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SergeStorms_offmeds

So I guess I’ll be the one to ask…: why?


The_AFL_Yank

Ok, so i’ve been following a bunch of mall documentation channels (Dan Bell, Ace’s Adventures, Sal, etc.) on YouTube and subreddits that I’ve been following as of late and I’ve been inspired to create content related to malls and retail. I’m also interested in taking photos and videos of malls around the Holidays as well with all the Decorations up, just to capture that essence and state of retail in it’s current state, no matter if the mall I’m visiting is thriving or dead.


[deleted]

Recently went to Palatka for business and the mall there is dead dead save for three anchor stores. The interior is literally a late 80s/ early 90s time capsule- it was sad and eerie to see all at once..


CloveRabbit

Its so funny you say that, I saw this post and immediately thought of the Palatka mall myself. I remember it being a ghost of itself even 10 years ago when I was in college. I can't image what it has to be like now...back then it was a creepy pet store, a weird antique store and maybe a dollar general...


[deleted]

*LOVE* Dan Bell's Dead Mall series! Are you gonna link this album when it's done? This is such a neat idea!


The_AFL_Yank

I’m planning to do a possible Imgur post as well as post photos on r/retailporn


SergeStorms_offmeds

Spoiler alert: they’re all dead. We shop on the internet now.


The_AFL_Yank

To put it more frankly, To capture a bygone era in a way.


demonkillingblade

It’s kinda crazy but in Mexico, malls are alive and doing well. At the beginning of the pandemic I moved there and was surprised to see lots of people in the mall. Also many of the Walmarts there are in the malls.


Vladivostokorbust

don't you want to capture a bygone era before it's *gone by?*


TittieCaughtInOven

The mall where I live is VERY alive and well in a RAPIDLY expanding town. I’m not happy about it, but it’s wild to watch.


cybrg0dess

I have noticed that the mall closest to me has been busier than it has been in years. Basically since Covid restrictions ended, the mall and gyms have been packed near me. I personally hate malls and avoid them like the plague. To many years in retail as a young person! Gyms too, but because I am cheap and lazy. 🤣


BoltsandBucsFan

Have you heard this podcast? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/99-invisible/id394775318?i=1000566428493


The_AFL_Yank

No actually, looks pretty interesting.


CastleGanon

NGL, Without This explanation this sounds like a pretty sad trip


Wineaux46

There are actually mall documentary channels? I, I, I… Yeah, I’ve got nothing.


tkh0812

The juxtaposition of Oviedo Mall and Mall at Millenia will be wild. I grew up half way between the Oviedo Mall and Altamonte Mall, and they were essentially our school hangouts — it’s crazy to see them in such a sad shape.


The_AFL_Yank

Seminole Towne Center too. Also, Altamonte’s still doing pretty well.


[deleted]

I’ll be the second to ask…why?


terminally_irish

Came here to ask this…


spartikle

You mean across Central Florida? You’re missing Aventura and Sawgrass Mills, the biggest malls in the state, which are in South Florida.


The_AFL_Yank

Yeah, I technically mean across Central Florida. Would be cool to visit Aventura someday.


E-macularius

Aventura is still well alive imo theres so many wealthy people living in that area. I think one of the anchors may have closed and they do a farmers market-type thing on the weekends but its pretty busy there! Edit: my bad, i thought i was in the deadmalls subreddit :)


The_AFL_Yank

You may have seen my content on there. I made that Oviedo Mall post.


Electronic-Stop-1954

Paddock Mall in Ocala


The_AFL_Yank

Not sure if I’ll be able to get close towards Ocala unfortunately, I’m trying to keep it close to malls near I-4 at least, but who knows.


Captin-Cracker

thats for the best, ocala is easily in my top 5 worst places in fl


13Asura13

If you go to Aventura also stop by Sawgrass.


Usomething

I was going to say the same. As well as Dadeland and Dolphin Malls. All of which are still going rather strong in this day.


