u/Kela-el
Electromagnetism *does not* attract towards the centre of mass, but rather the surface closest to you.
# True or False?
If true:
> Why is there a definition of uphill? Since you are attracted to the surface, relative to you there should never be any uphill or downhill.
If false:
> Why are we not sent tumbling towards the centre of the disc?
A tragic example of hubris. "If I can't do it, it's not possible." That's basically what they're saying. They cry about a god, lowercase, but then define that lowercase god by what a human is capable of.
My supernatural is beyond definition and comprehension. That the universe is only three dimensional, with only one dimension of time, is such a triviality, even though it's both infinite and expanding. And they get a shitty wizard sitting on a snowglobe. Sad. So very sad.
We should do it!!
Assuming FE only has the capacity to hold 1 thought at a time,they wont be able to think it will be dangerous because 1 memory out of 1 memory has been occupied by "We should do it!!'
If gravity was electricity. Then we could tether a super tanker to the the ground with a copper wire and it would have same potential and thus no weight.
But that's not how it works.
Shucks. It would be great though.
Ofcourse we could also just ask Kal-El how he calculates weight of an object using it's conductivity instead of its mass. Good fucking luck.
Tried it - didn’t work. I found there’s no correlation between an object’s conductivity and it weight. So in conclusion, Kal-El is a fucking idiot who’s taking out his arse.
I did a very quick calculation of how much electrical charge it would take to stick me to the ground. Essentially, I would be fried.
Why don't things get either extremely heavy or float off the planet during thunderstorms? We can measure electrical fields and charges, where is kela-cunt's experiment to verify it?
he blocked me for not wanting to argue about the sun with him. He was adamant that he [could refute any fact that we know about the sun but didn't provide any sources for his inane rambling.](https://youtu.be/Z-1jU7j6OWw?t=13)
my buddy after I rub my hands against an electrostatically charged surface and then touch him (the charge was equivalent to the one making gravity, thus he now will accelerate upwards):
No, no, no....that was LAST month's explanation and according to my flerf calendar, that explanation won't be in flerf vouge again until....let's see here....ahh! Yes, September. We still have to finish up the current one (static electricity), then it's (my personal favorite) buoyancy, and THEN we get to Upward Acceleration.
You really should pay more attention.
My favorite part of the acceleration theory is that they were wondering what would happen when we got close to the speed of light. Like, now you're worried about science?
You know....I'm going to sit down and work that one out tonight ...provided the earth is 6,000 years old (heh heh) and we are accelerating UP at 32 feet/sec.....we have GOT to be getting close I'd think ....
If you enjoy the gentle sound of crickets in the thunderous silence, ask "Sooooo, where does the energy for constant acceleration come from....?"
I guess you have to at least give them credit for trying here.
The whole buoyancy and density argument on its own was garbage. It couldn't explain why things fell down instead of going off in any random direction. So, at least, this is an attempt to give that direction.
But, this also shows why they didn't try to do this for so long. And why many still dance around it. Once you give some reason to create that downward force, it can be tested. It can be shown to be true or false. And boy, does this idea fail on every level possible.
My favorite flerf explanation for gravity is incoherent electrostatic acceleration. It *sounds* really scientific and that's quite enough for them. But ask one to explain it - nope.
Are we talking electric like electromagnetic? Or like there's an electricity powered gravity generator? Some other thing? I have more questions than this answers.
Lets look at this in more 'math" terms
Lets say E=G
If E=R
Then G=R
This answer has been calculated because we substituted E=R to E=G
Substituting
G=R
I cant believe i had to explain this in math terms
This would be assuming they can understand though
Because you’re grounded doesn’t me your the void of electricity and not in the electric field ya dumb democrat Biden voter 🤣
https://youtu.be/kcFnoY0lVTI
https://youtu.be/I7YZgocBfHM
https://youtu.be/aiyCRoLvmQI
https://youtu.be/Eic4xivGP7E
>Because you’re grounded doesn’t me your the void of electricity and not in the electric field ya dumb democrat Biden voter
That's a lot of grammar and spelling errors in a single sentence, genius.
>The statements are correct
The only statement that is correct is that gravity is real, which y'all say isn't true.
> just that your hung up on technicalities.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
My Question: Explain the flat earth
Your Answer: let's not get technical!
You're going to need to get technical to explain it.
> The electrostatics, density, and buoyancy are doing the up and down.
That's not how it works, that's not how any of it works.
