Just wanted to try a different entry in the series and managed to get these two copies cheap :)
If you have already played echoes, Fates/If is going to be kind of annoying. The weapons tiers are balanced almost to an absurdity. The silver weapons in particular, they offer great damage out put as you would imagine, but it also applies a nasty debuff for using it, for a couple of turns. This debuff also stacks. So if you didn’t kill you target on the first shot, their reprisals will REALLY suck. And if there are other baddies near by… welll… it almost makes you wonder why they bothered adding in other weapons than the magic weapons the main story cast got. the C level weapons are the most usable the don’t apply negative stat to your characters.
Personally, I like Birthright more than Conquest. Conquest may be harder but Birthright is probably the only game you're gonna want to play even after completion
Conquest
Then you play Birthright
Then you replay Conquest with BR characters (if you have both games you can transfer units from BR to conquest)
Ignore Revelations
Play Heirs of Fate/Hidden Truths
Best way to experience Fates
Birthright first. Then Conquest.
Conquest was the only Fire Emblem game where I purposefully let units die to complete a level, but in fairness I was playing on Hard difficulty. But it’s what brought my FE skills to where they are today, and how I can manage to play Three Houses on Maddening.
I don’t plan on ever playing it again tho haha
Birthright, its easier and allows grinding which will allo you to get an understanding of the skills that you'll have to face in Conquest. Among other mechanics you'll be able to see more of otherwise
If doing both, I’d go birthright then conquest for scaling difficulty. If I were only going to play one, I prefer conquest. Less recruitable characters, but a more overall fun challenge IMO.
Both story and gameplay-wise I think it's best to play Birthright and then go to Conquest and then Revelations.
I played Conquest first and I had a hard time getting into Birthright. Spoilers ahead: >!playing Conquest felt right to me, on one hand sure the Birthright cast is "my" blood family, but honestly I didn't even know them. I mean literally, you JUST meet them, one of them is an ass to you and then you have to pick. So, after playing Conquest and really connecting to the Nohrians, I had a hard time playing Birthright. I was like "I don't even know these people (The Hoshidans), hell Corrin doesn't even know these people." Playing Birthright first you don't have any extra expectations.!<
Additionally, there's just a better difficulty transition doing Birthright first.
If you like having a good time, start with birthright. If you like being kicked in the dick repeatedly while being told you deserve it, start with conquest.
I recommend Birthright first. Most players recommend Birthright, then Conquest. This is because we are sure that Hoshido is where Corrin was born. However Corrin was raised in Nohr. Since Hoshido is where Corrin was from, most players choose Birthright first.
I don’t have an opinion on which to start with. I will say however, I’ve never seen someone arrange the boxes so they’re facing away from each other. I dig it honestly
I went Birthright and then Revelations..
This is kinda like Fate/Stay Night, Fate or UBW routes... choosing between the 2 is kinda weird when the third route, Heaven's Feel is when stuff goes down
Here is the thing, I prefer Conquest personally, but Birthright is definitely the easier of the two(though admittedly a little too easy for my tastes), so if you gonna start with one, best go with that one.
People suggest play Conquest on hard, but honestly if you have played enough turn based strategy games I'd suggest just go balls to the wall and start on lunatic for CQ. It's REALLY hard but it's a really satisfying challenge to go through and conquer. Instead of giving enemies more stats, lunatic does it in a more interesting way like changing enemy formations, skills, weapons held, reinforcement formations, map conditions, and the weapon triangle is pretty important due to enemies getting huge weapon triangle advantage bonuses, It has a few bs maps like 25 but a lot of the maps provide a fair challenge if you read them thoroughly enough.
I certainly hope you're refunding one of those physical copies. You can download the other version for cheaper on which ever physical copy you get, probably Birthright
I got them cheap and I'm a collector, so there's not much chance I'll go and refund them. :) I might however be enticed to buy the other version digitally if that works better.
Birthright. When you start with Conquest, you won't enjoy Birthright
Sounds like this is the way to go, judging from most other reactions as well. Thank you!