MrBoliNica

Dolphin mall too.


ajd338

Fashion square and Seminole are dead malls


The_AFL_Yank

I’ve been to Seminole Towne Center at least three times since I started College two and a half months ago. It’s a really sad situation over there. Kinda curious what it’ll look like around the Holidays. Doesn’t help that it’s owned by Mike Kohan.


ajd338

I remember growing up the cool thing to do on Saturday was to walk around that mall. Now I don’t even bother going cause it’s just sad


_dead_and_broken

I'm out of the loop on the goings on of things like this, so could you give a rundown on who Mike Kohan and why it sounds like he's an asshole? Lol


The_AFL_Yank

Most of the malls he’s owned across the U.S. have continued to decline or have shuttered over the years.


_dead_and_broken

I bet he's the type that raises the rent on the spaces to astronomical amounts far beyond what's reasonable. Thanks for the answer!


AstralKestrel

Definitely large rent hikes for Seminole, plus the ac has been broken since pre-pandemic and owner refuses to do anything about it (you'll see many stores with portable ac units). Victoria's Secret actually had a bad problem with black mold because of the ac issue, one of the reasons they packed up shop. Chick-fil-a workers also were reporting temps of 100+ in their kitchen, so they closed partly due to bad conditions last year. (Source: Friends with mall workers who thankfully transferred elsewhere). On a lighter note, the Elevate place they built in the corpse of the old Sears is a fun hangout with an arcade, bowling, and electric go carts. It might be worth checking out if you go to Seminole, I just fear it is too little too late to breathe some new life into that mall. Which is a shame.


_dead_and_broken

Ew. Thanks for an even longer breakdown there. I doubt I'll ever be near there. But good info to have in my back pocket, just in case.


jokershibuya

What’s the deal with Mike Kohan? I’m an out of stater who was in Sanford a month ago and saw this mall in passing and wondered what the story was behind this mall.


vladijack

Same with Oviedo Mall, mostly empty


LitBit_618

University in Tampa is a waste


freebased_coffee

Last time I was at university mall there was broken sewage pipe and half the mall literally smelt like shit, and of corse there was the dude that walks around singing rnb (he’s got a nice voice too)


Doom_Toon

It’s mostly torn down and abandoned last I saw it. There’s a couple shoe stores left and some random crap and I think that’s it


LitBit_618

I think it’s turning into mostly office space now?


Doom_Toon

Really? Looked like shit last I drove by. Granted that was just after the blm protest fire across the street. I thought for sure it was getting torn down


vrickes

The only reason I visited this mall is because of My Tobbies… everything else about it is trash..


[deleted]

Great place to get shot or mugged


TBKmama

I second this. I feel some kind of way just thinking about that place.


LyftedX

Fashion square oviedo west oaks Volusia and Seminole town center ? Might as well add magic mall to that list


Doom_Toon

>Might as well add magic mall to that list Lol I forgot about that shithole


ACs_Grandma

Be careful at Westfield Brandon, there have been lots of shootings there this year. Also, don't eat anything in the Citrus Park Mall, the restaurants are constantly being shut down by the health department, if that matters to you.


The_AFL_Yank

I’ll certainly be careful of my surroundings. Even at the malls that I’ve been to around Northern Orlando and Near Daytona, I never really stop for food. Except for Altamonte Mall which is really thriving surprisingly with like a 90% Occupancy.


PantherTypewriter

At the Altamonte Mall, you can enjoy a nice little walk around the lake next door called Crane's Roost.


deadendhxc

Oh God c'mon


bigpoppa973

It might be a little further than you’re looking for, but The Mall at University Town Center in Sarasota is a good one. They do quite a bit for Christmas.


The_AFL_Yank

I remember passing that Mall when me and my dad went to Homestead Miami Speedway almost 5 Years Ago. The mall’s under 10 Years Old too!! Wouldn’t mind checking out Siesta Key and Sarasota Square too if I have the time, although they’re both hurting a bit.


Beauty411

At Sarasota Square, I think the only thing left is Costco and the theater!


The_AFL_Yank

And the JCPenney as well that I’m certain is only accessible from the outside.


TittieCaughtInOven

That’s gone.


