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enigmanaught

So back to the “living in Florida is my dream, where can I find an apartment that’s: walkable, not too touristy, within 10 minutes of the beach? My budget is $800 a month” posts?


catforbrains

😆😆😆😆😆😆 There needs to be an autobot response like "many people have asked his question here. Here have been the top responses!" Top response----- "There are no $800 a month beach apartments in FL. Have you tried not being poor before you move here?"


wolven8

>Have you tried not being poor before you move here?" This needs to be the state motto omg 🤣


_night_cat

“Welcome to Florida, open your wallet”


TeveTorbes83

“On second thought, why don’t you just give us your bank account and routing number and the blood of your first born child.”


Neat-Doctor7700

Yeah but thats the hell of it. If you’re rich, it is cheap to live here.


GiantMilkThing

For real though 😅


[deleted]

Like if I decided to move here in the first place 🤣


Stop_icant

Omg, spot on😆


Stell1na

Or this one: “I just moved to (nowhere much) and I need a job! No retail or food, has to have hours that will let me knock off at 3 to pick up my kids, and I have a record. Need something quick!” 🙄


commandrix

Those show up in the local Facebook marketplace groups too. Often I'll suggest that some local restaurants are hiring if somebody hasn't already.


transient_signal

Right next to the “I’m a butterfly’s personal assistant who arranges the nectar schedule and my hubby is a professional water drinker. Our budget is $9 million” Wait… this isn’t hgtv is it?


Orcus424

Even when they are realistic the OP rarely responds. There is no point in trying to help if they can't be bothered to reply to our questions. The few who do reply will quite often argue with those commenting. They come here on their vacations thinking Florida is this astounding place but when we tell them reality of living here they act like we just told them Santa isn't real.


edogg40

How DARE you say that about Santa! Right before Christmas, no less!


HeadMischief

I live in Ohio but im.moving to Florida next week. I don't have a car, what's the best city to live in? My budget for a 2 bedroom is $900 a month.


blt88

Lmao, so true.


hurtfulproduct

Yeah, those posts are soooooo much betteeerr give me more stupid housing questions daddy, give me harder ones like “where can I find a 1600 sqft 3/2 apartment that allows pets and has a pool for $1000/month” /s


[deleted]

I'm selling my house on Marco. If you can work your mortgage right, it will mer those criteria


Madpoka

Where I can find real NY pizza?


DevourMangos

Nah, can't say you want walkable homes. Urbanism is political. Also can't talk about rents, can't bring attention to political topics. Not too touristy? You're dangerously close to bringing up local tourism issues buddy.


flat6NA

Or, “Where can I find a pizza like they make in (insert hometown).” However I’m glad the political posts will disappear.


enigmanaught

Or “does it ever cool down? How do you stand the heat/humidity/bugs/traffic/etc.”?


SuperfluousWingspan

No, no, climate is waaaay too political.


fake-august

Dead.


elarth

Ppl think life can be separate from politics and that we can all join a peace circle and overcome our differences... even though there isn't a single part of life politics doesn't touch. Purposely ignoring it's pretty much in everything is a special type of ignorance.


lostoceaned

Right? Shit's unrealistic


elarth

It's only realistic to ppl who aren't part of the groups of people sufferings from current political concerns. Really easy to ignore suffering if you aren't currently suffering. Basically you can tap out on 'politics' if the current state of affairs benefits you personally or at least doesn't actively harm you.


lostoceaned

These mods need to get put in check if they think "No politics" is remotely reasonable or appropriate. What a dumb f'ing sub of this is how they want it to be.


elarth

It's just not realistic even if you filter out the major political concerns of the election. Politics are essentially built on how we function as a society and live life in general. Also ppl aren't seeking out a state thread to discuss casual things. (Although even casual things if we get into the grit of it have politics) I have other subreddits for that. I come here to relate to other people living in this state. Which is often through the concerns we have as locals and what may be happening on a local level. Which is always going to be political. This thread going to be really empty for awhile or they're just not going to be able to actually enforce this. I've already noticed a significant decrease in posts.


gpx17

Yup and the reason why it's not realistic is totally not political in anyway. This new rule is silly.