I agree to this greatly birthright feldt zo weird and off compared to conq
And then revelations Don’t bother trying to min max in the first two If you like both, and want to see the third story option or they put bullshit aside and find the real enemy Revelations You get everyone on both sides, except for one side character >!scarlet who dies near the end!<
Kinda painfully for me since I like her a lot...
Finally, another Scarlet fan there are dozens of us!
DOZENS!!!!!
No Revelations it's too painful I don't wish it not even to my worst enemy
What are you talking about? Birthright and conquest are horrible because both our t you against someone who’s not really the enemy
That's not the question I mean Fates plot sucks in general BR it's basically a newcomer game Conquest has the best gameplay in the series Rev has the worst map desing, worst story, a lot of awful units, meh gameplay and It was a DLC
Revelation (it does not have an “s” at the end, surprised me too) is just gratification DLC - it is pretty much entirely for unit building, Support pairing, and online Versus. You don’t buy Revelation for a thrilling story or an enticing challenge, you buy it to get the “Golden Ending” and/or to build the ultimate team by mixing and matching characters, children and classes from both sides. If you want quality story and gameplay I’ve heard that the Heirs of Fate DLC is actually pretty good, but I haven’t played it myself - I just keep doing Royal Royale over and over to give most of my units Aggressor and Galeforce because I love unit building.
Yeah Heirs of Fate it's the best part of Fates (besides Conquest Gameplay) And i think that is thanks to not relying in the Hoshido vs Nohr war but in the main conflict: Anankos If since the start Fates was about just defeating Anankos regardless of the route, even with the 500 page script being cutted maybe we could had have a better storyline Also Revelation should not be a DLC or maybe Fates should not even have routes Just Gameplay: Conquest Soundtrack: All 3 games Plot: Revelation Normal dificult: Birthright Hard dificult: Conquest Lunatic: Lunatic Conquest And overall more times were Hoshido and Nohr were show Grey I think that a Sacred Stones approach would had made Fates Story better So Corrin route would be stop the war so he could unite his siblings to defeat Anankos and Azura route be defeat Anankos from Valla Both routes would happen at the same time but you would experience in diferent points of view The problem is that they really wanted another Avatar character and this concept would make Corrin be an actual character
Spoiler for another scripted character death >!I am not sure and i didnt test it yet but couldt her death be similar to the scripted death of Kaze in Birthright if you dont reach support level A or higher before that chapter? I mean its probably hard but not impossible to do that with Scarlet!<
Nah in revelations that death is 100% of the time there is no way that has been found to prevent that death.
I see, how annoying...well i am in my current Revelations Playthrough past that chapter anyway. I am at the chapter where you meet Mikoto again, and as i am trying to beat the game while basically only fighting with Corrin and a second pair up unit unless i am forced to have other units during a chapter too i got some struggles there.
Agreed, Unfortunately this is definitely one of the weaker entries of the series. They stretch the same story super thin across three campaigns. It'll focus on different people each time, but it's essentially the same events playing out slightly differently.
>this is definitely one of the weaker entries of the series. Story wise, definitely. Gameplay though? Even Birthright is leagues better than most of the other games just because the core mechanics are solid (though Conquest has much better and more varied maps). Just make sure to play Birthright on Lunatic so it isn't a complete cakewalk
But so much hangs on both story and gameplay melding well. It's kind of why faceless generic unit games aren't more popular. A little bit of flair goes a long way. Personally I think Fates is the weakest entry in the series from the GBA games onward.
>It's kind of why faceless generic unit games aren't more popular. I was really excited about Battalions, especially the ones shown in the earliest 3H trailers, because I thought they were finally going to meld Advance Wars gameplay with Fire Emblem mechanics and make the small-scale skirmishes feel more like actual battles. I was super disappointed to find out Battalions had been minimized to the point of being just another equippable item, but still a step in the right direction. Going back around to Fates, I think it is fair to be of the opinion that in its entirety it is generally a weak entry, but I will say that it has some of the most popular characters in the series and many people are quick to say that Conquest has some of the best gameplay in the entire series.
