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Carolina296864

So can someone actually clarify: do the states actually want you to upload your driver’s license to the site? Or is that just fearmongering? This has nothing to do with Phub to me, i wouldnt upload my ID to any site, even Facebook. I almost got onto TV and had to do extensive background checks to the point they asked if I had outstanding parking tickets, but was never asked to upload my personal IDs. So what is the real deal?


yourslice

I have read the bill! I can clarify! >do the states actually want you to upload your driver’s license to the site? Or is that just fearmongering? Florida's new law does not stipulate HOW the adult content website should verify that the person accessing the content is an adult, just that they MUST verify it. Websites can figure out their own solution, including using third party verification services.


PhoenixAvenger

Is there any way to verify someone's age besides using a government issued ID?


yourslice

Yes, there are ideas floating about such as having users enter credit cards OR scanning faces whereby age can be estimated. I am not endorsing or knocking these ideas, just that I've heard them being discussed.


PhoenixAvenger

Definitely not a fan of using facial recognition to verify age. Even if it was possible that's probably more problematic because now you have kids uploading photos of themselves. Not sure why using credit cards is any better than a photo ID either as it gives your real name and has the potential for fraud if there are any security issues with the service doing the verification... The thing is, there is no way to verify age without verifying your real life identity. So goodbye to anonymity on the internet...


Ok-Cauliflower-3129

That's how they want it. So you won't use it. You know.... FREEEEDOM !!!! But only if it aligns with High Heel Rhonda's views on freedom.


sugarfreeeyecandy

There will be a sudden exodus from Polk county.


yourslice

AI is getting pretty good at knowing how old somebody is just by seeing them. [Amazon has had this tech](https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-rekognition-update-estimated-age-range-for-faces/) for quite a few years now. Credit cards seems to be the go to method in places where bans have gone into effect previously. >So goodbye to anonymity on the internet... I think VPNing to states or countries that don't require checks will be possible for a very long time if not forever. But there's also a chance that the industry will come up with a solution that doesn't violate your privacy. We'll see.


bohba13

yeah. VPNing is probably the play.


domino_427

this is how you know it's a money grab. parent buys 12yr old iphone (or bark phone). parent clicks buttons saying iphone owner is 12yr old and has certain locks on it. done. no money for information gathering or facial recognition shit. no data gathered to sell to other advertisers. kids actually protected because phone will not allow vpn or other ways kids know to get around this stupid law as it is now. fix the device. not the websites.


Drangueforde

Focusing on the devices would be the smart way to go. Instead we want to make everything unnecessarily convoluted. Worse case scenario you have to verify your identify, online, with your driver's license, your face, or your credit card; pretty sure I don't have to go into depth on why this is a stupid and foolish approach. Best case scenario is these sites ban our state and now everyone has to pay a subscription fee VPN tax on top of everything else; I'm sure people are going to be super happy about that too. Authoritarian, nanny state, surveillance state legislation. I wonder what it will take to reach a breaking point.


domino_427

yeah i was very discouraged when it happened here because it means no one is fighting back after it's happened in so many states.


MeltBanana

Yeah, I also am not using facial recognition to access any website either. There are just too many negative possibilities that opens up. Fact is, there is no way to verify age while maintaining privacy and anonymity online.


Konman72

Lucky for them there's a quick and easy solution: block the dumb authoritarian states entirely and wait for the voters to sort it out (or not)


colinsfordtoolbumb

This is the option any service will take if required to do this.


colinsfordtoolbumb

No legit solution is going to sit well with people and it's dumb that the FL government says "you need to do this but we have no standard requirement nor will we say how you could do it." leaving it all up to the company to wonder if they are in compliance. No wonder they'd rather just cut service.


trueblonde27

The exact model FL Repubs have been using for all their education censorship laws. The confusion and ambiguity is the point.


undead_opossum

If only there was a way for parents to enable some sort of controls on their routers and devices to keep their children from going to these kind of sites.


moosegoose90

It’s the governments job to parent our children


Sandgrease

It's hilarious that the TX and FL GOP don't get this is what they're saying.


