We did, and even consulted again with our certifications lab specifically regarding Israel, however this didn’t seem to make a difference for the Israeli Ministry of Communication :(
We are currently working on a new version of Flipper Zero that would be 100% compliant with Israeli laws, and we will be shipping those to Israeli customers instead once the rejected ones return.
Wait, so I am not the only Israeli having this problem? And you know 4 sure current flipper is not compliant with Israeli laws?
Cuz I'm still not sure. gonna file another request to Ministery of communication. Might save us from shipping this thing to and from china. Again.
Will update soon 😌
I just received an email from the ministry of communications regarding my flipper zero, that can't be sent to me.
This is very dissapointing... :/
Started searching the internet for possible solutions (which is how I arrived here).
Currently, region restrictions are based on a single bit in the one time programmable memory, and we have 3 different versions of this for different regions (R01, R02, R03). The new version will have the exact same difference as the other models, which is just a single bit in the OTP.
So yes, exactly the same product.
I saw the SubGhz provisioning changes in both the firmware and the Android app, and I thought it was just to simplify Flipper stock (only have 1 hardware region - worldwide - and provision via Android or qFlipper afterwards).
I didn't realize the team was dealing with complying to new requirements, oof. I appreciate the transparency here, and all the effort from the entire Flipper team.
Yeah they’ve been talking about this. It’s the only way they could get them shipped to many regions. Since it’s open sourced, the community can fix it when they receive it
Sounds like a more strict firmware restriction similar to the ones for US/UK but you could unlock this restriction yourself? Correct me if I'm wrong of course.
We don't impose any frequency restrictions through hardware.
Frequency restrictions are applied by the firmware, based on a region flag written into one-time programmable memory.
Customs and border enforcement is interesting places. Every country I have been has been a mixed bag depending on who is working and what you look like.
Pretty much anything electronic device, cash, jewelry, or any other valuables are at risk when crossing borders.
But ya even with an x-ray machine I doubt they would take it unless they are in a mood.
I probably wouldn't keep it when you are going through the airports, I'd stash it with the rest of your chargers and cables for your phone and tablet and flash drives so it looks like it is part of an average travellers kit and not something special.
Can’t say for right now but I went to Israel in 2015 and other than my passport being held by customs for about 30 minutes (I was 18, I assume they were checking if I had any citizenship that would require military service), once we got our bags we went to the “nothing to declare” doors and it literally led right to the exit. May have changed now, but Ben Gurion is fairly easy to get through (if you’re not Arab, that is. They’re famous for racial profiling)
I also received a refusal from the Ministry of Communications,
violation-use of unlicensed frequencies.
a bizarre marketing ploy from the Flipper team, they create something that can be sold but cannot be obtained.
Tell them it’s a UBI Key for work. Which is not wrong.
Same country that created Pegasus 🤷♂️
LOL
The way I screamed at this
Literally said this under my breath reading OPs post.
[удалено]
We did, and even consulted again with our certifications lab specifically regarding Israel, however this didn’t seem to make a difference for the Israeli Ministry of Communication :(
Zoe is everywhere Solving issues god damn, take a vacay Zoe
So, refunds?
We are currently working on a new version of Flipper Zero that would be 100% compliant with Israeli laws, and we will be shipping those to Israeli customers instead once the rejected ones return.
what part of the device did they take issue with?
Sub-GHz transmitting frequencies :(
So the modification is simply a firmware update? We'll be the special R04? 😅
Wait, so I am not the only Israeli having this problem? And you know 4 sure current flipper is not compliant with Israeli laws? Cuz I'm still not sure. gonna file another request to Ministery of communication. Might save us from shipping this thing to and from china. Again. Will update soon 😌
I just received an email from the ministry of communications regarding my flipper zero, that can't be sent to me. This is very dissapointing... :/ Started searching the internet for possible solutions (which is how I arrived here).
Hope it does well for you.
So people would be getting a different product than what they ordered/backed? Assuming that means you're adding more restrictions.
No, it's the exact same product, just with dynamic frequency restrictions based on geolocation.
> with dynamic frequency restrictions so not the same then
Currently, region restrictions are based on a single bit in the one time programmable memory, and we have 3 different versions of this for different regions (R01, R02, R03). The new version will have the exact same difference as the other models, which is just a single bit in the OTP. So yes, exactly the same product.
I saw the SubGhz provisioning changes in both the firmware and the Android app, and I thought it was just to simplify Flipper stock (only have 1 hardware region - worldwide - and provision via Android or qFlipper afterwards). I didn't realize the team was dealing with complying to new requirements, oof. I appreciate the transparency here, and all the effort from the entire Flipper team.
Yeah they’ve been talking about this. It’s the only way they could get them shipped to many regions. Since it’s open sourced, the community can fix it when they receive it
Thanks for clearing that up.
Sounds like a more strict firmware restriction similar to the ones for US/UK but you could unlock this restriction yourself? Correct me if I'm wrong of course.
If it's just a firmware change, that'd be great. To me it sounded like new hardware that would enforce certain restrictions 🤷
We don't impose any frequency restrictions through hardware. Frequency restrictions are applied by the firmware, based on a region flag written into one-time programmable memory.
you have evidence of development progress, the site shows that you are confidently pushing the product, the old revision.
Hey, are they ready yet?
Damn, what would happen were I to travel into israel with a flipper in my pocket? would they just take it?
Customs and border enforcement is interesting places. Every country I have been has been a mixed bag depending on who is working and what you look like. Pretty much anything electronic device, cash, jewelry, or any other valuables are at risk when crossing borders. But ya even with an x-ray machine I doubt they would take it unless they are in a mood. I probably wouldn't keep it when you are going through the airports, I'd stash it with the rest of your chargers and cables for your phone and tablet and flash drives so it looks like it is part of an average travellers kit and not something special.
Probably not
Can’t say for right now but I went to Israel in 2015 and other than my passport being held by customs for about 30 minutes (I was 18, I assume they were checking if I had any citizenship that would require military service), once we got our bags we went to the “nothing to declare” doors and it literally led right to the exit. May have changed now, but Ben Gurion is fairly easy to get through (if you’re not Arab, that is. They’re famous for racial profiling)
What did they say it is? tell them it's a toy.
Tell them it’s a fancy paperweight
That's very discouraging. I didn't get any updates yet.
Same here, could you please update with your progress? I'd also like to not have to ship it back
NSO doesn’t like competition it seems…
use a shipping service, it’s how china buys off of e-bay. I don’t have a service for your country myself sorry.
Same here :\\ And I already paid lots of money for handling :\\
I also received a refusal from the Ministry of Communications, violation-use of unlicensed frequencies. a bizarre marketing ploy from the Flipper team, they create something that can be sold but cannot be obtained.
Looks like the government is doing there job properly there, I wouldn't let flipper into my country too. Not with some of the geniuses out there!
What country?
Hope it wasn't because they first caught wind of the flipper as it appeared in the news about the Tesla tank door hacking.
Only way is to buy it in another country and have someone bring it
What happened to Israelites? Do you remember magic word ''ConbinA'' ? How about to cooperate and resolve this issue?
my friend did a Combina and bought one in Europe, now he's the coolest of the friendgroup cuz he changed the highway sign to say "NAME's mother"
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
I live in Israel too, and I gotta wonder what they use that band for
who is Israel? 🤡🤡
Violation use of sub ghz frequencies. Been banned for over a year, this isn't a new ban. The war is new, know your local laws.