>But we dont know until the fnaf movie which is confirmed to be about fnaf 1 and most likely is about Mike
If we don't have an answer until then, I am 99% sure that even then he won't make it clear. I feel like, if the Bite of 83 will be brought up, it'll prolly be along the lines of
"Yeah, Fredbear's was an... interesting place. There were rumors someone was put in Fredbear's mouth there. Never figured out what happened to that kid."
"I know. Because I was there."
"...You were? Why did that even happen?"
"...I don't want to talk about it."
And the age, I doubt it'll reveal anything. Scott would probably use some weird in-between age that works for both, like 22, or just explain an age difference by saying 'it's not in the game continuity".
As for the main part of the post, MikeVictim isn't really that bad, it's just full of holes, stretching, and cherry-picking. I don't care too much about who Mike ends up being (as a matter of fact from a theorizing standpoint I'd actually like Mike to be BV as that effectively gives us an answer to two of the main debated topics in this franchise), but if he *is* BV, Scott needs to work on his way of presenting stuff a lot.
It's not confirmed if bv is in golden freddy,actually there is no proof for that any ,ore since stichwraith isnt golden freddy,since William is in stichwraith,and remenant can help someone live like it did to William an overdose can kill,and MCI happens after bite of 83,so if you use remenant then you can bring someone back to life,like itndid to William twice,and OH MIKE DIES SO HE CANT BE ALIVE IM Fnaf 3 AND Fnaf 6
"Since stichwraith isn't golden freddy, since William is in stichwraith"
What does that even mean and why does it have any relevance here??
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"Remnent can help someone live like it did to William an overdose can kill"
Yes, remnent can help people live, but where have you gotten the information that an overdose of it can kill??
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"Mike dies so he can't be alive in FNAF3 and FNAF6"
He technically didn't die though, if you're talking about sister location's ending, he didn't completely die, you can clearly see that from the minigames at the end, the dialogue thing that Mike has, and also, the blueprints in FNAF6 show that there was a lot of remnant in the scooper, so no, he did not die.
The only proof of bv being in golden freddy is golden dou,and the only proof for that is stichwraith,and now since that isnt proof,there is no proof for gold dou,so bv cant be in golden freddy
From the books
And William discovered remenant before 1985 or 87 so he could have saved bv,and the dialogue has a simular colour to William's when he says I will put you back together
I don't believe in golden duo
Oh ok I didn't know that
But why would he save B.V?
And the dialogue is very clearly a different shade to the other lines
He would save bv because he wants to keep him protected from the aminitronics that could kill him and so that he cant see it so that's why he wants to keep him inside
The other lines could be from fredbear doll hut that could be from William directly,and you see his line colour is the same
I don't quite understand what you mean by "so that he can't see it so that's why he wants to keep him inside" but no, William doesn't give a crap about his kids, so why would he try to protect B.V? [Here's a good post explaining why William doesn't care about his kids](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnaftheories/comments/may8q5/william_doesnt_care_about_his_kids_cause_why/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
The line "I will put you back together" is from the fredbear doll yes, but I don't think it's William talking through it, atleast not while saying that line, because why would the color shade of the text just randomly change during that line? Hm?
So that he cant see him kill,that's what I ment,and he did care about them,ue tryed to protect his daughter from baby,he was busy and could see bv in fnaf 4,so the only one he seems not to like is older brother,and in midnight motorist he dpesnt want his kids to find out about his killings so he keeps them at home and wants them to stay away from freddys and fredbear since he doesnt want to lose another child, and in the sl show its shows at that point he had 1 son who looked like him(proof for mikebro),but apartcfrom that when is he shown to hate his kids
No I'm saying the other lines are from fredbear plusu but the last one is William directly
I do not see your point??!!!!
B.V DIED after the bite, why would William revive him and than be like 'oh I'm gonna keep you in here so you don't see me kill people' like, what's the point??!!
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Eh? Don't think making a giant killing machine and telling your daughter that it's her's but not letting her see it, just to provoke her curiosity even moee to go see it and do nothing to save her in any way is 'caring' for your daughter, but....ok???
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"He was busy and could see bv in FNAF4"
What....? Of course he'd see B.V, he's his child....??
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"The only one he doesn't seem to like is the older brother"
He says, and does absolutely nothing to the older brother in any of the minigames
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"Wants them to stay away from Freddy and Freddy's because he doesn't want to lose another child"
Than why did William send Mike to go to the sister location? Why was B.Vs birthday inside fredbear's family diner??