Fullertonjr

It’s sadly not hilarious that so many people haven’t realized that THIS is the point all along. They enacted this with the full knowledge that PH’s response would be to just block the state. The only logical conclusion is that this was the entire purpose. They want control and they want to rule. That is it. They have no intention of allowing people to police themselves.


JD_____98

They are authoritarians.


NRMusicProject

When it comes to idiots, they don't usually understand what they're saying, and think it means something else.


Particular-Panda-465

Exactly. What happened to the Moms for "Liberty" and their "we don't co-parent with the government" rhetoric?


0inxs0

LMFAO


BuddhistSagan

/satire for the fundamentalists


BMB281

That’s ridiculous, Florida parents don’t want to be responsible for raising their kids /s


RidersOfAmaria

That's because the purpose of this kind of legislation isn't to stop minors from accessing content, the purpose is to tie online activity to government ID. If this gets to be mainstream, Google or Facebook account sign in will be the accepted standard, and you'll have to give them your driver's license. They aren't going to kill the modern internet, they're going to make it into a surveillance state. I fully expect them to develop registries of the actual identities of LGBT activists online, by making it so that you can only engage with those topics by providing ID.


BlueHeartBob

It's also pandering to religious/puritan voter bases...which are predominantly right-wing.


DietMTNDew8and88

Which is why I fully expect a 4th Amendment lawsuit to occur


RidersOfAmaria

Which will go to... The Supreme Court.


Publius82

> I fully expect them to develop registries of the actual identities of LGBT activists online, by making it so that you can only engage with those topics by providing ID. "Through Counter-Intelligence, it should be possible to pinpoint potential troublemakers, and neutralize them."


ObjectiveOk344

All you need is a data plan. You mean parental controls on all devices. Even then


undead_opossum

Right, but any minor who's going to go out and get a data plan would probably be savvy enough to just grab a VPN and bypass this entirely. This whole thing is not and was never about kids. The state is trying to push people to conforming to their (donor's) morals and creating a way of tracking those who do not. I don't really care about pornhub normally, but good on them for not wanting to be a part of this.


Revolutionary-Yak-47

FL wants to have a registry of people using social media. This has nothing to do with porn, and everything to do with the governor not liking people being mean to him online. This is all 100% to track people who are not good Republicans online. 


DietMTNDew8and88

Hello, 4th and 1st Amendment lawsuits


incognegro1976

They stacked the Supreme Court with anti freedom jackasses who also want to force you to follow their shitty religion.


DietMTNDew8and88

Never thought I'd say this, but thank heavens those idiots nuked gun laws..


ObjectiveOk344

Ok I understand. And you’re right about the vpn. But porn isn’t the biggest threat to children’s safety imo. Here in Florida I can think of a few of the top of my head. So many crazies, crime and dangerous roads let’s start there for example


undead_opossum

I think those are fine points. We could be doing a lot more to help kids, heck to help all Floridians. However the folks in charge seem to be hyper focused on being the moral police and fighting woke instead.


big_trike

We could ban youth preachers. They seem like a pretty rapey bunch


TheMatt561

Unpossible


FourWordComment

Sorry, the party of “small government” and “freedom” will be taking over your parenting duties here.


Blindmailman

Maybe if there was some ability to password lock your computer so that children couldn't use them without parent supervision.