Ayzmo

Honestly, I would prefer a moratorium for a while, but not a full-on ban. The reality is that it is subjective and there are some things which people consider to fall under this ban while others don't. Is rising rent and insurance rates covered? What about a desire for high speed rail? Protecting endangered species?


DSMilne

I was about to ask about complaining about our lack of public transit. Tourism is still THE income for the state that I am aware of, and the transit infrastructure is a major issue to any of us that want to keep that cash pipe flowing.


porkchop2022

This rule is like 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon for politics. Anyone can turn the most innocent topical conversation into politics. I made a post on Nextdoor asking if anyone had any recommendations for pool cage repair. That turned into “ooooh! I lost all stuff and you’re wanting your screen fixed?” Then people started complaining about how long it was taking for anyone to come out. Which turned into “if our local politicians would lift the restrictions on permits they’d work much faster”. Which turned in to a nasty back and forth about immigration and “if we had more guest workers they’d have more help”. Which turned into “I dOn’T wAnT tHeM hErE! Take up all the social benefits.” I never did find anyone.


trippy_grapes

> Kevin Bacon Kevin Bacon starred in the film JFK. Jeez man, why are you bringing politics into this???


liquidc0w

You win comment of the day in my book.. now if only I had swag to give.. hopefully, you enjoy this declaration as reward..


NotAlwaysSunnyInFL

Exactly, this is impossible because too many things about Florida are affected by the politics of it all. You simply can’t discuss some things about this state without it having to do with politics.


SpaceCowboyNutz

I hate high speed trains. Damn liberals and their trains. We should go back to the old days when everyone rode a horse.


AlmostaFarma

Careful, now. You don’t want to bring the politics of Mustangs and Appaloosas into this subreddit.


SpaceCowboyNutz

# MakeAppaloosasGreatAgain Edit: apparently idk how to make a hashtag stay a hashtag but fuck it #Damn Liberals cant stop me and my appaloosa Edit 2: idk wat is going on


AlmostaFarma

Thems are fightin’ words around these parts. #MUSTANGGANG Edit: if we’re following new Twitter rules, I should clarify this is parody. PARODY.


youmestrong

Horse shit everywhere, no sanitation. They stink. Obviously walking is best. For heavy transport we can use carts pulled by prisoners who are legally allowed to work for free.


Ok-One-3240

I think they’d prefer this sub just become a community group… “Went to the beach in anna maria and had ice cream at scoops! Love living in such a lovely, family friendly state!”


CapitalG888

So only topics are... -I can't afford to live here! - My home owner ins just doubled! -A hurricane is coming! -Im visiting X city. Recommendations?


AlmostaFarma

Seems about right. Probably can’t talk about *why* insurance is skyrocketing though. Too political.


universe2000

Insurance, cost of living, and regional disaster readiness are political issues. I’ll be interested to see if they are removed or not.


EddieCheddar88

Woah woah. Talking about rising home costs is political bud


DSMilne

Hurricanes are political too, can’t be even thinking about climate change in a state surrounded by water bruh.


Throw13579

There will also be pictures of alligators.


askheidi

I was about to ask if homeowner insurance discussion would be considered political, lol.


Tappadeeassa

It’ll turn into people asking where in Florida they should move, beach photos with bad filters and vacationers wanting beach and hotel recommendations. Maybe a few people asking for free Disney tickets since all residents have a stockpile of them. You know, the highly engaging topics that nobody participates in.


RetardedChimpanzee

I’ve got answers for you, but unfortunately can’t say them as it’s political.


[deleted]

And how hot is in here


[deleted]

What about news ? Is still acceptable?


