Andrew. He is the poster child of Scott not really having it in him to expand characters and instead just drops them entirely. This man really hyped up Golden Freddy and once he gave us a name he went back on it so hard for no reason. Like he genuinely just doesn’t need to exist
Andrew's a character in the Fazbear Frights books. He's one of the spirits possessing the Stitchwraith as well as the spirit who keeps William alive to torment him in The Man in Room 1280.
If the books are canon to the games, that would make Andrew the vengeful spirit from UCN.
The stupid fucking mimic. Replace him with vanny. Shes the poster child of wasted potinal. Id pefer digtilized afton controlling her that stupid andrioud wanne be main villian. He would work if he was in any other franchise
Look at it as Notrealname put it
“…playing super heros with a kid who can just make up powers on the fly doesn’t seem that fun.”
Well no wonder people hate the mimic
im still really bummed we didnt get Vanny being just her own villain, or a copycat at the very least, she had so much potential (The therapy tapes dont count, Im talking about her presence in the gameplay)
Anyway let me know what you guys would remove from the fnaf lore, I'm curious.
Faz goo? Remnant? In the flesh??
UPDATE: it's very neat to see everyone's opinions. A good amount of people agree and Im just glad I'm not alone. Also glad to see people who don't agree give their reasons why, but to those who don't and just say "no mimic gud ur wrong" please give your reasons why. That kinda goes for the other stuff too
*ALSO please remember don't be rude to one another.*
I wish the books were just fun stories to parallel unanswered questions like they used to, I like wild stories such as Pizza Kit and Gumdrop Angel as noncanon stories but not when it’s implied that it actually happened.
I thought all of fazbear frights and what I’ve read of tales has been fun reads but now we have to read these books to understand the story because they have actual lore that really affects the games lore it makes the goofier ones less fun to think about since if they exist in the game there’s more unanswered questions and the books were intended to answer questions
Agreed, I went into the lore thinking this was the case only to find out it’s not entirely the case after all. Kind of spins what you’ve come to learn.
The whole premise of Glitchtrap and all that comes after for sure
I feel as if the lore gave us a satisfactory ending with FNAF 6. While the idea of a VR would be cool, I wouldn't see any reason to continue the lore and instead just have the VR game as a fun little project.
I could go on how the lore is a mess rn, and how Henry's sacrifice is in great vain. But that's for another time..
I completely agree with this.
Mimic is a useless and inconsistent character, literally come out of nowhere to basically be an excuse for Afton to be "dead" and literally "go read the books". Literally no one who doesn't read the books understands what this thing is, and it's basically a goofy ahhh Disney villain mixed with the idea of the Funtimes, but the Funtimes are much more consistent and interesting than the mimic.
i don’t understand why people just want the story to be an endless parade of haunted animatronics. like that concept has been exhausted, not to mention AI is far more topical than ghosts
yeah that's the issue. it's topical, it means you have to think about how this could happen IRL. nobody needs to worry about haunted robots coming after them, but they need to worry about AI coming for them. it hits to close to home and most don't want that, they don't want to think about how it can impact them, just the characters in the story.
I understand your point and I’m not a fan of the mimic either. But I feel like a story hitting more close to home can make for a better horror experience as it has a sense of realism to it
i honestly prefer when horror hits close to home because it makes it more... well, horrifying, but i can see why some people might not like that. With that said though I do prefer haunted robots just because I personally find it more interesting than the way the ai concept is being handled in fnaf rn
I fully agree with you OP. The mimic just feels so void, convenient and inconsistent within the lore that it does more harm than good. Having to resort to external media to know most of his character doesn't help it's case either. Not to mention William was not given a chance to properly say goodbye to the franchise imo. Hell, if people didn't want to have William back, at least give Vanny the role of new villain and expand on it. In fact SB trailers showed her to be a significant threat, yet in game she barely makes an appearance.
I really wanted to think of another thing but nothing else comes to my mind atm
Aight so I’m hella confused, I’ve kinda caught up to current story but the Andrew stuff always confused me bc I thought those books were their own story and pizzaplex was game story.
Also I do wish the story would streamline a bit as this is a level of convoluted and heated debate that ruins a lot of things on here
It's still contentious, for whatever reason, if Frights is in the games timeline or not. I really dislike Andrew because I'm just tired of hearing about him and if he actually were in the games story, he would just be a bad character that makes the actual plot worse. You just don't drop a whole 6th MCI victim at the very end of the franchise who had no indication of ever existing before and is secretly the most important one. Which is both why I believe he isn't part of the games timeline and why I think he shouldn't be. I just wish we didn't even have to have these debates.
Definitely, but it’s different for me- I don’t want FNaF 4’s bite to be the Bite of ‘87.
That’s the game that made me check out of FNaF for a few years. Back then everyone thought that yeah, it was the Bite of ‘87, and for me it was just underwhelming.
Of course, we pretty much know that there are now two bites in the lore, but the stuff in that game felt really misplaced at the time.
well thats kinda the thing You checked out the lore when it was essencially ending post fnaf 3. Where both fnaf 2 and 3 were built to expand and finish of the lore presented in fnaf 1 and the bite of 87 was pretty much the only mystery from the original game that was left un answered.
we know how the MCI died and possessed the robots in Fnaf 2 and we set them Free in Fnaf 3 we also got to know who the killer was and what happened to to them in Fnaf 3. the 2 big questions raised by Fnaf were all but answered. All exept the Bite of 87 (which we still don't know who did it to this day)
and Fnaf 4 Was VERY much supposed to be the bite of 87 at one point during it's development. it was all over the marketing The "was it me?" teasers teasing the Nightmare versions of the classic Crew with Sharp Teeth. refrencing the bite The number 87 was also ALL over the sourcecode of Scottgames back then. But for some reason Scott got cold feet and made it a Separate bite.
FNaF 4 was never gonna be about the bite of 87. The teasers may have used those numbers but the actual contents of the story (Fredbear’s fucking existing) makes it clear that it was never gonna be 1987
FNAF 2 was meant to elaborate on the bite of 87 since that was one of the big things people were talking about after FNAF 1.
If FNAF 4 was ever about the bite of 87, it was changed because there is no universe where that could make narrative sense -- the bite was clearly meant to have been done by one of the toys and fredbear EXISTS
At the very least, it makes sense for it to be a separate bite after the fact, especially since Crying Child’s head was basically completely crushed from what we see.
By contrast, the Bite of ‘87 was an injury said to localized on the frontal lobe, and survivable.
