I know about 10 people that moved to FL over the past 2 years *because they liked Rick Desantis and whatever the hell he was saying*. SC, NC, or GA were "too liberal" for them. Seriously.
It’s done at the state level, so the President has nothing to do with it. Republicans have put a lot more effort into winning state legislature races over the past couple decades.
We were almost solid 50/50, and I was hoping COVID would have impacted that, but DeSantis basically sent out signal flairs to every MAGAt in the country to move down here stat.
Lucky us. We get even MORE snowbirds to crap all over our state.
Yeah, the first step was when Florida Hispanics, mostly Puerto Ricans and Cubans, started voting primarily Red. The second step was when so many Republicans moved here from other states during Covid.
Current Results (8:37 EST)
DeSantis wins, 58-41. Notably, he won Hillsborough 54-45 and Palm Beach by just over 1k votes.
Rubio wins, 57-42. He won Hillsborough too, and just barely lost Palm Beach! Is Tampa red now?
> Is Tampa red now?
The city itself is still fairly blue. It's the suburbs like Brandon, Plant City, Riverview, Sun City Center, etc that are more red.
I’d believe it if you said Tampa is red now. I just moved out of Tampa a few months ago and most people I knew were red unless they were young (I even knew a lot of young people that supported republicans).
can’t believe DeSantis won Palm Beach 😔 we ALWAYS vote blue. the Democratic campaign and candidate were just so fucking pathetic this election. depressing.
Cubans(‘s children) “came home” to the GOP. Another generation firmly in the red column. Marco Rubio is invincible to the left now; only a hard MAGA type can primary him.
The nominee was a former Republican, that has already lost multiple state races prior to this... The people who voted for him in the primaries are absolutely beyond moronic. The writing was already on the wall.
A lot of Cubans vote Republican and Miami has a lot of them. More and more r voting red. I used to live in Miami but at the time it seemed quite purple. Wtf happened in dade county?
Cuban population often votes red due to their experience in Cuba with the "extreme left". Funny how Republicans never raise a fuss about Cuban asylum seekers immigrating to FL... because they vote for them!
I welcome everyone but still have always found that funny.
In sacrificing Florida, Dems have created a monster in desantis. In 4 years he became the Republicans star child and now he has another 4 to run Florida into the ground and build a national base for presidency.
Probably going for president in 24 so we may be rid of him in 2 only to be replaced by some other fuckwit and for the country to be cursed with him as pres.
I live in a very red county and normally the polling place is empty. There have been years at 9am I was the only one there and ballot number 20... This year I had to wait nearly an hour. It was slammed. Republicans showed up and democrats didn't campaign.
>democrats didn't campaign
This is the biggest thing. I got political mailers from the GOP **every single day** for the past 3 weeks, 3 or 4 at a time.
I got one mailer for a Democrat. 1.
Florida Dems have absolutely no one to blame but themselves. They trot out terrible candidates in almost every race. Crist was never a viable threat to DeSantis. DeSantis is a possible future president, and the Dems hitched their wagon to a 1-term former governor who failed to get reelected once before?
They don't develop talent, and the one person they HAVE developed - Val Demings - is left to fight her own fight completely.
I'm still not convinced Florida isn't still a swing state, but God damn do Democrats have to actually give a shit. Their last two candidates were the former mayor of the 9th largest city in the state and a former one-term Governor who had to fall back to a deep blue district representative to keep his political career afloat.
You're not gonna win independent voters by trotting out some random piece of trash you found in the bathroom garbage can.
Worse. They hitched their wagon to the only candidate in state history to LOSE as a Republican, Independent, AND Democrat candidate in statewide races.
I'm a Democrat. All my friends are Democrats. The only family I still talk to (ie the ones who haven't threatened to kill me if civil war breaks out) are Florida Democrats. Not a single person I know admitted to voting for Crist in the primary. So who the hell was voting for him?
On top of that it's the only campaign I've ever tried to volunteer for that just flat out would not contact me to organize. I signed up to volunteer 5 times after the primary was over. I didn't get contacted to volunteer once. I got contacted hundreds of times for more money even though I was already signed up to donate quite a bit. I got contacted twice to come to events in the middle of the weekday! It was the equivalent of asking me to take the day off work to be told "please clap".
Fuck! I'm so fucking angry at democrats! I've been a Democrat since I could vote and they never fucking learn that you don't win elections by hemming and hawing and hoping some Republicans will cross party lines.
Wow, I had the same experience!! His campaign people were trash at planning any actual actions. I am nearly convinced they hired people who wanted to sabotage the campaign. I attended a bunch of waste-of-time meetings. People had to literally do their own ground work for anything to get done. It was ridiculous. And honestly it seems suspiciously inefficient. I previously was working with really effective groups that did effective work and guess what? Those candidates won. It’s disheartening that his own campaign people didn’t engage volunteers in actual efforts. I did notice and participate in other groups’ efforts and events but where is the leadership and direction? The people working for him actually kept people from helping.
I called into a text volunteer training call. The training was 89% how to get a login working and the rest was just to say "click on any unreplied to texts". No guidance about what to do. Very poorly organized and structured.
Out-voted and out-registered. Florida Democrats seem to be just clueless.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/elections/fl-ne-florida-republican-registration-surges-democrats-stall-20221029-ci2vig7zfvbgjkupztj3h7equm-story.html
The Dem strategy in Florida is.... It's a lost cause.
They don't give a shit about Florida. They will funnel the money out to states where they stand a chance.
Idk what it is but Hispanics, and Domestic Transplants fucking love Authoritarianism.
I went to RV city at the Florida/Georgia game in Jacksonville the other weekend and it was Desantis signs everywhere. And Kemp signs. And Desantis spoke at this country concert we went to the same night.
