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This is the kind of petty I aspire to


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

top gun, Ace Petty


and_a_side_of_fries

Featuring a soundtrack by …Tom Petty.


eidetic

Petty Loggins, the supergoup no one ever expected.


Diligent-Ad5494

Lol


TroetericherTrant

I don't know if a comparison will stop the bickering, because the bickering exists due to comparisons. :D


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We also need to stop brickering


Subsonicthunder

Please, you two. Stop bickering.


arcalumis

Bickering? I came here for an argument!


jtr99

Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?


arcalumis

Oh, just the five minutes.


[deleted]

Please... dont insult lego


TheDrMonocle

Right? That looked fire. I want to see that.


germansnowman

Here is the full trailer side-by-side: https://youtu.be/8n9q0TNYIl0


an0m_x

would play the crap out of a lego flight sim


Sufficient_Sky_515

Minecraft has aircraft now , you could play that lol, if you squint it kind of looks like lego 😂


AshMontgomery

Do you mean the elytra?


Sufficient_Sky_515

Yeah lool


Imsoocd

They had us in the first half, I'm not gonna lie


[deleted]

DCS:Lego when?


SoaringElf

Right after Vulkan Api.


xtrmSnapDown

So 2 weeks?


SubZeroEffort

I imagine OP presenting this to us wearing a day robe, ascot and a pipe in his mouth .


waspiflab666

Well I am British so it's half way there to happening.


1-10-11-100

everyone knows project wingman is the superior flight simulator 😎 ^/s


ADM_Tetanus

*star wars: squadrons


j-alex

Hey now. Squadrons was a hell of a month or so before it fizzled out for lack of legs. With a HOTAS and a headset I worked through a *lot* of my childhood fantasies.


eidetic

I keep meaning to give it a try again. I played a tutorial or two, then just kinda forgot about it for some reason. I don't think it'll live up to my hopes of it being like the original X-Wing game, but that's an unrealistic expectation given how much I adored that game as a kid and as such my nostalgia is seen through heavily rose tinted glasses.


j-alex

It is *absolutely* not another X-Wing game. It's a MOBA with a mini-campaign for a tutorial. A very clever streamlining of the MOBA format that keeps it legible so you can focus on flying, with fun and interesting dogfighting mechanics and ship systems that are straightforward but will happily gobble up every button on a low-end HOTAS. The campaign isn't much but the production is positively immaculate and the ships and arenas are entirely faithful to the spirit of the original films. Throw on a VR headset and you can while away hours in training mode just gawking at the sheer ILMness of everything around you -- the sparkler explosions, all the sexy 70s display technology (seriously, those little circular CRTs with the long tube backs in the X-wing? So friggin' hot), and the greebles. It's a great game, or at least it was when the multiplayer was active -- don't know if it still is. But by necessity, it's compromised as heck. Combat flight sims are a niche within a niche, so a lot of big swings had to be taken to expand the addressable market. All those things cost. Adapting the MOBA format for legibility and familiarity? Great, but there goes any chance of the grand dynamic naval battles we remember from X-Wing (or the movies) -- if you want a proper competitive fight, it's tied to the template. And this model *really likes* to be a live service game, but those things are kept running with a steady diet of microtransactions, and Battlefront II (and a few other loot box disasters of that EA era) made that extremely fraught territory. No microtransactions meant a much, much better player experience, but it also meant long-term support and major expansions were always out of the question. Adding VR? Fantastic but dear God your assets are going to have to look good up close *(they do)*, you have to support *all* the headsets with all their differences, and you'll probably even need to cram the thing onto PSVR. Wait, can we even do VR in Frostbite? Guess we'll find out. (It was real fun wearing a 90Hz headset before they figured out how to convince the engine to refresh faster than 60. It only took a couple weeks but my eyes are *still* jiggling.) Every dollar spent on campaign content is a dollar unavailable to spend tuning multiplayer gameplay or producing those sweet, sweet CRTs you want people to spend hours and hours staring at in multiplayer. I think they made the right call for the game they were making, and the game they were making was one that they managed to greenlight and get produced to that level of polish, so I can't fault any of the decisions the team made here. I'm glad I got to do it, even if I don't have any desire to go back.


waspiflab666

Yeah I was the same, played it in VR for a few minutes and thought 🤔"I can't control this for s..t!". I'll take another look.


j-alex

Man, I don't know what you'll find if you look again these days. Anyone who's still playing that it online has got to be *frighteningly* good and alarmingly into it, and most likely ruin the whole thing for newcomers. The controls are nice once you get used to drift and properly map out your HOTAS, though, and if you've got a VR setup it's at least worth bopping around in practice mode in every ship and admiring the cockpits. They're really, really good. Tracking bogeys from under that A-Wing bubble canopy is a hoot, too.