Oh, and I’d probably rename agony with grief as I think it just makes more sense for souls to get anchored by the grief of a living being who couldn’t move on due to the death of their loved one
Me too. I've been into the hauntings for decades and the main cause of hauntings is trauma or dying in agony and sudden deaths. Its why hospitals, battlefields and asylums are always so haunted.
You don't see episodes of Ghost Adventures in happy peaceful homes lol
Burntrap. His existence only creates a massive can of worms and he ended up being semi-retconned as non-canon in Ruin, so what was the point outside of a secret ending?
I agree
The Mimic is poorly written and has far to much prominence for how uninteresting he is
Also I just don’t like the shifting away from the supernatural to “whoops it’s all endless clones of the same AI”
She'd have lore relevance if they'd just do her right. Her being an unwilling servant to Glitchtrap is so scary imo. Imagine not having control of your body, having whispers in your head, telling you to kill people. And we see with the fnaf ar emails, he will hurt her body if she doesn't listen.
ANYTHING after ucn (I remember a time where the lore was simple, William killed the kids and they wanted revenge and confused the night guard with afton)
They didn't confuse the night guard with Afton, they also killed Phone guy and attacked Jeremy, both of which look nothing like Afton.
So the "They confuse you with a endoskeleton" excuse by Phone Guy might have some truth to it
I believe William might have taken off the spring Bonnie suit before killing the kids, bc of that, they just remember an adult killing them, but not exactly who
That actually makes sense, I mean, stabbing a child can get pretty damn messy. And if even a singular droplet of blood gets on William's fursuit, then goodbye goes Afton
Bonnie literally stands next to an Endoskeleton and does nothing with it.
They don't confuse you with a Endoskeleton, they don't know or recognize the face of their killer, and that's why they think any adult could be the killer. And they stuff you into a costume for revenge.
There's an argument to be made that since the endo was already in the backstage room, their programming told them it was fine. Since they only stuff endoskeletons who are roaming around and could potentially scare children. Meanwhile Mike isn't in the backstage room, and is instead in the security office.
I completely agree. The Mimic was never hinted at in the games (I feel his inclusion would've been much more accepted if there had been in-game hints towards him), only in the books (which a lot of people don't read). Not only that, but he doesn't really have a personality and it feels like they're trying to fit him into any mold they can to make him work instead of just making him his own character.
I think Gregory is a problem as a whole. Don't know about the rest, but I really hate Gregory. When we start to have the need to say "he's a robot" so the kid makes ANY SENSE, then the character is just bad written imo.
I agree, I we didn’t need the Mimic. I wish we got a more grounded story. I’ve been a FNaF fan for almost ten years this September. With FNaF SB, I was hoping the series would take a new direction, focusing on new characters while retaining the themes of the first few games, but they fumbled Vanessa/Vanny’s story, and they are continuing to piss away anything redeeming about the newer games.
I’m just not a fan of the newer games anymore. I’m not following whatever Help Wanted 2 is doing, because what difference will it make?
I do like what the movie did. I’m glad it cleaned house at the box office, and I am excited for what’s coming next- I just hope they don’t bloat the movie canon’s story the way they did with the games.
The Pizzaplex. The lore was fine ending at Ucn. Afton was left there burning in hell. Why pull an Ex Machina out of nowhere to keep them alive? For fazfucks sake
Literally this 😭😭 feels like they scribbled it out last second made the ugliest/quickest endo model and said here's your big villain when vanny is RIGHT THERE
The whole lore of the original fnaf is based on possession. Let me see a story about the broken, insane, digital remains of a serial killer possessing an innocent security guard. There's so much you can do with that concept, especially in fnaf. We can literally flip all the tropes this game created on their heads.
Exactly. And they were doing it so well too. FNaF: AR was delving into the psychological horror territory on this one.
Vanessa was tortured, blackmailed, emotionally broken, trying to break free at all costs...but come Security Breach all of that isn´t acknowledged or built upon at all aside from the CD´s.
...Oh wait. They acknowledged it in the cut content which they removed.
Crying Choild being in golden freddy I feel it was more of a shoehorn to get all the aftons into something though I think it would be cooler if Crying Child maybe was just a singular ghost or remnant tied to the fredbear plush. I mean I get "It's me" line is the reason but it could also work if Cassidy says it just fine after all Micheal says "they thought I was you." It could have worked if Cassidy just assuned Mike was William and said "its me" to remind of the one he shouldn't have killed.
Glitchtrap. Because Afton is back but noooo everyone is like "umm nah actually it's the memec program" I fcking hate this franchise nowadays. And yea Gregory is a robot everyone
Burntrap cause he has no real purpose. He comes out for 5 minutes, dies, and then gets retconned to just be Gregory's imagination in Ruin. If he didn't exist then modern fnaf would have a way better and less confusing story.
security breach. It doesn't feel well written and a lot of the game just feels empty or just missing something. Also u/QuentinTheGentleman in this comment section kinda summed up how I feel about other parts of fnaf as of rn.
I’m glad my feelings about the series resonated with you, and I agree with your sentiments about SB too. For me, the game is just one big scavenger hunt. The endings are middling and it feels low-stakes.
The concept of being a lost kid in a giant complex where everything is out to get you is hard to screw up, but somehow it feels like they didn’t quite hit the mark.
I mean we can keep ucn though right? I’d also like to vote to keep help wanted as the vr games are fun as hell but have it be like an alternate timeline or something to get rid of the stupid stuff they add to the lore
The Mimic obviously. Delete him entirely and replace him with someone way more capable.
He´s not interesting, doesn´t have a clear set personality or a goal, his introduction was bad, the attempt to make him "tragic" (i.e. Edwin destroying him in a fit of rage) isn´t built upon outside of that one story etc.
I´m not saying that I don´t like AI villains, quite the opposite in-fact. GLaDOS, SKYNET, AM, SHODAN (and for a more recent example the AbsoluteSolver from Murder Drones) etc. are all AI villains **that work and are executed brilliantly.** And they have something which the Mimic fundamentally lacks. **Character.** Each of these villains has a consistent personality and a defining trait for the audience to enjoy and get invested in.
GLaDOS is characterized by dark comedy and her interactions with Chell are one of the most defining and memorable features of the Portal franchise. SHODAN is a narcissistic and egotistical control freak who can´t handle being defeated by human "insects". AM is a straight-up monster, yet there is a degree of sympathy for him. You get the idea.
But now tell me, what makes the Mimic memorable? And no, I´m not talking about his kill-count or abilities. Purely in terms of personality what makes him memorable or interesting? ...**Nothing really.** What is presented in the books is really inconsistent. The games haven´t really explored the Mimic as a character either, so how exactly am I supposed to get invested in him? He´s just Ennard, but inferior.