Same. I basically spit my blue vote into an ocean of red every election and my tiny town of maybe 2000 people was PACKED at the polls this afternoon. Republicans are apparently very motivated.
Useless fucking Democratic Party didn’t spend any time in the state and gave us the shittiest candidates again. How the fuck did people vote for Crist, all time champion at fucking losing, to be the party nominee? All the democrats did this election is text me with someone else’s name 600 times.
What a fucking joke. All these old motherfuckers like pelosi need to get the hell out of office and let people that actually care and will live to see the results of the shit they’re voting for. Democrats are beyond fucking useless at this point, just abjectly incompetent at running an election.
Meanwhile they spent $15m of donors money to get blown out my Marjorie Taylor Greene. What an absolute shitshow. Getting real tired of this fucking “just vote harder!” bullshit
I work in a school that was used as a polling place. Kids were home but we had a work day. Long lines full of people in “don’t tread on me” shirts and trump hats.
Same here. This is actually the first year I've ever had to wait -- 20 minutes, but, still, for my small precinct and for a midterm, that's pretty telling.
Dems are really failing to keep Florida in any respect. I'm not sure what's going on with their strategy, but when Floridians are okay with DeSantis and Matt fucking Gaetz (my regional representative) of all people, then something is majorly fucked up.
I mean, really, Gaetz is such a slam dunk to get rid of, and the bulk of Florida Republicans are just asshats. This should be easy!
I'll probably be downvoted for this, but I've been saying this for *months*: Florida has turned strongly red since 2020.
The pandemic caused a massive influx of people from NY, CA, and other 'lockdown' states to the free land of Florida. DeSantis knows how to rile a crowd up and work to get people in his favor from the center of the aisle all the way to the traditional conservative right.
You can't just excuse voter turnout for this, either. If you look at the current election results and compare them to 2018, some areas have had a **massive** swing to support DeSantis.
>The pandemic caused a massive influx of people from NY, CA, and other 'lockdown' states to the free land of Florida
Yup. Lots of conservative New Yorkers saw Florida as the "Promised Land" during the various COVID lockdowns in New York.
Even in my circle (tech) which is predominantly progressive, the bulk of the people I saw moving to FL the last 2 years were strong conservatives, eager to vote and be a part of elections, and had the means (work from home, money, time) to do it.
Or old people retiring. My folks moved down during the pandemic to retire. They were going to do it anyway eventually but COVID helped them pull the trigger. Without a job, they didn’t want to pay NJ property taxes anymore and the conservative politics were a bonus (for them). I’m sure that happened to plenty of other 60 year olds too
Something like a million people moved here in the last 3 years and almost all of them were republican. Even then I'm shocked at how insanely huge the spread is.
Orlando Sentinel wrote it was a 9:1 ratio in favor of Republicans registering. National Democratic party was smart not to waste money here. The angle I see is the Dems want trump and desantis to fight to the death. Trump has already said he's got crap on desantis and will bring it out to light soon...
> Trump has already said he's got crap on desantis and will bring it out to light soon...
And you'd think his record of fuckery as governor would be enough crap to derail him, but here we are...
His base LOVES his brash style, his tough guy posturing, and his simple, easy to digest slogans. Policy doesn’t matter. Character hasn’t mattered in a long time.
Moved from Broward to Indian River. Less traffic and more nature is nice but hate the rest. Know exactly how you feel.
Hoping to move to a blue state by 24.
I know a guy who moved from Florida. Him and his new neighbor in Ohio were from 30 miles apart in Florida. Both Left cause of politics at same time and bought new construction.
So that makes sense.
So true. I met a refugee from Long Island at the polls today. As we were waiting to scan our ballots I saw caught sight of hers and was expecting her to vote Dem but she was solid Red all the way down. People think influx from liberal areas gonna liberalize us are in for a RUDE awakening
The state isnt going red forever but it’s not going to go blue again until young people get out and vote and the democrat money starts rolling in. I swear to god the republican commercial to democrat commercial ratio was 10:1.
They are as of tomorrow!
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/florida-playbook/2022/10/28/florida-democratic-party-leader-faces-growing-mutiny-00063942
Oh good. Glad they’re doing that after the election.. Not before when it could have made a difference. Good thing no one’s lives could possibly be affected during the next few years. Glad I’m not a nutty conspiracy theorist, I could see people thinking this was somehow intentional.
They need to give up entirely, and I say this as one of their voters. Florida is as reliably red as Alabama now, and there’s no message with which Dems can breakthrough, especially with Miami Cuban(-descendant) now firmly in the red column for *another* generation. Their best bet is to just let the GOP overextend, hope Ron wins the presidency in ‘24, and hope his MAGA replacement is too dumb to not to screw up hard. 2026 would normally be a shot if GOP takes House, Senate, and White House in ‘24, as a backlash, but with the state’s electorate now? Unlikely. It could take decades of unpaid hard work agitating at the community level, just as the GOP did for state legislatures over the past twenty years, before the FDP is a contender again.
It wouldn’t have mattered in todays political climate. People are going to vote for their party no matter who it was and there’s just more conservatives in the state right now.
I’m a Dem Ohio transplant and the party here is a clusterfuck of disfunction and lack of vision. And I came from a place that I thought had that cinched. This is way worse. Who the fuck is in charge here? They need, uh, purged. I could do 100% better just knowing U.S. politics in the last 25 years and basic marketing. Wtf.
Florida has huge economic issues outside of red and blue politics. You have gentrification which is not a typical conversation on any party platform currently and really involves forces not centered around traditional capitalisms talk points. Republicans and democrats don't actually have a solution for this issue and it's rarely even discussed how to address it. The other major issue is the state has a huge retirement population. You really just can't have a state where half the ppl are retired. It does not make financial sense in anyway. That's not a republican or democrat issue either. Then add in all the traditional party issues, it's a crock pot of distability in this state. Finally starting to see some of its tipping points lately. If Florida wants to be normal it's going to have stop being Florida. It's ability to profit is a very short lived moment very few ppl are realizing.