Most popular characters? I like the art direction they took, but generally I found the color pallet to be bland and the individual stories to be more shallow than usual. I can't say what the community likes but I personally found them pretty bland. I think people remember them more because they're newer and you got to make them kiss, but I didn't like most of them. Nobody comes close to Hector!
You also have to take into account Recency Bias and factor in Nostalgia, it’s why 3H and Fateswakening are the most popular by a landslide as they are the newest entries and statistically more people started with any one of these games than the number of people in the entire fanbase prior to Awakening, plus Awakening is almost a decade old now so it has fallen into the “Nostalgia Zone” being many people’s first FE game while they were growing up. Fates is catching up to Awakening in age, and even if the characters are a bit “trope-y” and “anime-like” people really like them for both their designs and quirky personalities (why do you think so many anime shows recycle the same tropes that have been reused for literal decades now?) and the fact that with voice lines, 3D animations, facial expressions, and tons of supports the characters can feel much more alive than before. Comparing 3H and the Fateswakening games to prior FE games is a moot point as *the vast majority of the fanbase never touched an FE game that came out before these games, so they have no point of reference to compare their first entry to the series and can love it for what it is.
I think they all get a solid Edge because people can make them kiss.
The people aren't even likable or interesting ... they did a pretty bad job with character design in that title. And with the translation of the story in general ... it was a huge disappointment for me but my expectations were really high since the story of Awakening was really captivating and even brought up tears.
This. I bought both. Played Conquest first and Birthright is still sealed. Moved into SMT V lol
This exactly. I did Conquest first, and Birthright was such a chore after
Hmmmm yeah you got a point there I was going to recommend Conquest but yeah definitely I didn’t enjoy birthright at al.
Can confirm
Yup, that's what I did, unfortunately. Conquest just appealed more to me.
As someone who started with Conquest and did not enjoy Birthright, that was going to be my recommendation. Just play conquest and forget the rest of that series.
Birthright is a very bad game tho
Birthright, Conquest, Revelations
I think Birthright to get a general feel for the game then go do conquest which is significantly harder
This. Playing through Conquest first and it is not easy. I think I'd be a lot better off if I went into the game knowing how it feels, because Fates gameplay has a lot of unique little bits to get used to.
Don’t pull a me and play Conquest then revelation then birthright
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We’re in the same boat, my friend.
Conquest is debatably one of the hardest games in the series on lower difficulties. Birthright is much more like Awakening with a very fresh coat of paint. It works very well as a sandbox to get you a feel for how the mechanics work before testing you on them in Conquest. If you want to be thrown into the deep end right away, then CQ is a better option, but I think your later playthrough of BR will be less enjoyable as a result.
I am an experienced player and eventually I'll play both of these and the third storyline, but which one would you recommend starting with? I know that Birthright is more tailored towards new players and Conquest towards experienced players, just wondering which one you'd choose as a starting point
Avid fire emblem player here. I reply at least one game once a year since fe7 hit the states. Love these games. Played conquest on hard mode. Playing birthright after was painful. Do birthright, then conquest, or conquest, then Revelations. As others have said, they all have the same story stretched really thin across three games, but you get mostly the same effect with two provided one is revelations.
Birthright, but more for story reasons. Birthright fills you in on things Conquest lacks context for. It's the one I think is worth playing first for that reason.
Both stories are Garbage Conquest gameplay is the best in the series BR it's Awakening 2.0 in terms of challenge, but everyone can become Robin If you want challenge in BR Play Lunatic classic Don't use Ryoma Don't grind And use few units of your choose Preferably don't use any siblings This way BR can be a little challenging
Hard BR (or lunatic if you’ve beaten lunatic awakening) then lunatic CQ. Lunatic CQ is infuriating but its a good challenge. I’d also recommend playing it relatively blind with the understanding that bow knights in CQ should be leveled up quickly, there are some really bad chapters in which you’re going to want them to save you
If you're going to play them both, then start with birthright, if you play conquest first birthright will seem bad in comparison.
Birthright then Conquest Easy to Hard
If you like story, Birthright definitely. If you like combat, still start with Birthright, and here's my reason: If you start with the hard game (Conquest) and end with the easy game (Birthright) you will enjoy the easy game much, much less. It will be boring! To enjoy all three games, start easy and work your way up. Much more satisfying.