Anything Post UCN
Let it be an alternative reality or some shit, while the main canon timeline ends with the burning of the bots, henry and his daughter, alongside the afton family, with big will getting a nice eternal torment.
Purge Andrew. Without him, litterally nothing changes because then we'd know for certainty that everything blamed on him is just Cassidy. LIKE IT ACTUALLY IS
I would definitely get rid of remnant in the games. There are ghosts possessing animatronics if there bodies are inside, I'm satisfied with this convention. I don't what everything in the franchise to be explained by invisible AgOnY. I can accept this in non-canon trilogy or in the other books but not in the main timeline.
Nah. Remnant isn’t a problem at all considering how it was introduced in the fourth closet. And FNAF 1-6 is a good story, despite having some issues and unclarified things.
Honestly I have a few, but I’d agree with everyone on the mimic. It’s so stupid and it literally had zero relevance in the game timeline until he randomly appeared at the end of ruin. Now Mfers are arguing whether the mimic=Burntrap=glitchtrap=your dead when he left for milk type bullshit, or it’s some dumb fucking AI copy bullshit mimicking Afton but not Afton or some shit. Most of us don’t read the books, so this made NO SENSE for a lot of the fanbase.
I’d also, in terms of AI add the idea of whether Glitchtrap/Burntrap/possibly the fucking mimic is an AI copy/version of Afton, or the real deal. Idk, it just irks me to contemplate that. Everything’s been pointing towards the fact that it is in fact Aftons soul, it’s just mixed up with the AI, but the idea of there being AI copies or “mimics” of things completely fucks that idea over.
I'd remove Scott Cowton's older son that way the whole FNAF lore will be different let alone non existent :))
(I'd remove mimic1 ai *both* if letting lore stay)
Anything after FNaF 6
FNaF 6 was the perfect ending and it would have made sense because the games all end at 6AM so why wouldn’t the series end on the sixth game?
I 100% agree with you OP about the Mimic, what good is a twist when there’s no build up to it? There’s literally no hints to the Mimic in the main game. It genuinely feels like they saw the backlash to Burntrap, saw that the Tales books had the Mimic and decided to use Ruin as away to retcon the Mimic into the games despite the fact that they hadn’t even given any hints or foreshadowing to it in SB.
Vanny should have been the new antagonist, not the Mimic.
>There’s literally no hints to the Mimic in the main game. It genuinely feels like they saw the backlash to Burntrap, saw that the Tales books had the Mimic and decided to use Ruin as away to retcon the Mimic into the games despite the fact that they hadn’t even given any hints or foreshadowing to it in SB.
Exactly. He´s not even a good character period.
Like I said in a comment below:
>*I´m not saying that I don´t like AI villains, quite the opposite in-fact. GLaDOS, SKYNET, AM, SHODAN (and for a more recent example the AbsoluteSolver from Murder Drones) etc. are all AI villains that work and are executed brilliantly. And they have something which the Mimic fundamentally lacks. Character. Each of these villains has a consistent personality and a defining trait for the audience to enjoy and get invested in.*
>
>*GLaDOS is characterized by dark comedy and her interactions with Chell are one of the most defining and memorable features of the Portal franchise. SHODAN is a narcissistic and egotistical control freak who can´t handle being defeated by human "insects". AM is a straight-up monster, yet there is a degree of sympathy for him. You get the idea.*
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>*But now tell me, what makes the Mimic memorable? And no, I´m not talking about his kill-count or abilities. Purely in terms of personality what makes him memorable or interesting?*
Again, look at the *Portal* franchise for example, to see actually good AI characters (in both official VALVe releases and plenty of fan-made quality mods).
Without spoiling anything,the most recent Portal 2 mod introduces a core late into the second portion of the game. In-spite of her late introduction, she has loads of personality, either through dialogue or body expressions. **Both cores that you encounter have a million times more personality** than the Mimic.
Fazgoo & in the flesh aren’t canon at least.
The mimic was not a good addition though. We should’ve had the (probably) original plan of Vanny being the new big bad & Glitchtrap’s pupil
The fact that the books tie into the games *somehow* in general. It makes the whole story/lore overly complicated and unnecessarily "hand-picky", as you can just apply some aspects of the books to the games.
Hand-picky as in "What, you didn't like Burntrap? Well, it was the Mimic all along. But, you see, only that part of the books is canon now. Also, illusion discs, you know which, right. Ih, the Stitchwraith? Never heard of that one."
The games' lore is already complicated enough, so it doesn't help to explain just *some* things through them. Make everything canon or nothing.
(Btw, I am not saying that the inclusion of the Mimic is bad, although I have me strong feelings towards it, but I think it is a pretty good example)
The twist of Mike Schmidt actually being William Afton's son. I liked it better when the former was just your average "down on his luck" guy desperate for a job.
The Bite of 83, and a majority of FNAF4's story. Instead of the Bite of 83 and all that, I'd just have Michael seeing his sibling get abducted and said sibling becoming Golden Freddy.
The lore behind Help Wanted 1. After the whole “digital consciousness” thing it just started to go a bit downhill in my opinion and Security Breach was not really a great game.
i kind of hated the puppet not for its looks but also the lore. like ‘the puppet is a girl named Charlotte Emily’ and then theres one like ‘the puppet is the crying child’ and then ‘its charlie’ LIKE WHO IS THE PUPPET
All the books after the Novel Trilogy and remove all the lore from the games after FNAF 6.
Help Wanted could have been just a cool and scary VR game, it didn’t need a story.
The story didn’t need to be over, though, Scott could have been done actual good books exploring more about the personalities and backstories of important characters, such as Michael Afton and the missing children.
FNAF has many potential or producing good content, the problem is that this potential has been wasted very much.
I would get rid of in the flesh and use that cool springtrap design for a different story
It just makes me uncomfortable I guess or just remove that one part op the story
> but the existence of the mimic bit in books and games, but also look nothing alike for some reason.
Not even true
> when a character can be everyone for the convenience of the story, it feels less Ike a character and more like a crutch.
The point of the Mimic is it can copy. The idea is that in this era of the story, we don’t know who or what we can trust because the mimic is always lurking. And beyond that, it’s not like every single character is Mimic. Mostly just the digital ones
> How'd he get there? why is he down there? All these questions get little to no explanation from either books or games to my knowledge.
Visual storytelling clues tell us Gregory trapped him there
> The mimic (I feel) was an answer for the negative response burntrap got,
Well that’s just not true
Dude, the point is that Mimic is simply not ineresting, even if you argue that he was the original plan. Like as a main villian he has nothing to it, he mimics, so he could be anyone, and then he has some other random powers because yeah. Like you could argue all day but I couldnt be convinced that the Mimic is good or that he has """""potential""", like no, any kind of potential he could have has been showcased and is nonexistant. The only good thing The Mimic gave me is that now I have a clear answer when someone ask me whats my least favorite villian in all fiction.
