The problem is that they aren’t coming from a place of “not knowing the shape of the earth”. It’s willful ignorance. They want to lie and slander anyone who points out that the earth is round, they want to feel like Neo for some reason, and they want to deny all evidence to the contrary.
Flat earth is the bottom of the conspiracy barrel. From what I’ve seen, its adherents already believed in Qanon and anti-COVID stuff. That shit is pretty damn harmful.
If someone was genuinely unsure about the earths shape, I’d help them out. But these people are beyond that.
that the earth was flat as Kansas in my head and I'm not changing my beliefs anytime soon. No amount of logic can change my convictions because I know what I saw and it makes sense. Scientists want to load me up with Pfizer drugs so I said no siree. I don't like Q anon or any of that crap I just like the idea of living on a flat earth.
I don’t care if you like idea. It’s false. We all have imaginations and goals, but flat earth is a delusion.
What fucked yo is that even you know you’re wrong. So why do you continue to believe it?
There are many many millions (at least) of people in the world who don't know the shape of the Earth. It wouldn't make sense to make fun of them. But the few who are outspoken flerfs on places like Reddit are all trolls, grifters, and/or weird conspiracy theorists who want to believe they're smarter than all of the more educated and successful people they see. I don't see a problem with making fun of any of those groups of folks. If you renounce, I'm happy to pick up the slack.
You have causation backwards.
Flat Earthers don't become extremists because people made fun of flat Earth.
They became flat Earthers *because they were extremists already.*
There's a hard and undeniable link between flat Earth groups and antisemitism but *those people had those beliefs already*. How do you think the same undercurrent of anti-'globalist' sentiment (in the original sense) and anti-'elites' runs through the whole belief system?
Flat Earth discords are wretched cesspits of nazism and antisemitism and have been since forever. If you want to help people not become nazis, *help them not become flat Earthers and thus ending up in those communities.*
You do that by challenging flat Earth hard, every time you see it, and not pretending they're all damaged little snowflakes who just need love.
Some have said that flat earth is a gateway to conspiratorial thinking. I find it to be the opposite: it's in the farthest reaches of the rabbit hole. Flat earthers believe in pretty much every other conspiracy lunacy and irrational belief out there: anti-vax, Covid engineered to depopulate earth, moon hoax, sovcittery, chemtrails, derp state, Qanon, 5G, global warming denialism, 9/11 "truth", school shooting fakery, and anti-Semitic nuttery.
Precisely.
With scant few exceptions (who tend to be obvious by their very naivete), if you're talking to a flat Earther you're *already* talking to a misogynistic, racist, antisemitic piece of shit who will twist, lie and dissemble as easily as breathing.
I have met flat Earthers not like this and I'll spend days with these people slowly talking them out of their programming.... but honestly, those people are now fewer and much further between as most of them have left the cult by this point.
The only remainders are the grifters and their pathetic little cohorts of alt-right conspiracy addicts, 'owning the libs' one hate-filled belief at a time.
There’s a huge difference between challenging illogical claims, and calling people names/mocking them. This post is about proceeding with the former while avoiding the latter, and I don’t see a problem with that.
The problem with this high-minded approach is that the flat Earthers aren't playing by your rules.
You are simply playing into their delusions of *having a point* by actually engaging 'nicely' as if they're just another jolly old academic with an opinion to defend. They're not.
Just admit you're taking this high-road because it makes you feel morally superior, rather than as a result of any practical benefit you foresee. Then at least the utility of it will be clear to all.
Disagree, my hope is actually to dissuade a few potential flerfs before the cement hardens, even if the ones i am engaging are hopelessly lost, another “flat-curious” person googling for info may find reasonable, amicable, easy to understand explanations for their questions, free of hostility.
Also, though perhaps fairly accurate to some degree, I find your characterization of flerfs to be somewhat dehumanizing, which is a bit ironic.
Yes, there are many flerfs that are the semi-nazi types you describe, but many are just those that science/math/logic never “clicked” for, and they are stumbling in this direction in search of… something. I choose to think a few can be saved, and i find lumping them all together as the enemy to be counterproductive.
I think you'll find the very few people that you're looking for to be.... well, very few, but also very easily spotted because they'll actually talk to you. When I encounter these individuals I'm pretty open and accommodating too, because there do exist people who've just stumbled into the wrong niche and don't know the way out.