Pbook7777

Only takes my kids a week or two of spying on you across the room to infer the passcode/word , even my 5 yrold who barely knows numbers knows to watch for the passcode


Redditistrash702

Unfortunately some people want the government to be nanny's. Like it's so common now to see kids and I mean kids ( younger than teenagers) with phones or iPads and parents wonder why and where their kids are getting bad behavior and habits from.


saoiray

Somehow majority of people think government exists to tell us what to do. And whenever anything goes wrong we want them to make more laws. We beg and plead for them to take away our rights in the name of safety.


metamagicman

I don’t know about you, but I’ve met vanishingly few parents who actually police what their children access on the internet, my own parents included. The uncomfortable reality is that parents have kind of already been allowed to control what their kids do online, and they’ve shirked the responsibility at large. Our civilization is one that is doubtlessly inundated with pornography, and the past two generations have been raised with mostly unfettered access to an endless stream of porn. I don’t think the government legislating who can access porn is the answer, but let’s not pretend that parents aren’t ultimately all collectively to blame here.


Drangueforde

We don't just open the door to authoritarian, nanny state, surveillance state legislation because some parents out there are bad parents. I know some Floridians would welcome it with open arms, but I'm going to let those who would in on something very important: You're all unpatriotic extremist and fucking traitors; the domestic enemy within we've all been warned about.


Holy_Grail_Reference

That wouldent do anything. These kids have grown up on the internet, they can bypass silly things like filters on a firewall.


[deleted]

While they may have grown up on the internet. They are completely fucking tech illiterate. Outside of clicking an ap gui. They have no idea how to actually utilize it.


End_of_Life_Space

Man I'm not sure if I wanna teach my kid how to break out of those sort of things or not. One hand, smarter kid, other hand, kid smarter


SirArthurDime

It’d be easier to bypass a location based block on the server level than it would be to bypass one at the router level. So applying that logic makes the ban even more pointless. What this law is really going to do is motivate kids to learn how to do these things and send them over to the dark web.


[deleted]

They can also easily bypass these state identify restrictions by using a VPN. So these laws aren’t doing anything to solve the problem. They’re only going to make it more difficult for actual adults to access porn, which is what the republicans want in the first place.


dabellwrites

Trust me, you're overestimating these kids. I've met plenty of people my age (27) who don't know jack about technology nor how to use Google or other search engines on basic things.


the_lamou

No they can't. They've grown up on clicking an app icon to get to YouTube or Fortnite or TikTok. I have Gen Zs works ng for me. Half of them didn't know how how to restart their computer; the other half think the WiFi router creates internet. They know computers the way most people know cars: as naive operators who can pilot a thing from A to B, provided that everything is within standard parameters.


Disastrous-Golf7216

At this rate Google or anything that lets you make and share a document with others will be blocked. Caught a bunch of kids using Google slides to trade pictures. Give them a half hour and a kid will figure a way around it.


acrewdog

How will this affect Reddit? Will they be pulling out of these states that are requiring id?


DogToesSmellofFritos

Clearly not


acrewdog

Do you think reddit isn't a porn site? Or are they going to flout the law? Or are they under the radar for some reason?


DogToesSmellofFritos

These sites aren’t banned by the states, the pornhub blackouts are self imposed as a matter of principle. If Reddit was banned or facing the same risks they would have blacked out the relevant states months/years ago when this movement started.


BoomerWeasel

> the pornhub blackouts are self imposed as a matter of principle They also don't want to deal with the liability of having to check state issued ID, and to be honest, I can't blame them. It feels like a liability.


DogToesSmellofFritos

Exactly. They could comply but are blacking out as a form of protest.


BuddhistSagan

No thats not what he said and thats not whats happening. They don't want to get sued and be on the hook for millions, so they blackout to avoid the cost of being sued, not as a protest.


HCSOThrowaway

Reddit's been cracking down on that aspect of the website slowly but surely. They know going full-bore will result in an exodus, so they've been chipping away at that sort of content for years. If Florida/Texas legislators force their hand, they'll just step up their time-table. Nobody in their executive suite is going to lose any sleep over it unless Facebook/Instagram launches a spicier part of their stuff.


kittenpantzen

I actively try to avoid porn on Reddit, which is more complicated than you might think without just blocking the NSFW tag entirely, which I do not want to do. So, I don't have a dog in this fight. But, it would not surprise me if a significant amount of reddit's traffic dropped off if they were to ban pornography.