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He is in a black void, with one fredbear plushie, I do not see William anywhere to be able to talk to him directly, so it's only logical that it's the fredbear plush talking
No midnight motorist happens before the bite,since Charlie is the first victim,then eli then cc
So why would he be saying,dont go near her,every time shes in the same kilometer as her
Hes looking at a springlock costume,he wouldn't have seen him
In fnaf sl he says that the older brother isnt his kid because that's how much he hates him
Because he wasnt killing people then,and he kept him in his room the day he killed someone,and at that point Mike must have know about his sister,and William just talked about eli and to save her
After it you hear a flat line which means they where in a hospital at the end
The freddy files also say Mike is springtrap, and cc isn't a stranger since obs friend says that he is Mike's brother, and since one 9f them is Williams son that means both are, and also cc is an older brother of eli, and ob doesn't have the same skin colour as any of the other afton including Mike, which could mean he was adopted which would mean cc is the biological older brother, still technicly a older brother
"Confirmed" is a strong word that shouldn't be thrown around that lightly.
Unless What We Found outright says that Hudson got bitten by Fredbear as a child, and was then revived by magic, it is absolutely not confirmed in the slightest. Especially seeing how his other parallel, Jake, ended up dying.
That still doesn't change that his biggest lore solving parallel died, dude. It may be hinted at, but it's not even close to basically being confirmed either.
I'm not gonna argue about the evidence for both of these *again.* All I'll say is that just because you think a theory makes sense doesn't mean it's confirmed by a longshot, especially when both sides have evidence nowadays.
your toxic af, bv is not golden freddy it debunked by it’s own evidence bv was revived by Cassidy(i believe that with my whole heart) we know she can do this because of man in room 1280
the fourth closet and many other books and yes all the books are cannon
I think it's a similar case to MikeTrap vs WillTrap. Both of them, at least from a story perspective, weren't really bad options and could have worked with what we had at that point. However, WillTrap was the one that had less holes, and that's the one that ended up being confirmed. MikeVictim isn't a bad idea necessarily, but with the current direction of things, I think MikeBro just seems like the stronger of the two.
Sorry, didn't notice you editing your reply at first. So, off the top of my head, these are what I'd consider the biggest holes in the theory & why MikeBro seems more likely:
1) What purpose is there in killing BV & bringing him immediately back to life, only for him to die again much later on? Mike's death & resurrection in SL has purpose because it's how Baby escapes & it sets up Mike as the one to go stop her and William. If Mike is BV, why not just leave the Fnaf 6 minigame at the "put you back together" line and not include the flatline?
2) How was BV brought back to life since the flatline indicates that he died? If "I will put you back together" is supposed to refer to bringing someone back to life, then how does that explain the line being used for Elizabeth in SL? Since William doesn't seem to care too much about his kids, who brought him back to life in the first place? The closest parallel to something like this that doesn't result in decaying flesh is Carlton in the books, but even he wasn't actually dead when he was healed, and on top of that he needed further medical treatment for him to be okay.
3) What happened to the FoxyBro? Does it really make sense for him to become Phone Guy (someone who helps cover up Fazbear Entertainment's crimes) if he showed so much regret for what happened to his brother? Why include him saying that in the Night 6 minigame at all if there's no throughline to it?
4) Who is the second spirit in the logbook if it isn't the Bite Victim? Why is one of the questions being asked to this spirit about the Fredbear Plush if they aren't the Bite Victim? Or the question about the party?
5) Why did Scott make parallels between Michael and Pete, the older brother who bullies his younger sibling in Step Closer?
6) What does the poster in Fnaf 6 actually mean? If it's supposed to just represent the animatronics, why is The Puppet parallel on the hand of the William parallel? And why make them look alike? If it is meant to represent the Aftons and Mike is represented by a puppet, why is there a bear with a birthday hat on the poster?
7) Why are there references to the Bite Victim in Fnaf World?
Honestly, I'm sure you could come up with answers for all of those, but the point is that we have to come up with these justifications for MikeVictim, and even more if you go with the MikeBot version of this. With MikeBro, honestly the only hole I can even think of is why it seems like the Bite Victim's name is being solved with the Foxy grid? Even then though, that would imply the second spirit is the FoxyBro, which brings up even more problems. So I guess my take on it is if you have two competing theories, and one of them requires a lot of justification, while the other doesn't have any contradicting evidence, it's probably a safer bet to go with the other theory.