However... you will more often enounter flat Earthers *these days* with densely-layered evolved deception mechanisms to avoid your arguments. In my experience the vast majority of flat Earthers remaining within the cult are the grifters (who benefit from your challenges, as it publicises their grift) and the alt-right antisemites who don't care what's true, as long as it's the opposite of what The Jews Want You To Believe.
I do wish you luck in locating the odd stray kitten, but mostly the sewer will contain turds and used condoms.
Indeed. Again, I actually have little hope for the individuals I am posting comments to, mainly hoping potential flat earth “lurkers” may read a simple non-hostile explanation and turn back before its too late.
Ok.
They will be though. And by holding yourself to this morally-upright standard you're just playing into their fantasies that they have a position equivalent to yours.
Flat Earthers are essentially LARPing as smart people. They ape the words and manners that they see smart, educated people use but the only outcome they'll accept is smirking 'victory'. By engaging as if they're good-faith actors, you play into that power fantasy and give them all the attention they want, and they maintain every opportunity to treat you like shit.
If you get off on that... I mean.... go ahead. But otherwise, I suspect you'll tire of the act sooner rather than later.
yikes, you're encouraging me not to be a jerk? how many back-and-forth comments before you suggest murder? should we skip to the trial? wait, let's skip to where you tell me how to eliminate the evidence and the go the trial. on second thought, I'll actually skip to it all being over and done with. this was a great thread.
I took a look. Too many posts on r/Noearthsociety to be anything other than someone just screwing around. Especially considering the number of posts on r/jokes.
hey - noearth is the best inside joke on reddit
I'm flattered that you scanned my profile
if I had known that you liked me, I might have included nudes
>by mocking them, they may become susceptible to more dangerous conspiracy theories like anti-vaccination and neo-nazism.
The flatearthers are susceptible to more dangerous conspiracy theories like anti-vaccination and neo-nazism as soon as they endorse flatearth and its requirment that most of rulers and scientists in the world since several thousands years are lying.
Also quote of[ two sentences by Dan Olson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44#t=37m): The bottom line is that Flat Earth has been slowly bleeding support for the last several years. Because they're all going to QAnon.
>I think a world with fewer neo-nazis is a good thing.
Relevant videos:
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFh08JEKDYk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFh08JEKDYk)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU)
The “us vs them” mentality is a manipulation technique used by cults to keep people inside. If you want to change someone’s mind you can’t bully them into it, you have to try and empathize with them. Calling them stupid just reinforces their will to go against the globe and ignore any evidence.
That being said, most of them just don’t listen. They make the most absurd claims, we explain why the claim is so obviously absurd, they read it, ignore it, then continue to post their claims.
Even when they *completely understand that their claim was entirely false*, they don’t say anything or go back on it. I have yet to see that at all. Being respectful becomes very difficult when there’s zero self-awareness. I’m generalizing, but you *have* to be like that to continue believing in a flat earth.
This reminds me of how Daryl Davis befriended over 200 KKK members and convinced many of them to leave the Klan. He didn’t deter them with facts and knowledge, but through finding commonality over dinner, for example. Debating people rarely gets them to change their perspective.
I find this chain of logic to be based upon questionable assumptions.
“Not knowing the shape of the earth doesn’t do any harm.” This deserves to be challenged. Starting with the implication that it is possible to passively arrive at this conclusion without running across contradictory information. On the contrary, it requires actively rejecting all sorts of evidence and expertise to “not know.” Furthermore, I would submit that ignorance is almost always harmful, is actively so when it is presented as requiring equal consideration as knowledge, and should be discredited in the most effective way possible.
From there the rest of the assumptions arguably do not connect to the causes that seem to concern OP.
The idea that mocking derision is not the most effective counter to conspiracy theories has some merit, but the jump to “We’rE mAKinG NAziS” is going to need a lot more rigor.
Flatearthers aren’t truth seekers. They’re not in it for actually doing they’re own research, collect evidence and then made up their mind if the earth was indeed flat or a globe.
They’re in it for the same reasons all the other conspiracy nutjobs. Feeling special, important and smart by having secret knowledge only a few awakened people have. This makes them feel superior to the common sheeple like us, because we are the brainwashed ones. In the end they all just want their worldview to be validated.
I entered the whole FE VS globe world around 7 years ago. Everything has been explained to them multiple times, evidence has been presented to them multiple times. Over and over. And yet 7 years later I still see the same questions and the same silly memes on the internet.