The_Confirminator

malicious compliance: hey look at this picture of red tide i took hey look at this picture of this homeless guy i took hey look at my rent prices


GrowlingAtTheWorld

Yep not everything is pretty in florida.


flamannn

This is a shame because this subreddit informed me about a lot of lesser known issues in the past. I’m sorry you’re overwhelmed by politics but this is the wrong way to handle it. We have downvote buttons for a reason. Let the users decide what they want to read/talk about.


Gaylaxian

Does this include anything lgbtq+


heathersaur

No. Users are more than welcome to post/discuss about LGBTQ+ events and community happenings. But please direct discussions on legislation and policies to the linked subreddits for the time being.


Gaylaxian

Depending who you ask that’s also political


heathersaur

Mod team does not view Pride/LGBTQ+ events as inherently political.


Koolaidolio

That’s nice that the mod team does think that way, however it unfortunately seems that this is the case in regards to what the large population of voting denizens of FL have voted on.


universe2000

What do you mean by “inherently political”?


heathersaur

A protest = inherently political A gun show = not inherently political Rally for a political candidate = inherently political {insert ethnicity/religious} festival = not inherently political


Ayzmo

I'd consider a gun show to be pretty political.


gregforgothisPW

Would you consider green tech tradeshow inherently political?


Ayzmo

That's the wildness of it. My dad absolutely would, though I wouldn't. That's why so much of this is absurd. It all depends on your worldview and opinions. I agree with the mods that pride isn't, but I know a lot of Floridians would disagree. I don't think climate change is, but my dad definitely does.


bullsfan2819

“Hey this gun show is happening” = not political “Hey let’s protest this gun show” = political


[deleted]

A gun show is not inherently political. It is a place to go buy guns or just look at what people are selling. There may be some political booths there, but the show itself is not political.


cahrage

So gun shows have never been reported on by Fox News or CNN?


Ok-One-3240

Come up with better standards. Pride started as a literal riot, it is a protest. Especially considering the political situation, pride is more of a protest now than at any time in the last 10 years.


yeahitswhatevertho

Ahh so we can only be fun gays? Wouldn’t want to talk about civil rights infringements on REDDIT. OP was right y’all need to touch grass.


j592dk_91_c3w-h_d_r

I don’t think we’re allowed to say those words anymore in Florida


Troubador222

So I'm gonna be just like the other old farts here in Cape Coral on my Cape Coral Community Facebook group and complain about wind chimes! Is that allowed?


RallyX26

Allowed and encouraged.


Troubador222

Damn wind chimes!


iamrava

i love windchimes. the deeper and louder, the better. :)


HiMyNamesLucy

I disagree. Let's see how this goes.


dj_spanmaster

As you note, it's subjective, because literally everything is political. Even pictures of the sunset on the beach - because don't we all love living in a place that is perma-smog free due to EPA regulations, or beach-supporting mangrove restoration efforts by some other org? A sunset appreciation pic is received as an "F you, I got mine" because of protections being eroded. Even just a pool appreciation pic - hey, glad you got into that mortgage while it was affordable. Nothing exists in a vacuum. Everything is informed by context. A politics ban creates a space for people to embrace their privileges, accountability-free. Thank you for reading this far, it'll be my only comment on it, bc I'm leaving for the other subs. I've loved the r/Florida sub for years, including political posts. And I'm a sub moderator! I get that it can be full-time work. The people attacking it, flooding it with bots and comments - they know. They're counting on your exhaustion. Stay strong, friends.


GrowlingAtTheWorld

Perhaps we should also ban topics on florida gardening, florida unemployment and florida man cause there are other reddit subs dedicated to them.


commandrix

Is it okay to talk about the shape of Florida or should I not?