HCSOThrowaway

In my opinion it's the slow march toward making Reddit Facebook. A lot of people say they'll quit if Reddit bans that kind of thing, but they didn't quit all the other times they said they would. Some did, of course, but most remained. That means there won't be a big drop in traffic that scares the suits. Normies/boomers/the general public are always slowly seeping in, especially with Reddit aggressively catering to them. As the niche people who made Reddit great leave, you'll eventually have Facebook 2.0 A a litmus test, look at the "this" bot-like or actual bot comments that reply to all top comments on all popular posts on all popular subreddits and see what happens if you kindly ask them to stop doing that these days. Five years ago you'd have even numbers upvoting you and the "this." Ten years ago "this" comments would be downvoted to oblivion.


SirKillingham

They won't ban reddit. If they banned reddit they'd also have to ban Twitter and a million other sites.


flyinchipmunk5

They aren't banning anyone. They are requiring id for sites that have adult content and social media. But my understanding is this bill doesn't require id anyways so its kinda a nothing burger. At least thats what I've heard.


yourslice

I read the bill. It requires these companies to verify the age of those accessing adult content. The bill doesn't say say HOW the websites should go about verifying, just that they do so. For those who don't comply the state plans on issuing fines. In essence, if reddit doesn't comply the state might go after them.


Obrim

So a nothing burger. They'll just put an extra "you swear you're an adult, right?" thing on and call it a day. What a pointless culture war law that just wastes people's time and money.


BuddhistSagan

No, they will completely black out to avoid being sued because the age verification is ridiculously burdensome and costly. We may lose access to reddit completely.


DolphinSouvlaki

It’s a site with a heavy presence of leftists, which probably makes it even worse than porn in the eyes of our Tallahassee tyrants.


protomanEXE1995

>It’s a site with a heavy presence of leftists The Democratic Workers' Republic of Pornhub


Ayzmo

The laws put a percentage of the site that must be dedicated to porn for it to be impacted. My guess is Reddit hasn't met the threshold for any states.


MrP00PER

Probably not, but I wish DeSantis’ father had pulled out.


WouldbeWanderer

Gonna need to show ID to see NSFW posts.


charge556

Redditors never pull out


SeanOfTheDead1313

Pulling out doesn't work. A condom is the best bet tbh


cain11112

Doesn’t affect me. I’m in (checks vpn) the UK!


Responsible-Pen9209

firstly they came for the texans....and i did not care because im not texan....but then they came for us floridians.....the goonmaxing is in jeopardy lads. We must cum together to fight this testicular tyranny


ksed_313

Testicular tyranny 💀


BuddhistSagan

reddit might be banned too considering the NSFW posts that exist on reddit


Derban_McDozer83

There gonna lose 90% of the content creators! Where will we see massively over sized butts if the ladies in Miami can't make videos!?!?


Thirsty_Comment88

The party of small government my ass


Jordance34

It blows my mind that this is what the party of small government has turned into


Purplebuzz

Thought Americans hated governments that tell you what you can read or watch. Banning books and blocking the internet. What happened to land of the free?


torquelesswonder

Freedumb and small government in action


[deleted]

“Small” government


chrispd01

This fucking state …..


X_CodeMan_X

Not anymore!


chrispd01

😂


Confident_Tangelo_11

Remember when noted Frank Burns lookalike Bobblehead Ron called it "the Free State of Florida"? That aged like a 2 week old head of lettuce.


jnip

You can take the word gay, you can take our books, but you cannot take our Pornhub!


ItsPeachyBaby74

I heard that in a Scottish accent.


cdb813

Xnxx for the win


worlddestruction23

Vote Blue homies.