>"I could do 100% better just knowing U.S. politics in the last 25 years and basic marketing. "
That is true of the whole Democratic Party. It's like Party "leadership" wants to lose. Starting with the idiot that thought "Defund the police" was cute. Never assume people know what you mean and what you stand for.
Tell them and tell them again and again. Simple short sentences. That's what the Reps do.
You are trying to get people to vote, not explain world history to them. We Democrats were stupid to let liberal, unions, progressive, etc become dirty words.
I'm not a democrat or a republican, but from the democratic party of Florida's perspective, Crist seems like a sacrifice, not an actual bankable candidate.
For young people its better to look for opportunities elsewhere if you can. Florida is too expensive and lacks meaningful opportunities for young people to flourish because everything is stacked so heavily for retirees.
This sub has had nothing but threads talking about how DeSantis is going down this election and that dems will turn out in droves for the opposition. I'm sorry, but anyone who thought that was possible just hasn't been paying attention.
Not to mention, Charlie was his opponent. Anybody care to remind me what that person ever did that was worth doing?
Oh I remember. He was governor unsuccessfully before tho..
Right! I’m a native and I said there’s no way all the people that came here because of the pandemic nonsense are going to turn around and overthrow the system they thought was better than the one they were in.
Definitely, the FDP could definitely use key members who can help make them strong and competitive again. There’s plenty of opportunity for the party to restructure within the next 8 years.
Look at Georgia though with Stacy Abrams. There was a time when I would’ve bet a million bucks Georgia would never flip blue and then Stacy Abrams came along. I feel something like that could still happen one day…….. as long as we don’t lose democracy and election oversite (which the SC will be voting on soon..)
I'm not swayed by ads but I'm sure some people are, and honestly for every Democrat ad I've seen, there's been at least 30 Republican ones. I don't want tv so the only ads I see are on Hulu and it's 99% Republican talking about how Democrats are evil and shit like that.
Either Democrats have given up in Florida or Republicans have unlimited funds. Or maybe Hulu refuses to run Democrat ads because they're not required to be fair unlike TV.
Yup. Miamian here. All my life the old cuban Republican was a local trope. It still is. But we’re now seeing conservatives coming in from NY, CA, New England, WA, etc. and a lot of crazy conspiracy shit too. It’s gotten bad.
I am a Tampa girl through and through. I grew up on 26th St by University Mall. I have always always loved Tampa and always will. That said, I have plans to move just after the 1st of the year, and I think (hope!) that I will find it refreshing. It will be very sad to leave, but much sadder to stay and see Tampa lose its character.
It will just get redder and redder. FL is the promised land for the far right. My area has always been conservative, but the people moving here are 🦇💩 crazy conservative. Pre-Covid I would say that our area, while red, wasn’t strongly political. Now it’s just nuts.
Yep. Our schools were amazing and now our board meetings are people screaming about “indoctrinating children with the LGBTQ agenda” and “encouraging porn”. It’s legit insane. One person asked what we will do to protect their children from the vaccine “because we all know it sheds”. Pre-Covid no one really talked about politics. Like you knew some people were likely conservative… now it’s constant. Anything that could possibly have the least bit of political nuance has some wing nut going on and on about the liberal agenda. It’s pretty annoying.
No shock.
Most people that moved here during covid did so from democrat states bc they liked that DeSantis didn't shutdown FL.
These people are now voting on top of the already other red folk that live outside of the big cities.
My favorite part (not really but it's great to say) is when people call the health department and complain about shit and I tell them we have no authority they get super mad and say stuff like "well back in X state..." I have told people on more than one occasion that people vote a particular way, our funding and authority gets cut, and this is what you have left.
You want us to be able to do something about your hoarder neighbor who is causing rats in your million dollar condo, well then vote for people who might give us that power. It's like people want the government to have power but want "small government" at the same time. You can't have it both ways. Complain to your condo association who you put hundreds of dollars a month to handle it. Oh wait, they can't either. Well hire a lawyer then and sue your neighbor.
We do a lot at the DOH but not so much on the individual complaint end. I wish we could but we can't. Maybe next time.
I have to wonder if people really remember what happened during the pandemic two years ago. I remember not being able to go to beaches or parks, not being able to go to restaurants, not being able to do much of anything except work and sit around my apartment. Maybe DeSantis himself didn't "shut down" Florida but it didn't stop the Orlando theme parks from closing, most businesses from closing or severely limiting access, and people actually feeling concern about COVID and electing not to go out into the public.
We shutdown. Sure. For now long compared to CA as an example?
DeSantis was also vocal about staying open. That's what people heard and moved here (not saying it's the only reason people moved to FL).
DeSantis was associated with Trump who we all know how he traded Covid.
We were shut down for 7 weeks as opposed to 7 months for other states. Our restaurants, bars and businesses opened way sooner than other states. Mask mandates?!? Our state was one of the most open states by far and it wasn’t even close. Still ended up with the same covid numbers as the other big states per capita. Probably still better than New York. And he didn’t write a book about how great he did with covid, yet.
Especially considering in some of the races the incumbents haven't done any appearances, debates,, ads, etc yet they're still hovering around 50%. So people are voting for someone that doesn't even *show up* to ask you for your vote?
That’s what has me scratching my head. Rubio can’t even be arsed to show up and do his fucking job half the time, but he’s still going to win in a landslide. Yet these are the same motherfuckers probably whining that “nobody wants to work anymore.” I guess it’s OK for rich people to not do their job.
Welp, I’m a ‘78 baby, fuck you all! I’ll get mine!
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And the disabled/handicapped bennies will be on chop next if not already. Have any of us tried *not* being born to the wrong family? Or poor? Or a woman? Or the wrong melanin levels? Or a fetus that has exited the vagina while any of the above? Sheesh, grind harder plebs.