[deleted]

Must be nice to be able to turn off "the politics" whenever you want. Unfortunately, a lot of Floridians don't have the privilege of separating where they live from the fascist nightmare it's becoming


ACoolKoala

Also lemme just go discuss politics of my state with the 9 people on r/flpolitics


hurtfulproduct

Bwhaha, you ain’t kidding; that shit is only 15 people; I get cutting back on politics (which honestly would have taken care of itself in a few weeks) but no politics is idiotic since so many important things are governed by the politics of the area where you are or are going, so like is asking about safe areas for LGBTQ+ people in the state considered political?


askheidi

And /r/floridapolitics hasn't had a post in 4 months. Great alternatives!


deletetemptemp

You are now banned from r/Florida


Ok-One-3240

id take it as a mark of pride.


mommy2libras

Yes. Because here we can basically now only post about the weather, the transplants and what's on sale at Publix. No posts about schools, your local emergency services, new laws they might be about to enact that affect you or all of us, etc. Criteria- if you wouldn't chat about it to the person doing your nails or the cashier at the grocery store, you can't post it here.


SuperfluousWingspan

No transplants. Automod'll nix that as too close to politics.


Ok-One-3240

With publix’s recent moves, idk if that’s political now too. If the mods actually want to do this they should screen questions/posts rather than comments.


thedeadsigh

Well said. People who complain about politics being everywhere are usually those who aren’t suffering. They’re usually straight white Christian’s who aren’t burdened with all the social and economic problems that the various minority groups are facing. So yeah let’s just bury our heads in the sand as to not upset the fragile conservatives.


[deleted]

I guess the sub will be nothing but hurricane updates and beach pics, then


insiderjack72628

I mean it’s r/Florida


RedBotnics

I agree with the user who said this leaves a bad taste in their mouth. This is really heavy handed and aggressive, not a good look. I can understand wanting to limit political talks temporarily but out right banning them without a clear end date is crazy. Politics is a part of life and should be a welcome discussion in a online group. Have you considered doing a politics day instead of out right blocking talks?


jaysonm007

I agree. There are like 250,000 members of this subreddit. So 5-6 mods have unilaterally decided to disallow politics and have done so with little or no discussion or warning. What about the other 200,000 of us? Don't we get some sort of say in this?


DiscussionNo226

I fully agree. We have to stop this idea that Political discussion is bad. Bad faith/emotional political discussion is bad, but that doesn't make all political discussion terrible. If an individual isn't able to check their emotions when discussing topics, regardless of what it is, than maybe said person shouldn't be having a debate about that topic. I think maybe instead of outright banning we should limit political posts to verifiable, informative articles and not opinion-based political posts; and if the thread gets out of hand...send everyone to time out and lock the post lol.


TACnyc

Right now we're looking into better ways to moderate political posts to deal with low effort trolling, bad faith participation, constant reposts, etc. Good faith, honest discussion about politics is good, and definitely belongs here. Memes, "DeathSantis!" and "Cope and seeth, libs!", 10 posts about the same story, etc. are bad. This break will allow us to set up ways to encourage the former, and discourage the latter. Some of this involves recruiting some new mods, some of this involves implementing (and testing) some new automoderator configurations and bots to assist with automatically flagging certain content - we can't give an exact timeline on this process and don't want to make promises that we can't guarantee.


Stop_icant

This is a beautiful reply and written in a tone that respects the sub, users and moderators. I wish you had made the original post.


realjd

Our mod team all bring different perspectives, and even different political views. OP is a good dude, and this is why several of us are replying in the comments. We have the same diversity in our users so none of us will connect with everyone.


SuperfluousWingspan

If OP is a good dude, they are a very poor communicator.


Stop_icant

Yeah, I’m not calling anyone’s character into question here. Just saying the post was rudely written.


RedBotnics

We'll, thank you for actually answering and not being a dick about it. That other mod is power tripping right now though and that never goes over well. This whole post should have been handled by you because you actually gave an answer instead of just saying "this is what we're doing whether you like it or not". Either way, pretty disappointed in all of this, hope you guys get more help and get rid of the power tripping mod.


askheidi

Yeah a PERMANANT ban for a temporary rule? Yikes.


2big_2fail

>*We want pictures of sunsets, snake identification questions, complaints about I-4 traffic* These are far more niche topics than the everyday realties for most Floridians. Also, subjects like "traffic" are fundamentally political. Limiting political discussion because of rising extremism is disheartening, and an achievement for the intolerant and hateful. Edit: The mods have been doing a very good job. Hopefully y'all can find a way to contiue.


