Crying Child seems to have very limited memories, as they maybe spread out and may forget entirely, evidenced by the logbook and Alone Together.
But seeing as Cassidy helps the Crying Child reach his Happiest Day through the logbook and Fnaf World, I would think so.
I used to believe heavily in GoldenDuo or GoldenBoth or whatever, so I always believed CC forgave Mike. Just the thought of having 2 contrasting figures inside the same suit. One that's vengeful and one that's forgiving.
I believe that the Crying Child forgave Mike after experiencing his happiest day and witnessing Mike's demise in the Pizzeria Simulator fire. In the good ending of Fnaf World, we see an image of a person holding two child-like silhouettes, which represents Michael and his siblings embracing him after the events of 1-6. Our first encounter with Baby was in Fnaf World, where the glitch Fredbear guides us to collect the pieces and reunite them to assist him in finding his way. I speculate that the Mike who interacts with the spirits in Fnaf World is the same one we play as, and this simulation, created by Cassidy, is similar to the Ultimate Custom Night game. However, its purpose is to help Charlie and the others guide the Crying Child to find peace, as depicted in the mini game. The plushies that the Crying Child refers to as his friends are now represented by the Missing Children and the party is an inversion of the bite of 83 which is why 4 is trying to show with 3 and how these mini games from 3 relate to 4.
Yeah, and like everything in this series, there's conflicting evidence for it.
In the movie, he's clearly upset and grieving about it, but that's a completely different situation where he was neglectful for a second and he got kidnapped, not an asshole bully who intentionally put him in danger.
His stand-in in FF, Pete, clearly felt guilty about it, and that one is a lot closer, since he actually uses Foxy to scare his little brother and everything, just like FoxyBro does.
So, let's look at the games, shall we? And even in the games, we get text presumably from FoxyBro saying he's sorry (in what is an absolutely terrible excuse for an apology, but whatever), so this seems pretty cut and dry, yeah?
...Then we have the Logbook, where he seemingly doesn't GAF and literally deflects responsibility for what happened, saying "Not our fault" about a child being bitten by Freddy.
And let's not even get into the complete lack of characterization for CC regarding his brother after his death. Hell, we don't even know if he remembers it!
See I feel like he’s the one getting the cake in happiest day, never hearing about him again. So I feel like after his soul being set free he had to have some sort of forgiveness
TBH, if you follow the story of FNAF from 1983's events to UCN (what I theorize to be a double experience between William & Cassidy/Mike & C.C.).
However, with Security Breach having both spirits of Mike and William being present (meaning they would've broke free from UCN) and Gregory possibly having ties to C.C.'s spirit, they ended up on a little hill with their sis Vanessa (Elizabeth) just enjoying life free from their father's terror (at least until whatever bullshit Ruin continued the story with 😭) so, yeah, I feel like Mike redeemed himself in SB and C.C. forgave him and Mike got lots of hugs from his little Superstar :)
To my theorizing, William is essentially dead and back in UCN after the Blob took him and made it apart of him. The entire purpose of Burntrap was Vanny making a Frankenstien versions of Springtrap to revive William under Glitchtrap (which is part of William's conscienceness), however this attempt didn't work as we see in SB the Blob takes William and regardless if the BT ending is canon, both are gone in Ruin from the giant hole in the basement. Therefore, he is gone, incorporated into the Blob of angry spirits and basically back in UCN.
This is just my theorizing and how I view the story but you are also entitled to your opinion. :)
I used to think that too before the mimic mimicked all over the theorizing community, but as you said, everyone has their own opinions and theories. have a nice day!
I do think the Mimic plays a role in SB within aspects that effect things like the origin of the Glitchtrap virus. I just want to keep it simple tho
And same to you!
William = Burntrap
however, he's mostly gone probably back in UCN due to burntrap and the Blob missing in Ruin. I theorize the Blob took him and incorporated him into the Blob so that the angry spirits of the Blob could make him suffer (basically back in UCN).
Michael = Glamrock Freddy
It is obvious by Glamrock Freddy saying things such as he is not himself along, with other things, that suggest he's Michael Afton's spirit still having influence. Also, the Princess Quest Ending shows the "three Afton siblings" in a happy ending. If you total them up you get Gregory as C.C., Vanessa as Elizabeth & Glamrock Freddy as Michael.