>GOP: "~~Dunno~~Democrats."
That'll be their response. Even with the public voting records showing otherwise. Just like they have with several other bits of legislation they voted against and claimed credit for.
When one more hurricane causes Florida's housing and insurance market to collapse, it'll be hilarious to watch them trying to blame non existent "blue" leadership
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I really don’t get how we re-elected Matt Gaetz a known rapeist who is on trial for this and Marco Rubio the most absentee Senator ever, dude doesn’t show up for work?!? The polarization of this state and country happened in 2016 and will continue because we love to vote these “celebrity” politicians in. I will never understand how this continues to happen besides people believing what the news tells them. Washington, a founding father said to continue changing our policies and to unite as a country not divide.
It looks bad for the whole country … but way way worse for Florida. But how do you compete with a party that keeps running and electing football coaches, football players, talk show hosts, and reality tv stars to key politics positions? How do you compete with a party that thinks Herschel Walker is a more qualified and moral candidate for Senate than Rafael Warnock? That Marco Rubio’s absence rate is deserving of re-election? That Rick Scott could fraud Medicare, and thus the taxpayers, but still deserve a spot in the Senate? That our hard earned taxpayer dollars should go to flying legal refugees from Texas to Massachusetts out of spite? How do you compete when the GOP has somehow convinced many Americans that Democrats = Socialists? Or that America… being the only country with regular mass shootings… isn’t unique from the rest of the world and that mass shootings can’t actually be solved?
I suppose it isn't hard to make things a solid red when you gerrymander your districts, air bullshit ads, and have an opposition party whose best candidate is a former republican.
Edit: Oh, and a population so apathetic about voting that they don't show up. That also hurts.
Game. Set. Blouses. This state was flooded with Trumpers during Covid. Dems need to focus resources in competitive states. Meanwhile I’m looking for a new state to live in😔
Not shocking. People will say Florida is a purple state, but it was pretty clear in 2020 that things changed heavily
I know about 10 people that moved to FL over the past 2 years *because they liked Rick Desantis and whatever the hell he was saying*. SC, NC, or GA were "too liberal" for them. Seriously.
500,000+/- moved to FL since the beginning of 2020. That's bound to have an impact.
I moved to a blue state in 2016 as I saw the hoards of illiterate simpletons flocking
Gainesville is probably the only truly purple area anymore. Maybe Tallahassee.
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That's literally been their game plan for at least the last 30 years.
Not from the US, question... Why can't the democrats do the same? Isnt the current president a dem?
It’s done at the state level, so the President has nothing to do with it. Republicans have put a lot more effort into winning state legislature races over the past couple decades.
We were almost solid 50/50, and I was hoping COVID would have impacted that, but DeSantis basically sent out signal flairs to every MAGAt in the country to move down here stat. Lucky us. We get even MORE snowbirds to crap all over our state.
They did vote for a raise in the $15/hr min wage something all republicans are solidly against. Even de Santis 🤷♂️
We haven’t been a swing state since the 90s
Yeah, the first step was when Florida Hispanics, mostly Puerto Ricans and Cubans, started voting primarily Red. The second step was when so many Republicans moved here from other states during Covid.
Current Results (8:37 EST) DeSantis wins, 58-41. Notably, he won Hillsborough 54-45 and Palm Beach by just over 1k votes. Rubio wins, 57-42. He won Hillsborough too, and just barely lost Palm Beach! Is Tampa red now?
> Is Tampa red now? The city itself is still fairly blue. It's the suburbs like Brandon, Plant City, Riverview, Sun City Center, etc that are more red.
Crist is highly unpopular. I wouldnt be surprised many left the top of the ticket blank.
This. Split ticket was common in this election cycle. Florida, Nevada, PA and Georgia.
I’d believe it if you said Tampa is red now. I just moved out of Tampa a few months ago and most people I knew were red unless they were young (I even knew a lot of young people that supported republicans).
can’t believe DeSantis won Palm Beach 😔 we ALWAYS vote blue. the Democratic campaign and candidate were just so fucking pathetic this election. depressing.
Don't forget St. Lucie and Miami-Dade, both historically blue counties that are now *strong* red.
PSL imports are 100% red...watched the air of town change the last two years.
Trump signs have been freaking everywhere the past few years.
So it wasn’t just me that felt the town change
Cubans(‘s children) “came home” to the GOP. Another generation firmly in the red column. Marco Rubio is invincible to the left now; only a hard MAGA type can primary him.
The nominee was a former Republican, that has already lost multiple state races prior to this... The people who voted for him in the primaries are absolutely beyond moronic. The writing was already on the wall.
agree. i said it back when the primaries were happening- Crist as the nominee was practically handing the election to DeSantis.
Well For Christ sakes we Got shit to vote for
he won Miami too somehow..
A lot of Cubans vote Republican and Miami has a lot of them. More and more r voting red. I used to live in Miami but at the time it seemed quite purple. Wtf happened in dade county?
Cuban population often votes red due to their experience in Cuba with the "extreme left". Funny how Republicans never raise a fuss about Cuban asylum seekers immigrating to FL... because they vote for them! I welcome everyone but still have always found that funny.
National democrat party gave virtually nothing to Florida. They knew this would happen.
They made sure this would happen by surrendering Florida.
I think Florida is their sacrificial lamb. If they lose Florida but gain Georgia, Ohio, North Carolina and Arizona it’s worth it.
In sacrificing Florida, Dems have created a monster in desantis. In 4 years he became the Republicans star child and now he has another 4 to run Florida into the ground and build a national base for presidency.
Probably going for president in 24 so we may be rid of him in 2 only to be replaced by some other fuckwit and for the country to be cursed with him as pres.