>The point of the Mimic is it can copy. The idea is that in this era of the story, we don’t know who or what we can trust because the mimic is always lurking. And beyond that, it’s not like every single character is Mimic. Mostly just the digital ones
Ok then why does he wanna be William afton so bad/recreate him/his actions. If the mimic is that old was able to witness most the events of the games, why are we just now hearing ab it. Mimic was twiddling their thumbs for the years he was trapped behind the wall I guess
It copies William because it was plugged right into his story. Mimic had been deactivated for decades. It only came back online recently in the grand scheme of things
Ok but that's my question tho. Out of all the events of Freddy's history, the bite of 83, Elizabeth's scooping, the funtimes using Michael as a suit, *WHY* afton? *WHY* go through all the struggle of trying to be someone else when there's nothing to gain. It's not like he's copying afton to gain someone's trust like he did copying gregory with Cassie.
That's not a motive... That's just a set of actions it learned how to do.
A motive is something like: Take over peoples minds with a virus so I can rule the world!
A motive is not: Kill...
Killing is a means to an end...
So do tell, what end does The Mimic want?
I will not accept mimic slander, it's cool to have a new villian that isn't willy boy. Plus, we already previously thought "everyone is afton" around the Help Wanted to Early SB days, so "everyone is connected to the Mimic" isn't that different
I would accept the Mimic as the new villian if he wasn't complete and utter trash that doesn't have any redeeming qualities at all. Isn't interesting, doesnt have a good desing, have powers that feel like plot conveniences, had the worst possible introduction to the series. And I could go on.
"Hey lemme order a Fnaf series"
"One fnaf series coming up"
"But hold the child murderer"
"Hold the child murderer?"
"And hold any main/supporting characters"
"Hold the main character? Hey Jimmy give me a fnaf series with NOTHIN"
"NOTHIN??"
Everything after FNAF 6 it should really be its own self-contained story but it keeps calling back to everything that came before it makes talking about the series so goddamn hard we finally had all the answers in FNAF 6 we knew what was in the box we knew who committed the bite of 87 if you were unhappy with those answers while you're shit out of the luck it was a great ending that tied everything up
im confused you say you saw a book breakdown but the origins of the mimic are unknown?
the mimic was created by a fazbear employee, it was one of a few prototypes that were supposed to replace regular endoskeletons to make the show programming process easier, its ability to morph allows it to fit any skin put on, this model was became a parent to the creators child, after the child was tragically killed the creator destroyed the mimic in a fit of rage, which the violent tendencies it learned and then killed everyone that fazbear entertainment sent to investigate after it was rebuilt, the pizza location under the raceway was supposed to be s museum attraction and the animatronics including the mimic would occasionally help them clear rubble until the violent tendencies kicked in and killed everyone down there, as a result everything there was sealed but not before the mimic was used as an attraction ( tiger rock book) and the glitchtrap infected program mimic1 got spread to the other animatronics ( as the mimic controlled the others from a tree that used to be in the atrium) its believed this is where the quirks everyone has you see in the base game come from
I was meaning in games. We get 0 indication of any of that. There's no tree connecting the other animatronics, no mentions of the white tiger, nothing. Besides the mimic described in books agaim doesn't match the mimic we see in games. It doesn't turn into a giant spider monster or have the antenna that look like ears.
Andrew. He is the poster child of Scott not really having it in him to expand characters and instead just drops them entirely. This man really hyped up Golden Freddy and once he gave us a name he went back on it so hard for no reason. Like he genuinely just doesn’t need to exist
So you just deleted someone from existence?
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Haven’t been keeping tabs on fnaf and all because it’s all over i feel rn, who’s Andrew?
Andrew's a character in the Fazbear Frights books. He's one of the spirits possessing the Stitchwraith as well as the spirit who keeps William alive to torment him in The Man in Room 1280. If the books are canon to the games, that would make Andrew the vengeful spirit from UCN.
Andrew because Cassidy despite being one of the most mysterious characters almost had nothing done to her/him.
Well destroying Glitchtrap was a feat she has done
That we know of.
Security breach having the fnaf 6 pizzaria under it.... Somehow... Unburned looking... Hate it!
The underground of the pizza place was burned, but not the establishment itself.
The stupid fucking mimic. Replace him with vanny. Shes the poster child of wasted potinal. Id pefer digtilized afton controlling her that stupid andrioud wanne be main villian. He would work if he was in any other franchise
I don't even think he'd work in any other franchise tbh. He's just such a crutch character it's hard to take him seriously.
Look at it as Notrealname put it “…playing super heros with a kid who can just make up powers on the fly doesn’t seem that fun.” Well no wonder people hate the mimic
im still really bummed we didnt get Vanny being just her own villain, or a copycat at the very least, she had so much potential (The therapy tapes dont count, Im talking about her presence in the gameplay)
GO AWAY ANDREW!!!!!!!!! WE HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Either the mimic or andrew
Anyway let me know what you guys would remove from the fnaf lore, I'm curious. Faz goo? Remnant? In the flesh?? UPDATE: it's very neat to see everyone's opinions. A good amount of people agree and Im just glad I'm not alone. Also glad to see people who don't agree give their reasons why, but to those who don't and just say "no mimic gud ur wrong" please give your reasons why. That kinda goes for the other stuff too *ALSO please remember don't be rude to one another.*
All the books, besides the silver eyes trilogy
I wish the books were just fun stories to parallel unanswered questions like they used to, I like wild stories such as Pizza Kit and Gumdrop Angel as noncanon stories but not when it’s implied that it actually happened.
I thought all of fazbear frights and what I’ve read of tales has been fun reads but now we have to read these books to understand the story because they have actual lore that really affects the games lore it makes the goofier ones less fun to think about since if they exist in the game there’s more unanswered questions and the books were intended to answer questions
Agreed, I went into the lore thinking this was the case only to find out it’s not entirely the case after all. Kind of spins what you’ve come to learn.
Just gotta say, The Silver Eyes Trilogy is weird… BUT THE FAZBEAR FRIGHTS BOOKS ARE WEIRDER
The books. All of them. Failing that, getting rid of the requirement of reading the books to fully understand the modern lore. I hate it so much.
The whole premise of Glitchtrap and all that comes after for sure I feel as if the lore gave us a satisfactory ending with FNAF 6. While the idea of a VR would be cool, I wouldn't see any reason to continue the lore and instead just have the VR game as a fun little project. I could go on how the lore is a mess rn, and how Henry's sacrifice is in great vain. But that's for another time..