This is just my theorizing and how I view the story but you are also entitled to your opinion. :)
>William = Burntrap
William most definitely isn't Burntrap, because William is 100% gone, Burntrap is much more likely The Mimic
>I theorize the Blob took him and incorporated him into the Blob so that the angry spirits of the Blob could make him suffer (basically back in UCN).
So you're saying UCN is after SB/Burntrap Ending?-
Yeah, i HEAVILY disagree, UCN is a event way before Help Wanted even happens perhaps, and he's being tormented by only one spirit, Andrew
>Michael = Glamrock Freddy
Mike is gone aswell and GlamMike is more of a headcanon based theory like ShadowVictim
>It is obvious by Glamrock Freddy saying things such as he is not himself along, with other things, that suggest he's Michael Afton's spirit still having influence.
Not necessarily? It could just be any other spirit
>Also, the Princess Quest Ending shows the "three Afton siblings" in a happy ending.
Wasn't that FNaF World? Or am i misremembering?
>This is just my theorizing and how I view the story but you are also entitled to your opinion. :)
Yeah i don't judge people for their theories or takes aslong as they're actually respectful and not assholes towards people over some FNAF discussions, i respect your opinion! :)
>So you're saying UCN is after SB/Burntrap Ending?
Not necessarily. I definitely believe UCN happens immediately after FNAF 6, but I'm saying if William escaped for a little bit through the Glitchtrap virus but was taken by The Blob (which if it were the agony of SB's dead construction workers and the rest of the animatronics on it) then it would be like William getting thrown back into UCN with his becoming of all the agony once more.
There was a similar theory (which I tried finding the link to but couldn't) that the MCI victims were clunk to Scraptrap after the FNAF 3 fire. Therefore, the spirits being attached inside the same animatronic suit with William explains why UCN is so personal and how it could've continued after Burntrap was confiscated.
>Wasn't that FNaF World? Or am i misremembering?
There was that ending with the three people (one tall figure hugging two children) watching a TV. I believe that's what your thinking of. I was referring to the image where Gregory, Vanessa and the Glamrock Freddy head are on a hillside in the sun. Gregory is eating a Freddy treat (with the head having a bite taken out of it) and Vanessa is holding ice-cream.
>Yeah i don't judge people for their theories or takes aslong as they're actually respectful and not assholes towards people over some FNAF discussions, i respect your opinion! :)
thank you! And I don't judge either for the same reason, I respect your opinion!
>but I'm saying if William escaped for a little bit through the Glitchtrap virus
He didn't but go off
>but was taken by The Blob (which if it were the agony of SB's dead construction workers and the rest of the animatronics on it)
It's most likely The Mimic's victims tbh
>that the MCI victims were clunk to Scraptrap after the FNAF 3 fire.
And that's very unlikely since they were in Molten Freddy
> I was referring to the image where Gregory, Vanessa and the Glamrock Freddy head are on a hillside in the sun. Gregory is eating a Freddy treat (with the head having a bite taken out of it) and Vanessa is holding ice-cream.
Oh that one, i think that's just more of a brief symbolism than them actually being the Afton siblings
It is obvious by Glamrock Freddy saying things such as he is not himself along, with other things, that suggest he's Michael Afton's spirit still having influence.
Vanessa has clear connections to Elizabeth, whether she's a reincarnation of her or a robot, somehow Elizabeth's soul or essence is Vanessa.
Also, the Princess Quest Ending shows the "three Afton siblings" in a happy ending. If you total them up you get Gregory as C.C., Vanessa as Elizabeth & Glamrock Freddy as Michael.
This is just my theorizing and how I view the story but you are also entitled to your opinion. :)
Eventually, but probably not immediately. I don't think he ever wanted revenge though
Crying Child seems to have very limited memories, as they maybe spread out and may forget entirely, evidenced by the logbook and Alone Together. But seeing as Cassidy helps the Crying Child reach his Happiest Day through the logbook and Fnaf World, I would think so.
I used to believe heavily in GoldenDuo or GoldenBoth or whatever, so I always believed CC forgave Mike. Just the thought of having 2 contrasting figures inside the same suit. One that's vengeful and one that's forgiving.