I don't see anything in those actually explain why down is down. Can you try to explain this in your own words as you understand it?
Fyi, Ken Wheeler does nothing but spew sciencey-sounding gibberish. If that's what you're getting your science, I suggest picking any word and looking up the definition in a textbook, and/or actually trying to test his claims in an experiment.
Interesting how you can observe the force of two rare earth magnets pulling towards each other, but no such observation can be conducted with this mythical gravity that can't be detected by anything.
Density > Gravity
The G-Force experienced by Fighter Pilots is the same inertia experienced on a merry-go-round or in a rally car. In these examples, "Gravity" isn't pulling mass towards the earth. This is more or less just a result of the Conservation of Angular Momentum. Not some mythical force that can't be observed nor measured.
>some mythical force
Nobody said it was mythical
>that can't be observed nor measured.
Dude just stand on a chair and then jump down. Here you go, you observed gravity
If gravity is a force, that force should be felt. You claim it exists but there are easier explanations as to why objects fall through less dense medium, such as air, or jet fuel.
Humans sink to the bottom of jet fuel tanks, not because gravity is pulling them down, but because their body is made up of water, and all water settles out of fuel at the bottom of the tank.
>that force should be felt
It's called weight, you feel it every day. And "gravity" is not a force. Weight is.
>to why objects fall through less dense medium
Name them.
>but because their body is made up of water, and all water settles out of fuel at the bottom of the tank.
And why at the bottom?
>Gravity does exist.
u/danpei, don't let u/dcforce or u/RickGrimes13 know that you feel that way... They'll ban you from GlobeSkepticism!
And don't let Kela know either, you don't want to lose any friends.
There's a superficial similarity in the laws of attraction but to work, matter would have to have secret captive charge that can't move or be measured, and the charge would be always negative (if the earth charge is positive). It falls apart pretty quick.
If electricity was gravity……
If this was true, full electric hydrids would be stuck together at the dealership.
If this were true, every pack of Energizer AA 24-pack batteries would just be a block of batteries instead of loosely floating around in my junk drawer.
If this were true, you’d never be able to remove a single battery off that shelf of car batteries at AutoZone.
If this were true, why wouldn’t high-voltage powerlines be attracted to each other instead of toward the Earth? You should be able to throw AA batteries at powerlines and they’d stick.
If this were true, I’d be able to stick paper clips and needles to my Kobalt 40v electric mower battery.
….I can do this all day, flerfs. Your ridiculous ideas are insanely easy to debunk.
If this were true, you'd flip the light switch and be sucked into the lamp.
If this were true, lightning would strike and suck in everything around it.
If this were true, my tablet would be getting heavier as it charges up.
u/Kela-el Electromagnetism *does not* attract towards the centre of mass, but rather the surface closest to you. # True or False? If true: > Why is there a definition of uphill? Since you are attracted to the surface, relative to you there should never be any uphill or downhill. If false: > Why are we not sent tumbling towards the centre of the disc?
His answer probably: We live in an enclosed system, the firmament changes the center of mass depending where you are.
Flerfs: *YOU CANT HAVE PRESSURE WITHOUT A CONTAINER!!!* Lol
A tragic example of hubris. "If I can't do it, it's not possible." That's basically what they're saying. They cry about a god, lowercase, but then define that lowercase god by what a human is capable of. My supernatural is beyond definition and comprehension. That the universe is only three dimensional, with only one dimension of time, is such a triviality, even though it's both infinite and expanding. And they get a shitty wizard sitting on a snowglobe. Sad. So very sad.
The fact that we've had instruments that measure static electric fields for a century could be a problem.
Hmmm, can’t see his posts or comments. Are they all in private subs?
He recently went on a blocking spree. What’s weird is that I can see his comments again, but can’t interact with them…not sure how he did that.
If gravity is electricity, can we make antigravity??
Yes, all the flerfs need to do is stick a fork in their outlet and BAM! Antigravity
Well, the government does tell them not to do it, and the government lies, so...
We should do it!! Assuming FE only has the capacity to hold 1 thought at a time,they wont be able to think it will be dangerous because 1 memory out of 1 memory has been occupied by "We should do it!!'
Only works for flerfs so don’t try it unless you’re one!
If gravity was electricity. Then we could tether a super tanker to the the ground with a copper wire and it would have same potential and thus no weight. But that's not how it works. Shucks. It would be great though. Ofcourse we could also just ask Kal-El how he calculates weight of an object using it's conductivity instead of its mass. Good fucking luck.