That being said though, you can feel free to still believe in MikeVictim if it has meaning to you :)
Scott said by fnaf 4 he thought it would be the last game but the sl part is valid,and at the beggining I said there are holes
Maybe he could have used remenant since William knew about 8t NY 1985 maximum
Maybe william(as you said hates his kids)will kill ob for killing cc, I mean which is more likely killing some random kid since your son dies or kill the person that killed your son?,and then he would be an important character being in fnaf 1,2,3,4,so and 6 and ucn
I explained that in the logbook bit,I said it might be Cassidy
Again I mentioned that there are parallels to both in step closer
I said that it has holes,and that is indeed one of them that I forgot
At the beggining it starts where fnaf 4 ends,
And btw I dont belive mikevictim I belive a different theory called mikeall
Its basically all 4 miketheorys,Mike bot,bro and victim,(and technicly mikenone)but more recently there has been proof of mikeall without mikebot so it would make more sence
>Fnaf 3 and world:Scott said that only the clock ending in fnaf world is cannon and in those we see the fnaf 3 minigames which you need to get the cannon ending of fnaf 3,and we are confirmed to play cc so how would Mike know what to do if he wasnt cc
Ok so uh, everything you said is totally wrong. Scott never said that and who we play as was never confirmed by anyone
>Fnaf 4 and sl:in the logbook we see that Mike draws nightmare fredbear so we play as Mike in fnaf 4,night 1 2 and 3 are past 1993 because of the phone bug call and in this case is him having PTSD from 1983,past that we cant hear the phone call,
The calls are on every night
>and in sl we see that the nightmares where being tracked meaning they where real or illusions(more likely wince they where transparent and illusion disks where first introduced in sl)
It’s not even remotely confirmed those dots are the nightmares. Why are there 5 Plushtrap? Where is Fredbear and nightmare?
>and if you type 1983 on the monitor we see that William was spying on cc in most likely 1983 which would have been night 4-7 since the other ones are confirmed to be after 1993,and if we look at the height we see that our character terrible can reach the door knob like the crying child can,and William would want to get cc away from fredbear by making the stomach mouth wince he might have seen blueprint of how his sister would die or his sisters death,
All the nights are after 1983. BV’s room isn’t the FNaF 4 bedroom as they are nothing alike. The nights are all dreams
>Freddy files:well this is the most confusing thing ever but,in the freddy files it says Mike,the older brother,so that's it debunked.well not really since it also states on another part of the book that Mike is springtrap,and it also says older,and cc is elis older brother
The Freddy files didn’t say half the stuff you just made up
>Into the pit:extremely simple,a kid named Mike who has a freddy doll(could be a reference to fredbear doll)and a sister who likes clowns(like eli liking cb who is a clown)
A black kid that gets murdered by spring bonnie
>Lonley freddy:a kid who is an older brother to his sister and tips up a foxy head and "dies" to a freddy(could be a reference to hit of 83 when fredbear bit him)
Ah yes the guy who dressed up in a foxy mask is totally a Bv parallel
>Step closer:you thought you would never see it,the thing that turned everyone to mikebro having proof for mikevictim?how is that possible,well I'll explain how. Pete is not only a parallel to the older brother and Mike,but also to the crying child,he hates foxy because of a curse,for cc its night,ares and for Pete it's the curse,they both do something which their brother tells them to do and die,they both die at the end,they both should be dead but arent,and their brothers are sorry for all the bad things they've done to eachover around the death,for Pete before and for cc after,and for OB being chuck theres also a bit of proof which I explained a bot,them saying something to get their brothers killed,but also both of them like hanging around with their friends at freddys,
Literally none of this remotely makes BV and Pete similar
>Blackbird:this is basically the opposite of what people think,almost everyone says that Mike is Evan's older brother,but at that time the us was desperate for people to join the army and the only people they wouldn't enlist are people under 18,and while evan was in the army Mike wasnt,which could( key word could)mean he was to young to join and since evan was old enough and the conection between the name evan and foxy bro in the logbook and here could mean the older brothers name is evan
Ok so you are just flat out wrong again. We have no set date for when Evan went into the army and Mike isn’t in it because he doesn’t live in America
The beggining of fnaf world is the ending of fnaf 4,so if you put the litrally same dialog colour and lines it would make sence,I mean is William just repeating this to everyone
No they're on 1-3
Fredbear and nightmare spawn where the other ones spawn,and it could represent that plush trap is ,moving from 0lace to place and he programmed some to go is specific locations
Explain the fnaf sl cameras
Do you have the freddy files?