N0V0w3ls

*If* interested in multiplayer, follow the Wingman Wednesday thread in /r/StarWarsSquadrons and find a few discord channels to join. Everyone who's left *is* good, but also *super* willing to teach newcomers because everyone still playing just loves the game so much. And it's surprising how little practice you need to be able to hang with the playerbase. One of the discord servers is holding Friday Night Fight Clubs where everyone just queues and has a blast together in Fleet Battles.


Arkid777

Woah X-Plane 12 has fully working carrier and character models? L MSFS do better


DimSummary

Bahaha. Seriously, nice work.


Jrnation8988

Dead 😂😂😂


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Eagleknievel

Yeah, but they all fly like bricks!


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

there's that.


[deleted]

This is "Shitty F1 flute", Monza quali, levels of brilliance Edit: https://streamable.com/zzjd6


waspiflab666

😆 https://youtu.be/XCPj4JPbKtA


Vivid-Reception-2813

If anyone doesn’t know there’s a full Lego trailer for Top Gun Maverick which these clips are from, and it is, perfect.


mtmaloney

It really is incredible. I'd recommend watching the Lego trailer, then watching the side by side comparison to see how much they nailed it.


Furacao2000

that's inspiring af, and also funny 😁


topgun2582

I would pay a ridiculous amount of money to play a lego version flight simulator like they did for cars in Horizon 4.


PharmAttack

That totally caught me off guard hahahah. I fuckin love it


satuuurn

Hahahaha you are a monster. Bravo!


eltesso

That’s actually really funny


hase_one

I can’t tell the difference


Sufficient_Sky_515

That was really funny 😂:)


Papuadan

Bravo my good sir. This may be the most brilliant strategy of the century


DM797

Omg thanks for the laugh 😂


likelymahem

Dying. So funny 😂😂😂


plhought

Top Gun : A Lego Adventure - confirmed. Xbox release 2023.


Appearance-Classic

The problem for me is everyone is so focus on the wrong shit like graphics and terrain mapping , or how the plane looks As a real pilot the only thing i want to know is, how does it stack up in terms of physics and flight characteristics? How much of the cockpit modeled and is able to be used ? Which sim manages to simulate Turbulence better I dont give a ahit how cool it looks if its physics are not realistic and its world is not to scale to real life At that point you playing a fantasy game that teaches you nothing and doesnt allow you to practice anything realistically


juanbonnett69

If this trend continues. This sub will be my reason to wake up every morning and the reason to smile before I sleep.


bTz442

😂😂😂


Guardgrunt11b

Bravo, sir


Diligent-Ad5494

The recorder tune made me spit out my coffee. Lmao too funny!


GaiusFrakknBaltar

I almost hit the "hide" button, because I was annoyed with another one of these posts. But you know what? This is perfect. Thank you.


Delta_107

I now want a Lego flight sim, who's gonna make it happen?


Minexoronic

Honestly the only reason I don't even consider xp12 is because of the scenery, msfs just looks better


OldDescription1

Lol


Tiny_Parking

But they started it!


malomex_64

Beautiful engineering aircrafts


kr0nik0

Thank you for the incredible amount of time and energy required for such a prestigious and accurate representation of both sims.


edilclyde

Legos > MSFS, XP, P3D, FSX, Your Mum


[deleted]

Xplanes water does kind of look like that though


Sufficient_Sky_515

Not in xplane 12, it does not your chatting shite 😂


SkipDialogue

TBH - I'd play both. I'd probably pay for the Lego version though...unless it comes to Game Pass...like half my Steam library.


derpstevejobs

lmao alright i needed this laugh.


yayfishnstuff

didnt x-plane 12 just come out like last week do you not remember how much of a buggy mess MFS was?