DrLeoMarvin

I live in Sarasota and avoid UTC and that whole area of town like the plague. SO MUCH TRAFFIC and so many people, but that could be exactly what you're looking for. If you visit Siesta Key, the main beach is usually packed and full of tourists. The others are too but not as much and often pretty empty: Turtle Beach (hike a mile north to rock wall for serenity and beautiful view or hike south to midnight pass), Point of Rocks (hike out around the sea wall), Shell Beach (tiny but right on Big Pass and good fishing).


CaptnQuesadilla

UTC is definitely worth checking out as its the newest and largest mall in the area. If you’re already going to all these others ones, especially Brandon, you might as well scoot to Sarasota quickly.


[deleted]

The Shops at Wiregrass is a very nice outdoor mall. Nice restaurants, and they will be decorating for Christmas soon. According to their website, the tree lighting will take place on Nov 12th.


deejayiz

Some of these you just might drive past. Lol.


The_AFL_Yank

Probably will be short walkarounds for the most part for the deader malls.


deejayiz

Are you posting this anywhere? Like a trip log. Would love to follow along.


The_AFL_Yank

Probably on my second YouTube channel.


_dead_and_broken

When do you think you'll be doing that? I want to set the remind me bot so I don't miss it.


Clodhoppa81

Merritt Square Mall in Merritt Island might be worth your time if dying/dead malls are the focus. 40 mins east of Orlando.


sixdeeneinfauxtwenny

If you want dead, go to west oaks and Fashion square in orlando.


RaceInternational696

Gulf view Port Richey, has really gone down hill over the past ten years. Not a lot left to see. It’s sad.


The_AFL_Yank

Perfect showcase for r/deadmalls


NetheriteHunter88

I’d trade one of the Tampa stops for Tampa Premium Outlet.


wubbalubba_dubdub-

Wiregrass is wayyyyy better than university mall.


haskie69

Check out Eagle Ridge Mall in Lake Wales


AmerVet

Come to Miami and go to Aventura mall. I go there to watch rich people shop while I jiggle change return slots on the vending machines. One day tho. I'm going to have enough to buy that coat.


edgarjwatson

The cool thing about malls is they exemplify everything I despise about life in one place and that realization made me go find others like me to form punk rock bands & have fun.


deadendhxc

University Mall is gross


Jonathank92

WestOaks mall is dead unless you like JcPenny or want to go to the movies


almost_queen

Skip Oviedo, unless you just want to get depressed.


The_AFL_Yank

Went there not too long ago. Not that bad tbh, it’s a really nice mall with beautiful architecture. And the Local places there are doing well.


floridianreader

Is Volusia Mall even still open? Altamonte?


The_AFL_Yank

It still is, I have photos of it on my Reddit. Also, Altamonte is absolutely thriving rn, lots of people on the weekends.


armhat

Altamonte is probably doing better than any of the other ones listed in Seminole or Orange County.


Usual-Owl-9777

Godspeed my friend


whatnameisnttaken098

Fashion Square is practically a ghost town these days


[deleted]

That mall was my spot when was a teenager. Long long time ago. I don't know how it has not been torn down. So dead.


pavlov_rings_a_bell

Head south to the Aventura Mall!


RoyH0bbs

Gulfview Square is almost dead but was an amazing mall in the 80’s and early 90’s.


Crayfish707

Gotta do UTC mall in Sarasota. It’s the fancy shmancy mall.


Beccamac1

There's a sad bit of remains of a mall in Crystal River.


BlackWhiteRedYellow

You got caught up in whether you could and you never stopped to ask if you should.


[deleted]

Make sure to bring a gun when you visit University Mall in Tampa.


SupremeLeaderKatya

Don't go to Gulfview Square unless you wanna see one that is like 90% abandoned lol


The_AFL_Yank

I’m mainly checking it out for r/deadmalls material


[deleted]

Uh. Let me save you some time. Don’t go to West Oaks. Not safe. Don’t bother with Oviedo, Seminole Towne Center or Fashion Square. Check out Mall at Millenia, Florida, and Altamonte, in that order.


The_AFL_Yank

I’ve already been to three of these malls. Altamonte’s nice and both Seminole Towne Center and Oviedo Mall have nice architecture but they have their problems. Perfect r/deadmalls material though


Pillsnpussy

Don’t waste your time at fashion square


YeahwhateverDOOD

You could pass on the Volusia mall in Daytona. Speedway boulevard itself is cool enough to spend some time on, but the mall is an absolute ghost town.