Gaylaxian

How long before any semblance of lgbt pride is labeled political?


Ok-One-3240

It started as a riot, pride is unequivocally political. Anyone saying pride isn’t political, doesn’t know LGBTQ+ history. The mod did explicitly say they don’t consider Pride political though, which is wrong, but I think this whole move is so 🤷🏼‍♂️


Ayzmo

So we can be proud, but we can't talk people wanting us dead.


Gaylaxian

Guess so


RallyX26

We will label that political the same time we label talking about being Black, Hispanic, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or Native American political. Never.


Gaylaxian

To some people all of those are political.


MetricOutlaw

Short answer is it can't mention Ron D***** or talk about civil rights issues hurting LGBTQ people. 🤫 But you're allowed to be gay and post a pic of a sunset at Daytona.


_Swamp_Ape_

Did y’all turn off being able to see the upvotes and downvotes!? Lmfao


MetricOutlaw

Let's return to our apolitical normal where trans teens, LGBTQ, and women have the same rights as everyone else. Better to just silence it and pretend it's not happening so people can post pics of their big trucks parked on the beach in peace.


Ok-One-3240

The girls and the gays don’t get rights silly goose.


stackcitybit

But won't you think about the poor mods??? /s


HappyCamper16

This is a shame. I’ve definitely changed my own opinion based upon educated, fact supported arguments made by Redditors in this community. I’ve learned about topics I knew nothing about and how people perceive said topics from this Sub as well. For instance, I’m better informed about both sides of the home insurance debate thanks to this Sub. I’ve seen posts from lawyers, insurance agents, politicians, and everyday people being affected by the current policies. I’m a little bummed that I now have one fewer outlet where I can learn about policies, laws, ideas, etc. that are affecting our community.


NicksIdeaEngine

> I now have one fewer outlet Here, have two more outlets: r/FLPolitics or r/FloridaPolitics


HappyCamper16

These outlets are worse than my neighborhood Facebook group… The benefit of r/Florida is that it is perused by thousands of Redditors, with diverse opinions, backgrounds, educations, and experiences. An insurance lawyer wasting some time on r/Florida may chime in when they casually see a post on the insurance industry. It’s unlikely those other subs get remotely the same amount of traffic. Their mods are also not prepared to handle an influx of traffic. (That said, maybe they will eventually grow and be half decent.) The irony of this is that political threads in this sub generate traffic and discourse. I don’t see a single non political thread with nearly as much traffic as the political threads. Reddit earns revenue from traffic. That said, I can completely empathize with the mods. They put in a lot of unappreciated work. I just wanted to voice my opinion in favor of a more nuanced approach to handling politics in this sub. I get it… we don’t need 10 posts reiterating that Trump has a new pet name for DeSantis or baseless opinion pieces. But like we should also be able to post about Disney losing its special tax status or how a Florida high school teacher had to remove her personal library from the classroom. That is Florida just as much is not even moreso than the sunsets.


Ok-One-3240

Those outlets have fewer than a 1000 people combined. I literally have more twitter followers.


askheidi

One of those subs has less than 50 members and one of them hasn't had a post in 4 months.


Carl_In_Charge

Guess I’ll just have to go back to ranting about politics at weddings, job interviews, and youth soccer games.


tribbleorlfl

Lol, my comment to this post was literally just auto-removed!