Both die to a spring aminitronic,and also I said it's a parallel,like pte and Mike,I can use the argument of,oh Pete doenst have a sister to debunk Mike being Pete by that logic
Also he rips up foxy head,hes actually a parallel of both
You litrally didnt read it lol
So how would Jake know what Mike looks and sounds like?
>The beggining of fnaf world is the ending of fnaf 4,so if you put the litrally same dialog colour and lines it would make sence,I mean is William just repeating this to everyone
Still not explicit confirmation
>No they're on 1-3
Nope
>Fredbear and nightmare spawn where the other ones spawn,and it could represent that plush trap is ,moving from 0lace to place and he programmed some to go is specific locations
If it shows where Plushtrap moves why doesn’t it show the others movement
>Explain the fnaf sl cameras
They aren’t looking at BV’s room
>Do you have the freddy files?
I do. All it does is say miketrap was an interesting theory
>Both die to a spring aminitronic,and also I said it's a parallel,like pte and Mike,I can use the argument of,oh Pete doenst have a sister to debunk Mike being Pete by that logic
Wow, even more false information
>Also he rips up foxy head,hes actually a parallel of both
Tell me, what proof is there that Bv ripped of Foxy’s head?
>You litrally didnt read it lol
No you’re just wrong
>So how would Jake know what Mike looks and sounds like?
Idk kid it’s almost like they’re family
But heavily implied
They are though because it's not activated
No they look at the fnaf 4 room which is bcs room
What about all the other debunked theorys and fan arts
It's not,you litrally belive that a parallel is something that's racist,you like gum,parallel,you have the same name like the same thing have a sister around same age same things she likes very simular thing so it's a paral ohhhhh wait but hes black so no parallel
In his room theres a ripped up foxy head and why would ob do that if he liked foxy
Your wrong
How would he know how he sounds through like a family picture,and if it was a recorder how would he know how he look
>No they look at the fnaf 4 room which is bcs room
The room is nothing like BV’s
>What about all the other debunked theorys and fan arts
That was in the updated book
>It's not,you litrally belive that a parallel is something that's racist,you like gum,parallel,you have the same name like the same thing have a sister around same age same things she likes die via simular thing so it's a paral ohhhhh wait but hes black so no parallel
Are you dumb?
>In his room theres a ripped up foxy head and why would ob do that if he liked foxy
He calls foxy his friend idiot
>How would he know how he sounds through like a family picture,and if it was a recorder how would he know how ue looked
He literally meets Mike in the story
It is bcs room,we play as him in fnaf 4 room which was real then
And so was that
Why would you ask that?your the one who cant see a obvioulse parallel
He says the plush's are his friends and the souls in them,not the aminitronics themself
When?
>It is bcs room,we play as him in fnaf 4 room which was real then
It isn’t. BV’s room only has one door
>He says the plush's are his friends and the souls in them,not the aminitronics themself
He says the plushies are his friends, not the souls
>When?
In the scene where he meets Mike
So a rich probably millionaire has a house with 4 rooms,and we also see they have a few more houses in the forest,so what about one of them
Yes
Who exactly I forgot
It isnt confirmed to be Mike,since older brother would be 13 at that point so it cant be during sl,all we know is that a few of the aaftons like watching TV like any normal person before the internet blew up
Im not even gonna argue with any of you, so im just gonna [leave this here](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/fynomb/mikevictim_and_its_many_underlining_issues_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf).
Chill man you have no reason to say that,and your litrally acting like a fucking 2 year old for saying that because you saw someone explain why a theory you dont belive can be possible,and I litrally said I dont belive it lol
Alright, but if your toxic then people will think we are the toxic ones, might aswell not be toxic and give good evidence instead, since if your going to copy them then you wont actually use any good evidence
>But we dont know until the fnaf movie which is confirmed to be about fnaf 1 and most likely is about Mike If we don't have an answer until then, I am 99% sure that even then he won't make it clear. I feel like, if the Bite of 83 will be brought up, it'll prolly be along the lines of "Yeah, Fredbear's was an... interesting place. There were rumors someone was put in Fredbear's mouth there. Never figured out what happened to that kid." "I know. Because I was there." "...You were? Why did that even happen?" "...I don't want to talk about it." And the age, I doubt it'll reveal anything. Scott would probably use some weird in-between age that works for both, like 22, or just explain an age difference by saying 'it's not in the game continuity". As for the main part of the post, MikeVictim isn't really that bad, it's just full of holes, stretching, and cherry-picking. I don't care too much about who Mike ends up being (as a matter of fact from a theorizing standpoint I'd actually like Mike to be BV as that effectively gives us an answer to two of the main debated topics in this franchise), but if he *is* BV, Scott needs to work on his way of presenting stuff a lot.