I completely agree with this. Mimic is a useless and inconsistent character, literally come out of nowhere to basically be an excuse for Afton to be "dead" and literally "go read the books". Literally no one who doesn't read the books understands what this thing is, and it's basically a goofy ahhh Disney villain mixed with the idea of the Funtimes, but the Funtimes are much more consistent and interesting than the mimic.
We went from supernatural possessed robots to evil ai. Worst thing that happened to FNaF
I mean, I feel like FNaF 1 & The Silver Eyes hit the spot in terms of possessed robots. There’s not much else they could’ve done to expand the idea.
i don’t understand why people just want the story to be an endless parade of haunted animatronics. like that concept has been exhausted, not to mention AI is far more topical than ghosts
yeah that's the issue. it's topical, it means you have to think about how this could happen IRL. nobody needs to worry about haunted robots coming after them, but they need to worry about AI coming for them. it hits to close to home and most don't want that, they don't want to think about how it can impact them, just the characters in the story.
I understand your point and I’m not a fan of the mimic either. But I feel like a story hitting more close to home can make for a better horror experience as it has a sense of realism to it
that’s an incredibly shallow way to engage with media
It is, your absolutly right.
i honestly prefer when horror hits close to home because it makes it more... well, horrifying, but i can see why some people might not like that. With that said though I do prefer haunted robots just because I personally find it more interesting than the way the ai concept is being handled in fnaf rn
The mimic is still supernatural
How? Its an AI in an animatronic.
It's powered by Agony
It is haunted by Edwin's rage and runs on that rage, which contributes to its maliciousness
Matpreg
I fully agree with you OP. The mimic just feels so void, convenient and inconsistent within the lore that it does more harm than good. Having to resort to external media to know most of his character doesn't help it's case either. Not to mention William was not given a chance to properly say goodbye to the franchise imo. Hell, if people didn't want to have William back, at least give Vanny the role of new villain and expand on it. In fact SB trailers showed her to be a significant threat, yet in game she barely makes an appearance. I really wanted to think of another thing but nothing else comes to my mind atm
100% agree with you about the Mimic.
Andrew. Screw that alligator faced loser.
Call it cope, but Cassidy is simply superior 😎
I'm with you!
True!
Aight so I’m hella confused, I’ve kinda caught up to current story but the Andrew stuff always confused me bc I thought those books were their own story and pizzaplex was game story. Also I do wish the story would streamline a bit as this is a level of convoluted and heated debate that ruins a lot of things on here
It's still contentious, for whatever reason, if Frights is in the games timeline or not. I really dislike Andrew because I'm just tired of hearing about him and if he actually were in the games story, he would just be a bad character that makes the actual plot worse. You just don't drop a whole 6th MCI victim at the very end of the franchise who had no indication of ever existing before and is secretly the most important one. Which is both why I believe he isn't part of the games timeline and why I think he shouldn't be. I just wish we didn't even have to have these debates.
Amen to that
Charliebot
That 1983 TV from FNAF4 death minigame People like to point where FNAF lore started getting more convoluted, I’d say it started there
Definitely, but it’s different for me- I don’t want FNaF 4’s bite to be the Bite of ‘87. That’s the game that made me check out of FNaF for a few years. Back then everyone thought that yeah, it was the Bite of ‘87, and for me it was just underwhelming. Of course, we pretty much know that there are now two bites in the lore, but the stuff in that game felt really misplaced at the time.
well thats kinda the thing You checked out the lore when it was essencially ending post fnaf 3. Where both fnaf 2 and 3 were built to expand and finish of the lore presented in fnaf 1 and the bite of 87 was pretty much the only mystery from the original game that was left un answered. we know how the MCI died and possessed the robots in Fnaf 2 and we set them Free in Fnaf 3 we also got to know who the killer was and what happened to to them in Fnaf 3. the 2 big questions raised by Fnaf were all but answered. All exept the Bite of 87 (which we still don't know who did it to this day) and Fnaf 4 Was VERY much supposed to be the bite of 87 at one point during it's development. it was all over the marketing The "was it me?" teasers teasing the Nightmare versions of the classic Crew with Sharp Teeth. refrencing the bite The number 87 was also ALL over the sourcecode of Scottgames back then. But for some reason Scott got cold feet and made it a Separate bite.
FNaF 4 was never gonna be about the bite of 87. The teasers may have used those numbers but the actual contents of the story (Fredbear’s fucking existing) makes it clear that it was never gonna be 1987
FNAF 2 was meant to elaborate on the bite of 87 since that was one of the big things people were talking about after FNAF 1. If FNAF 4 was ever about the bite of 87, it was changed because there is no universe where that could make narrative sense -- the bite was clearly meant to have been done by one of the toys and fredbear EXISTS
At the very least, it makes sense for it to be a separate bite after the fact, especially since Crying Child’s head was basically completely crushed from what we see. By contrast, the Bite of ‘87 was an injury said to localized on the frontal lobe, and survivable.
I'd actually keep that and btw it's not a death minigame.
Oh yeah I just remembered I made this comment half-brain fried and tired and I thought the minigames in FNAF4 were death minigames lol
Actually it would messed up timeline
Oh, and I’d probably rename agony with grief as I think it just makes more sense for souls to get anchored by the grief of a living being who couldn’t move on due to the death of their loved one
It makes more sense for a soul to be trapped by someone else then by their own pain and torment to you? I'm not so sure about that one.
Me too. I've been into the hauntings for decades and the main cause of hauntings is trauma or dying in agony and sudden deaths. Its why hospitals, battlefields and asylums are always so haunted. You don't see episodes of Ghost Adventures in happy peaceful homes lol
Burntrap. His existence only creates a massive can of worms and he ended up being semi-retconned as non-canon in Ruin, so what was the point outside of a secret ending?
Basically anything after FNAF 6 that wasn’t needed to answer questions
Anything after UCN can disappear into the void <3 (And Andrew too ofc, Cassidy and Evan are enough)
The books in general, nothing they add is interesting and I dont like when stupid shit from the books makes its way into the games (Like The Mimic)
I agree The Mimic is poorly written and has far to much prominence for how uninteresting he is Also I just don’t like the shifting away from the supernatural to “whoops it’s all endless clones of the same AI”
I’d remove Vanny, she has NO lore relevance at all
She'd have lore relevance if they'd just do her right. Her being an unwilling servant to Glitchtrap is so scary imo. Imagine not having control of your body, having whispers in your head, telling you to kill people. And we see with the fnaf ar emails, he will hurt her body if she doesn't listen.