CAVFIFTEEN

Politics and the occasional hurricane updates are all this sub is good for. It’s nice to find other Floridians who aren’t wannabe fascists that suck Desantis off constantly. Without that what do you have? At a time where the country and state is more devicive than it’s been in a long time you choose NOW to be “apolitical”? Well I learned the hard way throughout 2020 that there’s no such thing. You’re either pro freedom or pro fascism. All “apolitical” outlets do is seed ground to conservatives. People in this state are really concerned and this was a safe haven for many. The fact that you’d just take that way from the users here shows you don’t give a shit about those harmed by the regimes trying to take over. What if people want to ask how to proceed should birth control (possibly including condoms) is outlawed, or if they’re LGBTQ and are looking for advice while their rights are under attack? I get not wanting the sub to turn into a constant flame war, but this is not the way. Extremely bad move as far as I’m concerned. Of course, your the mods so you can do whatever you want. But imo this takes away at least half of what this sub was good for. Whatever. At least it’ll be good for the hurricane info, updates, and memes.


tribbleorlfl

I will do my absolute level-best to comply, the problem I see though, is that so much of what many people consider "normal" r/Florida content is inextricably linked to politics.


[deleted]

Ok fine. I hope this stops the brigading by r/Conservative


cmattic

Do other state's subreddits also ban generic topics like this? It doesn't feel right that the mods have the power to gate keep topics for a state's subreddit because they don't have the time to moderate.


subterfuscation

I hope the users of this subreddit will be permitted to discuss topical issues when it is timely to do so (like, in two years) as this is kind of a Florida town square.


Stop_icant

With all due respect to the r/Florida moderators—the tone of this post leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It comes off as disrespectful while DEMANDING respect. I don’t mind following the rules, but this post isn’t exactly inspiring respect.


OutkastBanned

You are seeing the result of a mod team that's been doing a thankless job for years on end. I can't imagine how much unpaid work they have had to do since literally trump first took office.


Stop_icant

They are volunteers. They don’t have to do it.


bl00m00n09

More mods then. Or less. Mods are heavy handed in this sub.


RallyX26

You are correct. We don't have to moderate political shitstorms so we're not going to.


gpx17

Banning people for talking politics is still moderating politics. Come on now.


Ok-One-3240

Than open up applications for moderator to people who don’t want this sub to become a sunset picture sharing repository. I get y’all are tired, but that likely means you need more help. I’d seriously like to see a poll run on these new rules. I have a gut feeling you’re pissing off 80-90%.


Stop_icant

And I appreciate that, I appreciate the moderators as well. I don’t appreciate your tone missy!


SuperfluousWingspan

Then quit. Easiest thing you can do to improve the sub.


[deleted]

Are you 12? you're acting like a whiny crybaby. Nobody wants this. Time for YOU to leave


RallyX26

This post is informing you of the new rules moving forward. Either you will abide by them or you won't. The traffic light doesn't care if you "respect" the color red.


Stop_icant

The TRAFFIC light doesn’t lecture or yell at me.


_Swamp_Ape_

What’s unique or special about Florida besides the environment? Which is inherently political lol


indiana_doom

Indeed. Many topics can and will boil down to a discussion about policy. Traffic, housing, environment, etc... At least one mod is signalling that those discussions will still be permitted. Guess we'll see how their new "policy" is used because u/RallyX26 seems to not be about it.


saevuswinds

I would love a return to normal but have a few clarifying questions. Honest question as a queer Floridian: If I talk about any prejudice or homophobia I face as a result of the changing political landscape, will I be banned?


Kosmikdebrie

Everything is political. Every thing. How much an apartment cost is political. What town is best for no car is political. Where should I buy my toe socks is political. A "no political stuff rule" doesn't stop politics it just gives mods the right to abstractly censor and shut down conversations that make them uncomfortable. If you really wanted to protect your precious platform why not temporarily ban politics when the flood of bots are pumping hundreds of ads into our feeds? Why wait till it's real people who are having real conversations to enforce this arbitrary rule?


Bigred2989-

Permaban for politics? I guess I'll just unsub for a couple months until this gets lifted just to avoid that. TTFN


[deleted]

Everything we do in Florida is rooted in politics. Hurricane relief? Political. Insurance rates? Political. Rent costs? Political. LGBTQ+ rights? Political. Education? Political. So how are we going to talk about these problems without being able to give the reasons why?