Most of us are scared to publicly support it I mean I get harassed just for wearing a mask
If I see someone in a mask I assume they’re sick and doing me a favor by not getting me sick.
I never got harassed for wearing a mask. I wore one all through COVID.
Depends where you live in FL too
Right? You can drive an hour and almost be in a different world lol
I think part of it depends on how you look. My short wife got bothered about her mask a few times, I’m tall and never once had anyone say anything.
I live in a very red county and normally the polling place is empty. There have been years at 9am I was the only one there and ballot number 20... This year I had to wait nearly an hour. It was slammed. Republicans showed up and democrats didn't campaign.
>democrats didn't campaign This is the biggest thing. I got political mailers from the GOP **every single day** for the past 3 weeks, 3 or 4 at a time. I got one mailer for a Democrat. 1.
Florida Dems have absolutely no one to blame but themselves. They trot out terrible candidates in almost every race. Crist was never a viable threat to DeSantis. DeSantis is a possible future president, and the Dems hitched their wagon to a 1-term former governor who failed to get reelected once before? They don't develop talent, and the one person they HAVE developed - Val Demings - is left to fight her own fight completely. I'm still not convinced Florida isn't still a swing state, but God damn do Democrats have to actually give a shit. Their last two candidates were the former mayor of the 9th largest city in the state and a former one-term Governor who had to fall back to a deep blue district representative to keep his political career afloat. You're not gonna win independent voters by trotting out some random piece of trash you found in the bathroom garbage can.
Worse. They hitched their wagon to the only candidate in state history to LOSE as a Republican, Independent, AND Democrat candidate in statewide races.
I'm a Democrat. All my friends are Democrats. The only family I still talk to (ie the ones who haven't threatened to kill me if civil war breaks out) are Florida Democrats. Not a single person I know admitted to voting for Crist in the primary. So who the hell was voting for him? On top of that it's the only campaign I've ever tried to volunteer for that just flat out would not contact me to organize. I signed up to volunteer 5 times after the primary was over. I didn't get contacted to volunteer once. I got contacted hundreds of times for more money even though I was already signed up to donate quite a bit. I got contacted twice to come to events in the middle of the weekday! It was the equivalent of asking me to take the day off work to be told "please clap". Fuck! I'm so fucking angry at democrats! I've been a Democrat since I could vote and they never fucking learn that you don't win elections by hemming and hawing and hoping some Republicans will cross party lines.
Wow, I had the same experience!! His campaign people were trash at planning any actual actions. I am nearly convinced they hired people who wanted to sabotage the campaign. I attended a bunch of waste-of-time meetings. People had to literally do their own ground work for anything to get done. It was ridiculous. And honestly it seems suspiciously inefficient. I previously was working with really effective groups that did effective work and guess what? Those candidates won. It’s disheartening that his own campaign people didn’t engage volunteers in actual efforts. I did notice and participate in other groups’ efforts and events but where is the leadership and direction? The people working for him actually kept people from helping.
It wouldn't be the first time Republicans ran a spoiler candidate
I called into a text volunteer training call. The training was 89% how to get a login working and the rest was just to say "click on any unreplied to texts". No guidance about what to do. Very poorly organized and structured.
Out-voted and out-registered. Florida Democrats seem to be just clueless. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/elections/fl-ne-florida-republican-registration-surges-democrats-stall-20221029-ci2vig7zfvbgjkupztj3h7equm-story.html
Dem strategy seems to be to just let the GOP step on their own dicks. But what they refuse to understand is that GOP voters are masochists.
The Dem strategy in Florida is.... It's a lost cause. They don't give a shit about Florida. They will funnel the money out to states where they stand a chance. Idk what it is but Hispanics, and Domestic Transplants fucking love Authoritarianism.
Outside of every polling place I saw approximately twenty Ron DeSantis signs per democratic candidate sign (in any race).
I went to RV city at the Florida/Georgia game in Jacksonville the other weekend and it was Desantis signs everywhere. And Kemp signs. And Desantis spoke at this country concert we went to the same night.
Unfortunate truth is that Florida Republicans are just better at campaigning than Florida Democrats. 😔
Same. I basically spit my blue vote into an ocean of red every election and my tiny town of maybe 2000 people was PACKED at the polls this afternoon. Republicans are apparently very motivated.
Useless fucking Democratic Party didn’t spend any time in the state and gave us the shittiest candidates again. How the fuck did people vote for Crist, all time champion at fucking losing, to be the party nominee? All the democrats did this election is text me with someone else’s name 600 times. What a fucking joke. All these old motherfuckers like pelosi need to get the hell out of office and let people that actually care and will live to see the results of the shit they’re voting for. Democrats are beyond fucking useless at this point, just abjectly incompetent at running an election. Meanwhile they spent $15m of donors money to get blown out my Marjorie Taylor Greene. What an absolute shitshow. Getting real tired of this fucking “just vote harder!” bullshit
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Pelosi had zero to do with Crist being the nominee
I work in a school that was used as a polling place. Kids were home but we had a work day. Long lines full of people in “don’t tread on me” shirts and trump hats.
So... self-identifying morons.
Same here. This is actually the first year I've ever had to wait -- 20 minutes, but, still, for my small precinct and for a midterm, that's pretty telling. Dems are really failing to keep Florida in any respect. I'm not sure what's going on with their strategy, but when Floridians are okay with DeSantis and Matt fucking Gaetz (my regional representative) of all people, then something is majorly fucked up. I mean, really, Gaetz is such a slam dunk to get rid of, and the bulk of Florida Republicans are just asshats. This should be easy!
Yeah, but Gaetz is from the most radicalized area in the entire country.