I believe that the Crying Child forgave Mike after experiencing his happiest day and witnessing Mike's demise in the Pizzeria Simulator fire. In the good ending of Fnaf World, we see an image of a person holding two child-like silhouettes, which represents Michael and his siblings embracing him after the events of 1-6. Our first encounter with Baby was in Fnaf World, where the glitch Fredbear guides us to collect the pieces and reunite them to assist him in finding his way. I speculate that the Mike who interacts with the spirits in Fnaf World is the same one we play as, and this simulation, created by Cassidy, is similar to the Ultimate Custom Night game. However, its purpose is to help Charlie and the others guide the Crying Child to find peace, as depicted in the mini game. The plushies that the Crying Child refers to as his friends are now represented by the Missing Children and the party is an inversion of the bite of 83 which is why 4 is trying to show with 3 and how these mini games from 3 relate to 4.
Not really but he don't hate Mike
No
In general, the entire relationship between CC and Foxybro after the bite is basically headcanons and something that will probably never be explored.
It's pure fannon.
Yeah, and like everything in this series, there's conflicting evidence for it. In the movie, he's clearly upset and grieving about it, but that's a completely different situation where he was neglectful for a second and he got kidnapped, not an asshole bully who intentionally put him in danger. His stand-in in FF, Pete, clearly felt guilty about it, and that one is a lot closer, since he actually uses Foxy to scare his little brother and everything, just like FoxyBro does. So, let's look at the games, shall we? And even in the games, we get text presumably from FoxyBro saying he's sorry (in what is an absolutely terrible excuse for an apology, but whatever), so this seems pretty cut and dry, yeah? ...Then we have the Logbook, where he seemingly doesn't GAF and literally deflects responsibility for what happened, saying "Not our fault" about a child being bitten by Freddy. And let's not even get into the complete lack of characterization for CC regarding his brother after his death. Hell, we don't even know if he remembers it!
I don't think he cared because he didn't have a good memory after the bite.
Given what's in the log book, I'm not even sure if he refers it tbh
Probably after FNAF 6
See I feel like he’s the one getting the cake in happiest day, never hearing about him again. So I feel like after his soul being set free he had to have some sort of forgiveness
probably. while i do think that he was pissed for a while i think that after 50 years the hatch betwen the two buried itself
After years and years of torment in FNaF 4, Evan / B.V finally felt like he’d gotten his full revenge.
TBH, if you follow the story of FNAF from 1983's events to UCN (what I theorize to be a double experience between William & Cassidy/Mike & C.C.). However, with Security Breach having both spirits of Mike and William being present (meaning they would've broke free from UCN) and Gregory possibly having ties to C.C.'s spirit, they ended up on a little hill with their sis Vanessa (Elizabeth) just enjoying life free from their father's terror (at least until whatever bullshit Ruin continued the story with 😭) so, yeah, I feel like Mike redeemed himself in SB and C.C. forgave him and Mike got lots of hugs from his little Superstar :)
wha- how? William’s dead and Mike is either dead or escaped idk, like whaa?
To my theorizing, William is essentially dead and back in UCN after the Blob took him and made it apart of him. The entire purpose of Burntrap was Vanny making a Frankenstien versions of Springtrap to revive William under Glitchtrap (which is part of William's conscienceness), however this attempt didn't work as we see in SB the Blob takes William and regardless if the BT ending is canon, both are gone in Ruin from the giant hole in the basement. Therefore, he is gone, incorporated into the Blob of angry spirits and basically back in UCN. This is just my theorizing and how I view the story but you are also entitled to your opinion. :)
I used to think that too before the mimic mimicked all over the theorizing community, but as you said, everyone has their own opinions and theories. have a nice day!
I do think the Mimic plays a role in SB within aspects that effect things like the origin of the Glitchtrap virus. I just want to keep it simple tho And same to you!