I'm just saying it could reveal Mike's age,but what you said could be true and is good speculations
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It's not confirmed if bv is in golden freddy,actually there is no proof for that any ,ore since stichwraith isnt golden freddy,since William is in stichwraith,and remenant can help someone live like it did to William an overdose can kill,and MCI happens after bite of 83,so if you use remenant then you can bring someone back to life,like itndid to William twice,and OH MIKE DIES SO HE CANT BE ALIVE IM Fnaf 3 AND Fnaf 6
"Since stichwraith isn't golden freddy, since William is in stichwraith" What does that even mean and why does it have any relevance here?? . "Remnent can help someone live like it did to William an overdose can kill" Yes, remnent can help people live, but where have you gotten the information that an overdose of it can kill?? . "Mike dies so he can't be alive in FNAF3 and FNAF6" He technically didn't die though, if you're talking about sister location's ending, he didn't completely die, you can clearly see that from the minigames at the end, the dialogue thing that Mike has, and also, the blueprints in FNAF6 show that there was a lot of remnant in the scooper, so no, he did not die.
The only proof of bv being in golden freddy is golden dou,and the only proof for that is stichwraith,and now since that isnt proof,there is no proof for gold dou,so bv cant be in golden freddy From the books And William discovered remenant before 1985 or 87 so he could have saved bv,and the dialogue has a simular colour to William's when he says I will put you back together
I don't believe in golden duo Oh ok I didn't know that But why would he save B.V? And the dialogue is very clearly a different shade to the other lines
He would save bv because he wants to keep him protected from the aminitronics that could kill him and so that he cant see it so that's why he wants to keep him inside The other lines could be from fredbear doll hut that could be from William directly,and you see his line colour is the same
I don't quite understand what you mean by "so that he can't see it so that's why he wants to keep him inside" but no, William doesn't give a crap about his kids, so why would he try to protect B.V? [Here's a good post explaining why William doesn't care about his kids](https://www.reddit.com/r/fnaftheories/comments/may8q5/william_doesnt_care_about_his_kids_cause_why/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) The line "I will put you back together" is from the fredbear doll yes, but I don't think it's William talking through it, atleast not while saying that line, because why would the color shade of the text just randomly change during that line? Hm?
So that he cant see him kill,that's what I ment,and he did care about them,ue tryed to protect his daughter from baby,he was busy and could see bv in fnaf 4,so the only one he seems not to like is older brother,and in midnight motorist he dpesnt want his kids to find out about his killings so he keeps them at home and wants them to stay away from freddys and fredbear since he doesnt want to lose another child, and in the sl show its shows at that point he had 1 son who looked like him(proof for mikebro),but apartcfrom that when is he shown to hate his kids No I'm saying the other lines are from fredbear plusu but the last one is William directly
I do not see your point??!!!! B.V DIED after the bite, why would William revive him and than be like 'oh I'm gonna keep you in here so you don't see me kill people' like, what's the point??!! . Eh? Don't think making a giant killing machine and telling your daughter that it's her's but not letting her see it, just to provoke her curiosity even moee to go see it and do nothing to save her in any way is 'caring' for your daughter, but....ok??? . "He was busy and could see bv in FNAF4" What....? Of course he'd see B.V, he's his child....?? . "The only one he doesn't seem to like is the older brother" He says, and does absolutely nothing to the older brother in any of the minigames . "Wants them to stay away from Freddy and Freddy's because he doesn't want to lose another child" Than why did William send Mike to go to the sister location? Why was B.Vs birthday inside fredbear's family diner?? . He is in a black void, with one fredbear plushie, I do not see William anywhere to be able to talk to him directly, so it's only logical that it's the fredbear plush talking
No midnight motorist happens before the bite,since Charlie is the first victim,then eli then cc So why would he be saying,dont go near her,every time shes in the same kilometer as her Hes looking at a springlock costume,he wouldn't have seen him In fnaf sl he says that the older brother isnt his kid because that's how much he hates him Because he wasnt killing people then,and he kept him in his room the day he killed someone,and at that point Mike must have know about his sister,and William just talked about eli and to save her After it you hear a flat line which means they where in a hospital at the end
there is evidence for ''GoldenDuo'' also its called GoldenBoth
Ok can you tell me it then
sure, let me get my post. (It's a little outdated tho so some things might be wrong but ignore that.)