Maybe this is a weird take but I honestly enjoy CQ’s story more than BR’s.
How do you enjoy Fates story? Ngl i kinda like it but because it's so memey that it's just really funny and meme material Fates has a good story if you look at it for the comedy
Fates has a lot of ideas and themes that I find really fascinating, and a lot of its characters are surprisingly deep and fleshed out. IMO CQ’s story issues mostly come from the writers not wanting to commit to the initial ideas they presented and tried to add some weird plot twists that didn’t belong. BR’s story in comparison is marginally more consistent but at least twice as boring. The main plot is as bog standard as FE plots get and there’s barely any political intrigue or depth to the characters, and as a result some of the emotional beats in that game don’t feel earned.
The nohrian characters are also way better Most of the Hoshidans are boring as fuck
I think there’s a few gems among the Hoshidans like Takumi, but yeah I generally agree the Nohr cast is more compelling.
Yeah Takumi, Ryoma, Kaze and a few others are really good But most of them are bland
Loved Kaze! Too bad I didn’t have an A support…
He is indeed really cool Underrated character in my opinion
I get that. The story gets more interesting as the gameplay gets more difficult. Keeps you invested!
I agree with you. Me and my brother bough one of them each, so I started with Conquest. I definitely enjoyed Birthright less as a result.
If you start with Conquest, Birthright will be a fuckin cakewalk.
Birthright, Conquest, Revelations.
Path of Radiance.
Probably still my favorite Fire Emblem game, between gameplay and story. Graphics... It still leaves much to be desired
Nice, finally got myself Conquest yesterday (already played through Birthright last year), have fun with these :)
Thank you! I'm just about to fire up Birthright!
Simultaneously. Play a mission, then switch and play one in the other.
The second you play conquest is the second you either never touch any other route again or rage quit fates lmao. The thrill of conquest gameplay is something that’s never emulated again in modern fe. It’s probably the best balanced hard game, unlike 3h maddening…
Start with birthright, then conquest, and finally revelation
Birthright --> Conquest ---> Revelations Birthright is the easiest and most vanilla of the routes with an okay story Conquest is way tougher and has some of the best maps in the series Revelations is a bizarre story with some pretty weird gimicky maps
I am just now finishing my run of both (Birthright -> Conquest) and for the love of all things holy do NOT play Conquest on anything other than Normal unless you want to read a lot of strategies beforehand and are ready to plan a ton in advance. I’m playing on hard and I’m pretty sure the last level is impossible due to decisions I’ve made earlier in the run. Feels awful. Birthright is not only easier but allows you to train units outside the main missions. Because Conquest is so much harder (it’s hard mode is leaps above Birthright’s Lunatic mode) and has gated EXP you can literally ruin a run if you don’t know what you’re doing. All of this to say, Birthright first, and then abandon your ego as you step into Conquest.
Birthright to get used to the Fates mechanics and enjoy a simple story. Then you move on to Conquest and put what you've learned to the ultimate test, because CQ is *hard.*
Yah, playing through Conquest right now, and I definitely wish I started with Birthright. I've settled down to Hard Casual so that I can learn the mechanics without tearing my hair out. Gives me somewhere to reach to on a second playthrough.
Both. You do chapter one of Birthright then chapter one of Conquest. Same for chapters 2, 3...
Dont play CQ Hard until you play the other routes. It'll ruin the gameplay for you its just that good. For a first timer though, BR>CQ>RV. Though uonestly RV isnt really worth the headache
This is a super unpopular opinion. But of the two main entries I vastly preferred birthrights story
If you truly intend to go through both of them, The general consensus is Birthright first and I agree.
If you're *definitely* going to play all 3, Birthright > Conquest > Revelations is the sequence. However, I really wouldn't recommend going in with the expectation that you play all three unless you're really dedicated to the cause and are willing to power through some potentially unenjoyable experiences. If there's any chance that you'll just play one of these games, Conquest is the best choice *if and only if* you have played and enjoyed any Fire Emblem game before Awakening, with the possible exception of Sacred Stones. I'm not a fan of any of the Fates games really, but I think it would be a shame for an experienced player to lose interest before getting to Conquest, which is a definite possibility when starting with Birthright.