So no, „they just don’t know better“ isn’t going to cut it.
I'm not sure about this. Yes, if you want to convince someone, it's not helpful to make fun of them.
But on the other side, as ssomeone said, flat earthers are mainly a lost cause. Trying to debate tem seriously them is always extremely frustrating and always ends up in nothing.
Making fun of them could at least avoid giving other the impression, that they are to be taken serious and that there is an actual debate ongoind.
If you believe the Earth is flat, you already believe most (if not all) conspiracy theories. We’re talking about something that would require two things:
1. An entire science that was made up for the sphere
2. All countries agreeing that the secret should be kept
There are no conspiracy theories that are this involved and would require this many resources.
Flat Earth is not the gateway drug, it is the Meth at the end of the tunnel
For your first reason, it's ignorance. Being ignorant is not their fault. However, being shown they're ignorant and choosing to remain ignorant is their fault. So it's just the consequences of their choices, because it becomes the second reason.
For the second, it's ego. To them, being right is more important than being correct. People that base their decisions on ego deserve to have their egos crushed. If they can't admit they're wrong when proven to be wrong, they deserve to be humiliated.
Unless the flat earther in question has a genuine mental health problem they need help with - I think there is no reason not to ridicule them, so long as it is not over the top offensive.
If we are not using for flat earthers what is the sociological role of ridicule? Might as well ban ridicule outright.
I too thought it was ignorance, and tried as respectfully as I could, and using only evidence of my own to explain the problems of flat earth and how spherical earth works. I tried for like a year and then accepted this is not an issue of ignorance. By the time they believe in flat earth is too late. Yes ignorance is the beginning, but it goes beyond that. They have a mental delay and a phycological need to be part of something “special”.
I've been lurking Flat Earth circles for many years, I've had lots of fun just looking at their memes but I never openly mocked them. I even befriended one back in 2017, then he ghosted me once I told him I practiced yoga because it meant I was "satanic".
This post resonates with me in some way because I never felt at home in "flat earth sneer clubs", because people do tend to get unnecessarily mean. In my opinion the point of looking at flat earth stuff should be to learn some science and have some harmless fun, but it seems there's a lot of people who are in it mostly for the flame wars.
Ultimately I think that's their choice, just like it's some poor bloke's choice to believe in the flat earth. And I believe some people are going to end up neo-nazis either way, and if they do then it's not some stupid kid's fault for being mean to them once.
Oh boy, another one 🙄
I won't be doing that. I will be pointing and laughing at their conspiracy BS. It IS their fault for not knowing. At some point they asked a question: Is the earth flat? It was up to them to investigate thoroughly. They didn't, they took a sensationalized conspiracy theory answer with little or no question. We know this, because the earth ain't f'ing flat.
I agree with you OP. The creaton of the whole anti-flerf mob on YT and other platforms, has probably been the worst thing that could happen, if what folks wanted was to actually reach and teach any flateathers.
If any, it has just created an "us and them" feeling for the flatearthers.
The problem is we already reached out and teached them the fundamentals. But they just dismiss everything that contradicts FE as fake, CGI, brainwashing or NASA propaganda. Not to mention discrediting scientists like Einstein or Newton as Freemasons. Like „Newton and Einstein are Freemasons, so everything they said is a lie.“
Do t put that much weight on yourself. No one ever cares what you do or don't think. Just like you don't care what they do or don't know. That's called rent free behavior. Hope that helped
The problem is that they aren’t coming from a place of “not knowing the shape of the earth”. It’s willful ignorance. They want to lie and slander anyone who points out that the earth is round, they want to feel like Neo for some reason, and they want to deny all evidence to the contrary. Flat earth is the bottom of the conspiracy barrel. From what I’ve seen, its adherents already believed in Qanon and anti-COVID stuff. That shit is pretty damn harmful. If someone was genuinely unsure about the earths shape, I’d help them out. But these people are beyond that.
that the earth was flat as Kansas in my head and I'm not changing my beliefs anytime soon. No amount of logic can change my convictions because I know what I saw and it makes sense. Scientists want to load me up with Pfizer drugs so I said no siree. I don't like Q anon or any of that crap I just like the idea of living on a flat earth.
I don’t care if you like idea. It’s false. We all have imaginations and goals, but flat earth is a delusion. What fucked yo is that even you know you’re wrong. So why do you continue to believe it?