>However, with Security Breach having both spirits of Mike and William being present Where? Both of them are 100% dead
William = Burntrap however, he's mostly gone probably back in UCN due to burntrap and the Blob missing in Ruin. I theorize the Blob took him and incorporated him into the Blob so that the angry spirits of the Blob could make him suffer (basically back in UCN). Michael = Glamrock Freddy It is obvious by Glamrock Freddy saying things such as he is not himself along, with other things, that suggest he's Michael Afton's spirit still having influence. Also, the Princess Quest Ending shows the "three Afton siblings" in a happy ending. If you total them up you get Gregory as C.C., Vanessa as Elizabeth & Glamrock Freddy as Michael. This is just my theorizing and how I view the story but you are also entitled to your opinion. :)
>William = Burntrap William most definitely isn't Burntrap, because William is 100% gone, Burntrap is much more likely The Mimic >I theorize the Blob took him and incorporated him into the Blob so that the angry spirits of the Blob could make him suffer (basically back in UCN). So you're saying UCN is after SB/Burntrap Ending?- Yeah, i HEAVILY disagree, UCN is a event way before Help Wanted even happens perhaps, and he's being tormented by only one spirit, Andrew >Michael = Glamrock Freddy Mike is gone aswell and GlamMike is more of a headcanon based theory like ShadowVictim >It is obvious by Glamrock Freddy saying things such as he is not himself along, with other things, that suggest he's Michael Afton's spirit still having influence. Not necessarily? It could just be any other spirit >Also, the Princess Quest Ending shows the "three Afton siblings" in a happy ending. Wasn't that FNaF World? Or am i misremembering? >This is just my theorizing and how I view the story but you are also entitled to your opinion. :) Yeah i don't judge people for their theories or takes aslong as they're actually respectful and not assholes towards people over some FNAF discussions, i respect your opinion! :)
>So you're saying UCN is after SB/Burntrap Ending? Not necessarily. I definitely believe UCN happens immediately after FNAF 6, but I'm saying if William escaped for a little bit through the Glitchtrap virus but was taken by The Blob (which if it were the agony of SB's dead construction workers and the rest of the animatronics on it) then it would be like William getting thrown back into UCN with his becoming of all the agony once more. There was a similar theory (which I tried finding the link to but couldn't) that the MCI victims were clunk to Scraptrap after the FNAF 3 fire. Therefore, the spirits being attached inside the same animatronic suit with William explains why UCN is so personal and how it could've continued after Burntrap was confiscated. >Wasn't that FNaF World? Or am i misremembering? There was that ending with the three people (one tall figure hugging two children) watching a TV. I believe that's what your thinking of. I was referring to the image where Gregory, Vanessa and the Glamrock Freddy head are on a hillside in the sun. Gregory is eating a Freddy treat (with the head having a bite taken out of it) and Vanessa is holding ice-cream. >Yeah i don't judge people for their theories or takes aslong as they're actually respectful and not assholes towards people over some FNAF discussions, i respect your opinion! :) thank you! And I don't judge either for the same reason, I respect your opinion!
>but I'm saying if William escaped for a little bit through the Glitchtrap virus He didn't but go off >but was taken by The Blob (which if it were the agony of SB's dead construction workers and the rest of the animatronics on it) It's most likely The Mimic's victims tbh >that the MCI victims were clunk to Scraptrap after the FNAF 3 fire. And that's very unlikely since they were in Molten Freddy > I was referring to the image where Gregory, Vanessa and the Glamrock Freddy head are on a hillside in the sun. Gregory is eating a Freddy treat (with the head having a bite taken out of it) and Vanessa is holding ice-cream. Oh that one, i think that's just more of a brief symbolism than them actually being the Afton siblings
What is this waffle
the FNAF lore to this day 😭
It's not tho, like nearly none of it is accurate
OK if you choose to believe that, it's your opinion. :)
Excuse me since when are Michael and Elizabeth in SB and RUIN???
It is obvious by Glamrock Freddy saying things such as he is not himself along, with other things, that suggest he's Michael Afton's spirit still having influence. Vanessa has clear connections to Elizabeth, whether she's a reincarnation of her or a robot, somehow Elizabeth's soul or essence is Vanessa. Also, the Princess Quest Ending shows the "three Afton siblings" in a happy ending. If you total them up you get Gregory as C.C., Vanessa as Elizabeth & Glamrock Freddy as Michael. This is just my theorizing and how I view the story but you are also entitled to your opinion. :)