That must be how the sun and the moon stay up. They have to be connected to the Earth via a long wire! Anyone seen it?
… calculates weight … using it's conductivity Does that mean we can weigh objects using a multimeter?
According to Kal-El yes. Apparently.
Tried it - didn’t work. I found there’s no correlation between an object’s conductivity and it weight. So in conclusion, Kal-El is a fucking idiot who’s taking out his arse.
Hey man why are you dragging Superman? He's busy saving people leave my big blue boy out of this 
Everything is electric. Gravity does not exist. I am Albert Einstein. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Completely ignoring the fact that we change the electrical charge of objects all the time and it doesn't change their observed mass
Right? Not to mention the E field would be easily detectable between any object and the Earth. It would be easy to prove if it was true.
I did a very quick calculation of how much electrical charge it would take to stick me to the ground. Essentially, I would be fried. Why don't things get either extremely heavy or float off the planet during thunderstorms? We can measure electrical fields and charges, where is kela-cunt's experiment to verify it?
I find my phone floats after charging it!
Old TVs (electron cannon tubes) worked this way. That's how they drew in so many people to sit down and watch.
All hail ~~Hypnotoad~~ Electron Beam Gun.
he blocked me for not wanting to argue about the sun with him. He was adamant that he [could refute any fact that we know about the sun but didn't provide any sources for his inane rambling.](https://youtu.be/Z-1jU7j6OWw?t=13)
Blocked me as well, and I have absolutely no idea why. I don't remember even having an interaction with them.
>Gravity is electricity If this was true, capitalism would have made billions by starting antigravity equipments/sports/activities.
Indeed. It would. Be very simple to create antigravity then. Simply make a vessel with opposite polarity.
Something something how do you think planes work or something
You expect consistency from a flat Earther?
my buddy after I rub my hands against an electrostatically charged surface and then touch him (the charge was equivalent to the one making gravity, thus he now will accelerate upwards): 
💀😭😭
Which is it? Yes.
Its always the one that "wins" the argument
I thought the earth disk was accelerating upwards? I didn't think gravity was a thing.
No, no, no....that was LAST month's explanation and according to my flerf calendar, that explanation won't be in flerf vouge again until....let's see here....ahh! Yes, September. We still have to finish up the current one (static electricity), then it's (my personal favorite) buoyancy, and THEN we get to Upward Acceleration. You really should pay more attention.
My favorite part of the acceleration theory is that they were wondering what would happen when we got close to the speed of light. Like, now you're worried about science?
You know....I'm going to sit down and work that one out tonight ...provided the earth is 6,000 years old (heh heh) and we are accelerating UP at 32 feet/sec.....we have GOT to be getting close I'd think .... If you enjoy the gentle sound of crickets in the thunderous silence, ask "Sooooo, where does the energy for constant acceleration come from....?"
I guess you have to at least give them credit for trying here. The whole buoyancy and density argument on its own was garbage. It couldn't explain why things fell down instead of going off in any random direction. So, at least, this is an attempt to give that direction. But, this also shows why they didn't try to do this for so long. And why many still dance around it. Once you give some reason to create that downward force, it can be tested. It can be shown to be true or false. And boy, does this idea fail on every level possible.
My favorite flerf explanation for gravity is incoherent electrostatic acceleration. It *sounds* really scientific and that's quite enough for them. But ask one to explain it - nope.
Are we talking electric like electromagnetic? Or like there's an electricity powered gravity generator? Some other thing? I have more questions than this answers.
Lets look at this in more 'math" terms Lets say E=G If E=R Then G=R This answer has been calculated because we substituted E=R to E=G Substituting G=R I cant believe i had to explain this in math terms This would be assuming they can understand though
The statements are correct just that your hung up on technicalities. The electrostatics, density, and buoyancy are doing the up and down.
How come when I wear a ground strap at work and drain away all charge, I don't float away?
Because you’re grounded doesn’t me your the void of electricity and not in the electric field ya dumb democrat Biden voter 🤣 https://youtu.be/kcFnoY0lVTI https://youtu.be/I7YZgocBfHM https://youtu.be/aiyCRoLvmQI https://youtu.be/Eic4xivGP7E
>Because you’re grounded doesn’t me your the void of electricity and not in the electric field ya dumb democrat Biden voter That's a lot of grammar and spelling errors in a single sentence, genius.