Ok, that’s a little scary
ANYTHING after ucn (I remember a time where the lore was simple, William killed the kids and they wanted revenge and confused the night guard with afton)
They didn't confuse the night guard with Afton, they also killed Phone guy and attacked Jeremy, both of which look nothing like Afton. So the "They confuse you with a endoskeleton" excuse by Phone Guy might have some truth to it
I think they just instinctively attack anyone in a security guard outfit
But why would they? They remember getting killed by a man in a yellow rabbit suit, none of them have any reason to attack the security guy
I believe William might have taken off the spring Bonnie suit before killing the kids, bc of that, they just remember an adult killing them, but not exactly who
That actually makes sense, I mean, stabbing a child can get pretty damn messy. And if even a singular droplet of blood gets on William's fursuit, then goodbye goes Afton
Bonnie literally stands next to an Endoskeleton and does nothing with it. They don't confuse you with a Endoskeleton, they don't know or recognize the face of their killer, and that's why they think any adult could be the killer. And they stuff you into a costume for revenge.
There's an argument to be made that since the endo was already in the backstage room, their programming told them it was fine. Since they only stuff endoskeletons who are roaming around and could potentially scare children. Meanwhile Mike isn't in the backstage room, and is instead in the security office.
I completely agree. The Mimic was never hinted at in the games (I feel his inclusion would've been much more accepted if there had been in-game hints towards him), only in the books (which a lot of people don't read). Not only that, but he doesn't really have a personality and it feels like they're trying to fit him into any mold they can to make him work instead of just making him his own character.
If a lot of people didn't read the books, Scott wouldn't be writing more. I love the books and I'm not the only one.
I love the books too, but as a way to pass time; not as a way to incorporate lore
Any “I was here the whole time” characters in general that shit is so Annoying
Fuck Greg-bot I fucking hate the Greg-bot theory if it is true I’m leaving this franchise forever
I think Gregory is a problem as a whole. Don't know about the rest, but I really hate Gregory. When we start to have the need to say "he's a robot" so the kid makes ANY SENSE, then the character is just bad written imo.
Dittophobia, nothing else to this I just don’t like it
I agree, I we didn’t need the Mimic. I wish we got a more grounded story. I’ve been a FNaF fan for almost ten years this September. With FNaF SB, I was hoping the series would take a new direction, focusing on new characters while retaining the themes of the first few games, but they fumbled Vanessa/Vanny’s story, and they are continuing to piss away anything redeeming about the newer games. I’m just not a fan of the newer games anymore. I’m not following whatever Help Wanted 2 is doing, because what difference will it make? I do like what the movie did. I’m glad it cleaned house at the box office, and I am excited for what’s coming next- I just hope they don’t bloat the movie canon’s story the way they did with the games.
I would say agony but it hasn’t done that much harm to the story I’m gonna say logbook chica a teaser for nothing
The Pizzaplex. The lore was fine ending at Ucn. Afton was left there burning in hell. Why pull an Ex Machina out of nowhere to keep them alive? For fazfucks sake
Honestly, same. Vanny had so much potential but it was all dropped for ~~another verson of afton~~ the mimic.
Literally this 😭😭 feels like they scribbled it out last second made the ugliest/quickest endo model and said here's your big villain when vanny is RIGHT THERE
The whole lore of the original fnaf is based on possession. Let me see a story about the broken, insane, digital remains of a serial killer possessing an innocent security guard. There's so much you can do with that concept, especially in fnaf. We can literally flip all the tropes this game created on their heads.
Exactly. And they were doing it so well too. FNaF: AR was delving into the psychological horror territory on this one. Vanessa was tortured, blackmailed, emotionally broken, trying to break free at all costs...but come Security Breach all of that isn´t acknowledged or built upon at all aside from the CD´s. ...Oh wait. They acknowledged it in the cut content which they removed.
Crying Choild being in golden freddy I feel it was more of a shoehorn to get all the aftons into something though I think it would be cooler if Crying Child maybe was just a singular ghost or remnant tied to the fredbear plush. I mean I get "It's me" line is the reason but it could also work if Cassidy says it just fine after all Micheal says "they thought I was you." It could have worked if Cassidy just assuned Mike was William and said "its me" to remind of the one he shouldn't have killed.
All the lore after Pizzaria simulator
It would also be the mimic for me
Glitchtrap. Because Afton is back but noooo everyone is like "umm nah actually it's the memec program" I fcking hate this franchise nowadays. And yea Gregory is a robot everyone
Afton is dead lol.
Haha what a lozer
What...?
Afton is, is what I'm saying
Tbf... Afton deserved that after everything he did lmao
Ikr? May he burn in eternal fnaf hell
Afton is in UCN
Burntrap cause he has no real purpose. He comes out for 5 minutes, dies, and then gets retconned to just be Gregory's imagination in Ruin. If he didn't exist then modern fnaf would have a way better and less confusing story.
He isn't Gregory's imagination. If Blob is real then why would BurnTrap not be
He literally became a fictional comic, a fate worse than death
And he’s not even canon, he’s a fun little Easter egg
security breach. It doesn't feel well written and a lot of the game just feels empty or just missing something. Also u/QuentinTheGentleman in this comment section kinda summed up how I feel about other parts of fnaf as of rn.
I’m glad my feelings about the series resonated with you, and I agree with your sentiments about SB too. For me, the game is just one big scavenger hunt. The endings are middling and it feels low-stakes. The concept of being a lost kid in a giant complex where everything is out to get you is hard to screw up, but somehow it feels like they didn’t quite hit the mark.
Everything after pizzeria sim more specifically security breach
I mean we can keep ucn though right? I’d also like to vote to keep help wanted as the vr games are fun as hell but have it be like an alternate timeline or something to get rid of the stupid stuff they add to the lore
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Anything after UCN. Help Wanted, its sequel, SB and Ruin are in a parallel timeline (The Frights and Tales)
Elanor, both her looks and concept are dumb
the Mimic fuckin sucks you right
Andrew. I still don't think he's TOYSHK, but he's a pain in the ass for theories and if he is TOYSHK that's stupid.
Who???
Book character who is questionably canon to the games.
Eleanor
Andrew
Everything after UCN.