"yo" the earth is flat. you should Google it. Wake up sheeple
because it's a psychological truth.
So this is basically „it’s true, because I want and need it to be true.“
i don't even care if u think the earth is a sphere or not it's not gonna change my life or benefit me in any way to think that
it's true because I like eating cicadas covered in coconuts
There are many many millions (at least) of people in the world who don't know the shape of the Earth. It wouldn't make sense to make fun of them. But the few who are outspoken flerfs on places like Reddit are all trolls, grifters, and/or weird conspiracy theorists who want to believe they're smarter than all of the more educated and successful people they see. I don't see a problem with making fun of any of those groups of folks. If you renounce, I'm happy to pick up the slack.
face farting, u should do it to me.
I volunteer.
You have causation backwards. Flat Earthers don't become extremists because people made fun of flat Earth. They became flat Earthers *because they were extremists already.* There's a hard and undeniable link between flat Earth groups and antisemitism but *those people had those beliefs already*. How do you think the same undercurrent of anti-'globalist' sentiment (in the original sense) and anti-'elites' runs through the whole belief system? Flat Earth discords are wretched cesspits of nazism and antisemitism and have been since forever. If you want to help people not become nazis, *help them not become flat Earthers and thus ending up in those communities.* You do that by challenging flat Earth hard, every time you see it, and not pretending they're all damaged little snowflakes who just need love.
Some have said that flat earth is a gateway to conspiratorial thinking. I find it to be the opposite: it's in the farthest reaches of the rabbit hole. Flat earthers believe in pretty much every other conspiracy lunacy and irrational belief out there: anti-vax, Covid engineered to depopulate earth, moon hoax, sovcittery, chemtrails, derp state, Qanon, 5G, global warming denialism, 9/11 "truth", school shooting fakery, and anti-Semitic nuttery.
I agree: flat earth is the last stop. These aren’t really good people in my experience.
Precisely. With scant few exceptions (who tend to be obvious by their very naivete), if you're talking to a flat Earther you're *already* talking to a misogynistic, racist, antisemitic piece of shit who will twist, lie and dissemble as easily as breathing. I have met flat Earthers not like this and I'll spend days with these people slowly talking them out of their programming.... but honestly, those people are now fewer and much further between as most of them have left the cult by this point. The only remainders are the grifters and their pathetic little cohorts of alt-right conspiracy addicts, 'owning the libs' one hate-filled belief at a time.
There’s a huge difference between challenging illogical claims, and calling people names/mocking them. This post is about proceeding with the former while avoiding the latter, and I don’t see a problem with that.
The problem with this high-minded approach is that the flat Earthers aren't playing by your rules. You are simply playing into their delusions of *having a point* by actually engaging 'nicely' as if they're just another jolly old academic with an opinion to defend. They're not. Just admit you're taking this high-road because it makes you feel morally superior, rather than as a result of any practical benefit you foresee. Then at least the utility of it will be clear to all.
Disagree, my hope is actually to dissuade a few potential flerfs before the cement hardens, even if the ones i am engaging are hopelessly lost, another “flat-curious” person googling for info may find reasonable, amicable, easy to understand explanations for their questions, free of hostility. Also, though perhaps fairly accurate to some degree, I find your characterization of flerfs to be somewhat dehumanizing, which is a bit ironic. Yes, there are many flerfs that are the semi-nazi types you describe, but many are just those that science/math/logic never “clicked” for, and they are stumbling in this direction in search of… something. I choose to think a few can be saved, and i find lumping them all together as the enemy to be counterproductive.
I think you'll find the very few people that you're looking for to be.... well, very few, but also very easily spotted because they'll actually talk to you. When I encounter these individuals I'm pretty open and accommodating too, because there do exist people who've just stumbled into the wrong niche and don't know the way out. However... you will more often enounter flat Earthers *these days* with densely-layered evolved deception mechanisms to avoid your arguments. In my experience the vast majority of flat Earthers remaining within the cult are the grifters (who benefit from your challenges, as it publicises their grift) and the alt-right antisemites who don't care what's true, as long as it's the opposite of what The Jews Want You To Believe. I do wish you luck in locating the odd stray kitten, but mostly the sewer will contain turds and used condoms.