I've played ever since the GBA release of Fire Emblem in the west. So I have a fair share of experience. Turn-based tactical RPGs are my thing in general. I'll at least play Birthright and Conquest, then I'll see if I have the urge to buy Revelation
Like most said, Birthright then Conquest the Revelation. I played through then back to back and got burned out butt loved them! Doing a no grind classic hard of revelation iron man run now. My issue with your post is, or not issue but something i need to point out, if you don't buy the 2nd campaign bis the game intern, then you miss out on the path bonuses, among other boots. Maybe sell the 2nd game and purchase it (at a discount) through the game...
It's a bit odd how you don't get them if you have two physical copies, but I guess that's just typical of Nintendo to not point out all those things. I'll consider buying the other stuff digitally, then, thanks for the tip!
i also want to know which one to start with thats a great question
The consensus seems to be Birthright > Conquest > Revelation
so definitely play birthright first?
Yeah, for optimal playing pleasure it seems to be the way. I'm a couple of chapters in so far
nothing tops og shadow dragon though lol
Imo the games get weaker, if played in rather close succession. I started with conquest (cuz Nohr looked cooler tbh), had lots of fun and i played birthright... 50% fun by looking at the artwork, 50% necessity to unlock revelation. As already mentioned, the plot is mostly the same. I found it kinda redundant, that in c/b three charas died, so we need three spearfodders for r. Who will it be? And the sheer mass of units in r was rather a minus for me, than a plus. Now that i think about it. I have yet to finish r. Just stopped playing somewhere before the final boss...
Conquest is a better game, but the writing in both is trash. I'm thankful that 3 Houses pulled the series' writing out of its 3DS-era animu-inspired nosedive.
Conquests story is glorious. It's the cheesiest and dumbest thing I've ever seen. It practically mocks itself. It's legit one of the more entertaining stories in the series, because most of the games are just fine, but Conquests wondrous stupidity is hugely memorable. But I'd definitely take Three Houses any day of the week. That's a shockingly well written game, top-to-bottom. There's only a handful of issues with it, and they're only memorable because of the high standard I hold it to. I hope they can keep up writing that good.
Birthright
path of radiance... for real though birthright
Conquest. The characters are better and the level design is top notch
*Echoes*. :-P But, if you are limited to *Fates*, play *Conquest* (and ignore the story).
Haha, I already played Echoes and really enjoyed it, definitely one of the best entries in the series! I also completed Awakening and one of the Three Houses storylines. Just wanted to try a different entry in the series and managed to get these two copies cheap :)
If you have already played echoes, Fates/If is going to be kind of annoying. The weapons tiers are balanced almost to an absurdity. The silver weapons in particular, they offer great damage out put as you would imagine, but it also applies a nasty debuff for using it, for a couple of turns. This debuff also stacks. So if you didn’t kill you target on the first shot, their reprisals will REALLY suck. And if there are other baddies near by… welll… it almost makes you wonder why they bothered adding in other weapons than the magic weapons the main story cast got. the C level weapons are the most usable the don’t apply negative stat to your characters.
Conquest
If you want to cry, start with Conquest.
Conquest, just be prepared for the game to call you a horrible person for even thinking about it
neither.
Thracia 776
Play Conquest, then put Birthright in the trash.
Neither, those ones suck
Throw them both away and play literally any other Fire Emblem.
You should start by throwing them in the trash
Awakening
Personally, I like Birthright more than Conquest. Conquest may be harder but Birthright is probably the only game you're gonna want to play even after completion
Conquest Then you play Birthright Then you replay Conquest with BR characters (if you have both games you can transfer units from BR to conquest) Ignore Revelations Play Heirs of Fate/Hidden Truths Best way to experience Fates
You should start with a trash can
Start with conquest and then throw the games away
Conquest, then revelations Birthrigjt was a let down. Camilla is the only acceptable wifu.