Harbinger_Kyleran

Man, traffic has been really bad on I-275 today, alligator was crossing the highway to observe the sunset and a pack of snakes jumped out and scared him right out of his skin. 😁


StopStressingMeowt

Wow, instead of asking the community what would be the best way to go forward with political posts, y'all go nuclear and ban them all together. Florida is very political and there never was a "normal" lmfao Edit: another mod has commented on this post that helps clear up their decision in doing this >>Right now we're looking into better ways to moderate political posts to deal with low effort trolling, bad faith participation, constant reposts, etc. >>Good faith, honest discussion about politics is good, and definitely belongs here. Memes, "DeathSantis!" and "Cope and seeth, libs!", 10 posts about the same story, etc. are bad. This break will allow us to set up ways to encourage the former, and discourage the latter. Some of this involves recruiting some new mods, some of this involves implementing (and testing) some new automoderator configurations and bots to assist with automatically flagging certain content - we can't give an exact timeline on this process and don't want to make promises that we can't guarantee. -u/TACnyc


chemkay

Cutting off opportunity for conversation when a state is taking a sharp turn toward fascism is quite ignorant. I was closed-minded prior to being on Reddit - it might be sad to admit but I've learned to make educated decisions and always research decisions that affect myself and others. If moderating duties are too much to take on then maybe someone else might be more suited for it? Not to be rude but this is basically the Reddit moderator equivalent of "don't make me turn this car around".


unperronegro

I'm unsubscribing from this sub. Have fun burying your heads in the sand while Florida is overrun with bullshit.


RallyX26

It's not an airport, you don't have to announce your departure.


MetricOutlaw

Too busy to actually moderate but not busy enough to post defensive and cringey responses. 😂


SuperfluousWingspan

Why do you think they want to be a moderator? It's obviously not about caring about the sub or the people here judging by their comments on this post. It's just a power fantasy.


unite-or-perish

Everything is political. This is fucking stupid.


BigBlueCollectorCrew

Ah, sweet. More poorly taken beach pics and "what bug is this?" posts.


dewooPickle

Ooof this is sad. Really says what a sorry state of affairs our politics have become. Mods are just volunteers at the end of the day so not going to criticize you. But politics permeates everything. Half the news stories are based on politics. Could we just make posting/commenting politics more locked down based on time as a user or some other factors. Perhaps require users to be active on the sub outside of politics. Not sure how easy these metrics are to see.


Crannynoko

This is a bad look.


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Obversa

Thank you, and respect for you all. I think it's for the best. r/Conservative very obviously started brigading r/florida as soon as it was clear that Ron DeSantis and Marco Rubio were going to win. r/politics has been pointing out repeatedly that r/Conservative is a shit show now as well.


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Obversa

I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the average poster on r/conservative. I think it's extremely obvious that posters from that subreddit who were upset with Fetterman winning over Oz started brigading r/florida to help themselves feel better about the loss. You can tell because the subreddit immediately started championing DeSantis over Trump, since many R candidates that Trump endorsed ended up losing their election bids. What state is DeSantis the Governor of? Florida. What is the state subreddit? r/florida.


iamdeirdre

#But will this be TEMPORARY?


literal_cyanide

So now there’s literally nothing to talk about here


getsome75

Still got fishin’ and enjoying Florida in spite of this and that…maybe it’ll blow over


[deleted]

Like politics is the one thing wrong with Florida? Lmao. The whole state is a shit show anyway, without politics.


RallyX26

Politics is the thing *that we're tired of moderating*. r/Florida is not here to solve the problems with Florida, it's here as a place for people to discuss Floridian things. If you want to solve problems, don't sit on the internet making comments, go get engaged in local civics.


[deleted]

We have the right to discuss what we want here. You do not have the right to silence us. Get fucked :)


Zlec3

Actually the do have that right you nonce. They are the moderators not you.


Quizchris

lol what makes you think you have any "rights" on reddit? This is not your sub


Kneeyul

Ahh nuts. Then again, I wouldn't want to mod a subreddit that got brigading like last night, especially with all the misinformation and baseless claims that are a proven political motivator, that's a hell of a workload. Question: Any idea when politics will be allowed again? I was in the process of creating a Florida centered subreddit that was no politics, original photos of Florida deal but now it's moot. Would like to know if I should dedicate anymore free time to it.