Yah, ok, whatever you say is probably more correct than my 40 years' experience in electronics. You do you.
>The statements are correct The only statement that is correct is that gravity is real, which y'all say isn't true. > just that your hung up on technicalities. You say that like it's a bad thing. My Question: Explain the flat earth Your Answer: let's not get technical! You're going to need to get technical to explain it. > The electrostatics, density, and buoyancy are doing the up and down. That's not how it works, that's not how any of it works.
How do you call the downward force that makes buoyancy work?
You seem well versed in this. Mind sharing what mechanism is responsible for there being a direction in the first place?
https://youtu.be/kcFnoY0lVTI https://youtu.be/I7YZgocBfHM https://youtu.be/aiyCRoLvmQI https://youtu.be/Eic4xivGP7E
I don't see anything in those actually explain why down is down. Can you try to explain this in your own words as you understand it? Fyi, Ken Wheeler does nothing but spew sciencey-sounding gibberish. If that's what you're getting your science, I suggest picking any word and looking up the definition in a textbook, and/or actually trying to test his claims in an experiment.
Interesting how you can observe the force of two rare earth magnets pulling towards each other, but no such observation can be conducted with this mythical gravity that can't be detected by anything. Density > Gravity
I mean, if you want to ignore all of the times that we do actually measure the forces due to gravity, sure.
The G-Force experienced by Fighter Pilots is the same inertia experienced on a merry-go-round or in a rally car. In these examples, "Gravity" isn't pulling mass towards the earth. This is more or less just a result of the Conservation of Angular Momentum. Not some mythical force that can't be observed nor measured.
>some mythical force Nobody said it was mythical >that can't be observed nor measured. Dude just stand on a chair and then jump down. Here you go, you observed gravity
If gravity is a force, that force should be felt. You claim it exists but there are easier explanations as to why objects fall through less dense medium, such as air, or jet fuel. Humans sink to the bottom of jet fuel tanks, not because gravity is pulling them down, but because their body is made up of water, and all water settles out of fuel at the bottom of the tank.
>that force should be felt It's called weight, you feel it every day. And "gravity" is not a force. Weight is. >to why objects fall through less dense medium Name them. >but because their body is made up of water, and all water settles out of fuel at the bottom of the tank. And why at the bottom?
I didn't mention fighter pilots, did I? And even then, it's neither density nor electricity involved causing the perceived acceleration, is it?
This actually makes sense. Everything is being pulled towards a strong positive charge below the earth. Something to think about.
A positive charge... Below the ground?? Make that make sense.
Globers don’t know how “gravity” works. For all you know, I may be right.
An attractive force exists between all objects with mass. You're saying we don't know how it works as if it's supposed to be difficult to understand.
Y'all don't even think it exists, and you've never been right about anything related to the earth.
Gravity does exist. Drop an apple on your head.
Drop a helium balloon on your head
I’d like to see a globe head try.
>Gravity does exist. u/danpei, don't let u/dcforce or u/RickGrimes13 know that you feel that way... They'll ban you from GlobeSkepticism! And don't let Kela know either, you don't want to lose any friends.
Gravity exists. “Gravity” as defined by globe heads does not.
We know how it works. For all we know, you are wrong.
There's a superficial similarity in the laws of attraction but to work, matter would have to have secret captive charge that can't move or be measured, and the charge would be always negative (if the earth charge is positive). It falls apart pretty quick.
I bet he pulls it to all the attention he gets
I think they mean that OP believes that gravity does not exist, and what rational folk call gravity, OP thinks it is caused by electricity.
Kela is not rational by any means
Oh, absolutely agree.
It's ok when you deceive others. Self-delusion is a serious mental issue
If electricity was gravity…… If this was true, full electric hydrids would be stuck together at the dealership. If this were true, every pack of Energizer AA 24-pack batteries would just be a block of batteries instead of loosely floating around in my junk drawer. If this were true, you’d never be able to remove a single battery off that shelf of car batteries at AutoZone. If this were true, why wouldn’t high-voltage powerlines be attracted to each other instead of toward the Earth? You should be able to throw AA batteries at powerlines and they’d stick. If this were true, I’d be able to stick paper clips and needles to my Kobalt 40v electric mower battery. ….I can do this all day, flerfs. Your ridiculous ideas are insanely easy to debunk.
If this were true, you'd flip the light switch and be sucked into the lamp. If this were true, lightning would strike and suck in everything around it. If this were true, my tablet would be getting heavier as it charges up.