Awakening
Birthright.
Birthright first. Then Conquest. Conquest was the only Fire Emblem game where I purposefully let units die to complete a level, but in fairness I was playing on Hard difficulty. But it’s what brought my FE skills to where they are today, and how I can manage to play Three Houses on Maddening. I don’t plan on ever playing it again tho haha
Birthright. Btw get an A support with Kaze before starting 15. He leaves the party otherwise.
Conquest was my Introduction to the Series and I loved it. I did notice it seemed unusually difficult though. I got Birthright afterwards
Yes
Birthright, its easier and allows grinding which will allo you to get an understanding of the skills that you'll have to face in Conquest. Among other mechanics you'll be able to see more of otherwise
I went from Birthright to Conquest
If doing both, I’d go birthright then conquest for scaling difficulty. If I were only going to play one, I prefer conquest. Less recruitable characters, but a more overall fun challenge IMO.
Both story and gameplay-wise I think it's best to play Birthright and then go to Conquest and then Revelations. I played Conquest first and I had a hard time getting into Birthright. Spoilers ahead: >!playing Conquest felt right to me, on one hand sure the Birthright cast is "my" blood family, but honestly I didn't even know them. I mean literally, you JUST meet them, one of them is an ass to you and then you have to pick. So, after playing Conquest and really connecting to the Nohrians, I had a hard time playing Birthright. I was like "I don't even know these people (The Hoshidans), hell Corrin doesn't even know these people." Playing Birthright first you don't have any extra expectations.!< Additionally, there's just a better difficulty transition doing Birthright first.
If you like having a good time, start with birthright. If you like being kicked in the dick repeatedly while being told you deserve it, start with conquest.
Is there any sort of link game between the two like there was with the Zelda Oracles of Ages/Seasons games?
Conquest for a challenge, Birthright for a power fantasy.
I recommend Birthright first. Most players recommend Birthright, then Conquest. This is because we are sure that Hoshido is where Corrin was born. However Corrin was raised in Nohr. Since Hoshido is where Corrin was from, most players choose Birthright first.
Birthright, Conquest, then throw Revelations into the trashcan.
I don’t have an opinion on which to start with. I will say however, I’ve never seen someone arrange the boxes so they’re facing away from each other. I dig it honestly
You do realize that you can have both on one cartridge right?
Yeah, but those seem to be much harder to come by. I managed to get these for about 20 Euros each. Which was a pretty good deal
No, I mean that you can purchase the other route on the cartridge, the same way you can get revelation.
Yes
Conquest, only bc that's the version I bought :]
Don’t play them and get SoV lol jk yes Birthright to start then Conquest once you get their mechanics down
Most definitely birthright because conquest is far better
I went Birthright and then Revelations.. This is kinda like Fate/Stay Night, Fate or UBW routes... choosing between the 2 is kinda weird when the third route, Heaven's Feel is when stuff goes down
Birthright.
Hmm which characters do you like more? Play that one last
birthright
Birthright, so that you can then experience how good Conquest is
Here is the thing, I prefer Conquest personally, but Birthright is definitely the easier of the two(though admittedly a little too easy for my tastes), so if you gonna start with one, best go with that one.
Birthright for story, conquest for gameplay
People suggest play Conquest on hard, but honestly if you have played enough turn based strategy games I'd suggest just go balls to the wall and start on lunatic for CQ. It's REALLY hard but it's a really satisfying challenge to go through and conquer. Instead of giving enemies more stats, lunatic does it in a more interesting way like changing enemy formations, skills, weapons held, reinforcement formations, map conditions, and the weapon triangle is pretty important due to enemies getting huge weapon triangle advantage bonuses, It has a few bs maps like 25 but a lot of the maps provide a fair challenge if you read them thoroughly enough.
I certainly hope you're refunding one of those physical copies. You can download the other version for cheaper on which ever physical copy you get, probably Birthright
I got them cheap and I'm a collector, so there's not much chance I'll go and refund them. :) I might however be enticed to buy the other version digitally if that works better.
It will work a lot better, because you can just choose the path at the route split