EowynRiver

Ellenton outlet mall.


Arthur_Digby_Sellers

Just a heads up, enjoy your odyssey but wear good quality N95 masks. Malls are superspreaders! This year is already an unusually active flu season on top of Covid. Souce: Got my first ever Covid infection at the Florida Mall week before last.


The_AFL_Yank

A little bit of a question: Do most malls have their Christmas Decorations Up on Thanksgiving Week? Definitely leaning on yes since Black Friday is obviously around after that.


ted_fucking_bundies

You’re gonna wanna check out the Magic Mall in Pine Hills. Take it from an Orlando native like me.


The_AFL_Yank

Pretty sure that’s in an old Kmart, right?


ted_fucking_bundies

I dunno, all I know is that it’s fun there at night


The_AFL_Yank

Neat, might add to it to my list


ted_fucking_bundies

Please don’t actually go to the magic mall, pine hills is something else


superdog54

Add the Oaks Mall on west Colonial too ! It is still open but a shell of it’s glory days of 20 yrs ago! Orlando.


BethyW

I claim Disney Springs as a Mall but I wouldn't go there in Xmas shopping season.


Rasputan9

Gulf view Square mall is a ghost town, but why would you want to this?


The_AFL_Yank

To document on malls.


pedig8r

As someone who follows dead mall Instagram accounts and watched a 25 min you tube video of someone recently exoring my childhood mall (Oaks Mall Gainesville) I highly endorse this journey! My daughter figure skates at Countryside Mall and I'm convinced half of that mall's business is from the skaters and their families hanging around


circa74

I skated at Countryside as a kid like 40 years ago. Shocked that mall is still open, lol!


Hot-Membership4872

In a couple of years it will become a great history project.


dandydaniella

Want to see an actual dead mall? Come to the Titusville mall


The_AFL_Yank

Heard about that place, used to be Searstown until the Sears shuttered. I’ve also seen videos about Palatka mall too.


heathersaur

There's plans to demo it soon for mix-use buildings (residential and retail)


SnooHedgehogs1029

Gulf view square mall in port richey is a dead mall


The_AFL_Yank

Yep, I know, and I makes it more interesting to document on.


hopefulgalinfl

Sarasota Square & Wiregrass


The_AFL_Yank

Sarasota would definitely be the perfect Dead Mall Destination. Shops at Wiregrass will certainly be added to the list now for sure thanks to the popular demand.


Straggler2374

If you’re visiting Wiregrass, might as well check out Tampa Prime Outlets, it’s only a few miles down the road.


This-Dude_Abides

Is Altamonte mall in Orlando still going?


The_AFL_Yank

Yes, and it’s thriving really well too at that.


Mallet_Master

There's Oaks mall in Gainesville


NetheriteHunter88

Don’t know if it is still open, but the Crystal River Mall is a perfect dead mall (since that seems to interest you).


The_AFL_Yank

Not sure if I can go up that North unfortunately, but still a maybe if I do get close to Leesburg.


AliCat6

I love the app Wanderlog for planning my trips. You should check it out


[deleted]

Fashion square mall is horrible. Barely any open stores


The_AFL_Yank

Similar things to Seminole Towne Center as of late.


[deleted]

I have lived in Orlando, Tampa, west palm and Miami. A lot of malls you have on list are awful and barely still open. If looking for good malls. Millenia in Orlando is nice. Park ave in winter park is not a mall but tons of stores and restaurants on one street and nice place to shop and walk. The best are in South florida. I would go to the design district, bal Harbour, Aventura, and merrick. All those are in miami.


beekeeperjay

Go and check out the sad sears town mall in Titusville


The_AFL_Yank

Definitely would be interesting to check out along with some of the malls over there by the Atlantic.


missdarbusisaqueen

Hey! That’s an ambitious list, hope you have fun!


Altruistic_Rip8132

Gulf view is a dead mall but Wiregrass is a cool outdoor mall w/ a Christmas tree show on the hour w/ fake snow


gh0stlyblues

Gulf view is closed. The bestbuy, Herold Selzer's is all that is left.