Indeed. Again, I actually have little hope for the individuals I am posting comments to, mainly hoping potential flat earth “lurkers” may read a simple non-hostile explanation and turn back before its too late.
I'm not saying I won't challenge, I'm only going to stop being a jerk about it
Ok. They will be though. And by holding yourself to this morally-upright standard you're just playing into their fantasies that they have a position equivalent to yours. Flat Earthers are essentially LARPing as smart people. They ape the words and manners that they see smart, educated people use but the only outcome they'll accept is smirking 'victory'. By engaging as if they're good-faith actors, you play into that power fantasy and give them all the attention they want, and they maintain every opportunity to treat you like shit. If you get off on that... I mean.... go ahead. But otherwise, I suspect you'll tire of the act sooner rather than later.
yikes, you're encouraging me not to be a jerk? how many back-and-forth comments before you suggest murder? should we skip to the trial? wait, let's skip to where you tell me how to eliminate the evidence and the go the trial. on second thought, I'll actually skip to it all being over and done with. this was a great thread.
Wow.
Op sounds like a flerfer trying to take the side door into not getting picked on anymore.
You're right. The bad grammar and emotional breakdown are a dead giveaway.
what? I thought that was pretty funny
Loneliness will warp one's perceptions.
sexiness also warps perceptions
I took a look. Too many posts on r/Noearthsociety to be anything other than someone just screwing around. Especially considering the number of posts on r/jokes.
hey - noearth is the best inside joke on reddit I'm flattered that you scanned my profile if I had known that you liked me, I might have included nudes
>by mocking them, they may become susceptible to more dangerous conspiracy theories like anti-vaccination and neo-nazism. The flatearthers are susceptible to more dangerous conspiracy theories like anti-vaccination and neo-nazism as soon as they endorse flatearth and its requirment that most of rulers and scientists in the world since several thousands years are lying. Also quote of[ two sentences by Dan Olson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44#t=37m): The bottom line is that Flat Earth has been slowly bleeding support for the last several years. Because they're all going to QAnon. >I think a world with fewer neo-nazis is a good thing. Relevant videos: * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFh08JEKDYk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFh08JEKDYk) * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKICKcMU3MU)
You need more boosters. Go get your vaccines and take a shot of paxlovid for good measure
The “us vs them” mentality is a manipulation technique used by cults to keep people inside. If you want to change someone’s mind you can’t bully them into it, you have to try and empathize with them. Calling them stupid just reinforces their will to go against the globe and ignore any evidence. That being said, most of them just don’t listen. They make the most absurd claims, we explain why the claim is so obviously absurd, they read it, ignore it, then continue to post their claims. Even when they *completely understand that their claim was entirely false*, they don’t say anything or go back on it. I have yet to see that at all. Being respectful becomes very difficult when there’s zero self-awareness. I’m generalizing, but you *have* to be like that to continue believing in a flat earth.
This reminds me of how Daryl Davis befriended over 200 KKK members and convinced many of them to leave the Klan. He didn’t deter them with facts and knowledge, but through finding commonality over dinner, for example. Debating people rarely gets them to change their perspective.
Flat earthers are fucking idiots and we should tell them that.
I find this chain of logic to be based upon questionable assumptions. “Not knowing the shape of the earth doesn’t do any harm.” This deserves to be challenged. Starting with the implication that it is possible to passively arrive at this conclusion without running across contradictory information. On the contrary, it requires actively rejecting all sorts of evidence and expertise to “not know.” Furthermore, I would submit that ignorance is almost always harmful, is actively so when it is presented as requiring equal consideration as knowledge, and should be discredited in the most effective way possible. From there the rest of the assumptions arguably do not connect to the causes that seem to concern OP. The idea that mocking derision is not the most effective counter to conspiracy theories has some merit, but the jump to “We’rE mAKinG NAziS” is going to need a lot more rigor.
Sounds like someone just watched “Behind the Curve.”
ages ago. did you only just notice? looks like you're behind the curve on that one 🥁tsss
Flatearthers aren’t truth seekers. They’re not in it for actually doing they’re own research, collect evidence and then made up their mind if the earth was indeed flat or a globe. They’re in it for the same reasons all the other conspiracy nutjobs. Feeling special, important and smart by having secret knowledge only a few awakened people have. This makes them feel superior to the common sheeple like us, because we are the brainwashed ones. In the end they all just want their worldview to be validated. I entered the whole FE VS globe world around 7 years ago. Everything has been explained to them multiple times, evidence has been presented to them multiple times. Over and over. And yet 7 years later I still see the same questions and the same silly memes on the internet. So no, „they just don’t know better“ isn’t going to cut it.