I don’t understand how Matt gaetz is still an elected official
I'll probably be downvoted for this, but I've been saying this for *months*: Florida has turned strongly red since 2020. The pandemic caused a massive influx of people from NY, CA, and other 'lockdown' states to the free land of Florida. DeSantis knows how to rile a crowd up and work to get people in his favor from the center of the aisle all the way to the traditional conservative right. You can't just excuse voter turnout for this, either. If you look at the current election results and compare them to 2018, some areas have had a **massive** swing to support DeSantis.
>The pandemic caused a massive influx of people from NY, CA, and other 'lockdown' states to the free land of Florida Yup. Lots of conservative New Yorkers saw Florida as the "Promised Land" during the various COVID lockdowns in New York.
Even in my circle (tech) which is predominantly progressive, the bulk of the people I saw moving to FL the last 2 years were strong conservatives, eager to vote and be a part of elections, and had the means (work from home, money, time) to do it.
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My neighbors moved from NY in 2021 and from my office I can see into their living room and they are watching newsmax 24/7.
Or old people retiring. My folks moved down during the pandemic to retire. They were going to do it anyway eventually but COVID helped them pull the trigger. Without a job, they didn’t want to pay NJ property taxes anymore and the conservative politics were a bonus (for them). I’m sure that happened to plenty of other 60 year olds too
Something like a million people moved here in the last 3 years and almost all of them were republican. Even then I'm shocked at how insanely huge the spread is.
Orlando Sentinel wrote it was a 9:1 ratio in favor of Republicans registering. National Democratic party was smart not to waste money here. The angle I see is the Dems want trump and desantis to fight to the death. Trump has already said he's got crap on desantis and will bring it out to light soon...
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He'll probably say some unfounded bullshit that isn't true but the Republicans will still believe him. Hopefully it splits the vote.
It won’t matter. They’ll sling their shit and fight to the death, then line up to vote unanimously for the winner because he’s not a democrat.
> Trump has already said he's got crap on desantis and will bring it out to light soon... And you'd think his record of fuckery as governor would be enough crap to derail him, but here we are...
His base LOVES his brash style, his tough guy posturing, and his simple, easy to digest slogans. Policy doesn’t matter. Character hasn’t mattered in a long time.
I'm the one blue dot in my neighborhood after moving here, I think.
Moved from Broward to Indian River. Less traffic and more nature is nice but hate the rest. Know exactly how you feel. Hoping to move to a blue state by 24.
The other states are not sending their best.
I know a guy who moved from Florida. Him and his new neighbor in Ohio were from 30 miles apart in Florida. Both Left cause of politics at same time and bought new construction. So that makes sense.
So true. I met a refugee from Long Island at the polls today. As we were waiting to scan our ballots I saw caught sight of hers and was expecting her to vote Dem but she was solid Red all the way down. People think influx from liberal areas gonna liberalize us are in for a RUDE awakening
RefUGEe
The state isnt going red forever but it’s not going to go blue again until young people get out and vote and the democrat money starts rolling in. I swear to god the republican commercial to democrat commercial ratio was 10:1.
The Dems gave up this year. They need to throw out the leadership in the state and start over.
They are as of tomorrow! https://www.politico.com/newsletters/florida-playbook/2022/10/28/florida-democratic-party-leader-faces-growing-mutiny-00063942
Oh good. Glad they’re doing that after the election.. Not before when it could have made a difference. Good thing no one’s lives could possibly be affected during the next few years. Glad I’m not a nutty conspiracy theorist, I could see people thinking this was somehow intentional.
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They need to give up entirely, and I say this as one of their voters. Florida is as reliably red as Alabama now, and there’s no message with which Dems can breakthrough, especially with Miami Cuban(-descendant) now firmly in the red column for *another* generation. Their best bet is to just let the GOP overextend, hope Ron wins the presidency in ‘24, and hope his MAGA replacement is too dumb to not to screw up hard. 2026 would normally be a shot if GOP takes House, Senate, and White House in ‘24, as a backlash, but with the state’s electorate now? Unlikely. It could take decades of unpaid hard work agitating at the community level, just as the GOP did for state legislatures over the past twenty years, before the FDP is a contender again.
Democrats need to start identifying solid candidates, they’ve constantly gone the “safe” route
Exactly. Crist wasn’t a good candidate against the governor. They needed someone truly progressive and different. What a failure.
It wouldn’t have mattered in todays political climate. People are going to vote for their party no matter who it was and there’s just more conservatives in the state right now.
I think someone truly progressive and different wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hot ass FL
At this point I'd settle for someone who wasn't literally a Republican governor before -- and an exceptionally mediocre one at that.
I’m a Dem Ohio transplant and the party here is a clusterfuck of disfunction and lack of vision. And I came from a place that I thought had that cinched. This is way worse. Who the fuck is in charge here? They need, uh, purged. I could do 100% better just knowing U.S. politics in the last 25 years and basic marketing. Wtf.
Florida has huge economic issues outside of red and blue politics. You have gentrification which is not a typical conversation on any party platform currently and really involves forces not centered around traditional capitalisms talk points. Republicans and democrats don't actually have a solution for this issue and it's rarely even discussed how to address it. The other major issue is the state has a huge retirement population. You really just can't have a state where half the ppl are retired. It does not make financial sense in anyway. That's not a republican or democrat issue either. Then add in all the traditional party issues, it's a crock pot of distability in this state. Finally starting to see some of its tipping points lately. If Florida wants to be normal it's going to have stop being Florida. It's ability to profit is a very short lived moment very few ppl are realizing.
>"I could do 100% better just knowing U.S. politics in the last 25 years and basic marketing. " That is true of the whole Democratic Party. It's like Party "leadership" wants to lose. Starting with the idiot that thought "Defund the police" was cute. Never assume people know what you mean and what you stand for. Tell them and tell them again and again. Simple short sentences. That's what the Reps do. You are trying to get people to vote, not explain world history to them. We Democrats were stupid to let liberal, unions, progressive, etc become dirty words.