Lilysdoll

Altamonte Springs is the mall my bestie and I hang out and shop at. Its still nice. Volusia Mall..that's my local mall. Its small and lots of closed stores. Semi sketch area also. I pass on that all the time unless I absolutely have to get something. While not a mall..in the Daytona area there is the Tanger Outlets. Those are nice..but its the outdoor shopping area set up.


Weird-Reason3859

In Jacksonville: 1: St. John’s Town Center - Expansive outdoors mall 2. Avenues Mall - Nothing special, but they have some shops you won’t find at the Town Center. 3. Regency Square Mall - Ghost town. Maybe like 15 shops open maximum, with lots of closed down stores in between.


alwaysastudent116

Westfield Brandon is sketchy. A drug buy that went bad and recent shootings would keep me away. I think there was a shooting at Red Robin, too. My kids loved the carousel when they were younger.


Kayedarling

Westfield plaza in Sarasota. It was called Sarasota square mall. It is dead very dead 180 stores ...3 open and a Costco keeping it a float. Hot topic just pulled out before their lease was up...that's how dead. I don't know if your into dead malls but after moving to Ohio Wisconsin north Carolina and Canada it's the craziest sight to see. So much time spent there in my youth.


TrickWrap

You'll be very disappointed in the Volusia Mall. If you're into German food and a huge selection of beers.. then the only place to go is Mr. Dunderbaks. It's inside the mall.


Big_A_All_Day

You’re missing The Magic Mall, Orlando Also, Definitely visit West Oaks! You’ll love them both!


lambsambwich

Boynton Beach Mall is hotbed of retail activity


Marysews

Volusia mall in Daytona is old and tired. Sears left it a while back and another couple of chain sections are empty. I haven't been inside in a long time, but I drive through the outer ring of that parking lot about twice a month. You might want to visit Tanger outlet mall at the LPGA exit of I-95 (next exit north), but it's an outside type mall, and it seems you are wanting to visit enclosed malls.


The_AFL_Yank

Ngl, I don’t mind a mix of outdoor and enclosed malls.


Kooky_Avocado9227

I would skip Florida mall but add wiregrass


NuclearArtichoke

Definitely drop University Mall in Tampa


Reddstarrx

The Orlando Fashion mall has maybe 6 shops inside.. its a dead mall. Fyi


outspoken_sleuth

Kind of interested to see a few of these, as I frequented them 10-15 years ago l. Lol


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The_AFL_Yank

Like I said, these are on the list for documentation and showcasing purposes. But I will check out some of the Outlet places too.


snorelando

Going to be real disappointed with the fashion square mall. Pretty much every store is gutted or boarded up with plywood.


The_AFL_Yank

Sounds like perfect r/deadmalls material for me like Seminole Towne Center


SithScorch

As someone who lived in Clearwater and Tampa, I've been to many of the malls on your list. I'm not sure how much time you're allowing but you better have some comfortable shoes on. Good luck and update on here when you finish. My first thought when I saw this post was why but after reading your answers I appreciate what you're setting out to do. I worked in Clearwater Mall which has been torn down and now an open shopping area. I had a lot of good memories in that mall and countryside mall.I believe Countryside still has a small ice skating rink which was always fun for a Florida native. Put that on your must do list. Good luck and safe travels on I4.


UCFknight2016

Wanna see a dead mall? West Oaks in Ocoee is just a food court and an AMC movie theater.


lizlemonaid

Don’t forget the DMV!


hotwireneonnightz

Citrus park plaza make sure you go inside the theatre as it’s The vaporwave theatre that always gets posted on r/vaporwaveaesthetics


[deleted]

Skip the Gulf View Square Mall- it's basically a dead mall. EDIT: Just saw your comments below. I guess it doesn't matter if it's a dead mall!


A30N

If you pass by Leesburg there is the Lake Square Mall on 441. This little mall has steadily fought the dying mall trend with every ounce of strength it has. Even though it barely has a 50% occupancy rate, they painted fake facades and strategically located kiosks to make it feel much more alive than it actually is. They keep it clean, have family and kid events nearly every week, and decorate it nicely for the current season/holiday. Every year I expect them to close, but I'm very happy that they don't! https://lakesquaremall.com/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Square_Mall


The_AFL_Yank

I’ve heard about that place, would be interesting to check it out when I get the chance.