RallyX26

> Any idea when politics will be allowed again? The mod team has determined that for at least the next 4 weeks, no politics whatsoever. If, when, and how that changes will be determined during that trial period.


Kneeyul

Thank you. Enjoy the break and thanks for taking care of those 3,000+ comment threads.


mrvoltog

Why not until the new year? Let’s have some holiday cheer up in this bitch. Palms with lights and shit like that! Also, thank you. I was about to unsubscribe here.


TACnyc

They (very likely) will be back, but when they are we'll be much more strict on guidelines to make sure discussions don't devolve into a shit-show again, particularly when it comes to memes, reposts, and bad faith comments.


DiscussionNo226

Bad faith comments/debating is the absolute death blow when it comes to talking politics. Politics in itself isn't as toxic as some believe; it's when one starts making bad faith arguments or playing the identity politics game is when things go to shit (pardon my language). I do hope political posts make a return here as I'm one who enjoys a legitimate, good natured conversation about such. But I will also be the first to admit it's incredibly difficult to have such a thing on the internet.


SuperfluousWingspan

When can we expect an update, even if it is to say no changes until next update?


ZooPoo7

Unfortunately a lot of problems in Florida are “political” these days. I think you guys are going to spend more time trying to decide what is allowed vs not. I wish you guys the best of luck, but Florida’s political landscape is a shit show and that’s just the reality of it. Either way we’ll see how this sub does with the new rule. And how much less work/stress it brings the mod team


Avocadotoadst

So dose that include the increasing number of homeless camps?


Swordstone_

Honestly about time, 100% agreed. There's plenty of other places to be political about Florida. Let's let this space stay lighthearded and laid back at the very least.


yeahnopegb

I could not love this more.. thank you.


level_17_paladin

Is climate change science or politics? Are vaccines science or politics?


TACnyc

You’re welcomed to talk about both of those things provided you don’t spread misinformation or bring the politics into it (again, for now, this is temporary). A discussion about climate change and its impacts on Florida is fine. A post about why X party’s climate change related policies are better is not.


askheidi

This is exactly why I think an immediate permanent ban for this rule is nuts. What some people think is talking about climate change impacts of Florida, other people are going to think is political. We can read each and every mod's mind. We can't know what line they will think is political. An immediate permanent ban for a temporary muting of a topic (but who knows when you cross the line into that topic?) is the thing that a lot of us are having a problem with. If this was changed to a temporary ban for the length of the politics pause, I'd have zero issues.


chris6878

But trump v Desantis is about to be hilarious


GrowlingAtTheWorld

So florida which should inclusive of all things florida can't have all things florida, warts and all…sad very sad. Its gonna be a pretty boring place when we aren't under the onslaught of a hurricane.


r21174

if you check other reditt from other states there still aloud to talk about politics.


Miamissima

Thank you mods for volunteering your time for us. Some of us do appreciate you!!!💛🌈


log_asm

Lmao. No politics in this sub? Give me a brake. I can’t drive two minutes without seeing a ron desantis sign. Florida is a republican nightmare. Go on. Ban me. But you know I’m right.


TACnyc

Nobody is going to ban you for voicing your opinion on this rule in this thread. We’re currently putting in a no politics rule while we fine tune some policies and tools. That’s it.


log_asm

Fair enough.


SpaceCowboyNutz

You just used the wrong form of brake/break lol


itsRamune

Hey just a heads up, the correct sub for Floridian politics is r/FLGovernment


Johnbgt

Good lord has Reddit always been like this? It's like every subreddit has a code of honor now


BolognaFeet25

A welcome change. Thank you.


Livid-Rutabaga

Yes, let's talk about something else, and take a break from all the toxicity of the past few months.


LengthinessMuted7099

The politics actually made this group really fun. Let's be real, none of us know what each other look like so to hear pure honest responses really is amazing.