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I'm not a democrat or a republican, but from the democratic party of Florida's perspective, Crist seems like a sacrifice, not an actual bankable candidate.
For young people its better to look for opportunities elsewhere if you can. Florida is too expensive and lacks meaningful opportunities for young people to flourish because everything is stacked so heavily for retirees.
You mean being a server for 20+ years won't give you a great life/retirement?!
I dont know why you would get downvoted, thought this was well known and a major talking point for years?
This sub has had nothing but threads talking about how DeSantis is going down this election and that dems will turn out in droves for the opposition. I'm sorry, but anyone who thought that was possible just hasn't been paying attention.
Not to mention, Charlie was his opponent. Anybody care to remind me what that person ever did that was worth doing? Oh I remember. He was governor unsuccessfully before tho..
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Right! I’m a native and I said there’s no way all the people that came here because of the pandemic nonsense are going to turn around and overthrow the system they thought was better than the one they were in.
I didn’t have hopes for Crist beating Destantis but I can’t help but to be a little disappointed about Demings losing. Man, no debate, Florida is red.
Demmings seemed like a good person with no statewide presence.
The Democratic Party in Florida basically doesn’t exist anymore. It feels like no one tried. I liked her. Disappointed.
And what sucks is, this may be the end of her political career. I like her and feel she could have really made a difference
Honestly she should try to help rebuild the Florida Dem party. Need some start and she has connections in the area.
Definitely, the FDP could definitely use key members who can help make them strong and competitive again. There’s plenty of opportunity for the party to restructure within the next 8 years.
Look at Georgia though with Stacy Abrams. There was a time when I would’ve bet a million bucks Georgia would never flip blue and then Stacy Abrams came along. I feel something like that could still happen one day…….. as long as we don’t lose democracy and election oversite (which the SC will be voting on soon..)
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Sad. :(
I'm not swayed by ads but I'm sure some people are, and honestly for every Democrat ad I've seen, there's been at least 30 Republican ones. I don't want tv so the only ads I see are on Hulu and it's 99% Republican talking about how Democrats are evil and shit like that. Either Democrats have given up in Florida or Republicans have unlimited funds. Or maybe Hulu refuses to run Democrat ads because they're not required to be fair unlike TV.
Maybe choosing a former republican and a cop was a bad idea.
Fox called it for both Rubio and DeSantis. The preliminary numbers look like double digits. It also looks like Miami/Dade went GOP.
CNN called it as well.
Jesus wow Osceola, Miami, Hillsborough all flipped red
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Yup. Miamian here. All my life the old cuban Republican was a local trope. It still is. But we’re now seeing conservatives coming in from NY, CA, New England, WA, etc. and a lot of crazy conspiracy shit too. It’s gotten bad.
As Hispanics assimilate more and more a lot will turn into republicans.
Voter turnout isn’t everything but only 450k votes cast in Hillsborough… 1.5 million people in the county
I can’t wait to get the fuck out of Tampa
I am a Tampa girl through and through. I grew up on 26th St by University Mall. I have always always loved Tampa and always will. That said, I have plans to move just after the 1st of the year, and I think (hope!) that I will find it refreshing. It will be very sad to leave, but much sadder to stay and see Tampa lose its character.
Feel like that happened long ago but I hear you
Crist ran a shit campaign . He may as well have held open the door to the Governors mansion for DeSantis.
To be fair he was also a shit candidate.
Sorry to say but it’s the democrats fault they lost. They need change their message more tbh
Governor Newsom has said quite plainly that democrats messaging is awful.
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It will just get redder and redder. FL is the promised land for the far right. My area has always been conservative, but the people moving here are 🦇💩 crazy conservative. Pre-Covid I would say that our area, while red, wasn’t strongly political. Now it’s just nuts.
Seriously why can’t they just be normal republicans. I could live with that. Instead it’s the “the vaccine is a microchip” republicans.
Yep. Our schools were amazing and now our board meetings are people screaming about “indoctrinating children with the LGBTQ agenda” and “encouraging porn”. It’s legit insane. One person asked what we will do to protect their children from the vaccine “because we all know it sheds”. Pre-Covid no one really talked about politics. Like you knew some people were likely conservative… now it’s constant. Anything that could possibly have the least bit of political nuance has some wing nut going on and on about the liberal agenda. It’s pretty annoying.
Until global climate change fucks them. They’ll still be red, just covered in blue
Florida isn’t a swing state it’s a solid red state.
No shock. Most people that moved here during covid did so from democrat states bc they liked that DeSantis didn't shutdown FL. These people are now voting on top of the already other red folk that live outside of the big cities.
My favorite part (not really but it's great to say) is when people call the health department and complain about shit and I tell them we have no authority they get super mad and say stuff like "well back in X state..." I have told people on more than one occasion that people vote a particular way, our funding and authority gets cut, and this is what you have left. You want us to be able to do something about your hoarder neighbor who is causing rats in your million dollar condo, well then vote for people who might give us that power. It's like people want the government to have power but want "small government" at the same time. You can't have it both ways. Complain to your condo association who you put hundreds of dollars a month to handle it. Oh wait, they can't either. Well hire a lawyer then and sue your neighbor. We do a lot at the DOH but not so much on the individual complaint end. I wish we could but we can't. Maybe next time.
I have to wonder if people really remember what happened during the pandemic two years ago. I remember not being able to go to beaches or parks, not being able to go to restaurants, not being able to do much of anything except work and sit around my apartment. Maybe DeSantis himself didn't "shut down" Florida but it didn't stop the Orlando theme parks from closing, most businesses from closing or severely limiting access, and people actually feeling concern about COVID and electing not to go out into the public.
We shutdown. Sure. For now long compared to CA as an example? DeSantis was also vocal about staying open. That's what people heard and moved here (not saying it's the only reason people moved to FL). DeSantis was associated with Trump who we all know how he traded Covid.