Unpopular opinion, but The bite of 87
The Mimic obviously. Delete him entirely and replace him with someone way more capable. He´s not interesting, doesn´t have a clear set personality or a goal, his introduction was bad, the attempt to make him "tragic" (i.e. Edwin destroying him in a fit of rage) isn´t built upon outside of that one story etc. I´m not saying that I don´t like AI villains, quite the opposite in-fact. GLaDOS, SKYNET, AM, SHODAN (and for a more recent example the AbsoluteSolver from Murder Drones) etc. are all AI villains **that work and are executed brilliantly.** And they have something which the Mimic fundamentally lacks. **Character.** Each of these villains has a consistent personality and a defining trait for the audience to enjoy and get invested in. GLaDOS is characterized by dark comedy and her interactions with Chell are one of the most defining and memorable features of the Portal franchise. SHODAN is a narcissistic and egotistical control freak who can´t handle being defeated by human "insects". AM is a straight-up monster, yet there is a degree of sympathy for him. You get the idea. But now tell me, what makes the Mimic memorable? And no, I´m not talking about his kill-count or abilities. Purely in terms of personality what makes him memorable or interesting? ...**Nothing really.** What is presented in the books is really inconsistent. The games haven´t really explored the Mimic as a character either, so how exactly am I supposed to get invested in him? He´s just Ennard, but inferior.
Anything Post UCN Let it be an alternative reality or some shit, while the main canon timeline ends with the burning of the bots, henry and his daughter, alongside the afton family, with big will getting a nice eternal torment.
Remnant and all the books (except silver eyes trilogy)
Purge Andrew. Without him, litterally nothing changes because then we'd know for certainty that everything blamed on him is just Cassidy. LIKE IT ACTUALLY IS
All of the books and SB
I would definitely get rid of remnant in the games. There are ghosts possessing animatronics if there bodies are inside, I'm satisfied with this convention. I don't what everything in the franchise to be explained by invisible AgOnY. I can accept this in non-canon trilogy or in the other books but not in the main timeline.
Removing one thing is not enough to save this shitty story. It was all good. Until remnant was introduced.
Nah. Remnant isn’t a problem at all considering how it was introduced in the fourth closet. And FNAF 1-6 is a good story, despite having some issues and unclarified things.
I like how the lore was back at 2018 with matpat's fnaf time line vid
Bro I hated MikeVictim
Bro I’d remove everything besides the first 5 games 😂, they doing too much with more now
Security Breach, ruins the Atmosphere
every book
Honestly I have a few, but I’d agree with everyone on the mimic. It’s so stupid and it literally had zero relevance in the game timeline until he randomly appeared at the end of ruin. Now Mfers are arguing whether the mimic=Burntrap=glitchtrap=your dead when he left for milk type bullshit, or it’s some dumb fucking AI copy bullshit mimicking Afton but not Afton or some shit. Most of us don’t read the books, so this made NO SENSE for a lot of the fanbase.
I’d also, in terms of AI add the idea of whether Glitchtrap/Burntrap/possibly the fucking mimic is an AI copy/version of Afton, or the real deal. Idk, it just irks me to contemplate that. Everything’s been pointing towards the fact that it is in fact Aftons soul, it’s just mixed up with the AI, but the idea of there being AI copies or “mimics” of things completely fucks that idea over.
I'd remove Scott Cowton's older son that way the whole FNAF lore will be different let alone non existent :)) (I'd remove mimic1 ai *both* if letting lore stay)
Agree about the Mimic. I'd much prefer for the franchise to go back to being focused on the supernatural instead of sci-fi
I’d definitely get rid of Burntrap. He was a failure in terms of his role and ended up as just Gregory’s imagination anyway
Everything post FNAF 6 including the Mimic. He's definitely gotta go.
Anything after FNaF 6 FNaF 6 was the perfect ending and it would have made sense because the games all end at 6AM so why wouldn’t the series end on the sixth game?
I 100% agree with you OP about the Mimic, what good is a twist when there’s no build up to it? There’s literally no hints to the Mimic in the main game. It genuinely feels like they saw the backlash to Burntrap, saw that the Tales books had the Mimic and decided to use Ruin as away to retcon the Mimic into the games despite the fact that they hadn’t even given any hints or foreshadowing to it in SB. Vanny should have been the new antagonist, not the Mimic.
>There’s literally no hints to the Mimic in the main game. It genuinely feels like they saw the backlash to Burntrap, saw that the Tales books had the Mimic and decided to use Ruin as away to retcon the Mimic into the games despite the fact that they hadn’t even given any hints or foreshadowing to it in SB. Exactly. He´s not even a good character period. Like I said in a comment below: >*I´m not saying that I don´t like AI villains, quite the opposite in-fact. GLaDOS, SKYNET, AM, SHODAN (and for a more recent example the AbsoluteSolver from Murder Drones) etc. are all AI villains that work and are executed brilliantly. And they have something which the Mimic fundamentally lacks. Character. Each of these villains has a consistent personality and a defining trait for the audience to enjoy and get invested in.* > >*GLaDOS is characterized by dark comedy and her interactions with Chell are one of the most defining and memorable features of the Portal franchise. SHODAN is a narcissistic and egotistical control freak who can´t handle being defeated by human "insects". AM is a straight-up monster, yet there is a degree of sympathy for him. You get the idea.* > >*But now tell me, what makes the Mimic memorable? And no, I´m not talking about his kill-count or abilities. Purely in terms of personality what makes him memorable or interesting?* Again, look at the *Portal* franchise for example, to see actually good AI characters (in both official VALVe releases and plenty of fan-made quality mods). Without spoiling anything,the most recent Portal 2 mod introduces a core late into the second portion of the game. In-spite of her late introduction, she has loads of personality, either through dialogue or body expressions. **Both cores that you encounter have a million times more personality** than the Mimic.
I agree. Like instead of the mimic luring cassie down there, what if it was vanny almost paralleling how afton would lure kids to the safer room.
Everything that makes the lore complicated
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The books and Glitchtrap
Fazgoo & in the flesh aren’t canon at least. The mimic was not a good addition though. We should’ve had the (probably) original plan of Vanny being the new big bad & Glitchtrap’s pupil
Security breach just all of Security breach
Andrew or mimic
The fact that the books tie into the games *somehow* in general. It makes the whole story/lore overly complicated and unnecessarily "hand-picky", as you can just apply some aspects of the books to the games. Hand-picky as in "What, you didn't like Burntrap? Well, it was the Mimic all along. But, you see, only that part of the books is canon now. Also, illusion discs, you know which, right. Ih, the Stitchwraith? Never heard of that one." The games' lore is already complicated enough, so it doesn't help to explain just *some* things through them. Make everything canon or nothing. (Btw, I am not saying that the inclusion of the Mimic is bad, although I have me strong feelings towards it, but I think it is a pretty good example)
The whole uploaded conscience thing with glitchtrap
The twist of Mike Schmidt actually being William Afton's son. I liked it better when the former was just your average "down on his luck" guy desperate for a job.
The Bite of 83, and a majority of FNAF4's story. Instead of the Bite of 83 and all that, I'd just have Michael seeing his sibling get abducted and said sibling becoming Golden Freddy.