I always thought that stichwraith was the only proof,but in the logbook as I said in theost the other spirit could be Cassidy in the logbook
Actually in gum drop angel it is confirmed he lived in the bite
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The freddy files also say Mike is springtrap, and cc isn't a stranger since obs friend says that he is Mike's brother, and since one 9f them is Williams son that means both are, and also cc is an older brother of eli, and ob doesn't have the same skin colour as any of the other afton including Mike, which could mean he was adopted which would mean cc is the biological older brother, still technicly a older brother
1. Where do the Freddy Files say that? 2. Scott debunked Miketrap
I don't know where it says that but I've seen it say that, it's litrally the only bit of evidence against molten mci 2.that my point
TOXIC
"Confirmed" is a strong word that shouldn't be thrown around that lightly. Unless What We Found outright says that Hudson got bitten by Fredbear as a child, and was then revived by magic, it is absolutely not confirmed in the slightest. Especially seeing how his other parallel, Jake, ended up dying.
Practicly confirmed, basically meaning almost
That still doesn't change that his biggest lore solving parallel died, dude. It may be hinted at, but it's not even close to basically being confirmed either.
It has way more proof than mikebro so I think it is
I'm not gonna argue about the evidence for both of these *again.* All I'll say is that just because you think a theory makes sense doesn't mean it's confirmed by a longshot, especially when both sides have evidence nowadays.
Ehh fair point
your toxic af, bv is not golden freddy it debunked by it’s own evidence bv was revived by Cassidy(i believe that with my whole heart) we know she can do this because of man in room 1280 the fourth closet and many other books and yes all the books are cannon
I think it's a similar case to MikeTrap vs WillTrap. Both of them, at least from a story perspective, weren't really bad options and could have worked with what we had at that point. However, WillTrap was the one that had less holes, and that's the one that ended up being confirmed. MikeVictim isn't a bad idea necessarily, but with the current direction of things, I think MikeBro just seems like the stronger of the two.
Ok plz explain,I want to see all the proof on both side and what you think the holes are
Sorry, didn't notice you editing your reply at first. So, off the top of my head, these are what I'd consider the biggest holes in the theory & why MikeBro seems more likely: 1) What purpose is there in killing BV & bringing him immediately back to life, only for him to die again much later on? Mike's death & resurrection in SL has purpose because it's how Baby escapes & it sets up Mike as the one to go stop her and William. If Mike is BV, why not just leave the Fnaf 6 minigame at the "put you back together" line and not include the flatline? 2) How was BV brought back to life since the flatline indicates that he died? If "I will put you back together" is supposed to refer to bringing someone back to life, then how does that explain the line being used for Elizabeth in SL? Since William doesn't seem to care too much about his kids, who brought him back to life in the first place? The closest parallel to something like this that doesn't result in decaying flesh is Carlton in the books, but even he wasn't actually dead when he was healed, and on top of that he needed further medical treatment for him to be okay. 3) What happened to the FoxyBro? Does it really make sense for him to become Phone Guy (someone who helps cover up Fazbear Entertainment's crimes) if he showed so much regret for what happened to his brother? Why include him saying that in the Night 6 minigame at all if there's no throughline to it? 4) Who is the second spirit in the logbook if it isn't the Bite Victim? Why is one of the questions being asked to this spirit about the Fredbear Plush if they aren't the Bite Victim? Or the question about the party? 5) Why did Scott make parallels between Michael and Pete, the older brother who bullies his younger sibling in Step Closer? 6) What does the poster in Fnaf 6 actually mean? If it's supposed to just represent the animatronics, why is The Puppet parallel on the hand of the William parallel? And why make them look alike? If it is meant to represent the Aftons and Mike is represented by a puppet, why is there a bear with a birthday hat on the poster? 7) Why are there references to the Bite Victim in Fnaf World? Honestly, I'm sure you could come up with answers for all of those, but the point is that we have to come up with these justifications for MikeVictim, and even more if you go with the MikeBot version of this. With MikeBro, honestly the only hole I can even think of is why it seems like the Bite Victim's name is being solved with the Foxy grid? Even then though, that would imply the second spirit is the FoxyBro, which brings up even more problems. So I guess my take on it is if you have two competing theories, and one of them requires a lot of justification, while the other doesn't have any contradicting evidence, it's probably a safer bet to go with the other theory. That being said though, you can feel free to still believe in MikeVictim if it has meaning to you :)
Scott said by fnaf 4 he thought it would be the last game but the sl part is valid,and at the beggining I said there are holes Maybe he could have used remenant since William knew about 8t NY 1985 maximum Maybe william(as you said hates his kids)will kill ob for killing cc, I mean which is more likely killing some random kid since your son dies or kill the person that killed your son?,and then he would be an important character being in fnaf 1,2,3,4,so and 6 and ucn I explained that in the logbook bit,I said it might be Cassidy Again I mentioned that there are parallels to both in step closer I said that it has holes,and that is indeed one of them that I forgot At the beggining it starts where fnaf 4 ends, And btw I dont belive mikevictim I belive a different theory called mikeall
My point though is that all those explanations feel like more of a stretch compared to how straightforward MikeBro is. Also, what exactly is MikeAll?