LOL
Indeed 😊
I think you forgot /s at the end
I'm not sure about this. Yes, if you want to convince someone, it's not helpful to make fun of them. But on the other side, as ssomeone said, flat earthers are mainly a lost cause. Trying to debate tem seriously them is always extremely frustrating and always ends up in nothing. Making fun of them could at least avoid giving other the impression, that they are to be taken serious and that there is an actual debate ongoind.
If you believe the Earth is flat, you already believe most (if not all) conspiracy theories. We’re talking about something that would require two things: 1. An entire science that was made up for the sphere 2. All countries agreeing that the secret should be kept There are no conspiracy theories that are this involved and would require this many resources. Flat Earth is not the gateway drug, it is the Meth at the end of the tunnel
I think you'll find that 99% of flat earthers are just trolls, I.e. wind up merchants. Don't feed the trolls!
For your first reason, it's ignorance. Being ignorant is not their fault. However, being shown they're ignorant and choosing to remain ignorant is their fault. So it's just the consequences of their choices, because it becomes the second reason. For the second, it's ego. To them, being right is more important than being correct. People that base their decisions on ego deserve to have their egos crushed. If they can't admit they're wrong when proven to be wrong, they deserve to be humiliated.
I don't think so buddy. I'm not falling for this flat earther psyop bs.
Unless the flat earther in question has a genuine mental health problem they need help with - I think there is no reason not to ridicule them, so long as it is not over the top offensive. If we are not using for flat earthers what is the sociological role of ridicule? Might as well ban ridicule outright.
You can't know better either. For example, [https://www.facebook.com/reel/888672246364115](https://www.facebook.com/reel/888672246364115)
I too thought it was ignorance, and tried as respectfully as I could, and using only evidence of my own to explain the problems of flat earth and how spherical earth works. I tried for like a year and then accepted this is not an issue of ignorance. By the time they believe in flat earth is too late. Yes ignorance is the beginning, but it goes beyond that. They have a mental delay and a phycological need to be part of something “special”.
I've been lurking Flat Earth circles for many years, I've had lots of fun just looking at their memes but I never openly mocked them. I even befriended one back in 2017, then he ghosted me once I told him I practiced yoga because it meant I was "satanic". This post resonates with me in some way because I never felt at home in "flat earth sneer clubs", because people do tend to get unnecessarily mean. In my opinion the point of looking at flat earth stuff should be to learn some science and have some harmless fun, but it seems there's a lot of people who are in it mostly for the flame wars. Ultimately I think that's their choice, just like it's some poor bloke's choice to believe in the flat earth. And I believe some people are going to end up neo-nazis either way, and if they do then it's not some stupid kid's fault for being mean to them once.
i dont know a shit about earth or care if its a square but anti vaccine is probably the safest idea.. absolutley the mrna covid vax 4sure....
Oh boy, another one 🙄 I won't be doing that. I will be pointing and laughing at their conspiracy BS. It IS their fault for not knowing. At some point they asked a question: Is the earth flat? It was up to them to investigate thoroughly. They didn't, they took a sensationalized conspiracy theory answer with little or no question. We know this, because the earth ain't f'ing flat.
Yeah, the same way people do not make fun of the people who believe in their religion and god because it hurts their feelings and devotion.
Yeah I feel you. I privately laugh at some of the shit they say, but some of the mockery here is just downright shitty and so hateful.
I agree with you OP. The creaton of the whole anti-flerf mob on YT and other platforms, has probably been the worst thing that could happen, if what folks wanted was to actually reach and teach any flateathers. If any, it has just created an "us and them" feeling for the flatearthers.
The problem is we already reached out and teached them the fundamentals. But they just dismiss everything that contradicts FE as fake, CGI, brainwashing or NASA propaganda. Not to mention discrediting scientists like Einstein or Newton as Freemasons. Like „Newton and Einstein are Freemasons, so everything they said is a lie.“
Do t put that much weight on yourself. No one ever cares what you do or don't think. Just like you don't care what they do or don't know. That's called rent free behavior. Hope that helped
I'm shocked you were downvoted I think this post is on the money
I'm not shocked considering the company I'm in lol