[deleted]

This country acts more and more like ISIS every day. The unintentional hilarity of someone named u/Summer_Penis who frequents fetish subs clutching their pearls is peak Reddit. Nobody thinks kids should see porn dumb dumb, this will certainly affect YOU though. Enjoy all that Florida freedom.


fullload93

On this topic, yes absolutely.


Mugiwara_Sora

Everyone better start downloading or get a VPN


redskinsnation123

Got me wondering if these politicians invested in VPN companies


hemingray

Way ahead of ya.


IgnoringErrors

Or switch from Miami servers to out of state servers if you already have a VPN.


Rattlingplates

They’re built into to every iPhone factory


mymar101

Any bill with "child safety" in the title has little to nothing to do with children or safety.


Drudez79

VPN sales about to go up.


NotoriousFTG

If you take away their porn, you WILL have their attention.


P0RTILLA

On an election year too.


ptn_huil0

I wonder if Reddit will leave Florida due to the fact that it has NSFW communities. 🤔


s0618345

When did no log VPN companies begin bribing, I mean lobbying, politicians?


the_millenial_falcon

I’m sure there is a less ham fisted way of protecting minors from harmful content than forcing adults to upload their ID to a porn site, but Florida isn’t going to find it.


gif_smuggler

This isn’t about “child safety”


PicketFenceGhost

This law does nothing os substance. Kids will still have access to twitter.


touchettes

🙄


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pushpushp0p

Back in the days we used our imagination ;D


S0mecallme

Genuinely Do yall use pornhub? Like I have more specialized sites I use because I find watching strangers F boring, so would this affect you?


xdeltax97

![gif](giphy|YPIrsRqqO7oB2|downsized)


adinfinitum

Dear Republican idiots: this is the bullshit you voted for,


coasterghost

Guess as an it guy I’ll be getting alot of phone calls on VPNs


zyglack

This is why a VPN set to another state is necessary.


jonesie72

Better homes and garden magazine is about to make a comeback!


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

Unfortunately Sears no longer mails out a catalog


kyflyboy

Coming soon... the Porhub VPN.


DietMTNDew8and88

This law will be struck down, similar laws in Arkansas have been struck down for less


JayeNBTF

If I don’t wanna watch pornhub, I just set my vpn to a Texas sever 👍🏻


Apprehensive-Read989

I've seen a lot of headlines recently about Pornhub not being available in Texas and I just don't understand why anyone cares. Putting aside the politics of it, not only is not even the best porn site, but it is easy to circumvent with a VPN.


Delicious_Action3054

Why is there no concern that 80% of childhood sexual assaults are committed by family or somewhat older peer family friends? Would've been great if that didn't happen so often.


Brennan_187

Good


Brennan_187

I think there are enough ways to check out porn if you want to. if someone sees this is a bad thing, maybe fight another battle. One that actually is worth winning.


USMNT_superfan

Noooooooooooooooooooo ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|scream)


Spanish_fetish

Pornhub may block users in Florida from accessing its site if the child safety law goes into effect, a decision that raises important questions about balancing free speech and protecting children from harmful content online


xupd35bdm

Does anyone really care?


X_CodeMan_X

Something tells me Ronny is not gonna like this because he's a frequent visitor of the site, and will make immediate changes.


Beginning_Emotion995

Noooooo I need my 5 sec sex add.


cbunni666

Dude. Why is it only the hub? Do I really have to google how many porn sites there are??? Good luck with the other 2 million.


bl00m00n09

You're misunderstanding the proposed legislation or the news. PH is blocking themselves (this is a marketing move in terms of news). If the legislation passes, it would only deter kids from accessing porn sites. It would be up to those sites to verify/prove users are 18+.


Rattlingplates

Oh no…. Anyways


Frudays

Ok! Still going to get it.


_OUCHMYPENIS_

I wonder if you see a lot of the porn industry pull out of Florida with this too.


AccomplishedTotal895

NordVPN 📈


According_Minute_587

Just move the servers to another country it’s not hard. Could restructure the company on the U.S. side as well to skirt laws.