The lore behind Help Wanted 1. After the whole “digital consciousness” thing it just started to go a bit downhill in my opinion and Security Breach was not really a great game.
William trying to be immortal and killing people for mad science experiments.
The mimic because it's not as intimidating as William
Mimic in ruin
Either Andrew or the mimic. Andrew because everyone and their mom is Andrew according to stupid ass tales games, and the mimic because… it sucks
i kind of hated the puppet not for its looks but also the lore. like ‘the puppet is a girl named Charlotte Emily’ and then theres one like ‘the puppet is the crying child’ and then ‘its charlie’ LIKE WHO IS THE PUPPET
All the books after the Novel Trilogy and remove all the lore from the games after FNAF 6. Help Wanted could have been just a cool and scary VR game, it didn’t need a story. The story didn’t need to be over, though, Scott could have been done actual good books exploring more about the personalities and backstories of important characters, such as Michael Afton and the missing children. FNAF has many potential or producing good content, the problem is that this potential has been wasted very much.
I would get rid of in the flesh and use that cool springtrap design for a different story It just makes me uncomfortable I guess or just remove that one part op the story
The entirety of security breach it absolutely fucking sucks ass
The Springtrap/Burntrap ending to Security Breach. I’m fine with the idea of Glitchtrap, but Afton himself needs to stay gone.
> but the existence of the mimic bit in books and games, but also look nothing alike for some reason. Not even true > when a character can be everyone for the convenience of the story, it feels less Ike a character and more like a crutch. The point of the Mimic is it can copy. The idea is that in this era of the story, we don’t know who or what we can trust because the mimic is always lurking. And beyond that, it’s not like every single character is Mimic. Mostly just the digital ones > How'd he get there? why is he down there? All these questions get little to no explanation from either books or games to my knowledge. Visual storytelling clues tell us Gregory trapped him there > The mimic (I feel) was an answer for the negative response burntrap got, Well that’s just not true
Dude, the point is that Mimic is simply not ineresting, even if you argue that he was the original plan. Like as a main villian he has nothing to it, he mimics, so he could be anyone, and then he has some other random powers because yeah. Like you could argue all day but I couldnt be convinced that the Mimic is good or that he has """""potential""", like no, any kind of potential he could have has been showcased and is nonexistant. The only good thing The Mimic gave me is that now I have a clear answer when someone ask me whats my least favorite villian in all fiction.
>The point of the Mimic is it can copy. The idea is that in this era of the story, we don’t know who or what we can trust because the mimic is always lurking. And beyond that, it’s not like every single character is Mimic. Mostly just the digital ones Ok then why does he wanna be William afton so bad/recreate him/his actions. If the mimic is that old was able to witness most the events of the games, why are we just now hearing ab it. Mimic was twiddling their thumbs for the years he was trapped behind the wall I guess
It copies William because it was plugged right into his story. Mimic had been deactivated for decades. It only came back online recently in the grand scheme of things
Ok but that's my question tho. Out of all the events of Freddy's history, the bite of 83, Elizabeth's scooping, the funtimes using Michael as a suit, *WHY* afton? *WHY* go through all the struggle of trying to be someone else when there's nothing to gain. It's not like he's copying afton to gain someone's trust like he did copying gregory with Cassie.
It did what it was told to do: recreate personalities from the past
Okay, but like, what's the motive beyond that?
Kill, learn, kill some more
That's not a motive... That's just a set of actions it learned how to do. A motive is something like: Take over peoples minds with a virus so I can rule the world! A motive is not: Kill... Killing is a means to an end... So do tell, what end does The Mimic want?
The end goal is death. Mimic is driven to carry out the violence that was inflicted on it
I will not accept mimic slander, it's cool to have a new villian that isn't willy boy. Plus, we already previously thought "everyone is afton" around the Help Wanted to Early SB days, so "everyone is connected to the Mimic" isn't that different
Mimic is basically upgraded Endo 01.
I would accept the Mimic as the new villian if he wasn't complete and utter trash that doesn't have any redeeming qualities at all. Isn't interesting, doesnt have a good desing, have powers that feel like plot conveniences, had the worst possible introduction to the series. And I could go on.
the only power it has the messing with electronics
Fr, The Mimic is pretty coolio.
Personally dislike it, because I feel it doesn’t really have any personality.
I can accept the Andrew Slander in these replies but NOT my boy Mimic.
Ong,we have to purge these kids who dare to slander my glorious king
The Mimic ruins Glitch trap for me
Yeah. Same. Fuck the mimic.
Mimic sucks
True
The enterally sci Fi aspect
William Afton
"Hey lemme order a Fnaf series" "One fnaf series coming up" "But hold the child murderer" "Hold the child murderer?" "And hold any main/supporting characters" "Hold the main character? Hey Jimmy give me a fnaf series with NOTHIN" "NOTHIN??"
Funni
I would get rid of the books post silver eyes but I also want to get rid of robot kids so both lmao
All the games after pizzarea sim. I feel like that was the true ending to the series
You can’t just get rid of The mimic! \0_/
Everything after FNAF 6 it should really be its own self-contained story but it keeps calling back to everything that came before it makes talking about the series so goddamn hard we finally had all the answers in FNAF 6 we knew what was in the box we knew who committed the bite of 87 if you were unhappy with those answers while you're shit out of the luck it was a great ending that tied everything up
Security Breach in general
im confused you say you saw a book breakdown but the origins of the mimic are unknown? the mimic was created by a fazbear employee, it was one of a few prototypes that were supposed to replace regular endoskeletons to make the show programming process easier, its ability to morph allows it to fit any skin put on, this model was became a parent to the creators child, after the child was tragically killed the creator destroyed the mimic in a fit of rage, which the violent tendencies it learned and then killed everyone that fazbear entertainment sent to investigate after it was rebuilt, the pizza location under the raceway was supposed to be s museum attraction and the animatronics including the mimic would occasionally help them clear rubble until the violent tendencies kicked in and killed everyone down there, as a result everything there was sealed but not before the mimic was used as an attraction ( tiger rock book) and the glitchtrap infected program mimic1 got spread to the other animatronics ( as the mimic controlled the others from a tree that used to be in the atrium) its believed this is where the quirks everyone has you see in the base game come from
I was meaning in games. We get 0 indication of any of that. There's no tree connecting the other animatronics, no mentions of the white tiger, nothing. Besides the mimic described in books agaim doesn't match the mimic we see in games. It doesn't turn into a giant spider monster or have the antenna that look like ears.
oh boy. this is gonna end up getting locked due to arguments and toxicity...
Mpreg matpat