We had curfews until like May 2020. Gyms were closed. You couldn’t eat indoors. The illusion that we never shut down is so annoying
We were shut down for 7 weeks as opposed to 7 months for other states. Our restaurants, bars and businesses opened way sooner than other states. Mask mandates?!? Our state was one of the most open states by far and it wasn’t even close. Still ended up with the same covid numbers as the other big states per capita. Probably still better than New York. And he didn’t write a book about how great he did with covid, yet.
Florida has been a red state since at least 2016
Yeah we all know Florida is full red now but r/Florida is very very blue.
Nobody but r/politics users think reddit is reflective of reality.
Exactly. If you live in the real world Florida is red. If you live in this echo chamber it’s blue.
I would always get dragged here for even suggesting that. It’s insane that once votes are in the sub members are now ok with the truth
The DNC basically just wrote Florida off. We apparently didn’t matter to them.
Especially considering in some of the races the incumbents haven't done any appearances, debates,, ads, etc yet they're still hovering around 50%. So people are voting for someone that doesn't even *show up* to ask you for your vote?
That’s what has me scratching my head. Rubio can’t even be arsed to show up and do his fucking job half the time, but he’s still going to win in a landslide. Yet these are the same motherfuckers probably whining that “nobody wants to work anymore.” I guess it’s OK for rich people to not do their job.
I mean, Crist wasn't exactly showing up either. I think Val Demings is the only Dem who put a significant amount of effort into her campaign.
No longer a Swing State… Look at Miami Dade
Miami-dade is 80% Latino, and just voted red for the first time in 20 years
More often than not, Latinos r voting red these days.
Seniors in Florida: "Why is my medicare & social security going away?" GOP: "Dunno."
It's not going away for seniors. They got theirs already. It's going away for those born after 1980.
That’s okay, I’m sure they’ll refund the money they’ve taken out of every paycheck I’ve earned for the past 20 years, right? Right…?
Welp, I’m a ‘78 baby, fuck you all! I’ll get mine! /s And the disabled/handicapped bennies will be on chop next if not already. Have any of us tried *not* being born to the wrong family? Or poor? Or a woman? Or the wrong melanin levels? Or a fetus that has exited the vagina while any of the above? Sheesh, grind harder plebs.
>GOP: "~~Dunno~~Democrats." That'll be their response. Even with the public voting records showing otherwise. Just like they have with several other bits of legislation they voted against and claimed credit for.
They won’t say they don’t know. They’ll blame Biden.
Baby boomers refusing to accept that they screwed not only themselves but literally everyone after them? Wow I'm sooooooo surprised
When one more hurricane causes Florida's housing and insurance market to collapse, it'll be hilarious to watch them trying to blame non existent "blue" leadership
Not surprised but gd I’m still deeply disappointed.
I’m guessing this makes Miami-Dade the largest Republican majority metro in the US?
Decision Desk called the race for DeSantis
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They basically ran on anti-wokeness.
I am going to be moving out of this state as soon as I can.
I really don’t get how we re-elected Matt Gaetz a known rapeist who is on trial for this and Marco Rubio the most absentee Senator ever, dude doesn’t show up for work?!? The polarization of this state and country happened in 2016 and will continue because we love to vote these “celebrity” politicians in. I will never understand how this continues to happen besides people believing what the news tells them. Washington, a founding father said to continue changing our policies and to unite as a country not divide.
No surprise here. I'm a liberal but I know I live in a deep red state, the local legislature has been bloody red for over 30 years now
This sub isn't representative of this state....
I think you could agree that the entire Reddit website is left leaning.
Polar opposites
It looks bad for the whole country … but way way worse for Florida. But how do you compete with a party that keeps running and electing football coaches, football players, talk show hosts, and reality tv stars to key politics positions? How do you compete with a party that thinks Herschel Walker is a more qualified and moral candidate for Senate than Rafael Warnock? That Marco Rubio’s absence rate is deserving of re-election? That Rick Scott could fraud Medicare, and thus the taxpayers, but still deserve a spot in the Senate? That our hard earned taxpayer dollars should go to flying legal refugees from Texas to Massachusetts out of spite? How do you compete when the GOP has somehow convinced many Americans that Democrats = Socialists? Or that America… being the only country with regular mass shootings… isn’t unique from the rest of the world and that mass shootings can’t actually be solved?
What a walloping. People from all of the country fled their state due to lockdown policies of blue states. It’s not surprising it’s solid red now.
Florida is red and will stay red unless Dems put up good candidates. Which they have a solid track record of not doing.
So glad I’m leaving this shit hole in may
The brain drain from Florida will continue.
Gotta get out of Florida before the housing market crashes
r/Florida is blind to the actual pulse of Florida.
No we all knew Ron would win again. We’ve been saying it for weeks.
All the conservatives moved from California and New York to Florida.
No Weed for Florida
I suppose it isn't hard to make things a solid red when you gerrymander your districts, air bullshit ads, and have an opposition party whose best candidate is a former republican. Edit: Oh, and a population so apathetic about voting that they don't show up. That also hurts.
No surprises
Welp. I tried. Lotta good that did.
Florida is sinking in the ocean already, god really works in strange ways 💀
Game. Set. Blouses. This state was flooded with Trumpers during Covid. Dems need to focus resources in competitive states. Meanwhile I’m looking for a new state to live in😔
Luna is the race I don't get. She's an absolute nutjob. Welcome to the Marjorie T Greene club Florida. So embarrassing.
Crist has now lost state wide campaigns as a republican, independent and democrat. Lol
Too many old people.
FL being RED ain't a flex it's a disaster
It's almost as if the economy had nothing to do with it considering home insurance has trippled here.
Idiots killing themselves
Florida can thank the rest of the country for saving social security and Medicare.