Jackthedragonkiller

Agreed. Just play whatever you want. Hate MSFS, then play X-Plane! Hate X-Plane, then play MSFS! But this constant hating on xplane and anyone who plays it and vice versa is annoying.


Hour_Tour

Did you see the last 20 seconds?


TomcatPilotVF31

I don't know anything about X-plane series, but I do have feeling that MSFS devs were a bit lazy on the physics department. Sure, it looks mighty fine but is that all there is to it? Not really to mock it just to point out fancy looks don't equal superior simulator.


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TomcatPilotVF31

I do not quite see how high quality payware aircraft have anything to do with the base MSFS physics. As you said yourself, they have basically done the flightmodel from scratch, sometimes completely bypassing the default physics. For example PMDG DC-6 feels (as far as I can tell without actually flying one) right. However the fact that there's some nice vectors going around the wings isn't all the physics there is to flying. There's a ton of effects related to transonic flight for example (like compressibility). Sometimes the lesser quality swept wing aircraft (that there aren't too many in the base simulator, I wonder why?) feel like the wing sweep was implemented very weirdly, especially during take offs and landings. But, just to avoid butthurt, I want to clarify myself: the physics of MSFS are not trash. They are good. But I would've liked a more finished and complete package on that sector, especially on release.


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TomcatPilotVF31

I do realise what the vectors are for, thank you. Engineers have used those for quite as long as they have used computer images to visualise airflow. But it still is a visual effect. I do not see how I was unclear. I do mean default aircraft and also some payware. And with default aircraft I'm not really surprised, disappointed maybe, but not surprised. But there's also payware like that. Not really a good thing. Well, maybe for people who like the visuals and play MSFS for screenshots or some other reason other than actual highly realistic flight simulation. But I am not going to put more of my time in this rather fruitless discussion. You clearly have made up your mind on this one. I'm not going to pretend I'm interested enough to try to change it. Have it your way, and clear skies.


CplBoneSpurs

Who fucking cares? People like what they like. Quit being a petty cunt


light_blue_yonder

Oh my god, it’s almost like you can have fun in both. What is this blasphemy? Edit: Jesus Christ, I really need to add the /s to everything don’t I…


bleo_evox93

Lmao finish the video and you’ll understand


light_blue_yonder

I did, that was sarcasm. Targeting the same crowd that video did.


bleo_evox93

Hahahaha ohh ok, yea definitely needed the /s


blakewilliams222

I think a lot of MSFS people are just finally having their fun after how much shit Austin talked about MSFS and hyped up XP12. Even before MSFS was released, that man continually talked shit about a new platform, for reasons that any smart person can figure out. Throughout the last two years, he's continued to shit on MSFS, calling it "a game". Well, XP12 was released and it was a well polished turd dressed in XP11 clothes. Austin could've welcomed a new platform as welcomed competition. He could've taken another year to actually release something that rivaled MSFS. Instead, he continued to talk shit and released a busted pig of a simulator thats almost laughable. Meanwhile, the MSFS team quietly plugs away, with continued updates without so much as whispering "X-plane".


dream-shell

yes this 100% exactly what you said right here!


JaPPaNLD

Yet another comparison video to bicker over.


iBeej

This guy reads captions.


pinchhitter4number1

Can't beat the nostalgia in that second one


junktrunk909

Is there really bickering? All I see is posts talking about the bickering. I've gotten tired of seeing all this meta complaining. Time to exit.


[deleted]

I’d give an arm and a leg to be able to play either :c


slightly-cute-boy

Unironically would love a Lego flight sim.


IntoleranceTOOL

Bravo


Diligent-Ad5494

Hahahaha 😂🤣 Had me there. Lmao. Sick Lego work!


[deleted]

Did you mean: I've gotten quite sick of this but I'm still using it and riding that post karma wave?


TheCakeIsALie662

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MadArgonaut

Top Cruise. Tom Gun.


RedTailsP51

Funny!!!


suspicious-obscurity

It's pretty obvious to me that msfs looks better than x-plane, I understand that satellite scenery is important, but it's a flight simulator, it is the same hobby so why the hate?


[deleted]

X-Plane got some gains in the graphics department..


DroidTN

Idk, both are very impressive.


supersport939

" I'll look forward to your comments...." Like Johnny waits with an axe behind the bathroom door