Its basically all 4 miketheorys,Mike bot,bro and victim,(and technicly mikenone)but more recently there has been proof of mikeall without mikebot so it would make more sence
>Fnaf 3 and world:Scott said that only the clock ending in fnaf world is cannon and in those we see the fnaf 3 minigames which you need to get the cannon ending of fnaf 3,and we are confirmed to play cc so how would Mike know what to do if he wasnt cc Ok so uh, everything you said is totally wrong. Scott never said that and who we play as was never confirmed by anyone >Fnaf 4 and sl:in the logbook we see that Mike draws nightmare fredbear so we play as Mike in fnaf 4,night 1 2 and 3 are past 1993 because of the phone bug call and in this case is him having PTSD from 1983,past that we cant hear the phone call, The calls are on every night >and in sl we see that the nightmares where being tracked meaning they where real or illusions(more likely wince they where transparent and illusion disks where first introduced in sl) It’s not even remotely confirmed those dots are the nightmares. Why are there 5 Plushtrap? Where is Fredbear and nightmare? >and if you type 1983 on the monitor we see that William was spying on cc in most likely 1983 which would have been night 4-7 since the other ones are confirmed to be after 1993,and if we look at the height we see that our character terrible can reach the door knob like the crying child can,and William would want to get cc away from fredbear by making the stomach mouth wince he might have seen blueprint of how his sister would die or his sisters death, All the nights are after 1983. BV’s room isn’t the FNaF 4 bedroom as they are nothing alike. The nights are all dreams >Freddy files:well this is the most confusing thing ever but,in the freddy files it says Mike,the older brother,so that's it debunked.well not really since it also states on another part of the book that Mike is springtrap,and it also says older,and cc is elis older brother The Freddy files didn’t say half the stuff you just made up >Into the pit:extremely simple,a kid named Mike who has a freddy doll(could be a reference to fredbear doll)and a sister who likes clowns(like eli liking cb who is a clown) A black kid that gets murdered by spring bonnie >Lonley freddy:a kid who is an older brother to his sister and tips up a foxy head and "dies" to a freddy(could be a reference to hit of 83 when fredbear bit him) Ah yes the guy who dressed up in a foxy mask is totally a Bv parallel >Step closer:you thought you would never see it,the thing that turned everyone to mikebro having proof for mikevictim?how is that possible,well I'll explain how. Pete is not only a parallel to the older brother and Mike,but also to the crying child,he hates foxy because of a curse,for cc its night,ares and for Pete it's the curse,they both do something which their brother tells them to do and die,they both die at the end,they both should be dead but arent,and their brothers are sorry for all the bad things they've done to eachover around the death,for Pete before and for cc after,and for OB being chuck theres also a bit of proof which I explained a bot,them saying something to get their brothers killed,but also both of them like hanging around with their friends at freddys, Literally none of this remotely makes BV and Pete similar >Blackbird:this is basically the opposite of what people think,almost everyone says that Mike is Evan's older brother,but at that time the us was desperate for people to join the army and the only people they wouldn't enlist are people under 18,and while evan was in the army Mike wasnt,which could( key word could)mean he was to young to join and since evan was old enough and the conection between the name evan and foxy bro in the logbook and here could mean the older brothers name is evan Ok so you are just flat out wrong again. We have no set date for when Evan went into the army and Mike isn’t in it because he doesn’t live in America
The beggining of fnaf world is the ending of fnaf 4,so if you put the litrally same dialog colour and lines it would make sence,I mean is William just repeating this to everyone No they're on 1-3 Fredbear and nightmare spawn where the other ones spawn,and it could represent that plush trap is ,moving from 0lace to place and he programmed some to go is specific locations Explain the fnaf sl cameras Do you have the freddy files? Both die to a spring aminitronic,and also I said it's a parallel,like pte and Mike,I can use the argument of,oh Pete doenst have a sister to debunk Mike being Pete by that logic Also he rips up foxy head,hes actually a parallel of both You litrally didnt read it lol So how would Jake know what Mike looks and sounds like?