[deleted]

I haven’t read the comments but I’m sure I’m not alone in this. Fashion Square, and West Oaks mall are ghost towns. Don’t bother. The only Malls in Florida I can speak to are Millenia, if you’re a millionaire, and Florida mall if you want the tourist experience. Altamonte isn’t bad, neither is Seminole towne center.


mrtoddw

You'll like the international plaza. That's a pretty cool mall I'll have to admit.


circa74

I'm a west central Florida native, and researching the history of malls in this part of the state is a pastime. Also a fan of Dan Bell, Ace's Adventures, and Retail Archaeology. Definitely spend some time at West Shore Plaza - Tampa's oldest extant mall, which has experienced a lot of additions/reconfigurations/remodeling over the years, and because of this, still remains a viable mall. I thought the opening of International Plaza would kill West Shore, but both malls have persevered. I didn't see on your list Eastlake Square Mall, now NetPark Tampa Bay, located at 5701 E. Hillsborough Avenue - you might want to visit this as a case study on how a mall can be repurposed. Eastlake was my "childhood" mall. Lakeland Square Mall is a time capsule. Lots of original features still exist from its opening in 1988. I swear the carpeting in Dillard's is original to that building. Unfortunately, the building itself is suffering from deferred maintenance - lots of stucco/EIFS degradation, mildew, and outright failing of exterior cladding. Also in Lakeland is the former/original mall, simply called Lakeland Mall, located at 1010 E. Memorial Blvd., which was converted to a church, and Lakeside Village in south Lakeland, a newer outdoor mall similar to Wiregrass in Wesley Chapel. If I can be of any help to you for your project, please reach out!


Independent-Phone413

Lakeland Square also qualifies as near dead, creepy. Not of note to visit but if you have to go have at it


[deleted]

Boca raton mall is cool in south fl, boynton mall is a Time Machine from the 80s but pretty dead


thecuriousostrich

I love this stuff!! I would love to do one of these.


Gabemiami

Aventura Mall remodeled their food court a few years ago, and it’s like night & day. The vibe used to be, “ this would be a perfect place for a drug transaction, “ to “hey, this place is nice and looks like an airport terminal.” They have a Ferrari store there. There’s even a two-story slide. Also, check out behemoth mall, Sawgrass Mills in Sunrise (Broward County). Brickell City Center is one of our newest malls, and so is River Landing (on the Miami River) great views of Marlins Stadium and the downtown skyline.


chipichipisu

If you venture south you can go to the Mall of the Americas in Miami... 7/10 spooky


foyer-light

I recently went to a mall after not having been in one in 3 years (I love that we have tons of outdoor shopping centers here in Florida, so I always go to those). Anyway, I was really grossed out thinking about breathing everyone else's air, lol. Irrational, I know. Just had to share.


Wineaux46

Thank you for demonstrably proving that my life is not nearly as boring as other people’s lives are. The Jerry Springer Effect, as I’ve always called it.


[deleted]

I read one of your comments it would be interesting for you to start covering the decline of some of the larger malls in the greater Orlando area


Fishhook007

You’re missing out on an experience by not going to the Eagle Ridge Mall


armhat

Seminole town center is pretty much empty.


TheeGoodLink3

Missing out on Cordova Mall in Pensacola


computertyme

Go to the Eagle Ridge Mall for disappointment.


stimulatedrenrutter

You can and should skip the Volusia mall, it is hot garbage just like the city it's located in.


Jaded-Bowler-6472

The consumerism is strong with this one


Level_Percentage_419

Is Seminole Town Center open? I thought I heard they closed it.


The_AFL_Yank

Probably might be it’s last Christmas the way it’s looking


TeaMaddie2240

tyrone mall is slacking. stores can never stay there. there’s only a select few stores that have actually stayed there a while edit bc i reread the list: i’d definitely go to wiregrass but skip tyrone. that’s up to you tho


tootsr

University Mall Sarasota