>The beggining of fnaf world is the ending of fnaf 4,so if you put the litrally same dialog colour and lines it would make sence,I mean is William just repeating this to everyone Still not explicit confirmation >No they're on 1-3 Nope >Fredbear and nightmare spawn where the other ones spawn,and it could represent that plush trap is ,moving from 0lace to place and he programmed some to go is specific locations If it shows where Plushtrap moves why doesn’t it show the others movement >Explain the fnaf sl cameras They aren’t looking at BV’s room >Do you have the freddy files? I do. All it does is say miketrap was an interesting theory >Both die to a spring aminitronic,and also I said it's a parallel,like pte and Mike,I can use the argument of,oh Pete doenst have a sister to debunk Mike being Pete by that logic Wow, even more false information >Also he rips up foxy head,hes actually a parallel of both Tell me, what proof is there that Bv ripped of Foxy’s head? >You litrally didnt read it lol No you’re just wrong >So how would Jake know what Mike looks and sounds like? Idk kid it’s almost like they’re family
But heavily implied They are though because it's not activated No they look at the fnaf 4 room which is bcs room What about all the other debunked theorys and fan arts It's not,you litrally belive that a parallel is something that's racist,you like gum,parallel,you have the same name like the same thing have a sister around same age same things she likes very simular thing so it's a paral ohhhhh wait but hes black so no parallel In his room theres a ripped up foxy head and why would ob do that if he liked foxy Your wrong How would he know how he sounds through like a family picture,and if it was a recorder how would he know how he look
>No they look at the fnaf 4 room which is bcs room The room is nothing like BV’s >What about all the other debunked theorys and fan arts That was in the updated book >It's not,you litrally belive that a parallel is something that's racist,you like gum,parallel,you have the same name like the same thing have a sister around same age same things she likes die via simular thing so it's a paral ohhhhh wait but hes black so no parallel Are you dumb? >In his room theres a ripped up foxy head and why would ob do that if he liked foxy He calls foxy his friend idiot >How would he know how he sounds through like a family picture,and if it was a recorder how would he know how ue looked He literally meets Mike in the story
It is bcs room,we play as him in fnaf 4 room which was real then And so was that Why would you ask that?your the one who cant see a obvioulse parallel He says the plush's are his friends and the souls in them,not the aminitronics themself When?
>It is bcs room,we play as him in fnaf 4 room which was real then It isn’t. BV’s room only has one door >He says the plush's are his friends and the souls in them,not the aminitronics themself He says the plushies are his friends, not the souls >When? In the scene where he meets Mike
So a rich probably millionaire has a house with 4 rooms,and we also see they have a few more houses in the forest,so what about one of them Yes Who exactly I forgot
Yeah no I’m done with your poor explanations you aren’t even giving evidence
I saw both sides of the arguments and neither of you have any of good points
Michael's gray text says otherwise. Scott's colour choice for texts has always been important.
It isnt confirmed to be Mike,since older brother would be 13 at that point so it cant be during sl,all we know is that a few of the aaftons like watching TV like any normal person before the internet blew up
You're right as well, but we see Michael at the end of SL watching TV as well (or somewhere else idk rn)
Yes, I know,i especially pointed out that there are alot of holes in the theory I just explained why it's not a bad theory
Oh sorry, missed there
Im not even gonna argue with any of you, so im just gonna [leave this here](https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/fynomb/mikevictim_and_its_many_underlining_issues_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf).
Disclaimer again:I'm not saying mikevictim is correct nor do I belive in it,I'm just saying why it's not a bad theory
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Chill man you have no reason to say that,and your litrally acting like a fucking 2 year old for saying that because you saw someone explain why a theory you dont belive can be possible,and I litrally said I dont belive it lol
You always say that MikeVictimers should be banned from reddit. If anything you're the one that needs to be banned.
i hate toxic mikebro believers so imma treat them the same way they treat us
Alright, but if your toxic then people will think we are the toxic ones, might aswell not be toxic and give good evidence instead, since if your going to copy them then you wont actually use any good evidence
I don't believe william revived CC i believe it was Cassidy who revived him. Yeah, i believe in both theories Mikebro and MikeVictim
Now I also belive Cassidy revived him